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Re: James HARGREAVES ('Spinning Jenny')

88miles — 2012-05-13 20:50:06Z

Do you have any info on the descendants of the inventor of the spinning Jenny? I would be much obliged.
Brad

Re: Male Hargreaves/Edna Drage Marriage Around Mid-1920's

SusanKirby48 — 2012-04-28 03:27:42Z

Hi, Joan! Thanks for the info. I believe Michelle Morris (Drage) may be related to my Drage line. The Kirby connection is my belated husband's. I don't think there's any relation to Kathy Kirby, but who knows? Since I can't get in touch with Michelle, I don't know if there's any connection to Jonathan Morris, except maybe on Michelle's husband's side.
Take care. Sue

Re: John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

neesyval_1 — 2012-04-22 18:12:23Z

Do the witnesses on the marriage certificate give any clues to relations?

denise V

Re: John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

Fiona_Bathgate — 2012-04-22 12:08:53Z

Yes - that is the official reference to the census page if you can't find him with a search

Not sure , obviously that it's him, but HARGRAVES and HARGREAVES (and HEARGREAVES etc) are basically the same name

Re: John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

jazzyjules32 — 2012-04-22 10:46:27Z

Hi Fiona, the number you gave at the bottom of your email. Is this a reference I can use to look up your details? Thanks for your help on this.

Re: John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

Fiona_Bathgate — 2012-04-20 19:50:59Z

Well there is a John Alfred HARGRAVES on the 1911 census with a father called John working as a clay miner. Young john was born in 1902 - Living at 2 Cottage Lane, Barton On Humber RG14 PN20110 ED16

But no Jacks

Re: John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

jazzyjules32 — 2012-04-20 17:38:50Z

According to his marriage certificate his Father's name is Jack Hargreaves and he was a gardener although I cannot find any information anywhere???

Re: John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

Fiona_Bathgate — 2012-04-20 15:40:34Z

What was his father's name and occupation?

John Alfred Hargreaves 1901

jazzyjules32 — 2012-04-20 09:14:03Z

Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. I have been looking for more information on my grandad. His name is John Alfred Hargreaves, born apparently 13 April 1901 and Died 1973. We have his marriage certificate to Grace Ockendon and his death certificate (died in Kent) but no birth certificate and no known other brothers, sisters etc. although we think there were others. He apparently ran away from home (could be around Beverley, Yorkshire as he named one of his houses this) when he was 12 and joined the army as his dad was a violent man and his mum (we have no name for her) ran away when he was 10. I have no clue who his mother was. His birthdate is not on ancestry and so now I am wondering if he made this up. He would never talk about his past. I have written to the war records pensions as we know he received a pension from the Coldstream Guards. Any advice or pointers would be so helpful to finally solving this mystery. Thanks.

Re: Mary Catherine HARGREAVES m Thomas RAFFLES abt 1815

LindseyHargreaves48 — 2012-04-05 07:47:52Z

Mary Catherine HARGREAVES brother was Winter Ainsworth HARGREAVES who died in 1827 (unmarried)- I have a copy of his will which shows he left money to his cousin Joshua Hartley HARGREAVES. Joshua Hartley HARGREAVES is the father of Joseph, Eliza and Winter who all came to New Zealand. Joseph is my husband's grt grandfather. We are looking for Joshua's father (His grandfatparents were John and Mary nee WINTER

Thurston Hargreaves my Grandfather

2012-04-03 13:13:07Z

To Ian Life
Thank you for your information from the 1881 census, he married May Turner from Sheffield area. Do not know where or when.He came to Canada around 1906 and settled in Ingersoll Ontario. My Grandmother Hargreaves came a year later, with children Winnefred, John, Albert, and Trefina. After a year in Ingersoll he disappeared, leaving my father John Hargreaves a boy of 12 years to work and support the family here. We do not know where he went, maybe to the U S A or back to England. Thanks for your help, Ian
Albert Hargreaves

Re: Thurston Hargreaves my Grandfather

MaggieBurch — 2012-04-01 01:26:42Z

Albert:

Can you tell me your mother's name? I am researching my grandmother's family. Her sister, Lizzie Hamilton, married Joseph Edwin Thomas. Their daughter, Edith Lorraine, married John Roston Hargreaves, Ingersol, age 22 in 1916.

