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Re: Minnesota Kimptons - ancestry found

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-24 22:46:50Z

Further pushing back this Kimpton lineage, we look for the parents of Henry:

John and Sarah Kimpton.

There is a John Kimpton and Sarah Coxe m 29 Nov 1794, Walkern, HERT, who are later shown to have children only in Walkern as Polly 1797, William 1799, Thomas 1802, Mary 1804, (twins) Esau and Jacob 1807, Eliza 1809, Louisa 1811, ... and whether there are other children. This is not the parents of Henry Kimpton.

The other (only) marriage is:
John Kimpton and Sarah Hitchinson/Kitchinson 9/11 Feb 1783 St Mary at Hill, London. These are the only other John and Sarah that have children in the same St Leonard, Shoreditch, MIDS parish. Benjamin 1786, Mary Ann 1788 (dies early), Henry 1798, Mary Ann 1802 ... and whether there are other children.

Finding the birth of this John Kimpton or Kempton is somewhat difficult. Marrying at age 21, would make him born <1762. This then gives 7 John Ke and 1 John Ki.

John, son of John/Margaret Ke 19 JUL 1743 St Sepulchre, Holborn, London
John, son of John Ke 1751 St Giles Cripplegate, London (dies early)
John, son of John Ke 16 APR 1758 St Giles ...
John, son of John Ke 25 DEC 1760 St Mary, Stratford Bow,
MIDS

There are 3 other Johns of other Kes but they are from other shires.

There is John, son of Edward KI 9 May 1745 Hertford, HERT

The 1745s seem highly unlikely of marrying again and producing children age 53?!

This then gives:

John Kempton, son of John and ? Kempton 16 APR 1758 St Giles
John Kempton, son of John and ? Kempton 25 DEC 1760 St Mary

For reasons of sameness, it would seem that the John, son of John of St Mary, Middlesex would be the lineage. St Leonard, Shoreditch is also Middlesex.

So the MN Kimptons have the lineage back from John J 3 - Thomas 2 - Henry 1 - John - John (1760). This father John b ~1730s remains to be searched and his spouse's name.

Re: Minnesota Kimptons - ancestry found

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-24 20:51:26Z

James Covel should be attaching the Sedgwick genealogical pages that were found with further information and branches of these MN families.

Minnesota Kimptons - ancestry found

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-24 20:50:20Z

In association with James Covel in the genealogy.com and ancestry.com postings, we have found a major chunk of Kimpton lineage and movements.

The Minnesota dynastic lineages of George (b ~1833 NY) and John J Kimpton (b~1835 NY), are the sons of Thomas Kimpton and Clarissa Elizabeth Nash.

Thomas Kimpton died 1861 Waterford, Racine Co, WI.
Clarissa Nash-Kimpton died in Blue Earth Co, MN.

We have validated that Thomas (b 1805/6) born in (most likely) CT (but later stated as NY).

Thomas is definitely the son of Henry Kimpton and what is suspected as the son of a (2) marriage.

Henry Kimpton bapt 10 DEC 1798, son of John and Sarah Kimpton, St Leonard, Shoreditch, MIDS, ENG.

Henry Kimpton,marriage banns Susannah Nott 27 APR 1823 Islington, St Mary, Islington borough. There is no UK or US marriage record. The suggestion of eloping can not be denied.

Susannah Nott, dau of William and Sarah Nott, b 19 SEP 1802 St Marylebone, MIDS, ENG

There are no (as yet) passenger, shipping, immigrant, citizenship, or naturalization documents for Henry and Susannah coming to the US, but they did immigrate in the early 1823 period.

In CT Death and Burials Index there are 2 mysterious mentions:

Mrs Kempton, age 21, d CT FHL film 3153 no date given
Mrs Kempton, age 24, d CT FHL film 3153 no date given

This is the only records of anything Kempton/Kimpton in CT at those times. This solves some of the problems that previous Sedgwick, Kempton-Stevens, and Saunders had with finding the mysterious Henry Kempton in (Hartford) CT, then moving into the same city as Major Henry Kempton causing conflation of UK carpenter Henry Kempton's children into that of Major Henry's lineage (one mention is Henry Jr).

It appears that Susannah Nott died in those early 1823/24 period. A (2) marriage to an unknown wife and death in the post-1824 period creates even further unknowns. It could be said that Thomas could be the son of (2) marriage, as an early census, he says that he was born in CT, but all later census say he was born in NY.

Carolina Covel appears in the family records as widow Carolina Covel, with child of marriage Alphaeus Covel as he comes down to MN records as A. B. Covel. This makes Carolina, not a Covel, but someone else.

Looking for a Carolina Covel produces nothing in the UK and US.

In the UK, we find:

Caroline Covell marriage bann with Samuel Wright 19 APR 1829. She of Woolwich, St Nicholas, London. He os Plumstead, St Nicholas, London.

Catherine Weave(r?) m Thomas Covil 14/16 JUN 1816 ST George,
Botolph Lane, London

These marriages would then immigrate to the US into CT or NY.

No birth records of son Alphaeus Covel is found in UK or US. A search of census records could find him probably being born in US.

