Hodgetts - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Hodgetts - Staffs, England

ryanhodgetts2 — 2012-04-23 01:24:09Z

Linda, do you still want info regarding Henry Hodgetts?

Philip Hodgetts

Re: Hodgetts from PA

ireblues — 2012-03-16 08:55:44Z

Hi Amy,

My great grandfather is also Samuel, but on my dad's side. His daughter Emma married Patrick Muldoon and they stayed in the Lackawanna area of Pennsylvania.

Re: Charles Hodgetts

ourfutreword — 2012-03-14 11:39:56Z

You deserve to know the answer. You have waited way too long already. I will open my tree to you and you will find out why it was like your ancestors were dropped off by a UFO.

HODGETTS Worcestershire HARRY b. 1861

davidblackshoes — 2012-01-17 13:50:03Z

Looking for any info on the Hodgetts family from Worcestershire area. My great grandfather was Harry Hodgetts, b. 1863. I believe I found him in the 1881 census age 18, listed as born in Halesowen, residng in West Bromwich, Oldbury. There are 3 others listed at the same address: Susannah b.1830 51 yrs of age HEAD, and two others, being William b. 1861 and Mary b. 1867
It seems as if this is a mother and 3 children.
I find nothing in any of the earlier censuses for Harry; 1881 is the last year possible as he immigrated to NJ in 1885 coming through Castle Garden and then on to Somerset County NJ, where he owned a farm (in Pluckemin / Bridgewater now). His wife's name was Amplias, and they had three daughters (all born in the USA). He died 29 Aug 1896, shot to death by a farmhand.
Any info/leads as to his parents, relatives, would be most appreciated.
This is his gravestone in Somerset County NJ Pluckemin Presbyterian Church Cemetery

Re: Hodgetts from Birmingham

davidblackshoes — 2012-01-17 13:45:07Z

My great-grandfather was Harry Hodgetts- he and his wife immigrated to NJ (Somerset County) from England. They had three daughters: Dorothy, Amplias, & my grandmother, Ella (not Elise and you did have a ? mark there).
He was murdered by one of his farmhands at the family's house (shot, when he answered the front door early one morning during breakfast). I have newspaper clipping about this.
I can check on exact dates, but this happened just about the turn of the century, and my grandmother was 6 months old (the baby of the 3 girls), and Harry was quite young (perhaps 30 yrs old, I believe).
If you think this would match, email me if you'd like.
And feel free to pass this along to any others who are searching and might find it relevant.
---------------
Ella married Archibald Thomas Bell; they lived in Elizabeth NJ for years; had one son (my father: Archie Harry Bell) who m. Dorothy Ann Koepchen (Krentz was her mother's maiden name). Dorothy and Amplias remained in Pluckemin / Bridgewater, NJ all their lives-
Amy

Herbert Taylor Hodgetts of Houston, TX 1918

drbrownlee — 2011-06-13 05:07:16Z

Herbert is pictured in the 1918 Aegis, yearbook of Central High School in Houston, and is a senior. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Re: Hodgetts from PA

AmyGrover — 2011-01-25 01:37:03Z

Hello Mary,

I see you posted this a long long time ago, so I hope you see it. Samuel Hodgetts would be my great grandfather on my mother's side. My brother's middle name is Samuel - after him. My grandfather is Samuel's son, his name was Joseph Edward Hodgetts (died in 1982). He was a coal miner in PA for awhile, then he married my grandmother Anne Chomin and they moved to Vermont, and they had 4 children - the oldest is my mother, Olga Hodgetts (now Hebert). The four kids are Olga, Eddie (think he is a Junior), Richard and Eva. Most of them have children and grandchildren also, except my uncle Eddie. My great uncle John Hodgetts just died last month (Rochester NY)- he was the youngest of Samuel's children. I'm sure my mother could tell you so much more about that particular branch of the family. So just get in touch if you get this! Nice to meet you!

