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Re: MacKenzie/Kimzey/Kimsey

joykimsey — 2012-03-26 12:48:34Z

I want you guys to know that James Kimsey who was born 1755 to Benjamin I Kimsey/Kimzey died in 1799 in Jackson Co, Ga. We have court records that show that his brother David Kimsey/Kimzey went into court to handle his estate. David was living close to James and to the Crowley/Croley's in Ga at the time. After this death, the James Kimsey family moved to Tn and David followed about 1808.

Re: MacKenzie/Kimzey/Kimsey

audit2 — 2012-03-06 21:23:15Z

Go here and see information I have.

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Ron

Re: MacKenzie/Kimzey/Kimsey

AKVwoman — 2012-03-06 13:07:29Z

Hey Ron,

Thanks for the response! Was your gg-grandfather James Kimsey (1755-1817)? That was the only place I could put you in my tree. I know I have some info incorrect; I have a lot of people but don't know where they belong.

My line is: James Kimsey--Wade Hampton--Samuel G--Everett L--my dad,

Ann

Re: MacKenzie/Kimzey/Kimsey

audit2 — 2012-03-06 03:27:58Z

Benjamin Kimsey (25 Apr 1794) was my Great Grand father and an uncle to Wade.

Ron

Re: MacKenzie/Kimzey/Kimsey

AKVwoman — 2012-03-05 17:25:40Z

I, too, have followed this thread with keen interest for years. I'm rather a newbie so I have to defer to my cousin for our Kimsey family history. We are descendants of Wade Hampton Kimsey of Platte County, MO.

Are we involved in a yDNA surname project? The tests are pricy, to be sure; but, what a wealth of information they contain! I am currently having one completed on my father, E L Kimsey, since being female precludes me having the test done. If anyone is interested, I'm more than happy to share whatever information I have that has been acquired from some very diligent researchers.

Re: Kimsey arriving in America

dryforkjeff — 2012-02-29 20:09:44Z

Hi,

My interest in the Kimsey is peripheral, and secondary to a Cunningham project I am working on. As you know, Benjamin Kimsey's brother William of Lost River in Hampshire/Hardy Co., WV married Elizabeth Cunningham.

As a coincidence, most of my ancestors came from Pendleton Co., WV, which is adjacent Rockingham Co., VA. I have researched most Pendleton families for over 30 years, even the ones I'm not related to. Arthur Johnson Sr.'s wife was Margaret Phares, a dau. of John Phares who came to Rockingham from near Philadelphia.

Soon after Arthur Johnson's death, his widow remarried to William Gregg/Gragg Sr. Around 1770, they moved to the Seneca Rocks area in current Pendleton Co., WV. Margaret died there by 1790. William Gragg Sr. remarried to Martha Wheaton in 1791, and she was his widow when he died in 1794-5. You can read about this on-line in an article a friend of mine, Warren Skidmore, wrote about the Phares family. Google those key words and you will find the article.

There is some circumstantial evidence that William Gragg Sr. may have had a brother named Robert, i.e. same generation, same locale. It's not too far-fetched to me to think there may have been a sister around as well. This could be your Margaret Gragg who m. Benjamin Kimsey Sr. Kimsey was in the Brock's Gap settlement, not more than about 5-10 miles from where the Graggs were.

Just some food for thought.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

smsitton — 2012-01-16 21:09:45Z

I appreciate that but confess I like to get copies of the documents or close to primary source documents. So many people summarize what they have found (or someone else found!)...that is why I hunted for so long for Thomas Kimsey's bible rather than rely on the transcriptions. Finally gave up for now. Getting specific information on precisely where something was found with date is very very helpful!

Good tip to watch out for Mr Kinsley and not be led astray by him. Thanks for everything that you have shared including searching advice!

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-16 19:49:39Z

If you go through all the Kimsey/Kimzey message boards, most of the records I have were put on. about 10 years ago.
I have put some on findagrave.
Be careful when you look in Augusta Co, There really was a Benjamin Kimsey and a Benjamin Kinsley. Benjamin Kinsley was in the Revolution and owned a lot of land. Not related to us.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

smsitton — 2012-01-16 18:30:43Z

Yes..the hunt for actual records is critical and new materials keep becoming available I think VA library is working on new digital records for Augusta County so we may have more access online later in the year. Same with ship records etc. hard to read but some new stuff keeps becomes available regularly. Of course it is still all complex...I am fairly sure now we probably have two Margaret Gregg/Graggs floating around the same time period..Margaret Phars who married Johnson and as his widow married William Gregg and thus became "a" Margaret Gregg but not the woman who is the candidate for the wife of one of the Ben Kimseys. That does not prove a Margaret Gregg/Gragg did marry a Kimsey as related in various stories but it does explain the documents relating to the Margaret Johnson Gregg...who isn't likely to be "our" Margaret Gragg/Gregg. Thanks also for posting the new materials on William Kimsey..it has new locations I hadn't seen before and it was helpful to know that these were near VA and MAryland border.

Re: William Kimsey brother of Benjamin Sr born 1725-1733

joykimsey — 2012-01-16 16:42:45Z

Note that his name is always written with an "s" except in one place Kinsley.

William Kimsey brother of Benjamin Sr born 1725-1733

joykimsey — 2012-01-16 16:30:36Z

Requested a survey of Hampshire of George Washington
1752
1758 Augusta Co Militia

21 June 1762 William Kimsey 66 acres on the south branch run of Lost River of Cacapehon
Hampshire Co, Va
Northern neck grants K 1757- 1762 page 459 ( reel 294)
Land Grants issued by Fairfax Propriety 1690=1781
1762
Land Grant from Lord Fairfax
The right Honorable Thomas Lord Fairfax, Baron of Carnevan (sp), in that part of Great Britain called Scotland .Proprietor of the Northern Neck of Virginia. To all to whom those present writing shall come send greeting. Know ye that for good causes for your consideration of the compenfation (compensation) to me paid for the annual rent hereinafter received. I have given, granted, and confirmed and by those presents for my heirs and assigns do give grant and confirm unto William Kimsey of Hampshire County a certain tract of waste and ungranted land on the South Branch Run of the left piece of Caraprehon (sp) in the said county and presented as by a survey hereformade by the Mr John Mauzy beginning at the white ashe by the said Run in or near Thomas Waters given line thence with & near its S40 west six poles to those white jake cornce to waters by Thomas Harwicks thence with or near Harwicks line S 55 W forty poles to a hickory sapling thence 17 degree 47 to eightyfour poles to two young white oaks and thence crossing a branch north ninetyseven poles ot a black oak corner on the Run thence down the Run 55.30 one hundred fiftynine poles to the beginning containing containing sixty six acres together with all rights members appurtenances hereunto belonging Royal Mines accepted by a full third part lead copper tinn coal iron mine and iron ore that shall be found thereon to have to hold the said sixty six acres of land together with all rights profits & benefits belonging and anywise appertaining accepted for and accepted to him the William Kimsey his heirs and assigns forever he the said William Kimsey his heirs and assigns therefor therefor yeilding and paying to me my heirs and assigns or to my certain attorney or attorneys agents or agent or to the certain attorney or attorneys of my heirs or assigns proprietors of the said Northern Neck yearly every year on the feast day of Saint Michael the Archangel the fee of one shilling Sterling money for every fifty acres of land hereby granted ? honorably for a grant or lefee or quanity provided he the said Wjilliam Kimsey his heirs & assigns shall not pay the said reserved annual rent or fee so that the same any part thereof shall be behind or unpaid by the space of two whole years after the same shall become due if legally demanded than that it shall & may be lawful for me my heirs and assigns proprietors as afore my or their certain attorney or attorneys agent or agnets unto the above granted premifses to have and hold the same as if this grant had never purchafed (purchased) Given at my office in the county of Frederick under my hand Acted this twenty first day of June in the second year of his majesty King George the third reign. RD1762
Fairfax
William Kimsey deed
for 66 acres Hampshire County
Thos Big Martin