There is an interesting US marriage:

Caroline Hamblin m Joseph Covell 1829 Portland, Cumberland Co, Maine.Maine marriage records 1705-1922.

From these records, we should be able to resolve which Carolina is Carolina, ... and finish a task of finding all the linkages of the Covel lines.

Further research of these MN Kimpton is now back in the UK in the 1700s!

Re: Alexander H Kimpton/Anna Smith

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-23 22:22:18Z

Please review the other KI postings here where I helped others with this line, ... and go to www.genealogy.com Kimpton forum and read down those entries also for this information from other seekers.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-23 22:19:56Z

Here is the ancestry.com public family trees for information with Thomas Kimpton.

Run up the line, run down the line, run across the lines and find the other branches of the family you might be searching out.

Look especially for Jim Covel who is the leading researcher of this line.

I am still trying to validate that Henry Kimpton is a Brit, as Thomas was born in NY before 1812, and strong anti-British immigrant attitude.

This means that Thomas and the other namesake names of George, John, Thomas, ... could come from other colonial lines. I spent over 8 hours running down each/every/all lineage of a known (seemingly) dead end line of a son, of which nothing else is known about him, and those that would have a potential namesake line that is missing.

I came up with these entries:

George and John J born of Thomas and we find Clarissa Elizabeth Nash, marriage dates et al and the colonial Nash lines in the public family trees.

These aare the only "valid" 4 lines that could be the missing linkage to the colonial Kempton/Kimpton lines:

George and John Jr - Thomas -:

xxxxx 7 - George 6 - John 5 .......

Thomas 7 - Ephraim 6 - Ephraim 5 .....

Thomas 7 - Ephraim 6 - Thomas 5 .....

xxxxx 8 - xxxxx 6 - John 6 - John 5 ....

This means that the person on these left side of lines moved from Mass to NY, ... or that there were a series of hops that could be Mass - NH and/or VT - NY. This would make the missing Kimpton not necessarily show up on a census in 1 state, disappear as rapidly and appear in another state within months of that census, having or not having had any children born in that state. Gets very complicated when people got itchy pants and moved every 7-8-10+ years. You barely find them in the census and town records. Just someone who was drifting through, and no records kept of them, or memory of them.

So if Jim Covel has truly gotten the Thomas death cert and it says Henry, and he is a Brit or CAN, then we have something further to look on.

Hope all this helps.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-22 22:51:08Z

1855 WI state census:
Thomas Kimpton at Waterford, Racine Co, WI
George Kimpton at Waterford, Racine Co, WI
W.H. Kempton at Berlin, Marquette, WI

Looking further back to try and find Thomas' father, we look at the 1840-1800 censi

Start noticing the appearance of same city or county places for the same people or their children or brothers/cousins. Especially and namesakes (Thomas named after a grandfather etc.).

1840 NY census
Thomas Kimpton Albion, Oswego Co NY **our guy***
William R Kempton, Southern, Greene Co, NY
M Kempton Ogdensburg, St Lawrence, NY
Jerome Kempton Boonville, Oneida, NY **Oneida**
Hiram Kempton Toconderoga, Essex, NY **Essex**

1830 NY census
Samuel B Kempton Malone, Franklin, NY
Stephen Kempton Lysander, Onondaga, NY
Henry Kempton Fairfield, Herkimer, NY **Herkimer**
Orvil Kempton Westport, Essex, NY **Essex**

1820 NY census
Sargent Kempton (wife "Susan") Fort Ann, Washington, NY
William Kempton Rome Oneida, NY **Oneida**
Aaron Kimpton Milo, Ontario, NY **Ontario**
Henry Kimpton Fairfield, Herkimer, NY **Herkimer**
Simeon Kimpton Toconderoga, Essex, NY **Essex**

1810 NY census
Edward Kimpton Halfmoon, Saratoga, NY
Samuel Kempton Bloomfield, Ontario, NY **Ontario**
Theron Kimpton Adams, Jefferson, NY
"Henry Knapt" Warren, Herkimer, NY **Herkimer**

Thomas Kempton b~1805/6 in census says NY, 1 entry (wrong?_ says CT). There are NO census records having any Kempton names. There is a special 1, and that is this Henry listing.

1800 census et al:
Martha Kimpton NY Ward5, NYC, NY
David Kimpton Deerfield, Oneida, NY **Oneida**

There are some South Carolina and 1 Maryland Kemptons that might prove interesting.
Ann of Charleston-4, SC
George of Charleston-4, SC
John of Jork district, SC
John "Kampton" Lexington, Orangeburg Dist, SC
Michael Kempter Liberty, Frederick, Maryland

There is a story about a supposed Henry, cabinetmaker who appears in CT then disappears. He is in no known lineage. Whether this Henry is from England and comes to CT, short while, then moves into NY from which other researches (for other) put him, we can see this Henry is different from a recognized Major Henry Kempton, in the nearby vicinity!

What appears interesting is the names (namesaking?) in the family list is John, William, Susan, Thomas, brother George, ... and how this might tie into other George, Thomas, William, or John lines. Many of the lines I have researched and they do not appear to be any known Thomas Kempton lineages.