Maggie (mbburch@shaw.ca)

Re: John HARGREAVES b 1845 Leeds, UK > Australia 1872

dalkerry — 2012-03-17 01:11:08Z

In reply to Phyllis H I am also related to John Hargreaves and looking for info. Mum (Nessie Lind) is his daughter, but in a nursing home and not very good at communication. I have a copy from ancestry.com.au from a couple of years ago that at present I can't find.
Margaret R

Re: James HARGREAVES ('Spinning Jenny') - Part 1

stephaniehargreaves — 2012-03-05 13:51:07Z

hi my name is stephanie and my ggg uncle invented the spinning jenny my fathers name was george his father charlie and his thomas and then joseph don;t know any others

The Will of James HARGREAVES

MCapezza — 2012-03-02 08:49:48Z

Appendix A

WILL OF JAMES HARGREAVES

In the Name of God Amen. I, James Hargrave of the Parish of Saint Mary in the Town and County of Nottingham, Cotton Spinner and Throwster, do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament in Manner and Form following: First My Soul I commit into the Hands of my Merciful Creator, thro my only Redeemer and Saviour Jesus Christ; and my Body I commit to the Earth to be decently interred at the discretion of my Executrix hereinafter mentioned; and as touching my Temporal concerns give and bequeath unto Each of my Children, that is, unto George Hargrave, and to Margaret, now the wife of Charles Smoke, to Ellen, now the wife of John Bird, to John Hargrave, to Mary, now the wife of William Stenson, to Jonathan Hargrave, to Ann Hargrave, and to Alice Hargrave, the Sum of Two Pounds, two shillings each to be paid unto all and each of them, the said sum of Two Pounds two shillings each as soon as possible after my decrease. All my other Goods, Chattels, Household Furniture, Watch, Wearing Apparel, Plate, Bills, Bonds, Debts, Benefit of Contracts arising from Partnership in Trade as specified in the Articles agreed to betwixt Mr. Thos. James and Mr. William Sadlier (late of the Town of Nottingham aforesaid) deceased and me, the said James Hargrave; with all and every sum or sums of whatsoever or wheresoever found due to me at the time of my death, I give and bequeath unto my loving wife Elizabeth Hargrave for her use and behoof, during the term of her Natural Life; Chargeable nevertheless with the Payment of all my just debts and Funeral expenses and I hereby constitute and appoint the said Elizabeth Hargrave sole and only executrix of this my last Will and Testament: In witness thereof I have hereunto put my Hand and Seal, this Twenty fifth day of January, one thousand seven Hundred and Seventy Eight.

Signed, sealed and declared
as the said James Hargraves
last Will and Testament, in
the Presence of us........James Bosworth, Benjamin Beard, Nathaniel Peatre
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Appendix B

ENTRIES IN THE REGISTERS OF CHURCH KIRK, LANCASHIRE, AND ST. MARY'S CHURCH, NOTTINGHAM.

Church Kirk registers:
James, son of George Hargreaves of Oswaldtwistle, bap. January 8, 1720/1.
Elizabeth, daughter of George Hargreaves, of Oswaldtwistle, bap. February, 9, 1723/4.
Elizabeth, daughter of Henry Grimshaw, of Duckworth Hill in Oswaldtwistle, bap. November 6, 1720.
James Hargreaves married Elizabeth Grimshaw, both of Oswaldtwistle, Sept. 10, 1740.
Susan, daughter of James Hargreaves, bap.Jan. 13, 1744/5.
Ellen, daughter of James Hargreaves, of Brookside, bap. January 1, 1746/7.
Henry, son of James Hargreaves, of Oswaldtwistle, died Sept. 1747.
Christopher, son of James Hargreaves, of Brookside, bap. January 5, 1748/9.
John, son of James Hargreaves, of Stanhill, bap. November 18, 1750.
Mary, daughter of James Hargreaves, of Stanhill, bap. October 26, 1752.
Betty, daughter of James Hargreaves, of Stanhill, bap. March 9, 1755.
Jonathan, son of James Hargreaves, of Stanhill, bap. July 10, 1757.
Harry, son of James Hargreaves of Stanhill, bap. March 15, 1761.
Ann, daughter of James Hargreaves, of Ramsclough, Oswaldtwistle, bap. June 21, 1767.

