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    <pubDate>2009-11-28 23:28:59Z</pubDate>
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      <title>William O. &amp;amp; Anna Isabelle (Strouss) Irish - Montgomery, Kansas</title>
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      <description>Searching for information about William O. Irish who married Anna Isabelle Strouss on 10 Oct 1898 at Joplin, Jasper County, Missouri.  They later moved to Kansas and resided in Elk City in both the 1920 and 1930 census schedules.  I am especially interested in the Strouss family line.</description>
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      <title>look up beatty family from antrim belfast ireland </title>
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      <description> i have an samuel beatty b.about 1884 belfast, antrim, ireland .moved to england some when  and married in wallasey to a  christine cunningham b. scotland .also dont know ,can any one help ? find marriage and where they live and more of there family if possible .samuel was a boat joiner in wallasey.</description>
      <pubDate>2009-10-06 16:49:30Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Rebecca Irish--Herrick Ripley of Rutland Vermont area</title>
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      <description>Are you still looking?</description>
      <pubDate>2009-09-17 05:03:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: ?</title>
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      <description>On the RootsWeb page, click UK &amp;amp; Ireland, Ireland, and then the county.  Good Luck!</description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-26 16:15:45Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: ?</title>
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      <description>sorry if i have posted it the wrong place could you direct me to where i should put it im new to this thank you x</description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-26 09:03:49Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Did you intend to post this on the site for the surname IRISH?  </description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-26 01:12:41Z</pubDate>
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      <title>hoy </title>
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      <description>looking for any information on a william guy craig hoy born 1925 this is my husbands father who hes never seen  he married a catherine mary scothern but then  divorced ?? they married in manchester but the residence of his farther was 44 fleet st lane county antrim ireland he was a marine engineer his father was a robert hoy that is all i know! he may of got remarried so my husband may have half brothers or sisters out there if any one can help it would be gratfuly appreciated thank you  &lt;a href="mailto://sharon.hoy@sjafilmtech.com"&gt;sharon.hoy@sjafilmtech.com&lt;/a&gt; </description>
      <pubDate>2009-08-14 11:22:01Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Job Irish Jr - Betsey O'Brian family Lebanon, CT - Southbridge, MA</title>
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      <description>Has anyone researched this family beyond what is written in the Descendants of John Irish ... p. 181?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think I may have a connection to this line but have been unable to document it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isaac C. Irish born abt 1811 in CT (death record of his son Samuel says his father Isaac was born Lebanon, CT.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1810 census - Lebanon CT has 1 Irish family headed by Job Irish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1820 Finds a Job Irish in Columbia, CT.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1840 Census finds Job Irish and Isaac Irish heading households in Southbridge, MA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Isaac Irish married Lucy Dodge in Southbridge, MA on 13 Jan 1840.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have plenty of information and documentation to share on the descendants of Isaac and Lucy.  I am looking for documentaion and information to support or refute the theory that Isaac C. Irish was a son of Job Irish and Betsey O'Brian.  I have not found mention of this family in the Barbour Collection.&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-06-23 11:46:39Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Descendants of John Irish, 1629-1963</title>
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      <description>I found the book online &amp;amp; feel that almost all of the 15,000 some desc. must be listed as my husband's grandfather is on it at # 14,ooo something.&lt;br&gt;My mother=in-law did not answer the query letter when it was mailed to her back in the 50's or 60's so My husband &amp;amp; his father are not in it.&lt;br&gt;The title I have is "John Irish  b. abt 1617 at Barrow, Somerset" etc. I must have got it from Anc.com or try the internet.&lt;br&gt;I also have the book.&lt;br&gt;Sharon Kent Irish     &lt;a href="mailto://Irishnibarra@aol.com"&gt;Irishnibarra@aol.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-05-03 15:14:07Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Descendants of John Irish, 1629-1963</title>
      <link>http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/surnames.irish/159.235.1/mb.ashx</link>
      <description>Here are two ways to find it on the Web.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://lthome.com/genealogy/index.php" target="_blank"&gt;http://lthome.com/genealogy/index.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&amp;amp;db=john-irish-1600&amp;amp;id=I05120" target="_blank"&gt;http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-05-03 15:12:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Descendants of John Irish, 1629-1963</title>
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      <description>I do know that the Descendants of John Irish has been recorded on the internet. I have the book, and find many mistakes in it. However, it is informative and gives many sources. As for a Gedcom, I doubt if any one has taken the time to do such extensive work. Not sure if the book was copied on Roots Web or another site. Has been a lone time since I looked at it.&lt;br&gt;Gayle Irish Wolz</description>
      <pubDate>2009-05-02 18:55:53Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: James Irish </title>
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      <description>Dear Thomas,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I misstated where James was from. It was not Tipperary County. I didn't look at my tree and got him mixed up with the McMahons. There is a US Census record for James that has County Kerry Ireland as the place of birth but Kerry is crossed out and "Mayo" is written.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;idget was born in Rathmore with Nohaval and Kilcummin, Kerry, Ireland and baptized at St. Josephs Church in Rathmore. I have been there. I have James and Bridget on English census records in 1881 (Harrington, Cumberland, England),1891(Distington, Cumberland, England) and 1901(Workington Cumberland England). Left 6/25/1904on the St. Paul Arrived in New York City Ellis Island 7/4/1904 and went to Rome, NY. Their daughter Cecilia was my paternal grandmother.</description>
      <pubDate>2009-04-20 11:35:15Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: James Irish </title>