Re: Hodgetts from Birmingham

leaderofthepack8 — 2010-10-11 10:29:36Z

Please could you give me any more details. My Grandmother Mildred Harper Hodgetts, her father was Rowland Hodgetts born st Thomas Dudley and his father was Lewis Hodgetts and his father was Benjamin Hodgetts.
Do you think there would be a connection.
Please Email me at
leader_of_the_pack8@hotmail.com

regards
Sylvia Pack

Wiliam Hodgetts

VH1925 — 2010-03-06 14:37:18Z

Looking for living relatives or further information about William Hodgetts born 1913 Oldbury, Worcs son of James Hodgetts.
Any info appreciated.

Re: Hodgetts from PA

ohlisao — 2010-02-19 23:29:30Z

Any chance a Samuel Hodgetts married to Elizabeth Wilt or Wilf with a daughter Alice Virginia is in your family.

I am seeking info on them. Alice was born in Allegheny Co. 13 Jun 1861. She married Patrick Laurence Fallon. Seeking their marriage data.

Re: Hodgetts, Shelia

fogmog — 2010-02-04 01:51:39Z

Hi Jemima
Just reading the thread on Hodgetts and came across your answer dated 2003. Sheila Hodgetts was the wife of Eric grandson to Samuel Hodgetts. This Samuel and my g.grandfather James were brothers so this makes us about second cousins twice removed. Are you interested in Family History?
Cheers Ann (from New Zealand)

Re: Martha Hodgetts

slimsmedley — 2010-01-06 08:17:54Z

G'day Salli

Mary Ann's sister Elizabeth married Edward PICKARD at Cathcart Vic on 24 Sept 1857 "in the tent of Mr Baker". She was only 17 and "living with her mother". This was the clue that Martha had emmigrated to Aust. as well and set me to looking very hard at the Star of the East passenger list to find Martha WAISTELL recorded as Martha Wright! You've got to be a bit cluey in this genealogical game.

Unfortunately, Elizabeth died in Vic. in 1863. I've not yet tried too hard to track their brother John.

I would love to have a copy of the Grandma Garlick photo. I have one of her brother John Charles that I can send, plus a few certs. as well.

Please contact me on my private e-mail at dsmedley8ozemail.com.au replacing the "8" with an "@" of course. I have also been in further contact with David above & he has provided me with some other info.

Cheers, Darryl

Re: Martha Hodgetts

salli_argall — 2010-01-06 00:05:12Z

hi Daryl
Yes I did start this thread back in 2002 {gosh how time flies} I have on my tree that Mary ann had a brother John and a sister Elizabeth. Havent any record of their death date. Though it looks like from Davids post, that John did not travel to Australia but rather stayed with his uncle Joseph. I Have that George Garlick and Jane East had eleven children. Have a photo of Mary Jane Waistell with another woman whom the family always was led to believe was Grandma Garlick. Would be happy to swap info with you.

cheers Salli

Re: Martha Hodgetts

slimsmedley — 2010-01-05 09:31:07Z

Yes we are, Martha's first marriage was to William SHAW in Dudley in 1835. Their daughter Mary Ann SHAW m. Charles EAST in Melbourne in 1854 and their son John Charles was my GGGrandfather. Martha married Christopher Waistell in 1846.

It took me a long time to find Martha's arrival in Australia due to the transcription error/crook captain's manifest.

Do you need any more info on Martha's antecedents? Happy to oblidge.

Are you the Salli Argall that originated this thread back in 2002? If so, I see back then that you had also some interest in the Garlick family. The Jane EAST that married George GARLICK in 1873 was the sister of my GGGrandfather, John Charles EAST.

Cheers, Darryl

Re: Martha Hodgetts

salli_argall — 2010-01-02 12:53:38Z

hi Daryl. You seem to be on the same Hodgetts line as I am. My Great grandmother was Mary jane Waistell b.28 Aug 1856 died 16 April 1933. She was the Daughter of Christopher and Martha. Mary jane had a brother James b; 1848 at Staffordshire England and died 26th October 1866 at Dunolly, and a sister Ann b;1854 and died 1907.

