Hoggan - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Scottish roots

jmack57 — 2012-05-15 02:35:21Z

Hi,My name is Jenny Mackay. I can't find much info on the Hoggan family tree. My grandfather was Frank Hoggan (1910-1974) the 3 generations before him were all James. Could there be a connection? Can you be of assistance. Thanks

Re: HOGGANS from Fife

nekdeny — 2011-10-27 19:40:10Z

John Hoggan House Painter married Elizabeth Matthews

They had a daughter Agnes Hoggan who married Robert Law 1905. They are my Grandparents on my Dad's side who had a brother John Law

I am finding it difficult to trace more of the Hoggan side of the family. I remember my Father saying one of the Hoggans stayed in Dubbieside and worked on the railway

Regards
Davina Kennedy (Nee LAW)

Re: Dunfermline - Scotland

nekdeny — 2011-07-14 21:41:39Z

John Hoggan (House Painter)and Elizabeth Matthew had a daughter Agnes Hoggan. She married my Gradfather Robert Law age 27 17/4/1905 Agnes (25) was staying at Rosilyn Street Kirkcaldy. My Father was also Robert Law Born 1916. There was also John elder brother, Mary,Married Fred Smith, Catherine (Kate) Married Tod Hunter, Nancy married Harry Burton

James HOGGAN and Euphemia SINCLAIR Dunfermline

dlgoz — 2011-05-12 15:46:53Z

Hi,

I am trying to track any descendants of Euphemia Sinclair (1879-1968) and her husband James Hoggan. They married in Dunfermline in 1906.

I am also interested in the descendants of any of Euphemia's siblings. She was the daughter of William Sinclair (1853-?) and Margaret Stewart (1851-1928.) Her siblings were Daniel, William, James, Isabella, John, Malcolm, and Margaret. William jR. died in S Africa about 1903 and wouLD love to learn more about that.

Re: Hoggans from Falkirk, Scotland

gladyspenn1 — 2011-01-06 02:06:08Z

To Peter re Hoggans-I am Cousin to your mum, Violet and daughter of Thomas Bonnar Hoggan, brother of Alexander Hoggan, who were the sons of John Hoggan and Helen Buchan. Would love to hear from you. Gladys Penn

Re: Kirkwood Port Elizabeth

AnnamarieViljoen59 — 2010-04-21 06:15:15Z

Thanx for the reply, like you say we might link up later on the tree again.
Cheers
Annamrie

Re: Kirkwood Port Elizabeth

champillet — 2010-04-20 14:29:11Z

Hi sorry I have taken so long to answer your e-mail,as I have been on holiday.
As far as I know we have no links with the Kirkwoods in Port Elizabeth,but with our ever increasing family tree anything is possible.
Regards

Re: Kirkwood Port Elizabeth

AnnamarieViljoen59 — 2010-04-07 13:11:06Z

Thelma
Do you know the Kirkwood's from Port Elizabeth?
My link is with Somers/Summers that might be linked to that surname for PE.

Let me know on my email please:
annamarie@isolite.co.za

Donald W. Hoggan of Puente, CA 1942

drbrownlee — 2010-03-12 05:56:38Z

Donald is pictured as a cadet officer in the yearbook of the 42-F Class at Goodfellow Field in San Angelo, Texas. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching family.

Re: hoggans in central scotland

Rosemary_Hoggan — 2009-05-31 18:28:00Z

I have 11 children for Matthew Hay Hoggan and Elizabeth Paton. Two,from his second married to Margaret Alexander. Is this Agnes b. Apr. 3 1873 married to David Johnstone? I have six children for them in my tree.

Re: hoggans in central scotland

alexanderhoggan — 2009-05-30 23:27:00Z

Hi

I am Alexander Hoggan my grandad was Matthew Hoggan of Cowdenbeath he was married to Mary Temple Hoggan they had 5 sons n 4 daughters

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

pat26438_1 — 2008-09-05 05:25:24Z

Don't know if this is of any help.
My g/g/g/grandmother Charlotte Marshall dob c1802 Sauchie married a Robert Snaddon 26 May 1827, have been able to track him down.. the interesting part is that on the 1841 census at Newtonshaw Clackmannanshire living with Agnes Marshall mother of Charlotte are Charlotte Cook 1826 Clacks and John Cook 1836 Sauchie, also at this adds is my g/g/grandmother Robina Sneddon born c1828
Don't know if any of this is applicable but youu never know LOL
Regards Pat..e.mail pat26438@hotmail.com

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

mygenes68 — 2008-08-28 18:20:08Z

Hi Michelle

Just had a previous message returned - without thinking just hit the Reply option for the Gatewayed version on the e-mail messages and didn't use the Message Board link.