Thomas' father needs to be found by his NY birth cert, or town records in NY. That information would be gained by other vital records mentioned above. The marriage record of Thomas and Clara/Clarissa would surely help all these matters.

Please read the other Kimpton and Kempton postings here in ancestry.com and those also in genealogy.com, where I have also researched for others having these MN Kemptons and Kimptons that are so hard to trace down. That other information from these other people might also gain some valid further information on which to search from.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-22 20:02:42Z

Well digging has truly opened up major finds!

MN 1857 state census:

Houston Township 104, Houston Co, MN
San(d)ford Johnson 37 ~1820 NY
Mary J 34 ~1823 NY
Joseph 13 ~1844 NJ
Pally 13 ~1844 VT
Antoinette 9 ~1848 WI **********
Alfred 8 ~1849 WI
Joseph 6 ~1851 WI
Charles 4 ~181853 WI
Yeo (George) 2 ~1855 WI
three other Johnson brothers with the family

1860 census Houston, Houston Co, MN:
Sandford 40
Mary J 38
Atontinette 12
Alfred 11
Joseph 10
Charles 8
George 5
Pally 2
Albert 3/12

1850 WI census Waushara, Dodge Co, WI:
Sanford 29 ~1821 NY
Mary j 27 b~1823 NY
Antoinette 1 b~1849 WI
Alfred x/12 b~1850 WI

1855 WI state census Waterford, Racine Co, WI:
Thomas Kimpton .....

1860 MN census Mapleton, Blue Earth, MN:
Thomas KEmpton 55 b~1805 NY ********
Clara (Clarissa) 46 b~1814 NY *********
John 24 b~1836 NY ***********
family moves NY to WI
Charles 15 b~1845 WI
(Susan) Mary 13 b~1847 WI ***********
Phebee 9 b~1851 WI
Lucy 7 b~1853 WI ************
Anna 5 b~1855 WI
Martha 3 b~1857 WI

Boy all this needs writing up in the Kempton/Kimpton families book! This is the missing lineage many have been seeking.

So Thomas Kempton/Kimpton and Clara/Clarissa. There are 13 Thomas to run through. Will update for anything found.

Joseph John

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-22 18:50:44Z

When you are able to find the parents of John J Kimpton, I then believe that I can then finally rediscover a lost/missing Kimpton lineage that is not within the genealogical books.

Many lineages (those ending with females) were not around at the time of Josephine Sedgwick (1910s) and later researchers. So they could only list the children that were known. They became not-in-fact dead ends that needed to be corrected later.

This is where others in your Blue Earth history of other Kemptons and Kimptons (in ancestry.com and genealogy.com) have been asking me questions for nearly 20 years. You are a lost lineage that needs to be restored.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-22 18:46:58Z

I need you to do some footwork for vital records information.

Death certificates (MN) (Dept of Vital Records):
19xx-1931+ Nettie Kimpton-Edison Pine Island, Goodhue Co, MN
1874-1880 Annette Johnson-Kimpton (?) Beauford, Blue Earth Co,MN
3 MAY 1893 John J Kimpton Pine Island, Goodhue Co, MN
14 JUN 1931 John Kimpton Pine Island, Goodhue Co, MN
post-1880 Clarissa Kimpton Beauford or Pine Island, MN

to get their birth dates, places, and parents names, birth places for further research

Marriage Certificate (MN):
13 NOV 1866 Fairbault, Blue Earth Co, MN John and Annette,

to get their ages, birth places, and the parent's names

Birth Certificates (MN):
19 JUN 1871 John Kimpton
18 OCT 1875 Nettie Kimpton

to get their parents full names, ages, birth places

Then have the potential to find the cemetery and tombstone locations documented for any/all information on them.

Birth Certificates (WI):
~1849 Annette Johnson
~1853 Lucy Kimpton

to find their parents full names, ages, birth places

Birth Certificates (NY):
14 JUL 1835 John J Kimpton
~1841 Susan M Kimpton

to find xxxxx Kimpton and Clarissa xxxx full names, ages, birth places

Eventually this will help find the marriage certificate/record of xxxxx Kimpton and Clarissa xxxx and their parents names as well.

Finding Annette Johnson's birth certificate will ascertain whether she is a Scandinavian immigrant family (very early!) or whether she is an English Johnson (this is what I believe).

All these vital records, and any obituaries you can find in the local MN newspapers will also find the Johnsons in WI, along with the Kimptons, ... then the later Johns and Kimptons in Blue Earth where John and Annette were married. This also helps find the parents of John J Kimpton in MN, not showing in the census, and the Johnson parents also.

If you can gain any of this information, it will further assist me in assisting you in further research.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-21 23:49:07Z

Of the said children (daughters) of Courtland Edison and his wives would be:

First wife? Kati(e)
Anna Agnes b 1887.
Kati(e) dies between 1887-marriage of 12 JUN 1890 with wife Nettie Kimpton.

Nettie's death is perplexing as Cortland is shown with another wife Adeline in the 1930 and 1920 census. The other potential is 1910 showing a misspelled Cortland Edison as a boarder age 54, b ~1856 WI with father b in CAN-French and mother b in CAN-French.

