Holderness - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: LAZARUS HOLDERNESS FROM HORTON, BUCKS AND LONDON

@@rogrundon@yahoo.com — 2010-08-12 15:20:17Z

I don't think I have a Thomas in my line with that birth date. Do you know where he was born? Mine seem to originate in Buckinghamshire and then later London. There were lots of Holderness families around that area so may be a connection to find at some point?

Re: LAZARUS HOLDERNESS FROM HORTON, BUCKS AND LONDON

gunner3380 — 2010-08-11 11:06:56Z

Hello, I have just read your post on Ancestry.co.uk. I have been researching my family since 1993 and can tell you that I am connected to Lazarus. It is confusing as there were several Lazarus's and George's. George Holderness was born in Horton and died approx 1714. He had a son Lazarus born approx 1681 in Horton. He married a Jane and died on the 5th June 1756 in Horton. He had another son called Lazarus who I only have a death date of 1748 in Langley, Bucks.

He had a brother George who also had a son called Lazarus who was born in approx 1766 who married Catherine.They had a son Lazarus George Holderness. After that I require more details of your line.

Lazarus George was married three times. He was a widower by the time he married Mary Ann Delasalle in 1851. His 3rd Marriage was Bigamous. He was found Guilty and confined for six months for Bigamy at the Central Criminal Court on the 14th Sept 1857 he was 61 years of age. His occupation was given as Shoemaker when he married Mary Ann.

I go right back to John Holderness born approx 1575.

Look forward to hearing from you. Please use my email address gunner3380@yahoo.co.uk

Best regards,
Keith

Guy Holderness in Stamford, TX 1914

drbrownlee — 2010-08-11 05:29:16Z

Guy is pictured in the 1914 Pyramid, yearbook of Stamford College in Stamford, Texas. The school, supported by the Methodist Church, closed in 1918. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Re: LAZARUS HOLDERNESS FROM HORTON, BUCKS AND LONDON

holderne — 2010-07-22 15:57:51Z

I may be related to Lazurus Holderness. I have traced my line back to Thomas Holderness who was born in England circa 1787. He later moved to Halifax Nova Scotia, Canada. He had one child, George Holderness.

Unless someone in England has some very specific records (as Thomas was a common name), the best bet for establishing a connection is via a DNA test. A few of us Holderness males have taken such a test. I would strongly encourage other Holderness males to take the test. It is very simple and cheap. It is how genealogy is now going.

Please feel free to contact me through this board or directly at holderne@bc.edu.

Clifford Holderness

Re: holderness family tree

chuckmva — 2010-07-15 18:14:13Z

Chuck, Just this week someone from Kenosha made contact with me who is also descended from Rebecca Williams, but her second husband RAPHAEL. She has posted on the WMs board.

LAZARUS HOLDERNESS FROM HORTON, BUCKS AND LONDON

rorostevens — 2010-06-27 07:21:15Z

Does anyone have a connection with Lazurus Holderness born in Horton, Buckinghamshire in 1766 approx, England or any of his descendants? He married Catherine West Ingram in 1795 and I descend through his grandaughter Mary Ann Holderness born 1826 in London who married William Henry Stevens in 1857 and moved to Leicestershire eventually. I think I have Lazarus's line going back to George Holderness sometime before 1665 in Horton so someone out there must have a link to my line?

Lazarus Holderness UK

rorostevens — 2010-06-26 20:15:08Z

Will the person who emailed me in mid June 2010 please get in touch again as I accidentally deleted her email before I could deal with it. It concerned George Holderness and her own descent through Mary DeLasalle.She had seen a very old post of mine on the Abney cemetery website and we definitely share the same tree at some point
Rosemarie

Re: HOLDERNESS - IOWA,Canada, England

chuckmva — 2010-02-19 16:09:40Z

Sorry Mark, I just noted my email address was being blocked, that's fixed. At @gmail.com. It should show up now if you clik on my name.

Was that son of John by chance Edward, c 1853 who is in your line? How many generations back in your line to the first Holderness? first Holderness male? Does Creston Iowa ring any bells?

Re: HOLDERNESS - IOWA,Canada, England

chuckmva — 2010-02-16 22:28:29Z

Bubwith, John, early 1800's matches up pretty well. Which of his children are you descended from.....? Contact via email if you like. Chuck

Re: HOLDERNESS - IOWA,Canada, England

markhowell124 — 2010-02-16 17:07:37Z

Chuck,
I would be interested in anything you have on the Holderness family.
I am decended from a John Holderness, born in Bubwith, Yorkshire in about 1805. Does this match with anything you have?