3 Oct 1769 wit land transaction, page 117, John KinKaid of Philadelphia to Samuel Griffith of Henrico Co
Chalkleys Vol 3 page 390-399
William Kimsey
Date: Oct 3, 1769
Location: Augusta Co., VA
Property: 530 1/2 acres bounded by lines of John Kinkade, Thomas Hagert, James Campbell, Andrew Hamilton.
Notes: This land record was originally published in "Chronicles of the Scotch-Irish Settlement in Virginia, 1745-1800. Extracted from the Original Court Records of Augusta County" by Lyman Chalkley.
Remarks: 250. Property is 1/2 of tract purchased by grantor from Patton and Lewis. Deed recorded in Orange County. Delivered to Thos. Adams.
Description: Witness
Book date: 16-117

A William Kimsey witnessed the will of James Irvine 17 Dec 1773, Halifax Co, Virginia

21 June 1762 William Kimsey 66 acres on the south branch run of Lost River of Cacapehon
Hampshire Co, Va
Northern neck grants K 1757- 1762 page 459 ( reel 294)
Land Grants issued by Fairfax Propriety 1690=1781

Indenture Francis McBride to William Kinsley of Hampshire Co, Va (Three Springs near line of Frederick Co, Va) 9 Feb 1761
And William Kimzay sells the land to James Bryan, junior9 Aug 1762
1761
"This Indenture made the ninth day of February in the year of our lord One Thousand Seven Hundred and Sixty One between Francis McBride of the County of Augusta in Virginia of the one part and William Kinsley of the County of Hampshire of the other part. Witnesseth
that fore and in consideration of the sum of Five Shillings current money of virginia to the said Francis McBride in hand paid by the said William Kinsley a or before the sealing and delivery of these present. The receipt where of he doth hereby acknowledge the said Francis McBride hath granted demeded and to Farm let and by these presents doth grant demis and to Farmlet unto the said William Kinsley a certain piece parcel or tract of land scituate lying and being in the county of Hampshire near the lines the County of Frederich at a place commonly known by the name of Three Springs and which was granted to Mr Francis McBride by deed from the ProprietorOffice the xvij th day of October arrdfffsxij? and bounded as followeth beginning at three white oaks on the side of a hill and expanding north 48 degrees N one hundred and eighty poles to a chesnut oak and white oak on the edge of a steep hill thence north forty two degrees E two hundred and forty poles to a red oak white oak and hiccory abouts poles from the head of a spring thence south forty eight degrees past one hundred and eighty poles thence finally south forty two degrees two hundred and forty poles to the begining ~ containing two hundred and seventy acres and all houses buildings orchards etc"

Indenture Francis McBride and Mary, his wife to William Kinsley and Elizabeth his wife 10 Feb 1761 (Three Springs land) Elizabeth has to release her dower so it appears that Francis McBride may be her grandfather. "This indenture released from William Kimsey and Elizabeth his wife to James Bryan junior was acknowledged by the said William Kimsey and Elizabeth his wife. The said Elizabeth being first privately examined as the law states and ordered to be recorded."
Indenture William Kimzay and his wife Elizabeth to James Bryan junior 10 Aug 1762 (Three Springs Land)

William Kimsey signs his name his wife Elizabeth uses her mark E on the indentures
William signs his will with a mark 91

William Kimsey will 8 May 1778
"In the name of god Amen
Be it remembered that on the eigth day of May in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and seventy eight 1778. I William Kimsey of Hampshire County in the Colony of Virginia yoeman, being very sick and weak of body but of perfect mind and memory. Thanks be given to god therefore calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to dye do make and ordain this my last will and testament, that is to say principally and first of all I give and recommend any soul unto the hands of god that gave it and for my body to recommend it to the eart to be buried in a christian site, decent maner at the discretion of my executors and for any such worldly estate where with it hath pleased god to bless me with in this life. I give devise and dispose of the same in the following manner and form.
Item: it is my will and I do order that in the first place all my just debts and funeral charges be paid and satisfied
Then I give and bequeth unto Elizabeth Kimsey my dearly loved wife my whole estate both real and personal to her own proper use during her natural life and if there should be any thing left after my beloved wife's decease--my will is that it should be equally devided between my brothers Benjamin's son Benjamin Kimsey and my dearly beloved wifes brother James Cunninghams oldest daughter Sarah Cunningham.
Item I do hereby constitute and ordain my beloved wife and George Stump my only sole executors of this my last will and testament and I do hereby utterly disallow revolk and disolve all and every other former testaments, wills legavies and xecutos by one and anywys before this time and no other to be my last will and testament. Witness where of I have unto set my hand and seal.
Signed sealed and delivered by the said William Kimsey as his last will and testament in the presence of us the s--?
Stephen Prudall
William McHandy William , his mark, Kimsey seal

9 Feb 1779 proved
At a court held for Hampshire Co on the 9th day of February 1779. This last will and testament of William Kimsay deceased was presented in Court by Elizabeth Kimsay the executor therein named. Proved by the oath of Stephen Prudell one of the witness thereto. And ordered to be recorded. And on the motion of the said executors who made oath, according to law. Certificate is granted her for obtaining a probate. There of in dur form giving security. Therefore she together with Jonathan Fletcher, Stephen Prudell her securities entered into and acknowledged bond in the penalty of two thousand pounds for her due and faithfull administration of the said decedents estate and performance of this will Test Gabriel Jones Jr Co Clerk
10 Aug 1779
At court held for Hampshire County the 10th day of Aug ust 1779. This last will and testament of William Kimsay deceased was proved by the oath of William McHendry. The other witness thereto which was ordered to be certified. Test Gabriel Jones"

Benjamin Kimzey Jr's son William sells above land Nov 16 1813 to John Robertson. (Should prove line of descent)
Williams wife Elizabeth Cunningham Kimsey dies after Benjamin II. Benjamin dies abt 1807 and Elizabeth dies abt 1810. Benjamin's son William is executor of Benjamin's estate and he is selling the land in 1813.