Don't know if you have contacted Rosemary as yet......she's a fabulous source of info on all these connected families. She and I have been in contact for some time now. My main interests are SNEDDON, JARVIE and HOLLINSWORTH with HOGGAN, LOGAN, MUIRHEAD and umpteen others that have married into my lines or some of my ancestors numerous children chose as marriage partners. Would love to exchange info re the SNEDDONS, as well as all the other links even if only distant. So many cousins seem to have married cousins or cousins removed that if one doesn't include the more distant one's - in-laws lines - you'll never be able to figure out some of these families -

My Sneddon descent line: heads of family only:-
1. John SNADAN m Susan FERGUSON
(Susan's parents James Ferguson and Ann McEwan)
2. their son James SNEDDON m Isabella JARVIE
Isabella's parents John Jarvie & Jean Dawson)
3. their son James SNEDDON m Isabella McKean HOLLINSWORTH
(Isabella's parents James Hollinsworth &Janet Campbell)
4. their son James SNEDDON m 1)Matilda DAVIE 2)Esther Mary
FOSTER
5. their daur from m 2) Thelma SNEDDON m Thomas E HURLY.

The connection to Leishman/Kirkwood/Hoggan etc stems from a gGtUncle, Alexander brother of James Sneddon sons of John Snadan & Susan Ferguson. Alexander m Margaret MUIRHEAD which leads me to the Hoggan/ Logan/ Leishman /Kirkwood links, but there are also Jarvie links into some of these families as well just to add some multiple relationships along the way, and they all had large families!!!

Would love to share info with you as well, although I'm not nearly as up to date as Rosemary is with anything I have on line.

Look forward to hearing from you

Thelma
Johannesburg South Africa
(Why I chose this continent and didn't follow in the steps of my ancestors to Canada, USA or Australia is anyone's guess.....if you know of any Sneddons who did come this way - do let me know as I haven't been able to trace any thus far that I can link to!!)

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

mygenes68 — 2008-08-15 06:14:55Z

Hi
I have the marriage, April 1879 Falkirk, of Peter Leishman/Mary Aikman on the IGI which you suggest as a possible one for the parents of Peter Leishman married to Margaret Kirkwood, but can find no record of a Peter Leishman being born to them.

The children found thus far are - (ran a CBatch Search and a Parent Search) :-

Mary 10 MAY 1789 Falkirk
Janet 06 MAR 1791 Falkirk
James 15 FEB 1795 Falkirk
Janet 11 JUN 1797 Falkirk
Helen 16 JUN 1799 Falkirk
Robert 26 JAN 1806 Falkirk

In fact I can find no Peter Leishman on the IGI born anywhere in Scotland to match the Peter married to Margaret Kirkwood despite having the IGI entry for their marriage and a transcription of his DCert. If the age 65 yrs on the DCert, May 11 1870, Denny STI,is accurate then Peter would have been born +/- 1805 and considering the dates on the list above a birth between those of Helen and Robert would certainly fit.

Do you perhaps have more information re Peter's d.o.b. that would support the possibility of this Falkirk family being his?

My interest is in the various Sneddons and Jarvie lines who marry both Leishmans and Kirkwoods in several generations and connections to the Muirhead and Hoggan families - Margaret Muirhead having married a GGUncle of mine - Alexander Sneddon. Moyra, Rosemary, and Wyllie have all been helpful in sorting out these sometimes convoluted relationships so it's great to find someone else to compare notes with. Will watch future messages with interest.

Regards
Thelma
Johannesburg South Africa

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-05-29 17:44:40Z

Thank you for the e-mail,we think we have a German link in our family tree,but so far have found it difficult to gather any information on that.
The Leishman,s were coal miners,and its possible they came from Germany to Scotland as lead miners, if anyone has any information on that I would be very interested.