Thanks

Re: Rashdale Holderness

saralking1 — 2010-01-22 19:21:59Z

Thank you! I've so far found four Rashdall/Rashdales - it's handy having such an unusual name as you can be sure it's the right family!

I found the William H born in Halton Holegate and knew he must be joined to this Rashdale (I was guessing brother) as he has a Rashdale(b.1844) for a nephew mentioned in the 1861 Census. I've not been able to find where this nephew Rashdale comes from either

Thanks again - I'll have a search through the IGI, see if I can find any more info.

Re: Rashdale Holderness

chuckmva — 2010-01-20 02:41:41Z

I have the following info which seems to relate. You do have the right parish so reviewing the files from there may bear more fruit.

Rashdale Rastal Holderness b 22 May 1797 Halton Holgate, Lincoln England. Son of John Holderness and Mary ???

Wife, Mary Ann
Children: Mary Ann c 1820
John, c 1821
Charles A, c 1823
George c 1825
Andrew c 1838

No guarantees on the info, I believe it probably sourced from the IGI that might be another place to go.

Additionally, Rashdale Rastal H had several siblings as follows.
Mary, c 1799
John c 1801
Henry c 1803
Maria c 1805
Robert Cross c 1807
William c 1809
all born in HaltonGate

I have some dates on above as well. Contact via email if you are interested.

Hope this helps, Chuck Holderness

p.s. I also have mention of another Rashdale who had a child Ernest c 1889. This Rashdale was son of Spilsby H.

Rashdale Holderness

saralking1 — 2010-01-17 10:11:54Z

Hi

I'm looking for any information relating to Rashdale Holderness, born about 1798 in Lincolnshire (possibly Halton Holegate). He appears on the 1841 Census but so far I've not been able to locate any other information regarding his parentage or siblings.

Any info would be greatly appreciated!

Many thanks

Re: family tree info

penwith — 2009-12-19 21:06:57Z

Hi, my great grandmother, Anna Eliza Holderness, came from England to Iowa. She married Samuel Remley and they and their family moved from Iowa, to Kansas, to Oklahoma and finally to the four corners area of Colorado. Would any of your Holderness people belonged to Anna Eliza?

Thanks, penwith

Thomas Alfred HOLDERNESS

MikeHorton50 — 2009-12-02 09:06:05Z

Vanda NURTHEN was born in the June quarter of 1843 in Paddington, Middx, parents Richard and Eliza. I think that she was baptised at St James, Paddington on 18/1/1844 and I am looking for the parish details of the birth and baptism, can anyone help me. She married Thomas Alfred HOLDERNESS in 1866
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: Vanda NURTHEN

DaveBoylan — 2009-11-30 21:15:51Z

You're welcome Mike. There's nothing like killing off the ancestors with kindness. Glad to oblige. I'm sure I'll write again when I find other relatives that need to killed off, or at least found in baptism, birth, and death records.

Regards,

Dave

Re: Holderness name.......

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 19:29:05Z

does your brother's son have any of the research that his dad did and would he be able to share it with his family. bttrfly346@mchsi.com

family tree info

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 18:08:00Z

i would be interested in any info that anyone would like to share i have a lot of info could answer many questions if you need answers reach me at bttrfly346@mchsi.com or mail address is p.o box 346 riverside iowa 52327 name is ruth holerness poggenpohl thanks

Re: Ardillus Holderness

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 18:01:24Z

bj would like to keep in touch for ardillus is my grandfather as well bttrfly346@mchsi.com

Re: Holderness IOWA line

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 17:56:56Z

i am related to you and have alot of the family tree info please email me and i will try to give you info thanks bttrfly346@mchsi.com

Re: Holderness: Iowa

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 17:47:08Z

hi i am also related on the iowa line of holdernesses and would like to stay in touch with you as well. thanks bttrfly346@mchsi.com

Re: Holderness name.......

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 17:43:37Z

you are in my family tree and would enjoy keeping in touch my email address is bttrfly346@mchsi.com

Re: just thought

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 17:39:13Z

kathy i am your cousin i am lillian and susan's sister maybe we could keep in touch and share what we both have for our side ruth poggenpohl bttrfly346@mchsi.com thanks

Re: related???