(This land could have been part of "Lost River")

Hampshire County was first inhabited by roaming bands of American Indians who used it as a hunting ground. There is a large mound, believed to be a burial mound residual of the Moundbuilders of pre-history in the county seat.

The Welsh frontiersman Morgan Morgan and the German frontiersman Joist Hite are among the first known European settlers in the county.

Formation of the county was authorized 13 Dec 1753 by the General Assembly of Virginia, to be effective 1 May 1754.

Parts of the county were included in the land grant given to Thomas Lord Fairfax and surveyed by the young George Washington.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-16 16:03:27Z

And I have paper from the Culleden War Society that says they could not find any connection to Benjamin Kimsey and no Scots would name his son Benjamin. We all need to be looking for William and Benjamin arriving in America. When we find that, we will know where they come from. I also do not believe that Thomas is the father of Benjamin and William. I have a copy of Williams will where William leaves his land to his Brother Benjamin's son Benjamin in Hampshire Co, Va. right across the river from Maryland. 1779. So we know that both William and Benjamin immigrated together.
The Kimsey's in New Jersey were Quaker Kimsey's from England and it is still possible that they were of this family. What I found in the records is the name was spelled Kimsey, Kinsey,Kimsy, Kinsy, etc, with the z in the name showing up when the got to Henry Co. There was also a McKinzeyMcKinzie family living in Henry Co, Va(now Patrick Co.) at the same time. I prefer not to put Margaret Gragg in the records only in notes. I believe they are English. Edgar and Collette before they died believed they were English. We have had many genealogists go Scotland to look for William and Benjamin and they are not to be found. The McGragg family fits the Scotland story. They are the banned McGreggor Clan, and they dropped the Mc from their name.
I also feel that Benjamin could have been born anywhere between 1725 and 1733. Margaret Gragg would have been Benjamin I's wife. The old books on Kimzey/Kimsey Genealogy keep coming up and I have to shoot the early information down. So much has been learned in the last 15 years because of the internet, and many ideas shot down on all family lines. People should not put anything on the internet unless they have found the records themselves. I have copies of most of the records out there. We used to have a Kimsey/Kimzey reunion every year, where we could mull things over together and come up with a plan to use. We all decided we were English not from Scotland. During that time 4 different people went to Scoland and they all came back with nothing. Plus hired Scotish genealogist could find nothing. The letters written by the 3 great grandchildren said they were English.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-15 14:40:27Z

You know I think a lot of the genealogists in the early 1900's changed some of the stories. They all liked the idea that the Kimsey's came from Scotland. But in fact we can find Kimsey's in England and not Scotland. Edith Moffit wrote a letter also that said her great grandfather was Benjamin an English Merchant and married Margaret McGregg. The genealogists in Georgia and North Carolina, knew nothing about the James in Missouri and Davids family in Illinois or the part of Benjamin and Agnes family that went on to Missouri. Only in the last 30 years have we straightened out a lot of these people, thanks to Edgar and Collette who wrote every Kimsey in America in the 1980's. I was lucky to know them. I also was able to visit with the great granddaughters of Robert B Kimzey, a son of David Kimzey, brother to Benjamin, James, Thomas. before she died at the age of 99. She and her cousin did genealogy of the family that was in Peoria area and the ones that traveled to Iowa, but missed the David that stayed in livingston Co and the James and some daughters that went to Perry Co, IL. Genelogy is never correct because every day you get a new record or piece of information that changes it.
I have just put some records on findagrave. They are also on this message board back a few years. Hard to find now.
When people couldn't read and write, they didn't know their birthdates. They didn't always celebrate like we do today.
My world connect database is
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-11 16:40:11Z

The Margaret Gragg born to John Gragg and Nancy Ann Wood was born in that time range. (1725-1740)

And Edith Moffiett letter written in 1917 says there were four sons of Benjamin McKimzey and Margaret McGragg: Benjamin, William, Franklin, and Thomas and a daughter Hannah. Well we know that there were more than that. We know that Benjamin is in a court record saying Benjamin Jr son of my brother Benjamin (by Wm by Ben I's brother). We have Benjamin Sr, Benjamin II and James, taking the oath of allegience in 1778/1779. We have Ben I, Ben II, David, Francis Posey (husband of Mary) in the 1800 census and in Henry co, Va records. We have David being in court in Jackson Co, Ga in 1799 handling the estate of his brother James.
There are church records that give Hannah Kimzey Posey death date(mother of Rev Humphrey Posey and wife of William Posey). The only ones we have not found are sons William and Franklin, so must have died before of age or did not exist.
For years everyone thought that the William was actually the William, son of Ben II.
William, son of Ben II, was the only one of Benjamin II's children that did not move to Tn and then some went to Missouri. William married Rebecca Williamson and they died in Georgia.

And there is a possiblity that there was A Franklin in one of the other counties of NC but died without issue.
With David and James and their issue moving away from NC and Georgia at an early time(about 1809), they were not known by the Kimsey/Kimzey's still living in the area. In Missouri, James children used the Kimsey, and Benjamin II's children used Kimzey. David's Children used the Kimzey until later generations and now part use the s and part the z. Thomas children used the Kimsey. But few of them could read and write until early 1800's. They were at the mercy of the court reporters.

My only other source was Edgar Kimsey and his wife Collette. Edgar died in 2002 and Collette in 2005. They did Kimsey genealogy for about 50 years and Edgar was a Kimsey descendend from his father and his mother. Collette said many years ago she and Edgar saw a book, that is now lost that had the descendancy. She claimed it was Ben I and Margaret Gregg/Gragg. If you go back on the message board, you will find some of her posts.
Then Benjamin II and Agnes Lane.
But I choose not to put a wife in my genealogy, so I only have Margaret Gragg in my notes until I can prove it. Which may never happen.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

smsitton — 2012-01-11 01:25:52Z

I tend to agree re probably Ben Kimsey I. Do you have a source for the alleged birth of Margaret (i.e. 1725-1740). The only thing I have ever found on her that was remotely primary source was the reference in the Thomas Kimsey bible transcript (alleging Thomas to be the fourth son of Ben and Margaret but have still not found the bible itself and fear that the reference was done by whoever owned it in 1928 because no one would actually write that a bible (I think); more likely the person who acquired it in 1928 wrote his parents on the transcript...so it isn't primary evidence.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-10 18:36:04Z

Yes I have heard of this. I personally believe Margaret Gragg is the wife of Benjamin I. She was too old to be the wife of Benjamin II who was born 1755. Margaret was born 1725 to 1740.