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      <description>Yes James is from Glenmore in county Kilkenny.All the Irish families have been from there for the past 250 years. My family are from there so I am pretty sure and I have lots of documentation on them. The only Irish family in co. Tipperary live in Carrick on Suir and originally came from Glenmore. If you know of any Irishes from Tipperary I would be interested as it would be a line I would like to look at. Ryan is a tipperary name but is also found in other counties. James is not listed in any of the parish registers for his birth year or there about, so I have constructed a possible story to let him fit. It is long so it would contact me by email at &lt;a href="mailto://thomasirishartist@gmail.com"&gt;thomasirishartist@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could you let me know where Bridget was born? regards T.</description>
      <pubDate>2009-04-19 20:52:10Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: James Irish </title>
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      <description>Do you have any documentation showing they lived in Glenmore? I have found where Bridget was born and where James and Bridget lived after they went to Wales. I have been unable to find any documentation on James, where he was born or baptized or who his parents were. He may have been born in County Tipperary.</description>
      <pubDate>2009-04-18 18:11:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: James Irish </title>
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      <description>Aine, I can give you some information on James Irish and Bridget Ryan.I dont know how much background you have on them but I imagine it is mainly their lifes in the U.S.&lt;br&gt;They came from an area in South Kilkenny called GLENMORE.&lt;br&gt;If you look at a map of Ireland it is about 8 miles north of Waterford city. You may have heard of Waterford Crystal, well it is the same place. A number of people have made the same enquiry as you on James and Bridget all residing in the U.S. but I have not been able to make contact with them. They may have moved on. Please do contact me and I will do my best to help you move on your interest in your Irish ancestors.&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2009-04-17 22:05:16Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Almer Irish</title>
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      <description>Almer Irish is my Great-Grandfather. I am looking for the name of his father and mother. </description>
      <pubDate>2009-03-17 00:16:11Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Schuyler IRISH (ca. 1810 - 1879, MN)</title>
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      <description>Was there any connection of the wife of Eugene, s/o Schuyler IRISH, to the first wife of Clark M. IRISH?  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Schuyler IRISH, 49, was on the 1860 census in Dodge Co., MN, with wf. Julia, 46.  Willis &amp;amp; Stella Irish's book, Descendants of John Irish, p. 416, has Schuyler IRISH (13 Aug. 1810 - 4 Feb. 1879, Milton Twp., Dodge Co., MN) m. 26 Aug. 1835, Boston, Erie Co., NY, Juliana HOYT (6 Jan. 1814 - 8 Aug. 188_, Dodge Co., MN). Their eldest daughter Oleann (17 Sep. 1856, Michigan - 16 July 1920, St. Paul, MN) m. 12 Apr. 1857, Dodge Co., Henry E. WARNER. Son Eugene Allen IRISH (6 Je. 1844 - 7 Je. 1908, Mantorville, MN) m. 28 May 1869, Emma STONE, b. 28 Feb. 1845, Parishville, St. Lawrence Co., NY.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1860, Hopkinton P. O., St. Lawrence Co., NY, STONE:&lt;br&gt;John, 53 [44 in 1850, Parishville]; Pilinthy, 46 [Philantha, 37 in 1850]; &lt;br&gt;Emma, 15; Almira, 13 [Elmira, 4 in 1850]; Oscar, 11; Huldah, 7; Amos, 4. &lt;br&gt;RootsWeb shows older children, but the 1850 online database is alphabetized, so households aren't clear. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RootsWeb says Philantha TUPPER (9 July 1812, Parishville, NY - 21 Mar. 1893, Mantorville, MN) was dau/o Silas TUPPER &amp;amp; Polly EASTMAN.  One RootsWeb entry says John STONE, s/o Wm. STONE &amp;amp; Lucretia BLOOMER, was born in New York and another says in Ireland.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Any clues?  </description>
      <pubDate>2008-12-19 15:47:38Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Clark M.  IRISH (ca. 1810, Canada - 1874, MN)</title>
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      <description>FamilySearch IGI says Clark M. IRISH (ca. 1810 - 23 July 1874, Wabasha Co., MN) m(2). Jane P. DREW (ca. 1830 - 7 Je. 1881, MN).  IGI says they were of Plainview, Wabasha, MN, but I found them on censuses in Winona Co., which adjoins Wabasha on the southeast, not far from Plainview.    &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alphabetized database of census, Fulton, Rock Co., WI, 1850, IRISH:&lt;br&gt;Catharine, 17, b. Canada &lt;br&gt;Catharine, 16 {?}; Cecilia, 11; Clark, 12, all b. New York; Clark M., 41, b. Canada; &amp;amp; Louisa, 9, b. WI.  &lt;br&gt;There were also IRISH families in Clinton, Rock Co., WI, but most of the older ones were listed by initials.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ancestry database of the 1870 Census, Winona Co., MN, IRISH&lt;br&gt;Abagail, 67; John H., 54; Mary, 43; Margaret, 8; John H. __.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;C(lark) M., 59; Jane, 40; C. H., 30; Charles, 12; Arvid, 8; Alfred, 6; Marth(a) J(ennie), 1; baby, under one.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FamilySearch database of the 1880 Census, Whitewater, Winona, MN, IRISH&lt;br&gt;Jane, 48, she &amp;amp; parents b. Canada;  children b. MN, parents b. Canada: &lt;br&gt;Arvide, 17; Alfred D., 16; Jennie, 11; Arthur, 9; Billie D., 8&lt;br&gt;Son J. W. BAKER, 28, OH NY CAN&lt;br&gt;Aunt Anna DASSANCE, 66, VT VT VT.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is information for Clark M. IRISH on GenForum &amp;gt; surname IRISH.  </description>
      <pubDate>2008-12-19 02:38:39Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Almer Irish</title>
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      <description>You can Google and find a family group sheet for George McCUMBER &amp;amp; Ida.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1850, Bethel, Branch Co., MI, IRISH, Barney, 38; Francis, 36; &amp;amp; family. [This doesn't list households, but these were the two oldest named Irish.]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1860, Ancestry database shows at Bunker Hill, Grant Co., WI, IRISH:  Barnabas, 41; Polly, 45; Roswell, 21; Adaline, 14; Adelbert, 11; Francis, 7; Almar, 5; Loretta, 3.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FamilySearch.org, 1880 Census, Coon Valley, Sac, IA, IRISH:&lt;br&gt;Barnabas, 67, VT NH NH; wf. Polly, 66, NY NY MA; RUNNELS, Loretta, dau., 23, WI; grandch. Eldridge RUNNELS, 4, &amp;amp; Nellie RUNNELS, 2.&lt;br&gt;IRISH:  Almer, 25, MI NY NY &lt;br&gt;Isabel J., 22, WI ENG ENG&lt;br&gt;Son Roswell O., 3, WI; dau. Roseville, 1, IA.  &lt;br&gt;PENDLETON, Francis {sic}, 13, WI, SisterL; Uncle Samuel PENDLETON, 48, ENG.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Keya Paha, Keya Paha, NE, 1900, IRISH&lt;br&gt;Almer, b. Dec. 1855, MI, married 34 y {sic, 24?}; parents b. VT {sic}&lt;br&gt;Ezibel, b. Je. 1858, WI&lt;br&gt;B. WI:  Ross, Dec. 1876; Myrtle, Feb. 1885; Grace, Apr. 1887&lt;br&gt;B. NE:  Albert, Aug. 1889; Melvin, July 1890; Jessie, Sep. 1893; Pearl, Oct. 1896; Clarance, Sep. 1899.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Basin, Boyd, NE, 1900, McCUMBER, George E., b. Feb. 1874, MO, m. 1 y.&lt;br&gt;Ida, b. Feb. 1881, IA, no ch., parents b. IA {sic} &amp;amp; WI.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;USGenWeb, Grant Co., WI, has a bio. of Stephen B. IRISH, b. 2 Oct. 1795, Rutland, VT, listed as son of Daniel L., who is in the Irish book by Willis L. &amp;amp; Stella B. [PUTNAM] IRISH.  Perhaps this line is from Jesse, Jonathan, John, &amp;amp; John (1), the first four generations of ancestors of Daniel L. in the book.  [The father of Daniel L. is NOT listed here or on RootsWeb Family Trees.] &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have fun!&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-24 15:33:57Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Almer Irish</title>