Re: Death of William HODGETTS

slimsmedley — 2009-11-03 22:05:21Z

Mine is Martha HODGETTS bapt 25 Dec 1817 d. of John & Jane Rowley Regis, Staff. Nailer of Whiteheathgate. Siblings James 1815, Mary Ann 1820 and Joseph 1822.

The surname of mother Jane is unknown.

Martha m. William SHAW at Dudley in 1835 and after his death m. Christopher WAISTELL at Quinton, Worcester in 1846.
The family emmigrated to Victoria in 1853. She died at White Hills in 1886.

Do we link?

Cheers

Darryl
Sydney, Australia

Re: Death of William HODGETTS

lesliewilliam_wood — 2009-11-03 15:24:12Z

Hello Darryl
I'm presuming you are researching Hodgetts around
the Worcs/Staffs areas
I have H ancestors - boatmen/coaldealers

Jackie

Death of William HODGETTS

slimsmedley — 2009-10-26 03:47:26Z

Willaim HODGETTS, Glassmanufacturer, died in Kingswinford in 1845 & I have the certificate.

Unfortunately he turned out to be not one of mine.

I'm happy to pass on the details to anyone with an interest in this bloke.

Darryl

Sydney, Australia

Re: Martha Hodgetts

slimsmedley — 2009-09-22 23:55:25Z

G'day David

All good info & that that I have quickly cross-checked with my own info tallies. Except, & this is where this genealogy game gets interesting/infuriating, for "my" Martha HODGETTS.

Her 1886 death cert in Victoria lists her parents as William HOGGETS, Clerk in Iron Works and Jane HOGGETS. Hoggets is obviously a corruption of Hodgetts.

There is the marriage of William HODGETTS and Jane HALE on 6 Nov 1815 at Sedgley, Staffordshire (IGI Batch No.M009982) I understand that Sedgley is but one parish removed from Rowley Regis. Unfortunately there aren't any births for HODGETTS or any corruption of the name in this parish.

I'm going to have to look deeper into this but as I'm in Australia I'm a bit limited to what info is on-line.

I'll get back to you soon

Cheers,
Darryl

Re: Martha Hodgetts

Lewstal — 2009-09-22 17:27:35Z

Hi Darryl
Thanks for the reply.
Sorry to be so long in replying but have been doing some more digging.
Re my Ancestor Joseph Hodgetts.
I find him on the 1851 Census in Coalville Leics.
Birthplace is listed as Whiteheathgate, which turns out to be in Rowley Regis, Staffs not Worcs. Living with him is a nephew John Shaw, who must be the son of Martha and William.
From Josephs Marriage Record, his fathers name is John.
From the Rowley Regis Baptism Records there are 4 children born to John and Jane Hodgetts of Whiteheathgate, including Martha and Joseph.
I have yet to find a death or burial for John Hodgetts I think that Jane remarried twice after his death. I also believe John was previously married to Mary Jarvis. There is a burial for Mary Hodgetts in 1813.
I have listed below a number of records that should prove of interest.

David
Leicestershire England

Census 1851 Coalville Leicestershire
Joseph Hodgetts 27 Married Head. Coalminer B Whiteheathgate Worcestershire
Ann Hodgetts 25 Married Wife . B Newhall Derbyshire
Joseph Hodgetts 5 Son b Coalville Leicestershire
Thomas Hodgetts 2 Son b Coalville Leicestershire
Jane Hodgetts 10m Daughter b Coalville Leicestershire
John Shaw 11 Nephew b Oldbury Worcestershire

Marriage 4th Feb 1845 Packington Leicestershire
Joseph Hodgetts (Hodditch) 22 Father John Hodgetts, Book Keeper
Ann Smith 19 Father Thomas Smith , Miner

IGI Marriage
John Hodgetts and Jane Priest 11/04/1814 St Thomas Dudley Worcs
Thomas Capestick and Jane Hodgetts 25/12/1826 St Thomas Dudley, Worcs
William Rason and Jane Copestick 10/12/1832 Halesowen, Worcs
William Shaw and Martha Hodgetts 25/12/1835 St Thomas Dudley Worcs