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

bbrown1181 — 2008-05-28 17:37:25Z

not sure we are related, but my great-great grandfather was John Peter Leisman, born about 1810 in Oldenburg Germany. He married Margared Klem and they came to southern Indiana in the early 1840's. They later moved to missouri and from there father west. I am looking for any info anyone has as I have just started to research this branch of my family
Betty

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-07 15:04:08Z

Hi Thelma. too many Peter,s in this tree,its peter Leisman married to Margaret Beggans that was married three times be careful with this one as we have had Beggans,Biggins and even Baggans at one point listed I was told this from another member, as to confuse you further Margaret Beggans and my mother-in law are also linked together.
You said this was also your line ,where do you fit in ?

Regards Moyra

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-07 14:49:55Z

Thanks for the info on Robert born to Peter Leishman and Margaret Kirkwood would love more on them,also if you have more than 6 siblings for Margaret Kirwood and Peter Leishman,
Sometimes confusing as we have too many peter,s in the family tree.

Moyra

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-07 10:25:39Z

Moyra,

Robert son of Peter Leishman and Margeret Kirkwood was b 08/11/1856, married Margaret Yeats 31/12/1886( they had 4 chldren)and think he had a second wife Elizabeth Johnston from which there are two Children) He died 16/08/1933 in Airdrie

I have details on the offspring of both mariages if required

Regards

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

mygenes68 — 2008-03-06 17:44:43Z

Thanks - was getting worried - I have the first two but as yet haven't found the third one Biggins - off to search for same now. Just wasn't sure which Margaret married to a Peter you were referring to.

Thanks for the quick response

Thelma
Johannesburg South Africa

Re: Leishman

champillet — 2008-03-06 16:05:51Z

William Leishman married to Catherine McDougal Bell also died young as did Catherine leaving 6 children to be brought up with anybody that wanted them Peter and Lachlan my father-in law went to the Campbell,s farm in Mull the older girls went into domestic sevice,and the babies went to neighbours.
Moyra

Re: Leishman

champillet — 2008-03-06 15:55:29Z

Hi Peter Leishman married to Margaret Kirkwood ,so far I have only 6 siblings listed Peter married to Mary Hoggan James married to Helen Sneddon William married Mary Stirling if I said Agnes sorry about that he also married janet Jeffrey and had only one child Peter our line,Thomas also listed 1842-1868 John married to Agnes Gilchrist,and Robert nothing on him if you have more would love to know.

Moyra

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-06 15:43:15Z

Yes we have a difficult line here as Margaret Biggins married three times Leishman,campbell and McFarlane.Peter Leishman married to Margaret Beggins died in the street of a heart problems at 22 years old,they had two children at the time, Janet,William was my husbands grand father.
She went on to marry into the campbell family and had two sons.
Moyra

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-06 14:41:25Z

Sorry for confusion. I am referring to Margaret Biggins who married Pete Leishman 9/10/1891 and was son of William Leishman and Janet Jeffrey. William being the son of Peter and Margaret.

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

mygenes68 — 2008-03-06 12:05:20Z

Hi

Moyra and I are connected to the same lines, including all listed in this subject line - are you referring to Peter Leishman married to Margaret Kirkwood when you say Peter's wife was married three times, or one of other the Peter Leishmans that are descendants?

Thelma
Johannesburg South Africa

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-06 10:19:52Z

Thanks Moyra,

Seems like Peter Leishmans wife Naragert Leishman was married three times? Did you know this?

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-04 15:22:24Z

Thanks for the e-mail thats a good idea,but for the others my husbands line is PETER LEISHMAN AND MARGARTET KIRKWOOD
WILLIAM LEISMAN AND JANET JEFFREY
PETER LEISMAN AND MARGARET BEGGINS
WILLIAM DURWARD LEISHMAN AND CATHERINE
McDOUGAL BELL(ADOPTED)BORN MILLIGAN
LACHLAN McDOUGAL BELL AND ANN McILWRAITH MY HUSBAND ARCHIE LEISHMAN ONLY CHILD.
Hope that helps a lot more to tell would rather tell by your e-mail.
Moyra

Leishman

gurnep01 — 2008-03-04 13:34:54Z

Moyra,

Still not sure of your line. I do have the peop;e you have mentioned. However I have William's first wife as Mary Stirling Not Agnes (Married 12/07/1867 in Castlecary Cunbernauld.)
Peter leishman from Williams second mariage to Janet Jeffrey(
Married 16/06/1871 In Denny)was born 24/12/1871 in Cunbernauld and married Margaret Brggins 9/10/1891 in Haggs. Unfortunately he died 19/04/1894 and I have not found any offspring from their marriage so will now trace Janet and Willaim.