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      <description>The George McCumber in my line (who married Ida Mae Irish) was born in Carrolton, Missouri on 16 February 1874 and died in Brocksburg, Nebraska on 29 April 1941.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-22 22:21:22Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Almer Irish</title>
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      <description>do you have a birthdate on your george mccumber?and where he was born.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-21 22:49:42Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Betsey</title>
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      <description>I just noticed the dates for Elizabeth.  She was probably the Betsey IRISH who m. 1782, Andrew COBB, per COBB Bible.  Andrew COBB, Sr., s/o Chipman COBB, was b. 27 Mar. 1734 &amp;amp; had son Andrew COBB (7 Feb. 1764 - 22 July 1822) who m. Betsey IRISH.  </description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-10 02:01:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>John IRISH, b. 13 Apr 1724, Falmouth, Cumberland, Me</title>
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      <description>Maine Historical &amp;amp; Geneal. Recorder has some information. It says James IRISH came from Boxfordshire*, England, ca. 1710, &amp;amp; settled at Falmouth/Portland.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;* I don't know where Boxfordshire was.  There are two Boxfords in England, but the nearest spelling for a shire is Bedfordshire.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;James IRISH married Elizabeth _ and had&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;John (13 Apr. 1724, Falmouth/Portland - _), m. Sarah _.&lt;br&gt;Mary, b. 13 Sep. 1725.&lt;br&gt;Joseph, b. 12 Apr. 1728, m. 10 Mar. 1753, Hannah DOW or DOANE.&lt;br&gt;Elizabeth, b. 19 Apr. 1730.&lt;br&gt;Thomas, b. 27 Feb. 1732.&lt;br&gt;James (21 Jan. 1736 - 1 Apr. 1816) m. 1756, Deliverance or Delilah SKILLINGS.&lt;br&gt;Thomas, b. 29 Jan. 1737, m. 6 July 1759, Mary Gorham PHINNEY (Aug. 1736 - 13 May 1825).  Mary was the dau/o John PHINNEY, and she was first white child born in Gorham. [Me H. &amp;amp; Geneal. Recorder 1:130].     &lt;br&gt;____ &lt;br&gt;New Marblehead/Windham:  James IRISH, bpt. 19 Feb. 1744/5, s/o Jas. &amp;amp; Elizth. [I don't know who that was.]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In Capt. Geo. BERRY's Co., Falmouth, May 1746 - Jan. 1747, Centinels {sic} James &amp;amp; Joseph IRISH.  They moved to Gorham ca. 1738. John IRISH, Gorhamtown, was in Capt. Domini JORDAN's Snow Shoe Company, County of York, 1744.  Stephen &amp;amp; Joseph IRISH, both of Gorham, were in Capt. Richard MAYBERRY'S Co., Col. FRANCIS' Rgt., 1776. John IRISH had son-in-law John BUCK, on North Hill, Bucktown, 1783.  Owners of taxable land at Gorham in 1799 included James, Isaac, &amp;amp; Stephen IRISH.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;--all from MEHGR.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-10-10 01:58:08Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Susan Irish m. Gilbert Barns or Barnes, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada</title>
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      <description>It’s been some time since I even thought about Barn(e)s genealogy, but let me see what I know for fact...  The problem with those boys is that there are several Gilbert Barns, and it’s generally difficult to tell how many and who is who.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have looked at the early census records for Haldimand Twp. in Cobourg Library.  Here’s a little of what I found:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Gilbert Barns first shows up in Haldimand Twp. with his own household in 1816, as does Thomas Barns.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Collation of census records for Haldimand Twp. for Gilbert Barns/Barnes:  &lt;br&gt;    1816  himself, 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16   &lt;br&gt;    1817  himself, 1 woman over 16, 0 males under 16, 1 female under 16 &lt;br&gt;    1818  himself, 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16, 1 female under 16    &lt;br&gt;    1819 data too illegible to read clearly (although Gilbert Barnes does appear)&lt;br&gt;    1820 Did not find Gilbert.  Thomas Barnes is there:  1 male and 1 female both over 60.&lt;br&gt;    1821  himself, 1 woman over 16, 2 males under 16  The female under 16 who appeared in the 1816 and 1817 censuses is no longer in the Gilbert Barns household.  Unless she was a teenager in 1816, she would not have been old enough to leave home.  I think that is unlikely because other children under 16 show up subsequently.  Of course it is possible she was not a child of Gilbert and Unknown to begin with.&lt;br&gt;    1822  himself, 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16 &lt;br&gt;    1823   No record of Gilbert, but there are 8 people in Thomas Barns household (6 more than 1822)&lt;br&gt;    1824  himself (Gilbert), 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16, and 1 female under 16&lt;br&gt;    1825  himself, 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16, and 1 female under 16&lt;br&gt;    1826  ???&lt;br&gt;    1827  himself, 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16, and 1 female under 16&lt;br&gt;    1828  himself, 1 woman over 16, 1 male under 16, and 2 females under 16&lt;br&gt;    1829  ???&lt;br&gt;    1830  himself.  NO OTHERS IN HOUSEHOLD.  What happened???&lt;br&gt;    1832  himself, 1 female over 16, 1 male under 16   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1832 is the last time I can find him in Haldimand Twp. data.  &lt;br&gt;--------------------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;However, there is a marriage in 1834 where Gilbert is a bondsman:&lt;br&gt;William Horace Farrar of Colborne, potter to Jane Smith of Sidney, spinster; bondsman: Gilbert Barnes of Coburg, carpenter and Leonard Perrin of Cramahe, blacksmith.  June 26, 1834 at Coburg.&lt;br&gt;- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -&lt;br&gt;BARNES GILBERT .... HAMILTON TOWNSHIP .... A 18 ... 1835 ...