Baptisms, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire
05/03/1815 James son of John and Jane Hodgetts, Nailer of Whiteheathgate
25/12/1817 Martha Dau of John and Jane Hodgetts, Nailer of Whiteheathgate
02/04/1820 Mary Ann Dau of John and Jane Hodgetts, Nailer of Whiteheathgate
06/10/1822 Joseph son of John and Jane Hodgetts, Nailer of Whiteheathgate

IGI Baptism, Oldbury, Worcestershire
6/1/1828 Elizabeth d. Thos and Jane Copestick

Burials Rowley Regis
21/11/1813 Mary Hodgetts 35 Whiteheathgate, Decline
24/02/1822 Mary Ann Hodgetts 1 Whiteheathgate , Cold
14/03/1830 James Hodgetts 15 Rounds Green, Killed in Coal pit
31/08/1830 Thomas Copestick 24 Oldbury Killed in Coal pit

Burial Coalville Leicestershire
07/02/1852 John Shaw 12, address Coalville

1841 Census Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, Whiteheathgate
William Rason 30 Coal Miner
Jane Rason 47
John Hodgetts 14
Elizabeth Coapstick 12

William Shaw 25 Coal Miner
Martha Shaw 24
Mary Ann Shaw 4
John Shaw 1

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

shannoncreamer1 — 2009-09-11 14:12:51Z

Sorry--to clarify, the William Hodgetts in my family tree is the *father* of Phoebe. William was born about 1851 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire. He married Sarah Dudley, but I don't know when they married and I've no information on her.

Phoebe, their daughter, was born January 29, 1886. She first married a man by the surname of Mullett (first name may have been Clarence?), they had a daughter named Lillian, then came to the United States. They had two other children in addition to Lillian, but I'm not sure if they were born in England or the United States. Her first husband died, and she remarried to Francis Westwood and had three more children with him. My grandmother was one of those three children.

I know "Clarence" Mullett was involved in coal mining in the Staffordshire area.

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

maggiesmith1334 — 2009-09-11 08:10:50Z

Hello - thank you for your mail

All of my Hodgetts's were born in West Bromwich and moved to Tipton. I do have a William, born in 1840 to William and Maria Hodgetts. I have never found a marriage for William - do you have the marriage details of William and Phoebe. Do you know where your William was born?

Maggie

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

shannoncreamer1 — 2009-09-11 04:20:32Z

Maggie--I would be interested in what information you have. My great-grandmother, Phoebe Hodgetts, was born in Staffordshire in 1886. Her parents were William Hodgetts (born about 1851 in Rowley Regis, Staffordshire) and Sarah Dudley (no information on her yet.) Could the William Hodgetts in my family tree be the son of William Hodgetts, twin to your Sarah, perhaps?

(All these Williams and Sarahs are getting confusing!)

Re: Martha Hodgetts

slimsmedley — 2009-08-25 12:32:00Z

I have Martha in my tree. After the death of William SHAW she married Christopher WAISTELL in Q4 1846 Stourbridge, Staff. The family emmigrated to Victoria under the name of Wright (transcription error methinks) in 1853 on the Star of the East. She died at Maryborough Vic. in 1882. My decent is from her daughter Mary Ann SHAW who married Charles EAST in Melbourne in 1854.

Happy to swap info

Darryl

Sydney, Australia

Re: Gertrude Hodgetts Worcester

shirls115 — 2009-08-19 15:14:27Z

Hi
In my husbands maternal family we have Robert Walter Hodgetts married to Jane Dance their childeren wer Salina Malviana , Walter R and Robert Walter -I think all a bit vague lack of info but definite connection to boats and canals

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

seningen43 — 2009-06-30 12:12:54Z

Good morning, Maggie. Thomas is Mary Hodgetts' maiden name. I don't have anyone with the first name of Thomas either. My Mr. Hodgetts was Joseph, born about 1796 in Handsworth, Staffordshire. I have copies of the marriage license of Joseph HODGETTS and Mary THOMAS and then the baptismal record of their first son Joseph Alfred HODGETTS in 1833. Then a big gap until the 1851 census was taken. By 1851 Joseph Alfred was apprenticed and not living with his parents. I'm hoping to find some documentation of this family after 1833 and before 1851, but am not having any luck. So far, I haven't found a connection to Bromich though. Sandy

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

maggiesmith60 — 2009-06-30 03:32:57Z

Sorry Sandy - I think we have a different family. My 3 x Gr Grandfather William Hodgetts was born in West Bromwich in 1809 - I don't have a Thomas Hodgetts in my family.