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-03 14:51:06Z

Hi Rosemary just double checked Margaret and it is 17 May 1869 not 1859 thanks for pointing that out,I also did not have Ellen 1876 listed,or Janet 1867,but I do have a Thomas born 1882 and I have the death cert saying death 1899 and he was a foundry worker and single at 17 years old.
Regards Moyra Leishman

Re: Kirkwood, Stirling Jeffrey,Beggins

champillet — 2008-03-03 14:17:12Z

Hi Pete,can now see your family line,hoped you were one of my line as we have many missing Leishman,s due to the early death of grandparents.
After Peter Leishman married to Margaret Kirkwood we have William Leishman born 1840 married to first Agnes Stirling no chidren .
His second wife Janet Jeffrey they had one son Peter Leishman born in 1872 married to Margaret Beggins they had Janet b 1893 William b also listed as 1893.
Hope this helps you see my line.

Regards Moyra Leishman

Leishman Kirkwood

champillet — 2008-03-02 14:03:29Z

Pete can I ask your parents names as it looks as if we are linked in the Leishman Kirkwood line .

Regards Moyra Leishman

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

bezzogo — 2008-03-02 11:01:27Z

Can we have a change of heading here please? The names in the heading are no longer relevant to the discussion.
Thanks
Bez

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-02 10:51:00Z

Moyra,

Before my dad died he also told me he thought there was a link with Germany.

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-01 15:53:30Z

Hi Thelma like Pete I have never assumed anything Peter Leishman married to Margaret Kirkwood has always been a problem I have the same problem in my own family tree with only the father listed and no mother,but I have had missing children on the sibling search before so its still possible Mary Aikman was the mother, there is a family story saying the leishman,s came from Germany a long time ago but I know from family stories they can be false,although we have an aunt still alive at 90 years old that still says we have a German connection so I think anything is possible.Hope we can all continue to give each other help on this one ,the person cracking this problem wins more than a pat on the back

Regards Moyra Leishman

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-01 15:35:57Z

Hi Wyllie,I do not have much on Peter Leishman Married to Margaret Kirkwood he was married in 1834 in Denny Stirling,and died in 1870 in Denny Margaret died in 1867 she was the daughter of James Kirkwood and Agnes Stirling.
I have listed James and Agnes having seven children Thomas 1813,Margaret 1818,Agnes 1821,James 1823,Mary 1825,Alexander 1830 John 1830.

Regards Moyra Leishman

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-01 15:34:43Z

Moyra,

My line is :

Me - Peter Leishman
Parents - Robert Leishman + Living Parent
GP - Peter Leishman + Christina Dickson
G GP - Robert Leishman + Mary Drummond
GG GP - Peter Leishman + Mary Hoggan
GGG GP - Peter Leishman (B.1805) + Margaret Kirkwood
GGGG GP - Peter Leishman + Mary Aikman?

Where does your Husband fit in? I have found 8 siblings for 1805 Peter.

My e-mail is p_gurney@sky.com if you would prefer to communicate privately

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-01 15:22:02Z

Wyllie
Have invited you to my Leishman tree as thought this would be easier. I may have other members not yet added but most of the names on this tree have been backed up with evidence I have personaly found

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-03-01 15:08:19Z

Hi Pete, we all seem to have the same problem just now I do not want to assume Mary Aikman is the mother as Peter is not listed on the sibling search odd when six siblings are listed. I also have not found another Peter Leishman on the Scottish records or English ones.
I am married to a Leishman and Peter born 1805 is also the Great Great Great Grandad of my husband,so would love to know your line ?.
Regards Moyra

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

wylliefyfe — 2008-03-01 13:09:32Z

Pete

Can you supply me with info on descendants of Peter Leishan & Margaret Kirkwood? I can supply you with a report of what I have

Wyllie

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-01 10:13:02Z

Thelma,

See my post to Moyra, I have found all the siblings that you have for pete and Mary Aikman but can also not find any birth record for a Peter Leishman in 1805, could it be that he was not registered? Like Moyra I strongly believe that mary Aikman is his mother.