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 17:33:35Z

hi karen i am your cousin and would like the information that you have about your family for i don't have any of the cousins after your dad. zelma and john are my aunt and uncle on my dads side. david your dad is my cousin my email is bttrfly346@mchsi.com or my address is p.o.box 346 riverside iowa 52327

Re: holderness family tree

bttrfly346 — 2009-11-30 17:18:51Z

my new email address is bttrfly346@mchsi.com i think we could be related

Re: Vanda NURTHEN

MikeHorton50 — 2009-11-29 09:56:49Z

Dear Dave,
Many thanks for your reply and death information. Both Charlotte and Frances Martha HOLDERNESS are part of my wider family and I only knew that they were still alive and unmarried in 1911. You have now kindly 'killed them off' which is something I always try an do.
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: Vanda NURTHEN

DaveBoylan — 2009-11-28 18:30:04Z

You're welcome Mike. I also wondered how Vanda ended up in Bracknell in 1861. On a different surname, I located the GRO death indexes for Charlotte Holderness and Frances M. Holderness, and am wondering if these are what you are looking for. I didn't find evidence that either had ever married.

The indexes follow:

Deaths Jun 1916

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Holderness Charlotte 76 Staines 3a 16
____

Deaths Jun 1931

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Holderness Frances M 71 Staines 3a 25
____

Kind Regards Mike,

Dave

Re: John HOLDERNESS

MikeHorton50 — 2009-11-17 09:41:55Z

Dear Susan,
Many thanks for the baptism of the child John Thomas and then finding him in the 1861 Census as a visitor back in Uxbridge. This might help to confirm that Sarah, the mother, was away and in London where I found a possible entry in 1861. It still leaves the mystery as to where the father was. By a coincidence, my grandparents lived in Uxbridge and I stayed with them for many school holidays and so I knew the town very well although it has changed out of all recognition since the 1950's.
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: John HOLDERNESS

Susan2670 — 2009-11-16 19:13:58Z

I do not know what became of John & Sarah, but did
find the following..

Name: John Thomas Holderness
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 5 Oct 1854
Father's Name: John Holderness - Whitesmith
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Holderness
Home Address: Uxbridge
Parish: Saint Margaret, Uxbridge
Borough: Hillingdon
County: Middlesex

1861 census RG9/768 Folio 118
Henry Tuckwell Head 40 b Uxbridge...Coachman, domestic
Sarah Tuckwell Wife 54 b Lincoln, Lincolnshire
Frederick Turkell Son 24 unm b Denham, Buckinghamshire...Dyer
Sarah Yeoman Visitor 9 b Uxbridge
John Thos Holderness Visitor 6 b Uxbridge
Windsor St, Uxbridge, Middlesex

Re: John HOLDERNESS

MikeHorton50 — 2009-11-16 16:00:31Z

Dear Susan,
Many thanks for the marriage details of John HOLDERNESS and Sarah YEOMAN as I only knew that they married in the March quarter of 1852 in Uxbridge District. Your details confirm that I have the correct people as my John was a Whitesmith and his father was Thomas, a shoemaker. I have found Sara in Marylebone, Middx in 1861 with a 2 month infant but no John. Have you any idea what happened to them after their marriage.
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: John HOLDERNESS

Susan2670 — 2009-11-16 14:02:47Z

You may already have this..

Name: John Holderness( Bachelor)- occ. Whitesmith
Age: Above
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Yeoman (Spinster)
Age: Above
Address: West Drayton
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 15 Feb 1852
Parish: Saint Martin, West Drayton
County: Middlesex
Borough: Hillingdon
Father Name: Thomas Holderness - occ. Shoemaker
Spouse Father Name: John Yeomans - occ. Painter

Re: Vanda NURTHEN

MikeHorton50 — 2009-11-14 15:47:33Z

Dear Dave,
Many thanks for the baptismal reference of Vanda NURTHEN and the additional one for her brother was a bonus. I wonder how she ended up in Bracknell in 1861, perhaps she was taken with the family when they moved out of London. Anyway, I really do appreciate your help.
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: Vanda NURTHEN