Do you know where in Staffordshire your Thomas was born?

Best wishes - Maggie

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

seningen43 — 2009-06-29 12:30:45Z

My Joseph HODGETTS and Mary THOMAS were married 29 July 1830 at Clewer, Berkshire. He was born in Staffordshire; she in Nuneham, Oxfordshire. First child, which is my problem, Joseph Alfred (AKA Alfred, was baptised at Paddington 1833. Sandy

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

maggiesmith60 — 2009-06-29 06:09:38Z

Hello

Where were Thomas and Mary married? - all of my Hodgetts fmaily lived in Tipton.

Regards - Maggie

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

seningen43 — 2009-06-28 17:16:54Z

I would like to ask all of you searching Joseph HODGETTS and Mary THOMAS in and around Staffordshire if any documentation has been found between their marriage in 1830 and the 1851 census. I have a big gap and am trying to fill it. New email is SJPrince09@ATT.net

Re: Hodgetts Family, Staffordshire, England

seningen43 — 2009-06-28 17:15:04Z

Re: HODGETTS in Handsworth, Staffordshire

seningen43 — 2009-06-15 18:56:47Z

Thank you, Sandra, for your reply. We don't seem to align at all, do we? Sandy

Re: HODGETTS in Handsworth, Staffordshire

sandralindsay1 — 2009-06-15 16:19:59Z

Hi Sandy
This doesn't sound like my family but I know my Joseph had 2 families. As far as I know his children around the time of my Thomas are Ann 1786, Sarah 1787, Susannah 1796, Thomas 1797 all with wife Ann Hutchins. Earlier he had a son Joseph born in 1785 (I think) with wife Mary ?. I am very vague on all this so can't tell you anything 100% other than Thomas' date of birth. My Joseph 1749 - 1813 retired from military service in 1801.
Sorry I can't be of more help.
Sandra

Re: HODGETTS in Handsworth, Staffordshire

seningen43 — 2009-06-08 14:38:00Z

I have Joseph HODGETTS born Handsworth, Staffordshire about 1796; married Mary Thomas at Clewer, Berkshire in 1830; had 7 children. The oldest son was baptised at Paddington, Middlesex in 1833 and the others born in Kensington, Middlesex. Joseph worked as a servant and was at one point employed by a member of Parliament. I realize you said you have no birth records of your Joseph's children, but do you see anything here? Sandy

Re: Joseph HODGETTS of Middlesex

seningen43 — 2009-05-02 00:57:40Z

P.S. Children of Joseph & Mary were born in Kensington, Middlesex with exception who was born in Paddington.

Joseph HODGETTS of Middlesex

seningen43 — 2009-05-02 00:53:41Z

Joseph Hodgetts (b. abt 1796 Handsworth, Staffordshire) married Mary Thomas (b. abt 1806 Oxfordshire, Nuneham) at Clewer, Berkshire 26 July 1830. Children: Joseph Alfred Nov 1833, Mary J. abt 1836, George T. abt 1838, John W. abt 1841, Edward F. abt 1845, Harriet L. abt 1847, Charles abt 1854.
Joseph Alfred emigrated from England to USA 1861, married Margaret L., had 5 children, died 1907 at Philadelphia Pennsylvania USA.
Joseph Alfred's children: Mary/Margaret (Allen), Frances Maria (Russell), Joseph (1861-1861), Alfred Edward, William K/H.