St. Mary's, Nottingham, registers:

Burials: 1778, April 22, James Hargraves
Marriages: John Bird and Ellen Hargraves, Nov. 17, 1770.
William Stenson and Mary Hargreaves, Jan. 27, 1774.
Samuel Wilkinson and Elizabeth Hargraves, Nov. 6, 1780.

Taken from "James Hargreaves and the Spinning Jenny" by C. Aspin and D. Chapman: (Helmshore Local History Society, 1964).

Re: James HARGREAVES ('Spinning Jenny')

MCapezza — 2012-03-02 02:11:28Z

Hi,
I don't know if it is mine to share. I will try. Can you email me? mmcapezza@lighttube.net
I know the value of these message boards is to share the information. So if I can figure out how to send it I will. It is extremley large. Let's talk. M.

Re: James HARGREAVES ('Spinning Jenny')

Roger_Davison — 2012-03-02 01:06:34Z

Hello, I too am trying hard to find out what happened to the male children of James Hargreaves, as in Spinning Jenny, and am told by my family that my grandmother Ethel HArgreaves is related to him. Any chance of seeing the family tree from your man in England?

Many many thanks

William Hargreaves - Pub Landlord of New Pier Vault in Rockferry, Birkenhead, CHE, UK , 20C

jaimejenks1 — 2012-01-22 13:24:55Z

Hi

Does anyone have any further information about a William Hargreaves dod c1935 - Was a pub landlord for the New Pier Vaults pub in Rockferry and was married to Ann. They had 3 children, (John, Alice and William) and the son William went on to have 6 children and married Murial. They had 6 children and only one is know (Jack) who I believed moved to Canada.

As the Hargreaves family are so far and wide, I am struggling to find any links to the info above so any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Re: James HARGREAVES ('Spinning Jenny')

MCapezza — 2011-11-30 17:40:42Z

Hello
I have just posted the will of James Hargreaves taken from a book which is mentioned at the end of the article. It does not show that James had a son named James. Also, if you would like to see it, I have a family tree showing his ancestors which I received from a man in England.

Re: James HARGREAVES ('Spinning Jenny')

brucehargreaves1957 — 2011-11-30 05:12:14Z

JAMES BORN BLACKBURN LANCASTER UK 1720-1779,1 SON JAMES DERBYSHIRE UK,1 SON SAMUEL 1834 ,CAME TO US 1873 BECAME A CITIZEN JEFFERSON COUNTY OH. AUG 24 1880. 1 SON JAMES SAMUEL MARRIED ALICE BROOKS,10 CHILDREN EWIN V ,ALLEN J MY GR GRAND FATHER,E SAMUEL,ALICE MAY,ALBERT S,LUCY B,SARA,CATHERINE,PANSY, MARCELLA.
FROM THIS POINT THE FAMILY GREW TO A POINT WHERE THERE IS NOT MUCH INFO. THIS IS THE SPINNING JENNY JAMES. I HAVE NO INFO ON HIS BROTHERS OR SISTERS WHO REMAINED IN ENGLAND. I BELIEVE THERE MAY HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OF THEM.