1900 census has Cortland as single b Nov 1855, age 44 b MN.

This makes Nettie die between 1890 marriage and 1900 census. All confusing with vital records and census. If she died, then it is more probable that the cemetery mention of 19?? (unreadable?) is that in/on/before 1900.

There is a 1910 mention of a Cortland E Edison 1 and 7/12 years old, listed as "daughter!" with other people in Frazee, Becker Co, MN. This could be the last of Nettie, dying after this childbirth, or Cortland's 3rd wife (unknown) and then 4th wife Adeline ....

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-21 23:32:04Z

Here is (I believe and will search out connections in the genealogy books) is direct information.

1880 MN census, Beauford, Blue Earth, MN shows a convoluted family arrangement:

xxxx Kimpton = Clarissa Kimpton (widow)
b ?, ? b ~1813 NY
father ? father b CT
mother ? mother b CT
married pre-1835 NY

some/all children:

John b ~1836 NY
Susan b ~1841 NY
Lucy b ~1853 ... Wisconsin

From this information we can see a marriage in NY, then moving between 1841-1853 to Wisconsin.

There is further MN death records of this John b 14 JUL 1835 NY, d 3 MAY 1893 Pine Island, Goodhue Co, MN

Susan married a xxxxx Ward with children shown in the census.

Lucy is shown as a widow with no children.

Another nephew is mentioned from someone.

A MN marriage record is found for John J Kimpton and (corrected name) Annette Johnson. John's vital data above. Annette Johnson, b ~1849 Wisconsin. Marriage 13 NOV 1866 Fairbulat, Blue Earth Co., MN.

Children to John and Annette Kimpton are:

John b 19 JUN 1870 Beauford, Blue Earth Co, MN, d 14 JUN 1931 Pine Island, Goodhue Co., MN.

Nettie ("Marie Antoinette?" b MN death/tombstone record 18 OCT 1875 Beauford?, MN. Death date 19?? in the records. Nettie mentioned on brother John's death record of 1931, so she d 1931+, listed d in Pine Island, MN.

Annette b ~1849, m 1866, d 1874 (Nettie's birth -1880 census listing father John as widower). No death vital found. Either in Beauford, MN or to the Pine Island, MN region.

More census records need reviewing for all NY-WI-MN for the xxx and Clarissa mention, the rest of the John and Annette mentions, and what can be found for Nettie and her said 2 marriages.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-21 20:59:46Z

There is a lot of round about information, without direct data.

Co(u)rtland Edison d 28 SEP 1932 xxx city, Norman Co, MN.

Anna Agnes Edison is shown in MN birth indiex b 10 OCT 1887, xxxx city, Dodge Co, MN. Father Courtland Edison and Kati (mispelled Nettie).

There is a death cemetery reference to a Nettie b 18 OCT 1875 (place unstated) d 19?? Pine Island, Goodhue Co, MN.

Nettie Kimpton m Cortland Edison 12 JUN 1890 xxxx city, Dodge Co, MN.

An probably infant birth/death of xxxx Edison b 15 JUL 1891, xxxx city, Dodge Co, MN.

1930 MN census Cortland Edison b ~1852 WI to Adeline (unmentioned birth year and place) living in Wild Rice, Norman, Co, MN.

Any situation searching for Charles or Charles E Milton shows 2 possibles from TX. Both born ~1870. Precinct 2, Dallas, TX and Precinct 4, Falls, TX. Both 1 and 4 months old in the 1870 census.

It is entirely possible that you are part of the MN Kimptons of Beauford, Blue Earth, MN. Check other Kimpton researches for these mentions, and within the www.genealogy.com Kimpton forum as well. They are a difficult lonieage to trace out.

In the 1880 MN census John Kimpton, head of house, age 40s, with widow mother Clarissa. There is a daugter Nettie, age 6 (~1875). The census says Clarissa b ~1813 CT or NY (!) with both parents born CT. The Kimpton father of John is said b CT.

It would seem that Anna Agnes is daughter of Cortland and former wife Kati(e) b 1887, then deather of Kati, having marriage 1890 Nettie Kimpton and Cortland Edison. Then Ruth and Cecelia born to them (?).

Need to research books and further census looks.

Re: Marie Antionette Kimpton

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-21 19:54:47Z

Please provide further dates and information.

What are the birth, marriage, and death dates and places for Marie. Vital records information, tombstone informaiton.

When/where did Charles Milton die, same for Courtland Edison. Tombstone information.

Which daughters are Miltons and which are Edison.

Need to look at books but also pull up the censi, and bare info makes research very difficult.

Marie Antionette Kimpton

Paperdolli — 2012-03-20 21:59:55Z

Marie Antoinette Kimpton was my maternal great grandmother. She was married twice. First to Charles Edward Milton. She later was married to Cortland Edison, a first cousin of Thomas Edison, in Minnesota, USA.

Her children were Anna Agnes, Ruth, and Cecelia, my grandmother.

paperdolli@aol.com

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

LStalley — 2012-03-15 21:43:34Z

Whow! thank you so much will have a lot to get on with.
Libby

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-15 20:51:39Z

Here are the last of anyting Cambridgeshire that could access an KY, KE, or KI.