Gertrude Hodgetts Worcester

pamors1 — 2009-01-07 10:05:49Z

My grandmother was the youngest child of a family who worked boats out from Worcester, Upton on Severn and Gloucester.
When her mother died they moved to Wylds Lane in Worcester.
I am researching their history and interested in the boats - The George and Serina.
Her father was John b 1838 and her mother was Betsy b 1835.
I have family history going back to the early 1800s - has anyone else got any details I can add?

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

fogmog — 2008-12-01 21:50:30Z

Hi Philip
Yes, it is a fascinating book and given the dates of the first traced Hodgetts I too think that connections will be made if only to the unmentioned non inheriting members of the family. Since last speaking to you I too have found connections moving towards the Kingswinford area. Would love to be in England and able to follow up. Are you able to get hold of someone in the Black Country Bugle which is based somewhere in the Kingswinford area. They have archives full of history both local and family but will not enter into a written correspondence with anyone. They may let you take a look. Is there some way we can exchange email addresses instead of using Ancestry?
Cheers Ann

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

valshaikh47 — 2008-12-01 12:05:51Z

Hi Ann, I managed to get hold of a copy of mahogany desk and look up a lot of info in there about the Hodgetts. What a fantastic list. After unravelling all the John's and others etc. my father and I have been able to establish that we do not originate from those Hodgetts listed in the book, however that said, the 10 generations of John Hodgetts that are not listed individually may well hold the key to the Thomas we are looking for. Gradually there has been a geographical shift in the Hodgetts I am tracing from the Handsworth area westward towards Kingswinford, which is significant and only 12 miles or so. I just hope I can find the link........ Having seen the picture of Emma Hodgson nee Hodgetts I am even more convinced of our family connection along the line somewhere as she is the spitting image of my paternal grandfather and his sister, gave me the shivers when I saw the remarkable resemblance across the decades.

Regards

Philip

Re: Martha Hodgetts

Lewstal — 2008-11-07 02:20:28Z

I think that Martha is the Sister of my ancestor Joseph Hodgetts. Both baptised at Rowley Regis Staffs. Martha in 1817 and Joseph in 1822. Parents were John and Jane. I believe after Johns Death that Jane married Thomas Capestick and Then William Rason. I can find nothing of them after 1841 census.
Any info appreciated

Phoebe Hodgetts

shannoncreamer1 — 2008-09-01 03:11:00Z

Looking for information on my great-grandmother's family.

Phoebe Hodgetts, born January 29, 1886 in Staffordshire. Married a man by the surname of Mullet (first name Clarence, possibly?) and had one daughter at least before immigrating to the United States (Belleville, Illinois). Mr. Mullet died in a coal mining accident and Phoebe remarried to Francis Westwood.

If anybody has additional information, I'd appreciate it. Thank you.

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

fogmog — 2008-08-22 00:08:23Z

Hi Phillip
Thank you for all your info. and sites. Hope you will let me know any new finds and connections you make as I believe the, 'base camp,' as it were, is to be found on the Eastern side of Wolverhampton. Have done a lot of ferreting in and around Wolverhampton. Have found some Hodgetts as far up as Stone but as that was a market and canal town travel would have been relatively easy. My g.g.g.grandfather was married in Stone.
Cheers Ann

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

valshaikh47 — 2008-08-15 13:42:06Z

Hi Ann, ISBN is International Standard Book Number. When a book is published it is given a unique number reference. If you open any book and look at the publisher details for the edition, year of publication etc etc the number should be there somewhere, unless of course such numbers where not in use in 1971. I was only three then so have no idea if books at that time had such numbers...... but I hope they do. The number usually is given like this; ISBN 0-7509-1418-1. However it doesn't matter as I have found the title at an antiquarian book sellers shop in Worcestershire which I hope to buy from them. It is out of print and the book is currently £25 which according to the current exchange rate would make the book about $67 NZD. Not bad for a 37 year old book. Hang on to it, it should grow in value!

Thanks for the additional info about the family and houses, I shall also try the Black Country Bugle, that sounds fascinating.

Many many thanks for your time and correspondence, most informative.