Yearbook Picture of R. H. Hargreaves of Evanston, IL, USA 1943

drbrownlee — 2011-11-29 09:29:57Z

R. H. is pictured in the 43-D Class yearbook of aviation cadets at the Advanced Flying School at Moore Field in Mission, Texas. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Harry HARGREAVES (1906-1960) Burnley, Lancs, UK > New Zealand

colespainting — 2011-09-14 08:14:41Z

I have a death cert of Harry Hargreaves (1906-1960) born and married Burnley Lancashire, lived 36 years in New Zealand. Fathers name Henry James Hargreaves in that time period. It is possible he may be called by his middle name. I have heard that someone Hargreaves was a minister or wrote a sermon or so for the church of England. Alot of family in Auckland.
Hargreaves my mums maiden name. I am also trying to trace my roots in England. Cole Over Muir colespainting@woosh.co.nz

Henry HARGREAVES m Frances BRANDON in Manchester, England 1908

kimacc — 2011-09-14 08:12:45Z

hi can anyone help me as ive hit a brick wall!
trying to trace my great grandads parents, ive found my great grandad HENRY HARGREAVES(1885) marriage certificate to FRANCES BRANDON they were married at st micheals in manchester in 1908. on the wedding certificate it is witnessed by JAMES HARGREAVES which as far as i know by my nana is his brother. his fathers name on the certificate is HENRY HARGREAVES occupation an engineer,my nana thinks JAMES was in the police force but isnt sure, when HENRY was married he was living at BAPTIST STREET. i do know him and frances lived in NEW MOSTON as my nana remembers living there. ive searched all the censors and ONLY find a HARRY HARGREAVES with a father HENRY HARGREAVES who also has a brother JAMES HARGREAVES. if anyone has any information on these people please let me know.
thanks

Re: John Hargreaves b.1843 in England, d.1905 in RI, USA. Union army in civil war. Married Catherine Ferguson

deborahredley1 — 2011-09-13 16:45:19Z

I came across your post. I am researching family from Malden, and have been looking at the Hargraves/Hargreaves family.

I am currently looking at William Robert Hargreaves born May 1832 in England, and arrived in the US in 1854. He married Sarah McClaren about 1855 and resided in Malden.

They have 8 children born between 1861 and 1881.

I was wondering if you found any information. Perhaps they are brothers. I will continue to research, but I have not been able to find any other Hargreaves in Malden during that time. The spelling varies from Hargraves to Hargreaves.

-Deb
deborah_redley@comcast.net

Re: Family Knowledge - Fred HARGREAVES of Accrington or Blackburn area of Lancashire, England 20C

colespainting — 2011-07-26 19:36:45Z

Hi,
I am just starting to research my mothers family tree in new zealand and uk. I have a death certificate 1960 for Harry Hargreaves my grandfather born burnley lancashire. His parents Henry james Hargreaves occupation carrier married to Ruth formerly bulcock. Any connection with these names? quite big family in new zealand
Cole - colespainting@woosh.co.nz

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

WHMeg — 2011-07-14 20:50:58Z

Headed your way tomorrow!

Re: Harold Edward Hargreaves, b abt 1908 living in Preston, Lancs., England in 1968

2011-07-09 14:40:24Z

Hello

I am writing from England. I am also trying to locate my father, Harold Edward Hargreaves. He is around 60 years old now, last known living in Preston, Lancashire, England in 1968, have you had any replies which may be relevant to my query? Have you had any luck using the message boards? Would be good to hear from you.

Best of luck with your searching.

Wendy

wendyparga@yahoo.co.uk

Re: Harold Edward Hargreaves, b abt 1908 living in Preston, Lancs., England in 1968

suemarycan — 2011-07-09 14:40:12Z

Wendy! Please contact me at suemarycan@netscape.net so we can compare our info.
Love to all & good luck!
Sue

Re: Alice Hargreaves, (1914) Bradford, Yorkshire, England

jjbabs14 — 2011-07-09 14:39:51Z

My mum, Alice Hargreaves (1914) knew of the name Vivian as being a surname. Occasionally it was a surname that she referred to.

Alice Hargreaves, (1914) Bradford, Yorkshire, England

jjbabs14 — 2011-07-09 14:39:35Z

Hi. My mum was Alice Hargreaves, (1914) Bradford. She spent all her school holidays in the Blackpool area. She could never explain the relationship of those she stayed with. So I take it, that the relationship / connection was complicated and difficult for a childs understanding.

Alice said she met Reginald Dixon, regularly while staying in Blackpool. He was the (Tower Organist), and because of the relationship, Alice was able to go into Blackpool Tower to hear him play.