The story all the Kimsey's try to tell fit the Graggs. They were exciled from Scotland after the Culleden war and dropped the Mc or Mac from their name after arriving in America. They were the McGreggor Clan.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

smsitton — 2012-01-05 15:42:29Z

Slight modification of my comment. Some trees show the William Gragg/Gregg who married Margaret Phars Johnson as brother of Margaret Gragg/Gregg; other trees slow her brother marrying Elizabeth Xx. Either way, the widow of Arthur Johnson who becomes a Margaret Gregg is originally a Phars in those trees, not the Margaret Gragg/Gregg daughter of John Gregg and Nancy who has been suggested as a wife of a Ben Kimsey....

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

smsitton — 2012-01-05 04:52:15Z

Your postings of the various information on the message board is very helpful as you note there are many mistakes in the Kimsey/Kimzey trees, particularly related to Agnes Lane Kimsey Long etc. I did have one question I wanted to raise re Margaret Gragg/Gregg information you posted in this note. I have recently seen trees that show that the Margaret Gragg/Gregg who was the widow of Arthur Johnson was a Margaret Phares and that she married William Gragg after her first husband (Johnson) died and that there is another Margaret Gragg/Gregg, daughter of John Gragg/Gregg who was the sister of the William Gregg who married the widow of Arthur Johnson (creating this Margaret Gregg/Gragg) and leaving the other Margaret Gregg/Gragg still a candidate for the wife of one of the Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzeys (Ben I I suspect, although I guess it is possible she was a first wife of Ben II before Agnes Lane). I haven't yet uncovered any sources for these trees, but wondered if you had come across this description of the "other" Margaret Gregg/Gragg, as a second wife (i.e. Margaret Phares Johnston Gregg/Gragg)of "our" Margaret Gregg/Gragg's brother William? I am going to try to look into the sources for their trees to see if this might leave us a Margaret Gregg candidate for wife of one of the Ben Kimsey/Kimzey's but was curious if you had looked into the Margaret Phars Johnston Gregg possibility?

James Kimzey and Mary Croley

joykimsey — 2012-01-02 01:48:43Z

James was born about 1758 Augusta Co, Va, d Bef Aug 1799 when his brother David goes into court to handle a transaction for James because he has died. James marries Mary Crowley, daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth Strong, Crowley. They marry about 1780 Henry co, Va. James tood the Oath of Alliegence in 1778 with his brother Benjamin. fter James dies, Mary goes to Tennessee and then to Missouri with her children. She is in the 1840 Census of Howard Co, Mo, the part that isnow Johnson Co, Mo.
1790 tax list of Henry Co Va taken Jul 22 James Kimsey 1white tithe (one male over 21) and one horse
listed with Benjamin Sr and Benjamin Jr (David in Abbeville SC and Thomas not old enough)

Evidently moved about 1792 to Georgia as not listed in Henry Co Taxes at this time. Last court record was Patrick Co DeedsBook 1, pg 35
13 Feb 1792. There were several Crowley relatives already in Franklin and Oglethorpe.

From "Wilkes County, Georgia Tax Records 1785-1805"

1793 tax list Wilkes Co, Ga ==Capt James Luckie's Dist
#143 Elizabeth Crowley wd, 1 slave, no land, in Franklin Co

(92Y-145-145A--92Y indicates the year 1792and Y district Capt James Luckies)
#145 James Kimsey 1 tith, 50 acres Shoal Creek in Franklin Co joining Jesse Webb, 145A 80 acres on Oconsee River joining James Crowley.
#104 James Crowley 80 acres on Franklin on Oconsee River 92U-104, 92Y-145A The U district is Capt Charles Lanes
145 A (9) Franklin Co, Oconee River, adjoining William Strong

1790 map shows Y Distric(Kimsey land) is now Madison Co and Oglethorpe Co
1790 map shows U district(Crowley land) is now Clarke Co and Oglethorpe co.
David Kimsey in Abbeville SC 96th Dist is almost directly across the state line from James Kimsey's land in Georgia. All the Abbeville records were burned so nothing now can be found on any land David may have owned.
James not found in the 1793 willkes County tax record although that part may have been devided into another county.

Franklin formed 1784 and Jackson from Franklin in 1796 So land in 1796 became part of Jackson.
copy of tax record in Junes book
Most of the early records of Georgia burned during the different wars.

" This day George Mabry Jr came before the court and made oath that he heard James Kimsey sayd that john Breeden Sr and Richard Pilson was dam'd rogues. They wanted to rong the widow and the fatherless out of their right and said Breeden was drove for horse stealing his teeth knocked our for lying and was damned old convict and he had his pedigree in his pocket and pulled out his papers to show his pedigre but turned off and did not doit and also told said Breeden to bring home the deer skin his son stole from Jeremiah Burnett and he could prove it by Cap't Matthew Small which Capt Small deny'd when ask'd and afterwards said Kimsey asserted that the above accusiation was a lye.
The said Pilson came the same day and made oath that he heard part of the above and heard it all proved and also heard said Kimsey acknowledge it to be a lye. Francis Turner Esq, heard the above all proven and heard Kimsey acknowledge it to be a lye.
At the court held for Patirck County on 13 Feb 1792: This is to certify that we the Arbitrators do agree that the slander that James Kimsey has abrade John Breeden sr by the said Kimsey and his family to be a lye and pay all lawful cost the suit is by us the 13 Dec 1791.
s. Richard Pilson, George Mabry, Francis Turner, Jonah Isom"

1799 Aug 2 Jackson Co, Ga Inferior Court minutes (1799-1800) pg 36 (County Clerks Office)
"James Kimsey vs Laurence Briers-In this case the plaintiff came into court and paid the costs that had arisen and prayed an appeal and William Crowley acknowledged himself security in the said case that is he the plaintiff shall pay the eventual condemnation money. Mr Crowley will do it for him or surrender his body in discharge of himself. Acknowledged in open court Teste B Easley Clk"

1799 Inferior Court minutes pg 31 (cc office
"James Kimsey vs Laurence Briars--No 1 Jury. The jurors find for the defendant signed Jacob Lindsay FM"

Nov 10 1801 Minutes of Ordinary Court Jackson Co, Ga
"Upon the petition of David Kinzey stating to the court that he had made application to the clerk for a citation informing he had an intention to apply to this court of this term for Letters of Administration upon the estate of James Kinzey late of said county dec'd and it appearing to the court that notice had been given in the public gazetts of said state and nothing being said against the said application. It is ordered that letters of administration be granted to said David Kinzey on his complying with the requests of the law. "