DaveBoylan — 2009-11-14 13:37:52Z

Hello Mike,

I located Vanda’s baptism record at the Ancestry.com subscription website, which confirms the date of baptism you have for her in St. James, Paddington as 18 January 1844. Her date of birth is not given in the record, which shows her parents were Richard and Eliza Nurthen who were living in Harrow Road at the time the baptism occurred. Richard’s occupation is given as shoemaker. A note by the clergyman who performed the baptism, J.W. Buckley, states, “Privately Baptized.” This is an indication that Vanda may have been baptized at home rather than in church because of illness. But, that is just a guess. A transcription of the record follows:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: Vanda Nurthen
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 18 Jan 1844
Father's Name: Richard Nurthen
Mother's Name: Eliza Nurthen
Abode: Harrow Road
Profession: Shoemaker
Clergyman: J.W. Buckley, Curate
Notes: Private Baptism
Parish: Saint James, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint James, Paddington, Register of baptisms, P87/JS, Item 008
____

I also located the baptism record of a another child of Richard and Eliza Murthen. This is for George Murthen who was born on 13 November 1839 and baptized in St. James, Paddington on 26 June 1844. I could not make out the name of the clergyman who baptized George:

London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906

Name: George Nurthen
Record Type: Birth/Baptism
Birth: Nov 13 1839
Baptism Date: June 26 1844
Father's Name: Richard Nurthen
Mother's Name: Eliza Nurthen
Abode: Harrow Road
Profession: Shoemaker
Clergyman: ?
Parish: Saint James, Paddington
Borough: Westminster
County: Middlesex

Source Citation: London Metropolitan Archives, Saint James, Paddington, Register of baptisms, P87/JS, Item 008
____

I also found 19 year old Vanda in the 1861 census working as a kitchen maid in the household of John and Anne Coningham, in an address of Heath Street Lodge, Winkfield, Berkshire. John Coningham must have been very wealthy. He was a merchant for the East India Company. Along with Vanda, there are eleven other servants in the household:

1861 England Census

Civil parish: Winkfield
County/Island: Berkshire
Country: England

Street Address: Heath Street Lodge

Registration district: Easthampstead
Sub-registration district: Bracknell
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Household schedule number: 86

Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 756; Folio: 81; Page: 14; GSU roll: 542696.

Name, Relation to Head of Household, Condition as to Marriage, Sex, Age, Occupation, Where Born

John Coningham, head, Married, Male, 43, Merchant, East India, Middlesex St. Pancras
Anne Coningham, Wife, Married, Female, 42, Ireland
Elizabeth Dasent, Sister, Married, Female, 48, Middlesex St. Pancras
Charlotte Dasant, Niece, Unmarried, Female, 15, Middlesex St. James Westminster
John Russell, Servant, Married, Male, 31, Butler, Middlesex Hounslow
Emily Russell, Servant, Married, Female, 30, Housekeeper, Suffolk West Stow
Ellen Craske, Servant, Unmarried, Female, 18, Housemaid, Suffolk West Stow
Elizabeth Buckner, Servant, Unmarried, Female, 27, Housemaid, Stoke? Bucks
Ellen Davies, Servant, Unmarried, Female, 19, Kitchen Maid, Wales Doldelen
Vanda Nurthen, Servant, Unmarried, Female, 19, Kitchen Maid, Middx St. Pancras
Eliza Keffer, Servant, Unmarried, Female, 25, Laundrty Maid, Middx Chelsea
William Randall, Servant, Married, Male, 29, Gardener, Wilts Stockton
Elizabeth Randall, Servant, Married, Female, 28, Berks Rapley Winkfield
Walter Gaylor, Servant, Unmarried, Male, 2, Middx Paddington
George Milen, Servant, Unmarried, Male, 20, Groom, Birks Finchampstead
Leonard Wigg, Servant, Unmarried, Male, 24, Groom, Berks Warfield
____

Best Wishes Mike,

Dave

Re: Ardillus Holderness

bjtexas2 — 2009-11-06 18:51:01Z

Hi Karen,

Ardillus Holderness was my great-grandfather. Mary Grandmother was Margaret Alice (Mary) Holderness. I
remember meeting one or two of her sisters but that
was many years ago.

Bob

Re: holderness

rksktn — 2009-10-27 17:31:27Z

hello
your grand mother was my aunt Ardillius was my grand father If you would like to get in contact with me Id like to share some ifo and update mine with your family info.
please email me
kathy