Big pat on the back to however can prove this one!
Regards
Pete Gurney

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-01 10:05:27Z

Moyra,

Like you I am also a bit stuck as there is no Mother on Peter's death cert. I can also not find a birth cert for a Peter Leishman born in 1805.(By the way he is my Great Great Great Grandad). I too am working on the assumption that his mother was Mary Aikman because of various Census records and groups of siblings.
It is very frustrating as I am relunctant to go further back without the evidence.

Regards
Pete Gurney

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-03-01 09:40:08Z

Thanks for this, my name is Pete Gurney (formerly Leishman).
I have many descendents from Margaret and Peter I am dtrugginly a bit on Peters ancestors

Regards

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

wylliefyfe — 2008-03-01 08:51:52Z

my interest is in the Kirkwood line (which is in my granddaughters' tree)
So I do not have any info re the ancestors of Peter Leishman

However I do have quite a lot on his descendants and would be willing to supply this if you were interested.

Wyllie Fyfe

PS I do not seem to have your name

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

wylliefyfe — 2008-03-01 08:38:44Z

Moyra/Rosemary

Additional info for this family which may be of interest:

James Leishman died 5 December 1875 at Hollandbush, parish of Denny aged 2 years
parents: James Leishman coal miner/Helen Leishman ms Sneddon
father reported death

I also don't have a Margaret born in 1859

Wyllie

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

wylliefyfe — 2008-03-01 08:31:15Z

Moyra

Thanks for reply. The info adds to my file

Apologies for not responding sooner. I've been out of circulation for 2 weeks

Wyllie

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-02-29 15:41:29Z

I am very interested in your family tree,our direct link is Peter Leishman and Margaret Kirkwood,have not been able to go any further as Peter,s death cert says only father,s name no mother is listed.I have often suspected it could be Mary Aikman,but have nothing to back me up.

Regards Moyra Leishman

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

gurnep01 — 2008-02-29 14:03:28Z

Hi Wyllie,
I am new to this message board concept so bear with me!
I am very interested in the Leishman line. I have traced the Kirkwood line back to James Kirkwood how married Agnes Stirling 20 Jun 1813. But my real interest as I say is the Leishman line. I believe a Peter Leishman married Margaret Kirkwood in 1834 his parents were Peter and Mary Aikman and I believe this Peter's parents were James and Janet Russell but have few details on these. Can you help?

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-02-18 15:03:02Z

Hi Thelma nice to hear from you again,the only Sneddon or Snaddan I have on my tree is Helen Sneddon married to James Leishman,James being the son of Peter Leishman and Margaret Kirkwood.
Moyra Leishman

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

Rosemary_Hoggan — 2008-02-17 22:19:03Z

Hi, Wyllie and Moyra,
I didn't have a Margaret born in 1859 - interesting, or is it the Margaret of 1869?
Children I have are:
Peter: May 18, 1865 Denny LDS IGI
Janet: Jun 16, 1867 Denny
Margaret May 17, 1869 Denny LDS IGI
Alexander: Jun 8, 1871, Denny LDS IGI
James: Aug. 28, 1873
Ellen: 1876 1881 census
Robert: 1879 1881 census
Hi wyllie always willing to help with anything.
Helen Snedden or Snadden was born 1838 -1896 she died on25th May in Longcroft Haggs Stirling married to James Leishman a coal miner he was born 1838 he died on the 5th Feb 1892 also at Longcroft So far I have found they had margaret 1859,Peter 1865,Alexander 1871,james 1873,Alexander married Ellen Marr 29th Dec 1899 in Haggs she was a domestic servant and he was a coal miner.
Hope this helps you .

Rosemary

Regards Moyra Leishman

Re: HOGGAN, LOGAN, COOK, SNADDON, DOWNS, EASTON, MANSON, DICK

champillet — 2008-02-17 21:35:53Z

Hi wyllie always willing to help with anything.
Helen Snedden or Snadden was born 1838 -1896 she died on25th May in Longcroft Haggs Stirling married to James Leishman a coal miner he was born 1838 he died on the 5th Feb 1892 also at Longcroft So far I have found they had margaret 1859,Peter 1865,Alexander 1871,james 1873,Alexander married Ellen Marr 29th Dec 1899 in Haggs she was a domestic servant and he was a coal miner.
Hope this helps you .
Regards Moyra Leishman