July 25 1803 Jackson Co, Ga Ordinary Court
"David Kimzey administer of James Kimzey deceased presented his return as such which is allowed by the court and ordered to be entered in the record."
Jul 25 1803 Jacson Co Ga Probate p. 200
"Return of David Kimsey, admr. of James Kimzey dec'd--"I have on hand a note on Lawrence Briers payable Christmas 1804 for $50.00- David Kimzey being duly sworn oath that the above return is a just and thereof to the present term-/s/ David Kimzey

1793 Wilkes Co, Ga Tax List - Capt. James Luckie's District Col. Holman's
Dist:
#143 - Elizabeth Crowley, wd. 1 slave {mother of Littleberry Croley]
#145 - James Kimsey/Kimzey - 50 a. Shoal Creek, j/John Webb; 80 a.
Oconcee River j/ James Crowley [James Kimsey, son in law of Elizabeth Crowley
above; bro-in-law of Littleberry Croley]
#184 - Littleberry Crowley - defaulter (m. MARY GIBSON, dau of Randolph
Gibson & Mary Crowley, dau of Jeffrey)
#185 - William Crowley - defaulter (bro of Littleberry, son of Elizabeth
Strong Crowley
Children of James and Mary Crowley Kimzey
1. Samuel Crowley Kimsey b. 1783 Henry Co, Va d.7 Aug 1832 Jackson Co, Mo, m. 1805 Tennessee Rachel Townsend. Samuel KImzey is buried in Round Grove Cemetery. In 1838 Rachel marries Thomas Jones. Children: Temperance, Mary, John, Alvis, Rachel, Sarah Emeranda, Johnson, Thomas L.
Alis, Thomas, Sarah and John went to Oregon in 1849.

2. James Kimsey b 30 May 1784 Henry Co, Va, d 1862 Polk Co, Or, m. 25 Jiun 1805 Tn Hannah Jane McCracken. He is in the Brown Farmers Field. They went to Oregon in the Doctor Smith Train in 1847. He was also the first of 10 families to settle Jackson Co, MO in 1818. Only his first two children, Samueland Elizabeth , stayed in Missouri,with the rest traveling to Oregon. Children: Samuel, Mehala, Hilah,John F, Hulda, Achsah, Edna, Duffield (Duff), Anson, Edson Ross, Benjamin Franklin.

3. Elizabeth Kimsey b. 1788 Henry Co, Va, d. 1 Apr 1852 Platte Co, Mo. m 3 Jan 1805 Warren Co, Tn James Simpson. Children: Calvin, Wilford, Mary, Dillard, Nancy, Effaniah E, Lettie,Mary "Macy", Gille, Phanaba, Preston,

4. Soloman Kimsey 1790 Henry Co, Va, aft 1823 Howard Co, Mo, m. Mary Bradley 9 Jan 1821 Howard Co, Mo

5. Littleberry B Kimsey b. 21 Jan 191 Patrick Co, Va, d. 28 Sep 1858 Platte Co, Mo, buried Jewett Cemetery, m. Susannah Findley, children: James K, Louisa, Alfred, Alexander, Susannah, Hannah, Jasper, Elizabeth.

6. Benjamin F Kimsey b. 25 Apr 1794, d 26 Feb 1865 Platte Co, Mo, m. 2 Jan 1820 Howard Co, Mo, Elizabeth Morris daughter of Hammond and Margaret Morris. Children: Jackson Wallace, Elizabeth, Samuel, Sarah, Francis Marion, William DeKald, Melvina.

7.Thomas Kimsey b. 1797 Jackson Co, Ga, d. 12 Feb 1865 Carroll Twp, Platte, Mo. married Martha Morris 25 Dec 1821 Howard Co, Mo Children: Mary, Wade Hampton, Samuel C, Rachel T, Emeranda, David S, James, Benjamin F, William S,Martha.

8. Mary Kimsey 7 Jul 1797 Ga, d. 2 Feb 1858 Marion Co, Or Terr., m. 13 Nov 1813 Warren Co, Tn William Simpson. Children: Eleanor, Thomas Knigh, Benjamin Franklin, Harriett, Cassia,Mary Ann, Elizabeth, David V, Martha, James, William Barnett, John.

9. Eleanor Kimsey b. 1798 Jackson Co, MO, d 1840 Platte Co, Mo, m. Samuel Findley. Children: John, Ebenezer, Samuel, George Washington.

David Kimzey and Elizabeth

joykimsey — 2012-01-01 23:42:14Z

David Kimzey was born C. 1761. and Died between 1822 when he marries Mrs Nancy Kimzey and 1828 when he does not sign for his daughter to marry, his son James sings.
In the 1880's Peoria History book his son Robert B Kimzey says he is the third child of David and Elizabeth Kimzey. Her last name is unknown. Elizabeth dies between 1818 and 1820 in White Co, Il. The country lines in this area change almost every year early. They were living in the same place but the county line changes from White to Hamilton. There was a flu epidemic in the winter of 1818/1819 in White County and I belive Elizabeth and several children died at this time. They are in the household for the Illinois 1818 Census and not for the National 1820 census. We have found marrieage records for the rest in Livingston Co, Ky and Gallitan, White and Hamilton Counties in Illinois. Then in 1822 David Remarries. But they are not found by 1830.
We do not find David in 1778 when his father and brothers(James and Benjamin) take the oath of Alliegence. I believe he is not old enough. David moved quite a bit and a lot of the time the Crowley's and his brother James were not far away. In 1799 he goes to Jackson Co, Ga court to take care of a problem for his brother James, who had died.
His last four children were born in Jackson Co Ga which is just east of Atlanta. The Children before that were born in South Carolina. About 1809 he moves to Tennesse to be with James, his brothers, children. By 1812 he has moved to Livingston Co, Ky and by 1816 across the river into Illinois. Two of his son's stay in Livingston Co, Ky(now Crittenden.)
In the 1805 Cheokee Ga land lottery he had a draw but did not recieve any land. It was the later lotteries that were given to Revolutionary soldiers.

Children of David and Elizabeth Kimzey
1. Abigail Kimzey c. 1780 Henry Co, Va D. aft 1840 Springfield, Henry Co, Mo. Abigail married William Crowley
Abt 1806 Georgia. Children are Littleberry, Daniel C, Elizabeth, Jeremaih, Esquire, Samuel, William, Abigail, Benjamin Franklin.

2. Elizabeth Kimzey b c. 1784 d. bef 1810 Jackson Co, Ga

3. Robert Boyd Kimzey 22 Feb 1787 NC d 31 Aug 1881 Logan, Peoria, Il m Mary Loyd 25 Aug 1820 Livingston Co, Ky. Both Buried Pleasant Grove Cemetery. Children are: Elizabeth Emmeline, William Francis, Isaac Newton, Mary Matilda, Abigail Adeline, Hiram Wesley, Thomas Cottingham, Altimira Jane, Lydia Margaret, Enoch Casey, Nancy Ellen, Sarah Emily.