English Cambridge anything strip of Kympton:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_generaleng...
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_generaleng...-

Anything Kempton and Cambridge:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_generaleng...
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_generaleng...-

Anything Kimpton and Cambridge:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_generaleng...
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_generaleng...-

Anything Pallott’s birth Kympton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotb&ra...
Anything Pallot’s birth Kempton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotb&ra...

Anything Pallot’s birth Kimpton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotb&ra...

All England and Wales births Kympton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bivri_EnglandB...

All England and Wales births Kempton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bivri_EnglandB...

All England and Wales births Kimpton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=bivri_EnglandB...

All England and Wales BMD 1837-1915 Kympton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FreeBMDBirth&a...
All England and Wales BMD 1837-1915 Kempton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FreeBMDBirth&a...

All England and Wales BMD 1837-1915 Kimpton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FreeBMDBirth&a...
Pallots marriage 1780-1837 Kympton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotm&ra...
Pallots marriage 1780-1837 Kempton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotm&ra...
Pallots marriage 1780-1837 Kimpton and Cambridgeshire:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=pallotm&ra...

This should be the majority of any/all ancestry.com documents that are available for access and review.
Anything else would be looking over the entire English parish landscapes. That would be, other than the few London BMD strips, would be a massive undertaking.
Hope these help.

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-15 19:03:20Z

These are the strips from the CAMBS B/M/D parish registers. Not sure if they will help or not.

People in these days were more mobile, than in the pre Queen Liz I days, so one can't just sit in 1 shire and have one's entire family history come to pass.

Cambridgeshire, Kempton strip:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_Cambridges...=
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_Cambridges...-
Cambridgeshire, Kimpton strip:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_Cambridges...
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_Cambridges...-
Cambridgeshire, Kympton strip:
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_Cambridges...
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=epr_Cambridges...-

Use the copy and paste function into the top of ancestry.com and these should display for you. Each strip (not sure) will show only 1 page) or allow you to work next page. Strips are only 1-2 pages total for all of the CAMBS strips.

Ancestry.com also converts the KY into KI and KE, without reason, so you should be aware that not all KIs or KIS or KEs KEs, but that they might even be cross-printed.

If we had only stayed with the Old Latin KY into English KI!
All the KEs are causing the problem!

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-14 21:08:56Z

Info for info sake.

London BmD 1538-1812

Isaac Kimpton m Mary Heath 2 Jun 1706 St Dunstan in the East, London

Isaac Kimpton m Lydia Winter 14 Aug 1731 St Benet Paul's Whart, London

Edward Kimpton m Mary Waller 13 Apr 1732 St Paul's Cathedral, London

Isaac Kempton m Hannah Burrason 17 Jan 1715 St Sepulchre, Holborn, London

Isaac Kempton d 6 Sep 1749 St Augustine, Watling Street, London

London burials 1813-1980
Isaac Kimpton b ~1786 d 7 Mar 1840 Shoreditch, St Hackney, Leonard, London

England and Wales burial 1837-1915
Isaac Kempton b ~1808 d J/F/Mar 1870 Ely CAMBS
Isaac Kempton b ~1815 d J/F/Mar 1879 Pancras, London

When doing strips of Isaacs in either Ke or Ki there comes up a ton, which also makes issues hard.

I haven't concentrated specifically on CAMBS, but should try to look more in that direction, but any labor class would go where work came, especially Industrial Revolution, and ship building in the west coast region.

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

LStalley — 2012-03-14 05:08:17Z

thanks so much yes a black and tan coming up!!
You can see how difficult it has been for me without your long experience.
the only proof I have is of her birth year. Even on her death certificate only says aged 65. she died suddenly on 1/10/1896. and grave stone.
However on one of your census of 1851 in Ely it says that a Hannah Kempton was boarding with a John Wright aged 10 years. Now Hannah"s husband to be mother was Susan Wright then to be Stalley. Just a thought there may be a connection here. I always wondered why she came out on the same ship so she may have know John before hand !!
the plot thickens.
I will study further the info you have given me, some of the names I have found too but of course no proof.
Hannah had a sad life and her daughter committed suicide after her mothers sudden death.
the family tried to cover it up by saying it was someone else....what families do!!
thanks again Libby
Libby with thanks

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-14 01:50:56Z

Of those above 1851 census, 5 Hannah KEs, 0 Hannah KIs, 2 fitting birth era. Here is further side information from census.

b~1832 Limehouse, Essex, ENG, "living" at Barking, Essex, ENG.

b~1836 Ely, CAMB, ENG, "living" at Ely St Mary, CAMB, ENG.

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-14 01:47:42Z

London ENgland Births and Baptisms 1813-1906

Hannah Kempton, father Isaac Kempton, mother Mary Ann Kempton
b ~1841, Southwark St Savior, bapt 8 Aug 1841 Souithwark St Savior

Southwark Borough, Parish registers.

So many different names and changes, dates don't fit, parents change, ....

Really need to have proof that something of the above is valid for any further work.