Alice's father was Fred Hargreaves (1891 Bfd. son/of Richard Hargreaves and Mary, nee Hodgkins. Beatrice (1893) Preston, Lancashire. Apart from Beatrice, all the siblings were born in Bfd. Fred died in 1917 W.W.1. I suspect that was the reason why Alice spent school holidays with extended Hargreaves family. Freds widow, Phyllis, nee King, encouraged the visits to Blackpool. And the relatives were not hers. But visits to Blackpool stopped about 1923 when Alice was 9yrs.

Alice never understood why the visits stopped. I've not found the Hargreaves easy, but does any of this sound familiar.

If this relates to the earlier post re. Edna Drage. I can only place 1 Edna in my mums life, and that was an Edna Wade (1916)Bfd. Edna married 1stly. Waddington, 2ndly. Bricklebank. Should Edna be an inherited family name, Could this link to the Hargreaves in your tree, and Edna Drage?

Harold Edward Hargreaves, b abt 1908 living in Preston, Lancs., England in 1968

2011-07-09 14:37:42Z

Hello

I wonder if there is any connection here, I also have cousins in Canada. I am trying to locate my father, Harold Edward Hargreaves, aged around 60, last known living in Preston, Lancashire, England in 1968. Are you able to help please?

Kind regards

Wendy

wendyparga@yahoo.co.uk

Re: William and Romena HARGREAVES in Akron,Summit Co Ohio, USA early 20C

SHavens60 — 2011-06-26 03:48:01Z

Hello John, Thank you for responding. It's nice to meet a new relative. I have one picture of Romena. She was beautiful.
A while back I corresponded with Paul Reichert. He is I believe the grandson of Rosetta (Bogart)Reichert. He is in his 80's and lives near Lake Erie. I have not spoken with him in about five years.
Are all of the Hargreaves still in Ohio? It would be nice to know where they are today.
I have a brother John and a sister Diane who live in Florida. My parents are both deceased.
I would love to have a picture of Romena. Can you tell me anything about her?
So there was Ralphert, Rosetta, Romena Madge and one child died very young, I think Maude.
Sally

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

Mark26H1 — 2011-06-25 17:51:58Z

Hi,

I emailed my mailing address to you, but I haven't heard anything and am concerned it may have been lost in the mail. Would you please let me know if you sent this?

Thanks!
Mark

Re: William and Romena HARGREAVES in Akron,Summit Co Ohio, USA early 20C

hargeken — 2011-06-25 01:08:31Z

Hi John,
How are you? I've just start to look at our family history. I'm Ken the youngest son of Bill and Helen Hargreaves. Have you done much work on the Hargreaves family. Ken

HARGREAVES Victor S. Jr. - Ohio, USA d 2011

Lace_Lynch — 2011-06-24 13:56:18Z

WELLSVILLE, Ohio – Victor S. “Skip” Hargreaves Jr., died Wednesday, June 22, 2011, at the Beaver Medical Center in Beaver, Pa., following a brief illness.

He was born in East Liverpool, Ohio (Columbiana County) on Oct. 16, 1946, and was the son of Victor S. and Delores M. (Smith) Hargreaves Sr. of Wellsville.

Mr. Hargreaves had worked in Tennessee before moving back to the area in 1997.

He was a 1964 graduate of East Liverpool High School.

In addition to his parents, he is survived by two brothers, Robert L. Hargreaves of Hanoverton, and Michael A. Hargreaves and his wife, Vicky of Liberty Township.

He was preceded in death by a sister; a niece; and a great-nephew.

Visitation will be held at the Calcutta Chapel of the Martin MacLean Altmeyer Funeral Homes on Saturday, June 25, 2011, from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m.

Private graveside services will be held at the United Presbyterian Cemetery of Calcutta.

Memorial contributions may be made to the American Cancer Society.

Family and friends may visit www.altmeyer.com to view this obituary, sign the guest book or send condolences on line.

Re: William and Romena HARGREAVES in Akron,Summit Co Ohio, USA early 20C

jhrgrvs — 2011-06-23 18:38:59Z

Sally,

Romena was my grandmother. She and William had four sons of which my father was the youngest.