4. Benjamin Kimzey b. 1791 NC d. 1804 Jackson Co, Ga

5. James Campbell Kimzey b. 1790 Abbeville, Sc, d. 7 Feb 1851 Perry Co, Il, m first 4 Oct 1813 Livingston Co, Ky to Elizabeth Hill, dau/Of Ephram Hill and Ann Holiday, Children: John Alexander, Elizabeth Ann, Ephraim Robinson, James Campbell, On 9 Apr 1822 he marries Elizabeth Mary Armstong, daughter of Alexander Armstrong, Children are: Nancy Jane, Alexander Armstrong, William Hamilton, Matilda Ann, Humphrey E, Benjamin M.

6. Elijah Hamilton Kimzey abt 1792 NC d. abt 1830 Hamilton Co,Illinois m. Nancy Proctor 23 Dec 1816 Gallitan Co, IL. Children are Mary, John B, Benjamin

7. Mary Kimzey b 18 Sep 1794 Burke Co, Now Buncombe, d. 1866 Peoria, Ill, m 19 Aug 1816 Hector Elijah McAlister. both buried Pleasant Grove Cemetery. Children: James, Archibald, Enos f, Mary, Elijah, Male, Sarah.

8. Eleanor Kimzey b. abt 1796 d 1819 White Co, Il

9. Francis Kimzey b. 1797 d. 1819 White Co, Il

10. David Kimzey 1798 Beaufort Co, SC d. Jan 1866 Crittenden Co, Ky, m. 25 may 1818 Livingston Co, Ky Elizabeth W Hamilton b. 1799 Knox, Co, Tn d. Jul 1881 Cowley Co, Ky Buried Brookshire Cemetery with her daughter. Children are:
James H, William Franklin, Mary Elizabeth, Patrick Kelly, John C, Isaac W, Susan M, David W, Pressley B, Narcissa, Frederick, Ephraim H.

11. Margaret Kimzey b c. 1800 Buncombe Co, NC, d. bef 1840 Scott Co, Ill. M. Andrew Henry Billings 16 Jan 1823 Hamilton Co, Il. Children Unknown

12. Thomas Kimzey b. c. 1801 Ga d. 1819 White Co, GA

13. Rebecca Jane Kimzey c. 1802 SC d. 1846 Saline Co, Il
m Blewford Richey 9 Aug 1821 Hamilton Co, IL. Children James, Charlotte, female.

14. Rachel E Kimzey 1804 Jackson Co, Ga, d. aft 1800 Fremont Co, Ia. Little Page Hiatt 1 Mar 1825 Hamilton Co, Il. Children: Mary Ann, Jesse, Elijah, John J, William Kimzey, James, Nancy Jane.

15. William Boyd Kimzey b. 4 Apr 1805 Jackson Co, Ga d. 24 Feb 1883, m. 23 Dec 1830 Hamilton Co, Il Elizabeth Proctor.
Children: Mary Ann, Lydia A, Susan Elizabeth, John Wesley,Kezia, Joel Lee, Rachel, Eura, Matilda, Jane.

16. John Campbell Kimzey b. 4 mar 1806, d. 9 aug 1891 Milo, Liberty, Ia, m. 12 Dec 1824 Hamilton Co, Il Susanna McNamer, Children: Elizabeth, James, Jerimiah McNamer, Robert William, John H, Zerelda, Lydia Louise, Thomas Ewell, Azuba Caroline.

17. Matilda Kimzey b. 16 Jan 1807 Jackson Co, Ga, d. 22 Mar 1831 Livingston Co, Ky, m. 18 Jan 1828 Samuel Armstrong. Children: Mary Ann, Alexander, Vinny T.

Thomas Kimzey and Anna Nancy McClure

joykimsey — 2012-01-01 21:59:30Z

Thomas shows he is 80 in the 1850 Census of Macon Co, NC. He marries Ann "Nancy" Mcclure 21 Mar 1791 Burke Co, NC.
He was a Deacon with the Franklin, Macon Co church and later a minister.

1850 Census
Thomas Kimzey 80 1769 Virginia Male Tennessee Valley, Macon, NC
Nancy Kimzey 74 1775 North Carolina Female Tennessee Valley, Macon, NC
Elisha Kimzey 32 1817 Buncombe Male Tennessee Valley, Macon, NC

However, by 1822, Thomas and family had moved into the Cherokee Purchase lands, as evidenced by his appearance in the minutes of the First Baptist Church in Franklin, Macon Co. NC. At the founding meeting on May 4, 1822, Elder Humphrey Posey is listed as pastor; deacons, Thomas Kimsey and James Bryson; trustees, Luke Barnet, Thomas Kimsey and James Poteet. Nancy Kimsey is listed as a female member of the church.[Note: The minutes are unpublished.]

In 1830, Thomas appears in the Macon Co. NC census, listed as m. 50-60. Sons John, William and James are near by.

In 1840, he is also on the Macon Co. census, p. 150, listed as m.50-60, 1 m. 20-30, and 1 f. 50-60. On the same census are James and John.

Thomas appears on the 1850 Macon Co. NC Agricultural Schedule, p. 24. He is listed as having: Farm, 50 improved, 90 unimproved acres. Farm value $600. Implements, $100, livestock value $400(4 horses, 1 ass/mule, 4 milch cows, 4 other cattle, 16 sheep, 12 swine) Produce: 15 bu. wheat, 600 bu. Indian corn, 200 bu. oats, 30 lbs. wool. 15 bu. sweet potatoes, 50 lbs. butter. Home manufacture, $50. Animals slaughtered, $40.

Thomas and Nancy last appear on the 1850 Macon Co. census, with Thomas listed as age 80, b. in VA, Nancy as 74, b. NC. Son Elisha, 32, is in the household.

Neither Thomas nor Nancy appears on the 1860 census. It is assumed that Nancy died before 1860, and that Thomas died abt. 1860. This is based on a deed, filed in 1860, in which Thomas and Nancy's children sign their inherited land over to youngest brother, Elisha.

It is believed that Thomas and Nancy are buried in the original cemetery used by the First Baptist Church, on Iola St. in Franklin, but no grave markers have been found.

Children of Thomas and Nancy:
1. Infant born 1792

2. Female b. 1794 Macon Co, NC

3. William Kimzey b 1 Nov 1796 Burke Co, NC d. 17 Jul 1887 Polk Co, Tn, m. Anne Crawford 6 Sep 1817 Haywood Co, NC. Children: Thomas Gilmore, George C, John D, James Biars, Humphrey Posey, Sarah Ann, Mary Ann, Margaret Anna, Nancy Amanda, William Jephiah, Harriet Hamilton.