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-14 01:41:31Z

You really owe me a Black & Tan ....

I thought with 30+ years of genealogia, that I have seen everything, but horrible records, horrible handwriting, horrible photographic work.

What DEFINITIVE statement on marriage, death, any statements of Hannah that she was born in CAMBs and especially 1831.

Here is partial extract.

1841 UK census has 2 Hannah Kempton or Kimpton.

shows Hannah Kimpton of St Lary's Pt of, Ely St Mary, CAMB, ENG, District 2, birth ~1831

other Hannah Kimpton of Abbot Langley, HERT, ENG, birth ~1837

Two others are out of birth time period or place.

The 1841 Ely record is horrible, but reads as:

Isaac KEmpton 30, Ironmonger
Mary 30
Eliza 8
Hannah 6
Mary Ann 2
Thomas? (horrible writing and picture) x months old

Doing a KEmpton strip of the same 1841 gives:

Limehouse, St Anne, Limehouse, Middlesex, ENG:
Edward Kimpton 45 horrible occupation
horrible (Mary Ann) 35
horrible Anne 15
William 10 (twin)
Hannah 10 (twin)
horrible Patterson Cuthbert 5 horrible horrible horrible
Elizabeth 3
horrible Jeremiah? 1/2?

1851 census has Hannah KE or KI:

Limehouse, Essex, ENG
Edward Kimpton Head (? horrible) Thor Maker 34
Mary Wife 47
Mary Dau 24
Hannah Dau 19
horrible Charlotte Dau 14
horrible Frederick son 10
Joseph Gray (Visitor) Cooper 25

Ely, St Mary CAMB

Hannah Kempton is shown living in Lochlin house (servant girl?) 15 b ~1836
John Mar Lochlim 31 ~1820
Jane Locklin 33 ~1818
John Wright boarder 10 ~1841

running birth certs in CAMBS Hannah Ke or KI = "0"

London, England Births and Baptisms 1813-1906
Hannah b~1831 baptism 25 Sep 1831 Limehourse, St Anne, Essex, ENG birth Limehouise, St Anne, Esssex, ENG Tower Hamlet Borough, Parish Registers
father Edward Stanhope KE
mother Mary Ann KE

London, England Non-conformist rigisters 1694-1921
Hannah Kimpton, father William Kimpton, mother Charlotte Kimpton, bapt 18 Dec 1831 Lambeth, vital 18 Dec 1831 Lambeth, Middlesex, ENG, following listing shows Charlotte also baptized. Kennington Road Presbyterian Church.

more ....

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

LStalley — 2012-03-12 22:51:06Z

Well I have a problem, which , if you can help, would be marvellous!!

My GG Grandmother was Hannah Kimpton.Born 1831.
she came to Adelaide SA on the Octavia in July 1855.
the only record I have of her being on that ship is a Knipton.
but she was on that ship as her future husband John Stalley was. they were married in Adelaide 7th Jan 1856
this is the only information I have so I dont know if she came from Cambridgeshire where john was born or London.
I would love to know more but have exhusted the information here in Adelaide.
Can you help??
Libby

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

LStalley — 2012-03-12 22:50:58Z

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-12 20:19:53Z

Since you haven't given any information on who/what/where you are researching, I am at a loss in answering a rhetorical statement.

The Kymptons came from the sublineage of the FitzAlan Earls of Shropshire (1480s). Two main lines went into the Hertfordshire area where they had many manors and rental lands. There is the other John of Cambridgeshire with many a dynatic line coming from there ... at Elsworth and Cambridge city.

The Kymptons of Hertfordshire were located originally in Weston, (Monken) Hadley (sometimes put into Middlesex, Walkern, Shephall, Flamstead, Chiffield, Graveley, London, Gray's Inn, Hertingfordbury, Hertford, Stevenage, and others surrounding the modern town name of Kempton, HERT.

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

LStalley — 2012-03-11 06:16:04Z

thank you for your help all very interesting but I dont think this is my Kimpton.

Re: Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-10 20:20:56Z

The direct male Ephraim Kempton descendants are rightfully allowed to wear the Sir William Kympton (pre 1540s) and Sir Robert Kympton (1577) coat of arms.

We have the rightful FitzAlan coat of arms as well.

We even have a cusp 1200s-1300s mainprise (king's/ambassadorial messenger) coat of arms for the more ancient Richard-John-John Kympton sub-lineage within the FitzAlans.

Our rightful arms are thus:

Sir Richard-John-John:
On a shield sable (black), in the chief (top 1/3 portion) a walking lion of argent (silver), in the base (bottom 2/3 portion) a cross saltire (St. Andrew's "X" cross).

Sir William Kympton of Weston, HERT and London:
On a shield azure (blue), in the chief three fleur de lis (lily flower) of gold

Sir Robert of London and Chiffield, HERT
On a shield azure (blue), three fleur de lis (lily flowers) in the corners, in the base a pelican white pecking its breast with wings aloft.

We also have the ancient FitzAlan Earls coat of arms:

On a shield azure (blue) a lion rampant (walking upright and all 4 legs clawing, tail aloft, mouth open facing to the left) gold.