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;There is Gilbert Barns who married Lydia Lawson (FamilySearch, so unreliable data):&lt;br&gt;Gilbert Barnes   &lt;br&gt;Birth:     Haldimand,Northumb Co, , , Ontario &lt;br&gt;Marriages: 01 JUN 1830   Murray Twp, Northumberland, Ontario&lt;br&gt;Spouse:  Lydia Lawson   Birth:  30 MAR 1806   Murray, Northumberland, Ontario &lt;br&gt;                     Father: Matthew P Lawson   Mother: Margaret OR Peggy Lawson&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;In Men of Upper Canada- Militia Nominal Rolls 1828 - 1829, &lt;br&gt;by: Bruce Elliot, Dan Walker and Fawne Stratford-Devai; there is this:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1st Reg't Northumberland Militia [Hamilton and Haldimand Townships]&lt;br&gt;1st Company, Capt. John Grover has listed:&lt;br&gt;Pvt. Gilbert Barnes, age 38  (so he’s born about 1790)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;4th Company, Capt. Ozem Strong has listed:&lt;br&gt;Pvt. David Barnes, age 28  (born about 1800)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Muster Roll signed Dec. 15, 1828&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;-------------------------------------------------&lt;br&gt;Letter from Gilbert Barns (2nd) to Edward McMahon, Sept. 15, 1831:  Gilbert has discovered a lead mine containing some silver and wants permission to mine it.  It is in the rear part of the Newcastle District in one of the surveyed but uninhabited and he believes ungranted townships.  Is this where he went after he left Haldimand Twp?  (I probably have a copy of this letter.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1880 census (long after Gilbert is dead), his son Eldridge P. Barnes and his family are living in Michigan (Antrim Co.), and their neighbors are Hubbells who were born in Canada.  Gilbert's daughter-in-law is a Hubbell.  Seth Hubbell, b. 1824 in Canada, says his parents were born in Vermont.  Seth's wife is Almira Kellogg, b. 1835.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Per FamilySearch.com:&lt;br&gt;Seth Hubbell     Compact Disc #102     Pin #279342   &lt;br&gt; Sex: M   &lt;br&gt; Birth:  2 Mar 1825  Place:   Myrtle, , Ontario, Canada  &lt;br&gt; Death:  13 Jul 1888  Place:   Milton Twp., , Michigan  &lt;br&gt;Father:  John Hubbell     Disc #102     Pin #279335  &lt;br&gt;Mother:  Sylvia Hubbell     Disc #102     Pin #279339 &lt;br&gt;Marriage(s): &lt;br&gt; Spouse:  Julia Ann Kellogg     Disc #102     Pin #279395 &lt;br&gt; Marriage:  abt 1846  Place:  , , Ontario, Canada  &lt;br&gt;      Spouse:  Rachel Almira Kellogg     Disc #102     Pin #279400 &lt;br&gt;  Marriage:  abt 1854  Place:  , , Ontario, Canada&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But I don’t trust FamilySearch.com’s accuracy.  You really need to see a primary source, and they are not a primary source.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you confused?  : )  I sure am!   My Barns is John Barns b. about 1822.  He lived all of his adult life in Northumberland County.  There is a John Sr. and a John Jr., but they only show up in one census (1821), so neither one of them is mine, or they stayed under the radar.  Is my John Barns a son of Gilbert Barns b. 1790?? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This whole bunch definitely seem to be related, and it’s my guess that Thomas b. 1860 (who dies in Northumberland Co. about 1842) and John Barns are either brothers, or John is maybe a son or nephew of Thomas.  They are first granted land in Emily Twp. but sell it and move to Haldimand Twp.   Land Grant:  BARNES JOHN ... EMILY ... 1821    Thomas gets a grant too.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My interest in Susan Irish is simply a hope that she might shed some light on the relationship between these various Barns in Northumberland Co., Ontario.  As a descendant of John Barns b. 1821, I would like to figure out who his parents were. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I hope that some of this information is of help to you.  Do tell me about Susan Irish and who her three husbands were!&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-09-10 20:57:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Susan Irish m. Gilbert Barns or Barnes, Northumberland, Ontario, Canada</title>
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      <description>I do believe we`re looking for the same family...Susan Irish married 3 times, and emigrated to Michigan. If you would like more details, I would be happy to share them through e-mail. (I`m still working out exact details myself, but I have another researcher`s help at the moment.)</description>
      <pubDate>2008-09-10 19:13:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Buell/ Irish/ Pickens/Fitch</title>
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      <description>That the Pickens family raises Kermit Chandler from birth and the Fitch family raises Cecil Chandler. Letia i know did marry Frank Chandler who was living with the Pickens. Frank Chandler's parents were Forrester Chandler and Mary Pennington. Not sure what happened to Frank Chandler but Letia (spelling varies) remarried and becomes a Roberts. </description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-29 14:13:34Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Buell/ Irish/ Pickens/Fitch</title>
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      <description>Here are a few more details, mostly from census databases.  Otsego Co., NY, census has two men named Oliver BUEL(L) in 1820 &amp;amp; 1830, &amp;amp; Oliver BEWELL in 1840.  That must have been Oliver BUELL (18 Je. 1792 - 22 Aug. 1855) per FamilySearch.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ancestry database of the 1850 census of Middlefield, Otsego County, has first names alphabetized, so you cannot identify households, but it does have the names BUELL, Oliv(i)er, 58; Elisabeth, 49; Ira, 27; Amanda, 20; &amp;amp; Menso (Amasa?), 12.  &lt;br&gt;Middlefield, Otsego, NY, 1860 Census, BUELL:&lt;br&gt;Elizabeth, 48; Ira, 38; Amasa, 22; Amanda, 35; Emma J., 1.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1870:  BUEL, Ira H., 46; Manda, 40; Emma, 11; Helen, 5; Elizabeth, 60.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;FamilySearch database of the 1880 Census, Middlefield, Otsego, NY, BUELL:&lt;br&gt;Amanda, 56, NY NY NY, wid.&lt;br&gt;dau. Helen, 15; NY NY NY&lt;br&gt;son-in-law John PICKENS, 22, NY NY ENG&lt;br&gt;dau. Emma, 20, NY NY NY&lt;br&gt;Other, Michael KING, 18, Ireland, farm laborer.&lt;br&gt;Next-door, FITCH: C. Melinda, 58; sons C. Willie, 20, &amp;amp; B. Charles, 18, all births NY.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Middlefield, Otsego, NY, 1900, &lt;br&gt;FITCH:  Willie C., b. Aug. 1859; Hellen D., b. Nov. 1864; Lula, b. Aug. 1882, all b. NY. &lt;br&gt;PICKENS, John, b. Sep. 1852, NY; Emma G., b. Mar. 1859, NY; mother-in-law Armand {Amanda?}; servant Frank CHANDLER, b. Mar. 1878, NJ.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Otsego Co., NY, 1910:  &lt;br&gt;FITCH, Willie C., 50, Helen D., 45; Peter CHANDLER, 27, &amp;amp; Paul F. CHANDLER, 2.&lt;br&gt;PICKENS, John, 52; Emma, 52; Kennet CLENDLER {CHANDLER?}, 4.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;RootsWeb:  Amanda IRISH (26 July 1822, NY - 20 Je. 1909, dau/o George IRISH) m. 185_, NY, Ira BUELL.  Dau. Emma, b. Mar. 1859, m. John PICKENS (22 Sep. 1852/7 - ca. 1920).  The IRISH line is taken back to Little Compton, RI, but I don't know of any proof for the maiden name of John IRISH's wife Elizabeth, possibly THURSTON. Both RISLEY &amp;amp; SAVORY have been suggested and discarded as Elizabeth's maiden name.  Helen &amp;amp; Emma BUELL are in the book Descendants of John IRISH, Immigrant, 1629 - 1693, &amp;amp; Allied Families, by Willis Luther IRISH &amp;amp; Stella B. [PUTNAM] IRISH, 1964, Dingley Press, Freeport, ME.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Could you clarify what you mean by "they both get babies bearing the Chandler name"?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-26 23:48:30Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Buell/ Irish/ Pickens/Fitch</title>