John HOLDERNESS

MikeHorton50 — 2009-09-22 09:15:50Z

John HOLDERNESS was born in Colnbrook, Bucks in 1826, parents Thomas and Charlotte. He married Sarah Ann YEOMAN in the March quarter 1852 in Uxbridge District, Middx. Can anyone give me the parish details of this marriage.
I have completly lost track of them after the marriage and so any information on his spouse and children would be wonderful as I have little information about them. In particular can anyone give me the parish details of both of their deaths and burials
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: holderness family tree

jackiet83 — 2009-09-18 22:42:32Z

.My mother was Sylvia Holderness, daughter of jack and hannah from Hull, Humberside. Her uncle was George Holderness who went on expedition with Ernest Shackleton. She has 2 brothers George and Ian and 1 sister Beryl all now living in the St Helens area. A number of residences she lived in in Hull was Albert Avenue, Inglemire Road and Hessle Road. Born in 1944 she died in 1989 in St. Helens. Her father Jack died in Hull about 1956. He was in the navy and then a trawler man

Re: holderness family tree

chuckmva — 2009-09-15 23:57:25Z

I am connected to a family tree which had its start in England. I am aware of at least four or five family trees of families Holderness that began in England. What are you seeking specifically?

Frances Martha HOLDERNESS 1860

MikeHorton50 — 2009-09-14 16:21:54Z

Frances Martha HOLDERNESS was born in Colnbrook, Bucks in 1860, parents William and Sarah Ann. I am looking for any marriage and also her death / burial. She possibly never married, but if she did after 1901 any information on her spouse and children would be wonderful as I have little information about her. She might have moved to Staines, Middlesex by 1911 and so I have posted on the Middlesex board as well.
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Charlotte HOLDERNESS 1839

MikeHorton50 — 2009-09-14 14:56:08Z

Charlotte Holderness was born in Horton, Bucks in 1839, parents William and Sarah Ann. I am looking for any marriage and also her death / burial. She possibly never married, but if she did after 1881 any information on her spouse and children would be wonderful as I have little information about her. She might have moved to Staines, Middlesex by 1911 and so I have posted on the Middlesex board as well.
Best wishes,
Mike Horton

Re: holderness family tree

rksktn — 2009-09-01 21:11:02Z

would like to get in contact with you about holdernesses in england. please email me so I can ask you about your family to see if we are connected..
rksktn@charter.net
thanks ktn

link 3 brothers

jssmcgrath — 2009-09-01 19:48:17Z

could anyone help me please, trying to find edward holderness 1892 ? , married gladys ? (from wales ) had son ronald 1935 :
Jack holderness 1890 ? married rachel ? they lived in scotland
Thomas holderness 1891 died 1950 scotland married alice fielder , the brothers were possily born in london. cant link them .

HOLDERNESS Edna Marthann 1896-2002

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-22 01:42:10Z

HOLDERNESS Edna Marthann 1896-2002

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HOLDERNESS Sidney 1897-1983

t42MountOlivet — 2009-07-22 01:41:59Z

HOLDERNESS Sidney 1897-1983

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HOLDERNESS Harry H 1944-

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-07 01:40:38Z

HOLDERNESS Harry H 1944-

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HOLDERNESS James L 1920-1997

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-07 01:40:28Z

HOLDERNESS James L 1920-1997

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HOLDERNESS Harry H 1914-1944

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-07 01:40:15Z

HOLDERNESS Harry H 1914-1944

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HOLDERNESS Lou D and J Kyle

t42RoseHill — 2009-05-07 01:39:58Z

HOLDERNESS Lou D and J Kyle

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Re: Holderness name.......

vkholmes127 — 2009-01-06 22:26:22Z

Not that I know of. My mother's husband was a Thomas Holderness and they lived in Leeds, Yorkshire - till he left and went to Bridlington, Yorkshire. There he died of TB in 1945/46. I don't know much about that side of the family - my brother Arthur Holderness did eventually start researching his name, but he passed away a couple of years ago, and his son has no interest in pursuing it.
Am not 100% sure, but I do believe there was a Reverend ? Holderness in a parish in Lancashire who had at least 2 daughters. Didn't think Holderness was a common name, but perhaps it was a couple of centuries ago up North in Yorkshire, and perhaps some of the men immigrated to the new Americas! Perhaps we're all related, distantly, as Colin Powell apparently was to Princess Diana - distantly!~

Good luck, thanks, and take care!
Val....

Re: Holderness name.......

chuckmva — 2009-01-06 22:00:01Z

Was your Tom's wife Fannie Clark by chance? I have him born in Coningsby, Lincoln, England; may be January 01, 1820

He had a son Tom in 1857 who died in 1867.

Fannie was buried in Rolfe IA.

Does any of that fit your info? I have a few generations back from Tom to Robert/Robert and a parish in England if any of that would help. I note your post was several years ago.

Contact me by email if it works for you.