If you will send me an e-mail address, I'll send you pictures of William and his sons in .pdf format, as well as a picture of Romena taken around 1945.

Sincerely,

John Hargreaves

Re: James Albert HARGREAVES born 1901, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

jayarn60 — 2011-06-19 21:08:45Z

Thanks I have most of the details of the others it was just James Albert we didn't know about until i pulled up the 1911 census s he's a it of a mystery.
Jay

Re: James Albert HARGREAVES born 1901, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

Fiona_Bathgate — 2011-06-19 20:34:35Z

Sorry I can't help with the death except to say that I found one in the GRO Indexes for a James A of abt the right age in Hull in 1950

You may also have this information already....

From the LAN OPC site www.lan-opc.org.uk

Baptisms: 12 Jun 1901 St Andrew, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
James Albert Hargreaves - Child of James William Hargreaves & Mary Ann
Born: 13 May 1901
Abode: Nuttall St.
Occupation: Tramway Employee
Baptised by: Charles F. Wood
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1924, Page 186, Entry 1482
Source: LDS Film 1849642

and some other children...

Baptisms: 17 Jun 1888 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Arthur Hargreaves - Son of James William Hargreaves & Mary Ann
Born: 1 Jun 1888
Abode: 5 Duke St
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: C.M.Buckley Rev
Register: Baptisms 1885 - 1890, Page 414
Source: LDS Film 1470815-6

Baptisms: 15 Sep 1889 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Margaret Ann Hargreaves - Dau of James William Hargreaves & Mary Ann
Born: 30 Aug 1889
Abode: 5 Duke St
Occupation: Weaver
Baptised by: Wm Fairclough curate
Register: Baptisms 1885 - 1890, Page 437
Source: LDS Film 1470815-6

Baptisms: 10 Jul 1898 St Andrew, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Florence Hergreaves - Child of James William Hergreaves & Mary Ann
Born: 28 May 1898
Abode: 308 Bolton Road
Occupation: Eating House Keper
Baptised by: E. C. Poulter
Register: Baptisms 1877 - 1924, Page 163, Entry 1297
Source: LDS Film 1849642

and the marriage...

Marriage: 14 Dec 1887 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
James William Hargreaves - 25 Cotton Weaver bachelor of 23 Grove Street
Mary Ann Abbott - 24 Cotton Weaver spinster of 7 Stanhill Street
Groom's Father: William Hargreaves, Labourer
Bride's Father: William Abbott, Fire Beater
Witness: Robert Allan; Margaret Swift
Married by certificate by: Boulby Haslewood Vicar
Notes: [date just says December]
Register: Marriages 1887 - 1898, Page 8, Entry 15
Source: LDS Film 1470816

The LAncashire BMD site www.lancashirebmd.org.uk also has these births with the mother's maden name of ABBOTT

James Albert HARGREAVES born 1901, Blackburn, Lancashire, England

jayarn60 — 2011-06-19 20:23:38Z

looking for info about james albert hargreaves born 1901, blackburn, Lancashire. parents james william hagreaves and mary ann hargreaves. I have him age 9 on the 1911 census but can't find his death date anywhere. Since we didn't know he existed until I saw the 1911 census I feel he may have died young or become estranged from the family.

Re: Family Knowledge - Fred HARGREAVES of Accrington or Blackburn area of Lancashire, England 20C

Fiona_Bathgate — 2011-06-17 13:13:37Z

Hello Jim

What you need to do is get your parents marriage certificate which will give you your HARGREAVES grandfather's name and occupation.

You can then use the information to search for your father on the census (if he was born before 1911) and to get his birth certificate to get his parents' names. His death certificate will have his birthdate and place of birth if he died after 1969.

Some good websites for Lancashire (free) are OPC - www.lab-opc.org.uk which are transcriptions of parish registers and the LAncsBMD site www.lancashirebmd.org.uk which are the registrars indexes - but for teh Accrington Area (Hyndburn) have the mother's maiden name on from 1837 and also have age at death from 1837.