Kindest regards and best wishes
Philip

PS I found another title 'Stourbridge and it vicinity' published William Scott 1832. The book has been digitised by someone. I only found it by searching John Hodgetts Corbin Hall on google and up it popped. Some little titbits in there. Here is a link if you are interested. Scroll to page 132 and the info starts from there.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Gr8HAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA133&a...

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

fogmog — 2008-08-14 01:58:24Z

Hi Phillip
I'm afraid I do not know what an ISBN number is. I thought with the publication details your local library might be able to help but, I'm inclined to think the book will be out of print. Just re-read the section on the Gunpowder Plot and the house at the time was owned by Stephen Lyttleton one of the conspiritors. Shuttend House was owned by the Hodgetts from the early 1500's. "Shuttend was built in the time of Queen Elizabeth. John Hodgetts Esquire also bought Corbin Hall but it is unlikely that the Hodgetts ever lived there for the ten John Hodgetts of whom there is a record all lived at Shuttend House." Have you tried the Black Country Bugle newspaper. I contacted them once and they printed my letter. They won't enter into correspondence re family history but when they published my letter they put in quite a bit about the Hodgetts in the area. I believe they have extensive archives which they may let you into. I think they operate from the Kingswinford area in Wolverhampton. Hodgetts also owned Ashwood Lodge as early as 1650. This went to Thomas Rector of Kingswinford.
Cheers Ann

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

valshaikh47 — 2008-08-13 10:00:10Z

Hi Ann, what news that is about the Gunpowder Plot. I did not know about that. Do you have the ISBN number of the book please? I would like to try and get hold of a copy of that. It might lead me somewhere further down the road in my research. It is unlikely as my male Hodgetts all seemed to be named Thomas. There are one or two exceptions, but mainly they are Thomas. The book would still make an interesting read though and you just never know what links it might make possible especially with its pedigree chart.
Just thinking about Ag Lab, other lines of my ancestors that I have been looking down in Northumberland..... they are mostly Ag Lab, but where would be without them? Empty plates are no good to anyone. Very important work!

Thanks for the info

Regards

Philip

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

fogmog — 2008-08-12 22:50:19Z

Hi Phillip
I too have only managed to get back as far as 1790 with a George Hodgetts born in Stone Stafford. He married a Jane Smith born in Chester and moved into the Sedgley Wolverhampton area. So far all of mine were, what is termed the salt of the earth,(tongue in cheek), coal miners, carters, a royalty master, wool comber and the ubiquitous Ag.Lab. Thanks for the references. I knew the name evolved from the Norman Conquest. Did you know that a Hodgetts was involved in the gunpowder plot taking refuge at Holbeach House between Himley and Kingswinford? I have a book called,'Out of the Mahogany Desk,' by K.C. Hodgson. The first chapter is devoted to the Atwoods and the Hodgetts. It covers the period from 1736 - 1887. Published by the Research Publishing Co (Fudge & Co Ltd.), London 1971.
The pedigree chart gives Hodgetts of Shuttend House beginning with a Thomas Hodgetts 1492 who married a Joyce Thomins. Thomas is followed by 10 generations of John Hodgetts, his son being the first. This is still later than your John Hodgetts and Agnes but interesting that he is a John too. Perhaps he is Thomas's grandad?
Cheers Ann

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

valshaikh47 — 2008-08-12 16:02:34Z

Hi Ann,
glad you liked the pics of Hodgetts Lane. Yes it is very well presented.
The Hodgetts line I have followed has always been in the vicinity of Handsworth and Aston / All Saints / Birmingham.
My ancestors were in the jewellery trade right up till the 1960's in the Jewellery Quarter, other occupations over the last 200 years have included gunsmiths, silversmiths and electro-platers, one was a publican on the side!
One note of interest for me was that the first mention of a Hodgetts was actaully in Handsworth in 1430. Here is that info with a link you might find interesting. Perhaps all the Hodgetts of the midlands originated from this man and his wife!