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      <description>Looking for info on Helen and Emma Buell, they were the children of Amanda Irish Buell (1822 New York). Emma married John Pickens and i think her sister married Will or Willie Fitch. I'm trying to piece my family together. My mother died when i was a small child. Several names in the mix. I can see in the census that Helen FItch and Emma Pickens live close, that what makes me believe they are sister's. Than they both get babies bearing the Chandler name.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-13 19:29:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Ruby?</title>
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      <description>I guess Ruby, b. ca. 1894, on the 1920 Census does fit, but we need to find the correct birth date.  We had her birth as 1899.    </description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-01 21:49:49Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Ancestry Census Databases</title>
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      <description>A search of the census databases for Chautauqua Co., NY, shows why is is difficult to find some individuals.  In 1920: &lt;br&gt;IRISH, Henry, 27; &amp;amp; Luara {sic, Laura}, 24, with Manard {sic, Maynard}, 4.&lt;br&gt;IRISH, Zena, 60; Lennie {Linnie}, 46; Ruby {Ruth?}, 26; Harry, 23; &amp;amp; Agnes, 18. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;1930, IRISH:&lt;br&gt;Zena, 73; Linnie, 57&lt;br&gt;Harry S., 31; Rosebtha {Roselta}, 26; Pearl, 9; Elton L., 2&lt;br&gt;Ray L., 42; Edna S., 40; Willis, 16 &lt;br&gt;Henry E., 37; Laura E., 34; Maynard E., 14; &amp;amp; Arlene E., 4.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Never give up!</description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-01 21:36:20Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Linda NEWTON, 8 in 1880</title>
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      <description>I believe that I've found the NEWTON side on censuses.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1870, Chautauqua Co., NY:  &lt;br&gt;NEWTON, Daniel, 32; Minerva, 35; Daniel, 10; George, 5; Henry, 3; &amp;amp; John, under 1.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1880, Irving, Cauutauqua, NY, &lt;br&gt;McGRADY, Patrick, 45, blacksmith, he &amp;amp; parents b. Ireland.&lt;br&gt;McGRADY, Mineva {sic}, 44, she &amp;amp; parents b. VT.&lt;br&gt;Stepchildren b. NY: NEWTON, Daniel, 19; George, 15; Johnie, 11; &amp;amp; Linda, 8.&lt;br&gt;Son James McGRADY, 2, NY.&lt;br&gt;[Since Linda NEWTON was 8 and James McGRADY was 2, the death of Daniel NEWTON must have been ca. 1872 - 1876.]  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In 1850, there was a Daniel, 13, of Hanover, Chautauqua, NY, but on RootsWeb Family Trees, it says that his father was Charles, and the only Charles there was 15. His grandfather was supposedly Philo, but the only Philo was 12.  Perhaps microfilm of the actual census would shed more light on the subject.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;USGenWeb has in Maple Grove Cemetery (among others named NEWTON), &lt;br&gt;Philo NEWTON (21 June 1838 - 25 Aug. 1872)&lt;br&gt;Albert NEWTON, d. Aug. 1864, aged 17 mos., s/o D. A. &amp;amp; Minerva&lt;br&gt;[That explains the four to five year difference in ages of Daniel &amp;amp; George]. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Index of the 1830 Census, Hanover, Chautauqua, NY, NEWTON, Heman &amp;amp; Samuel, 381; Philo, 382; Lyman, 387.   There's more on RootsWeb Family Trees but little documentation.   </description>
      <pubDate>2008-08-01 21:03:44Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Ruluf and/or Zena Irish</title>
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      <description>I don't know if you remember helping me before or not. I was justing looking through some hints and see that you posted and obit for Henry Irish ( My great-grandfather) and was wondering if you knew anything more about his second daughter (Mrs. Gene Coan) mentioned in the obit? Also, I recently contacted Henry's son (Conrad), while we were talked he mentioned knowing your mother Ruth which he called Ruthie.</description>
      <pubDate>2008-06-15 23:05:54Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Joseph &amp;amp; Hannah Irish of N. H. &amp;amp; ME.</title>
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      <description>This is years late for your messgae, but I may be able to help. My great great grandfather is Nehemiah Leavitt, and I have a photograph of William Irish at over 100 years old (!) here. What I will give you is the info my mother scribbled down long ago--whether the dates are births or marriages I haven't researched yet. She wrote:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;James Irish, b. England&lt;br&gt;Wm. Irish 1741&lt;br&gt;Mary McAllister&lt;br&gt;______&lt;br&gt;Thomas Irish May 17, 1766&lt;br&gt;Eliz. Roberts b. 1769&lt;br&gt;_____________&lt;br&gt;Wm. Irish June 25, 1805&lt;br&gt;Lucilva (unsure of spelling?) Leavitt&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;____________&lt;br&gt;Wm. Irish 1741&lt;br&gt;Mary McAllister&lt;br&gt;________________&lt;br&gt;Phoebe Irish&lt;br&gt;Jonathan Record, Jr. 1782&lt;br&gt;___________&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Margery Record 1809&lt;br&gt;Nehemiah Leavitt&lt;br&gt;_________________&lt;br&gt;Joseph S. irish 1832&lt;br&gt;Hannah G. Leavitt&lt;br&gt;_____________&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's it on the scribblings of my mother. Nehemiah Leavitt's son John Greenleaf Leavitt married my great grandmother Susan Chapman Blazo, they had Robert Greenleaf Leavitt, who had my mother Constance Ruggli Leavitt Hanson, who had me--Mary Freeman (I've been through a lot of name changes and finally took my original first and middle name "Mary Freeman", which happens to be my great grandmother Susan leavitt's mother's maiden name, Mary  Freeman (Blazo).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Hope this helps!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://mimifreeman@gmail.com"&gt;mimifreeman@gmail.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-05-20 13:07:31Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Cora Irish of Hyde Park, Vt. married Arthur James Pixley</title>
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      <description>Our family descends from Cora Irish b. c1865 Lamoille, Hyde Park Twnshp., Vt. m. Arthur James (James Arthur) Pixley c1880 in Lamoille. Their son was my grandfather, but they may have also had: Stella &amp;amp; Anna?&lt;br&gt;My grandfather was adopted his Arthur James' father James M. Pixley in Chippewa Falls, Wi. &lt;br&gt;I had understood that Arthur &amp;amp; Cora had been divorced...but have more recently discovered that they may have both died c1890.&lt;br&gt;My grandfather had a dtr. Stella-who died young. Was she named after his 'sister'?&lt;br&gt;This line has been a real problem...nothing but 'dead-ends'&lt;br&gt;Do any of these names 'ring a bell' with anyone?&lt;br&gt;Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.&lt;br&gt;For more on these lines you can check out my website:&lt;br&gt;pixleyblair.tribalpages.com&lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;Email: &lt;a href="mailto://troypix@webtv.net"&gt;troypix@webtv.net&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2008-03-25 23:07:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>James Irish </title>