Kympton/Kempton/Kimpton genealogical information

HRHCrownPrinceJohnLord — 2012-03-10 20:09:44Z

I will gladly assist those people wanting to find their connections with the KYs/KEs/KIs. This means American ancestry. I will "try" to assist others of English lineages from others, as pertains to getting resources from ancestry.com, as I am very familiary with what is available here.

I have conducted the greatest research beyond that of Josephine Sedgwick, Margaret Kempton-Stevens, and Morton Saunders. I have all their books and personally knew Margaret and Morton in the 1980s-90s.

In 1990s, I had a LDS U.S. and U.K. researcher "DO!" all the known records in England of any/all Ks, xxxx-1650. The research would conclusively find our lineage, and all other lines that would assist other English people in these times.

This research denotes the 3 brothers William, George, and John and their dynasties.

My further research of 30 years supports that our K ancestry descends from the noble-extinct FitzAlans Earls of Shropshire.

The lineage from William 15th Earl of Shropshire is: ...

Sir William Kympton, landed gentry of ~many~ manors and rental lands of Weston,Hertford and London, Alderman, ...

Edmund, landed gentry, draper (clothier) of Weston/Walkern, HERT and London, ...

SIR ROBERT KEMPTON, Barrister (Attorney) of Gray's Inn, London and Chiffield, HERT (Knighted by HMQueen Eliz I, 1577), ...

William, landed gentry of Chiffield, HERT ...

George non-landed (then landed) gentry of Graveley cum Chiffield - Berwick upon Tweed, Northumberland, ...

Manasseh and Ephraim Kempton, both born in Berwick, both come back to (Manasseh) Colchester, Essex and (Ephraim) London.

Ephraim is a London tailor.

Wives of these (1) William, (2) Edmund, (3) Robert, (4) William, (5) George, and (6) Ephraim lineage is suspected or proven from probates as:

(1) Elizabeth Moundslowe,

(2)Lucy Hyde daughter of Sir --- Hyde of -----,

(3) ---- Hewes of Sir Hewes of Chiffield (from which the family gained great lands to the family's children,

4) Joan ----,

(5-1) Margaret Foster in HERT, second cousin, child and wife die,

(5-2) Frances (suspected Jersey of the sub-noble line of Francis Seymour, of the Seymour Earls of HERT dynasty (and their royal connections with the royalty), child George and wife die,

(5-3) Marye (Mary?/Marie?/Maria?) Jersey (younger sister?) married in London, and

(6)Elizabeth Willson (double Ls) married in 1617 Holy Trinity the Less, London.

There is no known death record for Ephraim's wife Elizabeth in London. It is suspected that she died on the ship's transit in the winter 1639/40, when they came to the colonies. Ship's records and passenger lists are still forthcoming from the genealogical archives. They, and son Ephraim in a separate residence, are shown in the Residents of London, 1630s document, Lambeth palace.

Continuing research of all the females and their father-mother ancestries continues.

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

KimptonR — 2012-01-17 02:38:46Z

I have some of that too - will get it on here as soon as I can :-)

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

eduhome — 2012-01-17 02:19:28Z

thanks for the info

Now i have to take it all in and work out the family going back from edmund and Jane. P.s. Checked out your web site lots of info thanks again

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

KimptonR — 2012-01-17 01:38:16Z

Hello Brett - you are definitely related to my husband. Our website is http://ourhistoryweb.tripod.com if you want to take a look. Meanwhile I have info received from another interested researcher as follows:
William John Mitchell born Cornwall married to Caroline Lavinia Kimpton (born Sandhurst 1870 - listed as Caroline Lavinia Kempton - parents listed as Edmond and Jane)
Marriage reg. no. 503 Victoria in 1894
Caroline Lavinia Mitchell died Moonee Ponds in 1930 - Reg. No. 10959

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

eduhome — 2012-01-16 23:57:33Z

Hi R Kimpton

Edmund/Jane had a daughter Caroline Lavinia Kimpton who married William John (jack) Mitchell my great grandfather

Regards

Brett (Tasmania Australia)

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

KimptonR — 2012-01-16 03:17:14Z

Brett, how do your family members fit into the family? Our family comes down through Frederick Charles Kimpton, son of Edmund Kimpton and wife Jane Combs.

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

KimptonR — 2012-01-16 03:17:07Z

Brett, how do your family members fit into the family? Our family comes down through Frederick Charles Kimpton, son of Edmund Kimpton and wife Jane Combs.