4.John Kimsey b. 5 Jan 1800 Burke Co, NC, d Jul 1886 Macon Co, NC, Married 22 Oct 1819 Jackson Co, NC Elizabeth Ann Rabun. Children are: Thomas Judson, Hodge Rabun, Nancy McClure, James Jephthiah, William Calloway, Willis Jasper, Elisha Leander, Amanda Aminta, Constance Adela, Deliah Ann, Edith Louise.

5. James G Kimsey 23 Dec 1903 Haywood Co, NC, d 12 Apr 1870 Clay co, NC, m. Sarth Ruth Russell 18 Nov 1823 Haywood Co, NC. Children: MathewRussel, Annie, Elizabeth Ann, Martha Jane, Mary Rebecca, Thomas, Nancy A, Joseph Anderson, Sarah Lou, James G, William Simpson. james married second Mary Milissa Parker.

6.Mary "Polly" Kimsey b. 5 jul 1806 Buncombe Co, NC,d 27 Feb 1876, m about 1821 NC, John Mc Connell. Children William Ross, Elijah Marion, Irene Anne, Thomas Newton, Sarah, Charles Bingley, James Mortimer, Joseph Judson, John Layland, Elisha Washington.

7. David Kimsey b 1810 NC, d 1863 Towns Co, Ga, m. 18 May 1847 Union Co, GaSarah Angeline, both buried Brasstown Cemetery. Children: Margaret, Marcia Llewellen, Emily Minerva, James Jared, Marshall Pinson, Henry Clay, Laura A. He married second Ann McClure 19 May 1831 Macon Co, NC. Children: William, Joseph and two girls

8. Elijah H Kimsey 4 Feb 1812 Buncombe Co, NC d.7 May 1896 Habersham Co, Ga, married Sarah Bryson about 1830. Children:
William Washington, Thomas Jefferson, David P, Nancy E, Amanda Z, Josiah T, Arminta Caroline, Elisha Hedden, Sarah Thodocia.

9. Elisha Leander Kimsey b. 22 Aug 1816 Buncombe Co, NC, d. 10 Jul 1862 Prentiss, Nc, m. Margaret A Phillips 31 Aug 1851 Macon Co, NC. Children: Charles Robert, Arnetta Elmira, William Benjamin Thomas, James Leander, Sarah Elizabeth>

Children of Agnes Lane and Benjamin Jr Kimzey

joykimsey — 2012-01-01 17:01:19Z

1. William F Kimzey b. 23 Feb 1783 Henry Co, Va d. Jan 1865, Trion, Chattooga Co, Ga, m. Rebecca Williamson 7 Mar 1805 NC Ch: Sarah Reid, Elijah Williamson, John Mann, Rachel Rebecca, Joshua Taylor, Anatacia, Malinda C, Thomas Rhodes, William Wiley, James Gardiner, Mary, Humphrey Posey.

2. Benjamin E Kimzey 24 Feb 1784 Henry Co, Va, d. 29 May 1849 Jefferson, Johnson, Mo, m. Mary Parr 1804 NC
Children: James, Thomas, Nancy, Watson, Samuel Parr, Elizabeth, John Anderson, William Jackson, Soloman, Newton, Missouri Ann, Isaac William

3.David Kimzey b 12 Nov 1785 d bef 1830 Tn

4.Elizabeth Betsy Kimzey b. 25 Oct 1786 Henry Co, Va, about 1809 m. 1805 Elijah McCrary

5. Mary Britinna Kimzey b. 31 Dec 1790d bef Jan 1828 Clay Co, Mo, m. John P Marr, Children Eliza, Mahala, Elizabeth, William T, Kimsey, Lewis, Lucy Ann, Nancy Jane

6.Anna Nancy Kimzey b. 4 May 1793 Patrick C, Va d 5 May 1858 Bedford Co, Tn., m. Robert C Daniel 1812
Children: Hiram, Benjamin K, Thomas K, James A, Mary P, William M, Humphrey Posey Kimzey,Soloman K, CK, Robert C, Elizabeth M, Robert W.

7. Hiram Kimzey 3 Janq 1797 Patrick Co, Va, d. 1832 Clay Co, Mo, no issue

8. Rev Soloman Kimzey b. 25 Feb 1799 d. Jul 1860 Maries Co, Mo m. Mary "Polly" Braley Children: Nancy D, Finis E, Samuel Phineas, Hiram, Mathew William, Elijah McCuary, Elizabeth. Anderson S, Robert D. Children of Soloman and his second wife Amiable Elizabeth Isbell was William Thomas.

9. Rev Thomas Morris Kimzey 19 May 1802 Buncombe Co, NC d. 1 May 1864 White Co, Ga, m Martha "Patsy" Bowen and Eveline Stover
Children of Thomas and Patsy are: Elvira Ray, Satriah J, Tirzah J, William Posey, Isaac Benjamin, Thomas Hunt, Agnes P,
Children of Thomas and Eveline Stover: Sarha M H, Rebecca E, Adeline C, James Polk, John Johnson, Georgia Ann, Singleton Mell, Henry D, Mary Louise.

10. Humphrey Posey Kimzey b 22 Jan 1804 Buncombe Co, NC d. 11 Aug 1858 Bedford Co, Tn, m 22 Feb 1825 Bedford Co, Tn to Margaret Euless. Children: Sarah, Mary, Ellen Perlina, Hiram Milton, Agnes Eveline, Charlotte, Nancy Caroline, Angelina, Julia, Benjamin A, James P, Zachariah Taylor.

Re: Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-01 16:35:30Z

my database at rootsweb

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

Benjamin Jr Kimzey born c. 1755 and Agnes Lane

joykimsey — 2012-01-01 16:33:24Z

Benjamin Jr was born about 1755 and died in Buncombe Co, NC 1808. He married Agnes Lane about 1781 since their first child was born in 1783. Agnes married second Joseph Long 14 Dec 1814 Buncombe Twp, Beaufort Co, NC She was born 25 Jan 1767 and died after 1850 where we find Agnes Long (age 85, should be age 81) in Bedford Co Tn in the home of her daughter Nancy Daniel.
The story of the bible goes, the Kimzey bible was dropped in the River at they were going to Tennessee. So the Kimsey/Kimzey information was written into the Joseph Long bible.
(David' date 1782 was crossed and written 1783)(i've put him at 1785 but who knows?) All put the children too close together. (We have not been able to trace This Davids Line
so any help appreciated.