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      <description>Looking for James Irish married Bridget Ryan (born 1847 Rathmore Ireland) went to Wales, lived in Brynmawr Wales around 1878 and Cumberland Workington England in 1880. Came through Ellis Island 1910. Lived in Rome, NY</description>
      <pubDate>2008-02-24 20:17:43Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Irene May Irish Obituary</title>
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      <description>Mountain Democrat&lt;br&gt;Placerville, El Dorado, CA&lt;br&gt;Saturday 18 Mar 1948&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Georgetown Lady Answers Call&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Widow of Frank H. Irish&lt;br&gt;Was Veteran Rebekah And Charter Member of N. D. G. W.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Services were held Wednesday, at the Methodist Church at Georgetown for Mrs. Irene May Irish, 79, widow of Frank H. Irish and a native of Georgetown, who passed away Monday in Placerville.&lt;br&gt;Services were conducted by George A. French, lay minister. Interment was at Georgetown Cemetery.&lt;br&gt;Mrs. Irish was a charter member of Georgetown parlo of the Native Daughters of the Golden West and had been a member for fifty years in the Georgetown Rebekah lodge.&lt;br&gt;A native of Georgetown, Mrs. Irish was the daughter of the late William and Elizabeth Hotchkiss who were pioneers of 1852 and lived all her life in the home in which she was born.&lt;br&gt;She was married to Mr. Irish in 1887 and he passed on two years ago.&lt;br&gt;Mrs. Irish was the mother of C. H. Irish of Oakland, Mrs. Julia Williams of Redding and Harold Irish of Wilton.</description>
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      <title>Re: Nathl. Irish</title>
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      <description>"Western Pa Genealogical Society Quarterly, fall 1988, vol. 15 #2&lt;br&gt;pg. 49 "Pitt Township, Alleheny County Pa&lt;br&gt;Duplicate Tax Lists 1795, 1796, 1797 &amp;amp; 1798...&lt;br&gt;pg. 58 "...Return Of Property For Pitt Township 1796...&lt;br&gt;Money amount is designated in pounds, shillings &amp;amp; pence i.e. 700-0-0....&lt;br&gt;pg. 50 ...Irish, Nathaniel 200 acres 75-0-0&lt;br&gt;pg. 59 "...Irish, Nathl. 180 acres..."&lt;br&gt;not my fam-think Pittsburgh Pa for location&lt;br&gt;</description>
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      <title>JOHN IRISH (b. 13 Apr 1724, Falmouth, Cumberland, Me</title>
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      <description>I have more info on decendents, but this is all I know of John Irish&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Children of John Irish and Sarah unknown are: &lt;br&gt;+Abigail Irish, b. 24 Dec 1746, Gorham, Cumberland, Maine, d. 20 Jul 1824, New Gloucester, Essex, Ma.&lt;br&gt;Unk Irish, b. 1749, Falmouth, Cumberland, Me&lt;br&gt;James Irish, b. 18 Feb 1755, Gorham, Cumberland, Maine, d. date unkn.&lt;br&gt;Molly Irish, b. 15 Jun 1753, Gorham, Cumberland, Maine, d. date unknown.&lt;br&gt;Sarah Irish, b. 08 Jul 1757, Gorham, Cumberland, Maine, d. date unknown.&lt;br&gt;Elizabeth Irish, b. 11 Jul 1760, Gorham, Cumberland, Maine, d. date unknown.&lt;br&gt;John Irish, b. 12 Aug 1751, Gorham, Cumberland, Maine, d. date unknown&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More About Abigail Irish and John Buck:&lt;br&gt;Marriage: Abt. 1776, New Gloucester, Essex, Ma.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Children of Abigail Irish and John Buck are: &lt;br&gt;+Mary (Polly) Buck, b. 12 Feb 1789, Buckfield, Me, d. 06 Oct 1865, Buckfield, Me.&lt;br&gt;Ester Buck, b. 25 Oct 1782, Buckfield, Oxford, Me, d. date unknown.&lt;br&gt;Abigail Buck, b. 05 Feb 1779, Buckfield, Me, d. date unknown.&lt;br&gt;Sarah Buck, b. 12 Aug 1777, Buckfield, Me, d. 1850.&lt;br&gt;Simeon Buck, b. 16 Nov 1780, Buckfield, Me, d. 15 Aug 1859, Hamlin's Gore, Oxford, Maine.&lt;br&gt;Elizabeth Buck, b. 20 Nov 1784, Buckfield, Me, d. date unknown.&lt;br&gt;Phebe Buck, b. 03 Dec 1792, Buckfield, Me, d. date unknown.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-08-06 00:24:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Benjamin IRISH</title>
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      <description>Benjamin IRISH (1774 [?] - 18 Sep. 1848, Shelburne, Chittenden, VT) m. 1791, Naomi PALMER, b. 22 Oct. 1775, MA.  Children b. Hinesburg, VT:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Joab (4 May 1792 - 25 May 1854, li. Davenport, IA) m. 10 Jan. 1813, Rowena Lucy JUDSON (2 Sep. 1795 - 2 Feb. 1870) d/o Lucy DOOLITTLE &amp;amp; Maj. Leman JUDSON.&lt;br&gt;David, b. 25 Feb. 1794.&lt;br&gt;Ezekiel (16 Jan. 1796 - 4 Dec. 1849, bu. Morse Cem.) m. 14 Jan. 1819, Hannah COLEMAN (8 Nov. 1798, Hinesburg - 6 Mar. 1876).&lt;br&gt;Enoch (5 Nov. 1798 - 15 Oct. 1856) m. Lucia MILLS.&lt;br&gt;Elias, b. 25 Nov. 1799, li. Milton, VT, died "in the West," m. 23 May 1820, Alma JUDSON, sis/o Rowena.&lt;br&gt;Benjamin, b. 8 July 1801, m. Danby, VT, Phoebe BALDRIDGE (1799 - 16 Jan. 1858, bu. Kingsbury St. Cem., Washington Co., NY). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;That's all from the book by Stella B. &amp;amp; Willis L. IRISH.  I Googled and didn't find anything of importance except that others have different birth years for Benjamin, ca. 1761 - 1771, instead of 1774, which would seem logical. Parents David &amp;amp; Ann m. 1759, and only the first child had a specific date of birth listed.  Benjamin was probably at least twenty at marriage in 1794. &lt;br&gt;_______&lt;br&gt;Do you mean this Zadock/Zodack, s/o Abel?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Abel IRISH (23 Sep. 1753, Dutchess Co., NY - ca. 1800, of Jesse, Jonathan, John, John) m. ca. 1775, Ruth, who d. bef. 14 May 1838.  Children, most b. Leicester, Addison Co., VT:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Zadock (ca. 1775 - by 1810) m1. ca. 1796, Abigail BALLARD, m2. ca. 1799, Thankful COOMBS.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Wm., m. Thankful _ &amp;amp; res. Starksboro, VT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Job (9 Feb. 1784, Wallingford, VT - 31 Aug. 1865, Starksboro) m. Sarah "Sally" SALES (4 Apr. 1788 - 26 Feb. 1867), d/o Martha &amp;amp; Ezekiel SALES of RI.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Zilla (or Lillah?) (1787 - 1873) m. 27 May 1812, Jacob BURNAP, moved to Moira, Franklin Co., NY.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enoch, b. 1790, served in War of 1812, m. Nancy PERKINS &amp;amp; moved to Dickinson, Franklin Co., NY by 1840; West Bend, Washington Co., WI, by 1850; &amp;amp; Brown T., Linn Co., IA, by 1860. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jonas C. (Sep.1793 - 26 Apr. 1869, Knox Co., TN) went in 1809 to Freedom, Cattaraugus Co., NY, m. 11 July 1913, Sally SAWYER (1797 - 16 Jan. 1866), d/o Stephen of Leicester, VT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Abel (28 Mar. 1795, Danby, VT - 26 Je. 1873, Mason, Ingham Co., MI; bu. DuBois Cem., Alaiedon Twp., Ingham, MI) m. 15 Je. 1815, Whiting, VT, Sally McNEILL (15 Aug. 1796 - 20 Apr. 1874, MI) d/o Eliz. SABIN &amp;amp; Thos. McNEILL.  