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

eduhome — 2012-01-14 14:13:05Z

I have just started looking into the family tree and would welcome any assistance

regards

Brett

Kimpton

deksing — 2011-09-09 15:43:53Z

Trying to find more about Charlotte Kimpton who married William Dolamore at St Mary's Church, Watford, Hertfordshire on 30 Sept 1794.
Derek

Re: KIMPTON ERNEST WILLIAM

Treetectives — 2011-07-19 09:37:36Z

I found Ernest William KIMPTON on the 1911 age 36 stating he was born in Uxbridge Middlesex

I attach the image if thats any use to you

Re: Alexander H Kimpton/Anna Smith

brendabarbian — 2011-05-07 23:20:11Z

The Davis and Kimpton Brickyard is located on the west bank of the Warwick, River, approximately 4 miles upstream from its confluence with the James River. It is the site of a late nineteenth-early twentieth century industrial complex where brick was manufactured from locally-dug clay and a saw mill was operated. Industrialization of the tract as a brickyard began in 1898, with the purchase of 36.75 aces of land from Joseph Nettles and the Bank of Hampton by John W. Davis and Alexander H. Kimpton.
Alexander Kimpton and his wife conveyed their haf-interest in the operation to A. C. Garrett throught a deed of trust to secure a debt of $2,356. On February 10, 1904, the Kimptons sold their half-interest in the property and in the brick-manufacturing machinery. It also included all of the appliances and utensils on the premises used and owned by the late firm of Davis and Kimpton in manufacturing brick and sawing lumber, including a sawmill and pug mill, all all engines, carts, and wagons.

Re: Edmund Kimpton Jane Combs

KimptonR — 2011-01-01 11:30:40Z

Have more info now, Edmund's father was James Kimpton, and mum Hannah Sprawson, and have further back names too

Re: Descendents of Thomas KIMPTON and Sarah JOHNSON, Ware and Great Amwell, Herts

peterm51 — 2010-07-12 12:04:54Z

Finnetta KIMPTON married Charles MOORE (my 2nd cousin twice removed) and I would be interested in knowing the birthdates of her siblings - I have the approx year (and for some the QTR of their birth registrations) and would be keen to fill in some gaps.

I can advise Finnetta's marriage/death/burial details if you don't have them.

Cheers
Peter Moore

Re: Descendents of Thomas KIMPTON and Sarah JOHNSON, Ware and Great Amwell, Herts

ches1980 — 2010-07-11 09:31:30Z

hi, i have reseached back to 1708 on the Kimpton's side- please view my family tree.

Re: Descendents of Thomas KIMPTON and Sarah JOHNSON, Ware and Great Amwell, Herts

peterm51 — 2010-07-10 11:12:54Z

Finnetta Eliza KIMPTON (1873-1938) married Charles MOORE (my 2nd cousin twice removed) in Uxbridge 1902.
Finnetta was the daughter of Thomas & Annie and one of 7 children - I'm looking for further assistance with these families.
Cheers
Peter

Re: Kimptons from Cambridgeshire (still!)

LuciaMax — 2010-05-23 19:31:30Z

Hi, sorry for the delay in getting back to you!! Work gets in the way!!

As far as I can tell Elizabeth Moulson is the lady's name. I have docs tracing back my Kimpton line from myself (a Kimpton) to John Kimpton and Elizabeth (nee Moulson). The Cambridgeshire marriage index shows a marriage at Haddenham on 5th November 1822 for a John Kimpton and Elizabeth Moulson and Elizabeth is the name of the mother of my great, great, great grandfather Thomas Kimpton as per census reports.

I have the same reference to John snr and Susannah Sheffield. I got this reference from ancestry "hints".

I can provide you copies of what I have but it would be easier to use e-mail as I am not sure how to send docs over ancestry accounts.

Cheers, LuciaMax (Deitra dckimpt@aol.com)

Re: James Kimpton/Charlotte Atkins

bruceevans33 — 2010-05-18 03:58:16Z

I would certainly appreciate anything you have back to 1841. Thank you very much.

Bruce

Re: James Kimpton/Charlotte Atkins

Treetectives — 2010-05-17 09:40:20Z

I can get the family line youu are researching back to the 1841 census if you so wish

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Re: James Kimpton/Charlotte Atkins

bruceevans33 — 2010-05-16 20:38:08Z

Thank you very much. That gets me back another ten years. Are you researching this family or "just" a kind person who helps others?

Bruce

Re: James Kimpton/Charlotte Atkins

Treetectives — 2010-05-16 18:13:52Z

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/iexec/?htx=view&r=5538&...

copy and paste that, its James and Charlotte on 1881

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James Kimpton/Charlotte Atkins

bruceevans33 — 2010-05-15 12:20:04Z

I'm looking for anything on this couple. They were married in the third quarter of 1879 in Wandsworth, England.

Re: Kimptons from Cambridgeshire (still!)

gillianfearn — 2010-05-14 10:23:30Z

Hello,

John Kimpton was born 1771 in Eltisley, Cambs and married Dorcas Green 21 April 1793. He died 26 December 1848 in Papworth St Everard, Cambs. In the 1841 census he is shown as Ag lab, living with Eady Kimpton age 50, presumably a daughter. His son Robert (1806 - 1893) brother to your John I suppose, is my 3 X grt grandfather. He and his family lived in Papworth all his life. I have his wife as Mary Maulden, but now I've seen Elizabeth Moulsen in your message I'm wondering if it's a transcription error...What do you know about her?
I do have a reference to the parents of John snr as being John 1738 - 1816 and Susannah Sheffield 1738 - 1807, but I can't remember where I got this from.
I'd love to hear some more!

Re: Kimptons from Cambridgeshire (still!)

LStalley — 2010-01-20 22:30:50Z

Thanks a lot for your on going help!