Fiona (also with ancestors from Accrington and Blackburn)

Family Knowledge - Fred HARGREAVES of Accrington or Blackburn area of Lancashire, England 20C

jameshargreaves1948 — 2011-06-17 13:08:00Z

Hi there, would there be a chance of family connection with the my ancesters from the Accrington/Blackburn area in England. My father was called Fred Hargreaves and he married a Vera Stott from Yorkshire, Barnsley I think is right. He had an uncle Harry and his father had a haulage buisness and went to live in the isle of man to dodge taxes, but most of life happened before I came on the scene so I don't really know too much about anybody. I know that my mother was a maid at my granddads house when my Father Fred Hargreaves (the son of my grandfather)got her pregnant. My grandfather to prevent the shame and insult of having an illegitamate child in his family ties, then forced my mother and his son to marry so the child would be born within wedlock. that child was my older brother George Arther Hargreaves, next came my sister Mary Hargreaves,who later became married to a Terry Roche of the Raf,then came me James Hargreaves. I was always told that I was named after my Grandfather, but which? And next I found that the one that I had grown up beleiving to be my Grandfather was not, and that that my Mothers father had committed suicide because he was Epileptic. My grandmother from my mothers side said that she was dumped on a doorstep at birth and brought up by an old lady up to being about six then she was signed over to the workhouse to live and worked in the bobbin mill. Basically I'm stuck with ancestry unless somebody can help me, Do I fit into your Hargreaves tree at all, hope to hear from you best wishes jim

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

WHMeg — 2011-05-30 15:37:35Z

Wow... sorry this is taking me so long to get to you. But maybe Memorial Day is appropriate, yet, email me at lllmeg@yahoo.com with your address and I can send it to you.

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

Mark26H1 — 2011-04-28 23:56:17Z

Hi, Thank you for your offer. You could send it to me and I would see that my siblings get copies. Please let me know if you would be willing to do this.
Thanks,
Mark

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

WHMeg — 2011-03-21 15:18:58Z

You are very welcome. I would like to return the letter either to a local historical society and/or family member but only if any and all family members here (or elsewhere) can agree. Any suggestions?

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

Mark26H1 — 2011-03-19 03:04:03Z

Well, all I can say is it was quite a shock to see a letter from my dad written 46 years ago & during the war. I am so glad you posted it and I was able to find it. It would be great to know the connection, but my dad has passed and the Alzheimer makes it not possible to get the information from your mom. I have printed a copy of the envelope and letter. Thanks again!

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

WHMeg — 2011-03-16 16:45:36Z

It very well could be. My Mom's Alzheimer's is so severe at this point, that I can't ask her. In fact, I didn't find this letter (or the ones my Dad wrote) until I was cleaning out the basement and found a box in the bottom of a metal cabinet. It was with other boxes that had used candles in them, so it was by the grace of God that I opened this one and found these letters!

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

Mark26H1 — 2011-03-16 02:10:36Z

Or is it possible you mom wrote to people or a person in the service as a pen pal type thing to keep up the spirits of those overseas? I do recall hearing about this type of activity.

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

RuthMcGuire52 — 2011-03-13 21:24:19Z

The only thing that I can think of is a shipmate by the name of Eddy Wasinkowicz (spelling is in question).

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

WHMeg — 2011-03-13 20:03:08Z

Okay, so here's my question -- do either of you have any idea how he would "find" my Mom in Wallingford, CT and end up corresponding with her? We don't have any direct family connections with Massachusetts. The only possible connection of which I can conceive is that my Uncle Vernon Schumacher (my mom's brother) married Antonia (Toni) Grace Holtei who was born in Boston, MA in 1919. My Mom didn't have any siblings in the service, but I suppose your Dad's unit might have had someone else from Wallingford in it and maybe they passed my Mom's name and address on.

Re: Pickles Hargreaves, Jr. (1924-2004) USA

RuthMcGuire52 — 2011-03-13 14:41:08Z

This is my Dad's letter alright. I recognize the handwriting. I am Mark's sister. My dad married Dorothy Atkinson in November 1944. They had four children: Thomas (1949), David (1950), Ruth (1952) and Mark (1954). Thank you for posting this.