Abel served 7 Sep. to 12 Dec. 1812 in War of 1812; settled near Akron, OH; in 1868 moved to Ingham Co., MI. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jesse (1797 - 1857, Dickinson, NY; will pr. 6 July 1857, Franklin Co., NY) m. Clarissa D. FLINT (1804 - 18 Mar. 1875).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Mary, b. ? m. 16 Oct. 1817, Robt. M. DOW, of Brandon, VT.   &lt;br&gt;___________&lt;br&gt;Zadock IRISH &amp;amp; Abigail divorced and both remarried. She m2. _ HARRINGTON and moved to Wayne Co., NY, and ca. 1837 to Hillsdale Co., MI, per records of Mrs. Ethel WISNER of North Adams, MI.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Zadock &amp;amp; Abigail had John (8 Aug. 1796/7, Leicester, Addison Co., VT - 11 Dec. 1869, Wheatland, Hillsdale Co., MI) m. Hannah MOSHER (1793, NY - 21 Feb. 1860, Wheatland).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Zadock also had &lt;br&gt;Rispey (1800 - 21 May 1847) m. 23 July 1823, Dr. thos. SPOONER, b. 27 Je. 1799&lt;br&gt;Rhodolphus (180_ - 18 July 1857, Leicester, VT). &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Please post your information on Zadock.   &lt;br&gt; </description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-18 16:11:35Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Vermont</title>
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      <description>Did Enoch have any siblings? My line goes through Zadock Irish, and the time line fits pretty closely.&lt;br&gt;Debbie</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-17 19:34:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Thanks!</title>
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      <description>Thanks for the reply.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-12 13:39:06Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: It's all relative. </title>
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      <description>I have ancestry free until sept 2007  I bought the del. version- I find that it is cheaper to buy new software- 80 or 120 and get it free for the next  7months or a year-&lt;br&gt;depending on which version- then to pay the yearly cost.&lt;br&gt;:)- it used to be buy deluxe and get a year now its 7 or 8 months.:)</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-11 21:58:03Z</pubDate>
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      <title>It's all relative. </title>
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      <description>Did you copy the 1860 census records for both families while they are available free on Ancestry?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Oh, well, we're all a little crazy.  The others in the family think we are--to spend all this time on genealogy.  We went to my husband's aunt's place and asked her to identify some of the people in photos.  She said, "What does it matter?  They're all dead."  </description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-11 17:00:45Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Luther, from Half Moon, Saratoga, NY</title>
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      <description>She was crazy and so was Lewis Erickson, atleast that was the family story.  LOL  perhaps that is why my 2 older Aunts were a little crazy.  My mother and her brother often would say atleast they weren't crazy and either were their children - HA.  And to top it all off- one of the kids of my crazy aunts has all of the pictures so it is a little difficult for me to get them to see if there is any pictures of Lewis Erickson, his wedding or Georgia's parents or Lewis's parents.  I just hope they haven't tossed them out. &lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-11 14:51:47Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Luther, from Half Moon, Saratoga, NY</title>
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      <description>Ancestry has free access for three days.  In 1860, Montraville &amp;amp; his son Luther were together, and Abner and another Luther, 22, were together.  You could check whether Abner left a will.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Have you ordered Luther's Civil War PENSION record (different from the military record)?  I checked online and found only Luther C. IRISH, widow Theresa.  It's hard to read.  He served in B 77 NY Inf, [B and? 77 NY Inf.?] He received a pension [illegible, but probably #942,081], cert. 724,488, WI; Widow's pension, 6 May 1897, #653,661, cert. 718,033, WI.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If Georgia had four husbands, she must have been more than a little crazy.  :-)  </description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-11 14:01:39Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Half Moon, Saratoga, NY</title>
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      <description>This is what I have, confirmed for Luther and family-&lt;br&gt;Luther Clark and his wife Theresa Alma Clark Irish are my &lt;br&gt;great great grandparents.  If you look in ancestry I have posted on the web site a picture of Luther's headstone-&lt;br&gt;I also have a picture of Georgia Louise on the web site.&lt;br&gt;I have not been able to confirm who his parents were- his death certificate does not list it nor does the obit that was in the local paper.  The 1860 census shows Luther Clark with an Abner S. Irish and Hannah but he is not with them on the 1850 census- so what their relationship is one can only guess.  I had the opportunity to vist the Irish web site and found him their and they had Montraville Irish and mother as Louisa Platt.  Georgia Irish is buried by the Erickson family grave site here in Rockford Illinois.  Family lore is that she was a little crazy she had atleast 4 husbands.  She  divorced her husband Lewis and is buried by her last husband one Herbert Ford.  Georgia L Irish Erickson is my great grandmother on my mothers side.  I have been trying to find more pictures of Georgia and I hope Luther but the family member that I believe have is being difficult.  I will keep on trying.  It would be great if Georgia looked like the Irish- then perhaps via looks we can even speculate more- HA.  I found some info on Luther's civil war record on ancestry but not alot.  after he died Theresa remarried but chosed to be buried in the Irish family plot.  Someone but I have no idea placed a newer larger family headstone on the grave site and I am in the process of trying to find the grave stone maker and to see if they have any record.  I hope this pans out.  the other info I got off of roots but how relable this is I do not know.  I haven't had the opportunity to search the 1850's census with Montraville listed to see if Luther Clark is with them or not-he would have been 11 at the time and perhaps this would then lead one to believe that Montraville is indeed his father and the Abner S. Irish would be a relative of some sort- but who knows- if you have any other ideas please share.  Thanks for all of the info that you have provided so far it has opened up some more can of worms that perhaps can provide some answers.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Shelly</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-11 01:26:56Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Half Moon, Saratoga, NY</title>