The Hodgetts of Handsworth

The earliest references to the Hodgetts family appear to be in 1430-31 and in 1440 when John Hodgettes and Agnes, his wife, were concerned with grants of land. A hundred years later a John Hodgetts held of the lord of the manor a messuage and lands. It is probably this John who is described as yeoman of Lydiate in the earliest Parish Register of 1559. From the information supplied in the register of that time by William Walker, curate, later rector, one can get a picture of the Hodgetts family in Elizabethan times. John and Joan, his wife had six sons and five daughters. Their eldest son, William, is described as husbandman and later yeoman of "Le Grove" (1595), and probably inherited the family holdings to the east of Grove Lane. The homestead may have been on the same site as the eighteenth-century farmhouse which was demolished when the Public Baths were built in 1907. William and his wife had twelve children, two of whom died in infancy.

The above info can be found here;

http://www.handsworth-history.org/hhs_early_1.html

All very interesting stuff. My father was brought up in house on a street not far away from the Baths which replaced the homestead farm of Le Grove which was within what is now Handsworth Park. Grove Road still runs down the western edge of Handsworth Park which was my father's childhood play area!

I also found the origins of the family name interesting. This what The Oxford Names Companion has to say about it.

Bear in mind that the name comes from HODGE.

Hodge; English;

1 from the medieval given name Hodge, a pet form of Roger. For the change of initial cf. Hick and Hobb, also Hann.

2 nickname from Medieval English Hodge, hog, which occurs as a dialect variation of hogge, for example in Cheshire. placenames; cf Dodge.

Diminutives; Hodgin, Hodge(o)n; Hodgett; Hod(g)kin, Hotchkin, Hodskin.

Others also include; Hodges, Hod(g)son, Hodgshon including diminutives Hodgins, Hodgens, Hodgetts (common in the W Midlands) Hodg(s)kins, Hodgki(e)ss, Hadgkiss, Hotchkins, Hotchkiss, Hodg(e)kinson, Hodgkis(s)on Hodgeskison and Hodkinson.

Some Hodgetts were also sherrif's in Staffs and Shropshire. Whether they turn out to be relatives of ours only time will tell. Here is a link;

http://www.the-staffordshire-encyclopaedia.co.uk/view.php?id...

Scroll all the way down the page to the year 1702 and you will see a Humphrey Hodgetts and then follow on through the years and you will see others of his family that continue that trend. Just snippets of information that are so tantalising at this point in my research. I have only so far got to the 1841 census and traced the line back to individuals that were born about the 1770's. Whether I will ever be able to make connections that lead to the Sherrifs of Shrops and Staffs and ultimately John and Agnes of 1430 I have no idea. Perhaps others will be able to help us determine any links that might be possible.

I would also like to know (but perhaps never will) if there are any links to the peerage as Hodgetts are mentioned on the following site;

http://www.thepeerage.com/p24073.htm

All a pipe dream but I do have aspirations to have land, money and a throne hahaha!

The beauty of the internet eh! Unbeleivable that we discuss this whilst you are in the Southern Hemisphere and I am in the Yorkshire Dales.

Best of luck with your research. Who knows there might yet be a pot of gold at the other end of the Hodgetts Rainbow! LOL.

Regards

Philip

PS just to exhaust you completely there was also a Thomas Hodgetts who did engravings of some famous people. I suppose the engravings were done from paintings already in existence, but an interesting titbit anyway. Look here;

http://www.gac.culture.gov.uk/search/Artist.asp?maker_id=124...

Enjoy, the Hodgetts got themselves EVERYWHERE!

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

valshaikh47 — 2008-08-12 16:01:35Z

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

fogmog — 2008-08-12 03:14:26Z

Hi Phillip
Forgot to say that one branch of the Hodgetts moved to Nuneaton and Coventry. Is that any closer to yours.
Cheers Ann

Re: 1851 Census and Hodgetts Lower Gornal / Fold

fogmog — 2008-08-12 03:13:17Z

Hi Phillip
Thanks so much for the information. Isn't Hodgetts Lane presentable? Great photos. I wonder if the idea of a Fold as a small holding or farm could be extended to cottages in a mining area built and rented out by a Hodgetts?!! Or if there is some archive where onc could look up long gone land ownership?
Ann in New Zealand