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      <description>You could see whether reprints of the IRISH book are available from Higginson Book Co., 148-GH Washington St., Salem, MA  01970 &amp;lt; &lt;a href="mailto://higginsn@cove.com"&gt;higginsn@cove.com&lt;/a&gt; &amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have not verified that the following are your family, but these are online on FamilySearch database of the 1880 Census:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Ward 4, Beloit, Rock, WI, IRISH, Luther C., 43, NY NY NY; wf. Theresa, 37, NY CT CT&lt;br&gt;Ch. b. NY:  Alma C., 16; Emma, 14&lt;br&gt;Ch. b. WI:  Georgia L., 11; Albert C., 5; Cora, 1. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also of Beloit, IRISH, Mary E., wid., 46, NY NY NY; &amp;amp; ch. b. Wi:  Charles E., 25; James, 23; &amp;amp; Richard, 13.  Other, Robt. CARTER, 54, NY ME VT.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;IRISH, Margaret, 24, NY, servant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Florida, Montgomery, NY, IRISH: Reuben, 60; wf. Maria H., 56; son Franklin J., 16; granddau. Mary A. WOODWORTH, 1; &amp;amp; "other {sic, must be dau.}" Sarah I. WOODWORTH, 22; all b. NY. [Reuben, b. 1819?]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;St. Johns, Clinton, MI, IRISH:  Phillip C., 54, blacksmith; wf. Eliz., 50; dau. Ella, 19; all b. NY.&lt;br&gt;Nearby:  IRISH, Louie, 26, NY NY NY, blacksmith; wf. Della, 19, MI; son Louie, 1, MI.  [Philip, b. 1821?]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Milton, Saratoga, NY, IRISH, Chauncey B., 44, NY NY NY; wf. Mary C., 45, Canada; niece Minnie HODSOLL, 17, Canada. &lt;br&gt;[Chauncey, b. 1834?]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Halfmoon, Saratoga, NY: Wm. H. IRISH, 37, NY NY NY, carriage ironer; wf. Anna, 34, NY IRE NY; son Wm., 16; Other Charles WAGER, 22, NY (must be s/o Philip, per cem. record).  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;A Google search shows that the town of Clifton Park voted to add the Abner Irish house,178 Vischer Ferry Road, to the register of historic places.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Social Security Death Index has these Social Security Numbers issued in Wisconsin, last residence in Grant County:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lancaster&lt;br&gt;Carl (24 Je. 1891 - July 1970)&lt;br&gt;Emma (2 Aug. 1894 - May 1974)&lt;br&gt;Beryl (24 Sep. 1898 - Sep. 1972)&lt;br&gt;Genevieve (22 Dec. 1901 - Jan. 1979)&lt;br&gt;Vera (2 Mar. 1902 - July 1975)&lt;br&gt;Bessie E. (24 Sep. 1906 - 22 Mar. 2000)&lt;br&gt;Basil (15 Je. 1910 - Nov. 1986)&lt;br&gt;Donald (10 May 1911 - Mar. 1983)&lt;br&gt;Lucille M. (13 July 1913 - 31 Oct. 1997)&lt;br&gt;Cletus (3 Je. 1914 - Aug. 1983)&lt;br&gt;Maleta (28 Apr. 1915 - 27 Sep. 2005)&lt;br&gt;Leta (11 May 1921 - Nov. 1983)&lt;br&gt;Irene V. (22 Apr. 1925 - 3 Je. 2003)&lt;br&gt;Alvin L. (23 Apr. 1926 - 12 July 2002).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Potosi&lt;br&gt;Victor (30 Sep. 1907 - Apr. 1983)&lt;br&gt;Marie J. (6 Mar. 1911 - 20 Jan. 2007)&lt;br&gt;Richard A. (1 July 1925 - 18 Sep. 2000)&lt;br&gt;Rosemary (14 Dec. 1962 - Jan. 1987)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Platteville:  Ted (20 Mar. 1908 - Nov. 1977)&lt;br&gt;Edith M. (12 Feb. 1910 - Aug. 1989)&lt;br&gt;Merlyn (1 Feb. 1929- Sep. 1986).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Bagley:  David L. (21 Sep. 1946 - 13 Apr. 2003)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Boscobel:  Lucretia (31 Jan. 1898 - Apr. 1985)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;These were the only ones in Rock Co., WI&lt;br&gt;Clinton:  Otis (13 Je. 1889 - Dec. 1975)&lt;br&gt;Edgerton:  Daisy (1 Je. 1898 - Apr. 1978).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;[You should be able to find obituaries for some of these.  Also, if you know a few more details, you might find others.]&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What information do you have on the families of Luther C. &amp;amp; dau. Georgia?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-10 23:07:54Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Half Moon, Saratoga, NY</title>
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      <description>Take a look in Ancestry= I have pictures of Luther's and Theresas headstones.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-10 05:20:31Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Half Moon, Saratoga, NY</title>
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      <description>Thanks soo much for the info- this line is giving me some&lt;br&gt;trouble- I am from the line of Luther Clark Irish who married Theresa Clark- both are buried by my home in Beloit Wisconsin- their daughter, Georgia Louise Irish mar Lewis Erickson , these are my great grand parents.  The info that you provided has shed some light.  Any other info or where I may find out some more would be great- &lt;br&gt;Thanks&lt;br&gt;Shelly</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-10 05:19:31Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Book, Descendants of John Irish, by Stella B. &amp;amp; Willis Luther IRISH, p. 270:  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Benjamin IRISH (by 1774 - 18 Sep. 1848, Shelburne, VT; of David, Jesse, Jonathan, John, John) m. 1791, Naomi PALMER, b. 22 Oct. 1775, MA, and had in Hinesburg, VT:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enoch (5 Nov. 1798, Hinesburg, VT - 15 Oct. 1856) m. Lucia MILLS (28 Je. 1806, Shelburne, VT - 6 Dec. 1882), dau/o Eunice KOLMSTOCK &amp;amp; Samuel MILLS.  &lt;br&gt;Lucia m2. 12 Feb. 1862, Shelburne, Lucius B. SAWYER. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Enoch IRISH &amp;amp; Lucia had&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Nancy Eliz. (27 Sep. 1825 - 1 Jan. 1862) m. 28 Je. 1843, Geo. Wilbur HARTSHORN.&lt;br&gt;Homer (9 Je. 1827 - 28 Mar. 1908) m. 1 Jan. 1852, Lucy Patience PIERCE (15 Sep. 1830, Hinesburg - 10 Jan. 1898), dau/o Mahala CONGER &amp;amp; Chauncey PIERCE.&lt;br&gt;Stanton Andrew (19 Aug. 1831 - 3 Mar. 1881) m. Nettie St. CLAIR.&lt;br&gt;Alonzo S., aka Samuel A. (2 Dec. 1833 - 26 Dec. 1887, Shelburne) m. 24 Aug. 1858, Ellen Marie STEELE (1833 - 2 Sep. 1870) d/o Charlotte HICKS &amp;amp; Josiah STEELE.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Alonzo had in Shelburne&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chester S. (29 Je. 1859 - 11 May 1928) m. Anna Tressa OCKERT, d/o Robert of Shelburne.&lt;br&gt;Alice Annie (16 Sep. 1860 - 14 Feb. 1889, Hinesburg, VT, m. Sep. 1884, Clarence W. GREEN.  &lt;br&gt;Geo. Stanton (11 Mar. 186 - 11 Feb. 1931, S. Burlington, VT; bu. Village Cem., Shelburne) m. 27 Oct. 1885, Mattie E. FISH, b. 17 May 1867, S. Burlington.  Mattie m2. Bert A. LONGLEY.  &lt;br&gt;Nellie M. Van (19 Aug.1868 - 20 Apr. 1914, unm., bu. Shelburne.&lt;br&gt;_____&lt;br&gt;References: Family Bible of Geo. P. Irish, Plattsburg, NY, 1955.&lt;br&gt;Letter from Alonzo S. Irish of Shelburne, 4 July 1887, to Rev. Wm. N. Irish of Amsterdam, NY.&lt;br&gt;Biographies of State of VT, Vol. 1, p. 557.&lt;br&gt;Montpelier, VT, {VR}. &lt;br&gt;Notes of Mrs. Cornelia M. Wheeler Irish, Shelburne; Mrs. Jeanne L. Orchard, Salt Lake City, UT; Mrs. Nellie Glidden Irish (Wadsworth) Landon, furnished by Ruth Landon Larrow of Middlebury &amp;amp; Lucy L. Wells of S. Hero, VT.  &lt;br&gt;____&lt;br&gt;FamilySearch database of the 1880 Census, Shelburne, Chittenden, VT, IRISH:  Alonzo S., 47; sister-in-law Lucy A. SHEETS {sic, STEELE}, single, 53; ch. Alice A., 19; Chester S., 20; George S., 18; Millie M., 11. / You can find others on this database.</description>
      <pubDate>2007-06-10 00:24:13Z</pubDate>
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