William 23 Feb 1783
Benjamin 24 Feb 1784
David 12 Nov 1785
Betsey 31 Oct 1786
Mary 31 dec 1790
Nancy 4 May 1793
Hiram 3 Jan 1797
Solomon 21 Feb 1799
Thomas 19 May 1802
Humphrey 26 Mar 1805

Buncombe County Court Records, 1st Monday of April 1808, page 394
" Agness Kimsey and William Kimzey came in and prayed to administer the estate of Benjamin Kimsey, deceased. After entering into bond and approved security to wit Bazil B Edmundson & William Fletcher, bound in eight hundred pounds Ordered that letters of Admin. issue accordingly, issue sworn"

October 1808
Notice is hereby given to all persons who have cany claims against the estate of Benjamin Kimsey, deceased, that administration has been granted to Agness Kimsey and William Kimsey and that such persons are hereby notified to prepare their claims and demands within the time by law directed otherwise they may expect to be barred. April 7 1808 /s/Agness Kimsey, William Kimsey, Administrators

October 1808
State of North Carolina, Buncombe Co. Be it known to all persons that on the 2nd day of May ensuing at the house of the intestate Benjamin Kimsey will be sold at public vendue,the personal estate of Benjamin Kimsey, deceased, consisting of horses, cattle , hogs, a wagon, a quantity of bacon and number of other articles. The sale will commence at 10 o'clock continue until all is sold. Twelve months credit will be given by th purchaser giving bond and approved security attendance will be given by Agness and William Kimsey

Buncombe County Court Records October 1808 page 420
"Inventory of the Estate of Ben Kimsey, deceased was returned into Court oby Agnes & William Kimsey, Admx and admr as follows to wit
Cash$9.36,
Two negroes, one a wench of 20 year of age the other a boy of 16 years, subject to a mortgage of five hundred dollars, four head of horses, of a middling kind five cows, four calves, one three year old steer , three heifers, fifteen hogs, one waggon 1197 lbs of bacon, one log chain, one of gears, three bee stands, one saw, one cutting box, one qun, one gunbarrel, 25 lb of sugar, one pair of saddle bags, one set of waggon boxes ,one saddle, one pair of stretchers, one dresser of funiture, two beds, one pot, one oven, one fry pan, one tray, five chairs, two churns, one table, one sieve,, One pot rack, one Bookcase, one coffee pot, two pair of card, 5 bells, one wedge, 2 plows, 4 hoes, 2 axes, one loom, one umbrella, one pocket compass, one inkstand, one trunk, one pan, 3 reap hooks, 16 horse shoes, one hammer, one cowhide, 4 iron hooks, one mill, 2 barrels, 3 pair of bridle bits and one razor
one note of Thomas Fletcher 6.52
one note of Benjamin kimsey 2.50
one note of Thomas Jordon 43.00
One judgement on Solomon Israel 50.00
one judgement on john Brooks 3.92
Amount of Sales of the estate of Benjamin Kimsey, deceased, returned into court by Agnes and William Kimsey, Administratorys:
Amount of sales: $1,382.46
Notes and judgements 105.96
Cash on hand 9.86
total 1,498.28

My database at rootsweb in

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&d...

Benjamin Kimsey/Kimzey I b. 1725 descent

joykimsey — 2012-01-01 16:12:09Z

Benjamin Kimsey was born c. 1725 England, I do not have any records to prove who he was born to or where. I do believe it was England. If anyone has records please let me know
We have some old letters that say that he was married to Margaret Gragg and that is what Colette and Edgar thought( they did Kimsey/Kimzey genealogy for over 50 Years, now both dead). The Margaret Gragg, daughter of John Gragg and Nancy Ann Woods, appears to have married someone else, so at this time Wife of Benjamin I Kimzey is unknown.

We do know that Benjamin Kimsey had an older brother William. They were living in Hampshire Co Va (now West Virginia). And they were right accross the river from Maryland which confirms the Lord Baltimore country. William dies in 1778 and he leaves his property" to my brother Benjamin's son Benjamin". Since everything used to go to the elsest son, I am surmising that Benjamin jr, son of Benjamin I is the eldest child of Benjamin I. (Later on we find this land going to Benjamin Jr's oldest son William who sells it)

All of the land in Augusta Co Va early on went all the way to the Mississippi river. So a large piece of land called Augusta Co, Va. Henry county was formed out of August in
1776 and after that we find the Kimsey/Kimzey's in Henry and then when that county splits in 1790 we find them in Patrick Co, Va. Some of the family go to North Carolina early, but Francis Posey, Benjamin I and Benjamin II go to North Carolina about 1797.

Children of Benjamin I are:
1. Benjamin born c. 1755 d. 1808 m. Agnes Lane
2. William b. c 1756 d. bef 1778
3. James b.c. 1758 d. 1799 married Mary Crowley
4. Hannah b. 1759 d.31 May 1834 m. William Posey
5. Franklin b. c. 1760 bef 1790
6. David b. 1761 d. 1828 m. Elizabeth Unknown
7. Mary b. 1765 d. aft 1810 m. Francis Posey
8. Thomas b. 1770 d. aft 1860 m. Anna Nancy McClure

Re: Kimsey - Polk Co., Tennessee

satter3380 — 2011-10-10 19:01:27Z

If you are still searching for Kimsey/Kimzey's, please contact me.

Re: Kimsey arriving in America

joykimsey — 2011-07-26 17:40:14Z

about every 5 years someone goes to Scotland to prove the story passed down, but they always come back in the negative. Go to Scotland and see what you can find. Or find the ships records showing where they are from.That has not been found yet.
There are some Kimsey's that came to New Jersey that were English Quakers and There are some Kimsey's living in England today. There were also some from England that came to Illinois about 1880.
about 25 years ago someone had a professional genealogist in Scotland look and they also turned up nothing.
Good luck

Re: Kimsey arriving in America

Lyncoya — 2011-07-24 19:24:05Z

I think you have something there. Not much of a stretch to go from MacKenzie to Kimzey, Kimsey, Kinsey. I worked on another line of mine, the Kennedys from Scotland and they were O'Kennedy and MacKennedy and originated as de Carrick (a region they were from), so this is the best link to Scotland I have seen anything posted on here!

That was great that you had that dagger to connect to Scotland! Loved your post!

Re: Kimsey arriving in America

Lyncoya — 2011-07-24 19:19:54Z

I found her on here listed as McGregg.

Re: Kimsey arriving in America

Lyncoya — 2011-07-24 19:19:13Z

I read somewhere they were McKimsey, although most Scots spelled their "mics" MacWhatever. I am a Kimsey/Kinsey descendant too. Working on my line in connection with the Gibsons of Tennessee. My branch changed their surname to Kinsey and ended up in Middle Tennessee.

KIMSEYS OF SCOTLAND

Lyncoya — 2011-07-24 19:16:11Z

I read somewhere they were McKimsey from Scotland,although most "mics" are spelled MacWhatever. I am a descendent of the Kimseys/Kinseys too.

Re: Kimsey arriving in America

livelydonna — 2011-07-18 13:18:32Z

Benjamin may have not been a Scottish name, but how do you
explain a Benjamin in the long, long line of Mackintosh
(McIntosh). He was born 1686 and died 1740. He was the only one but he was Scottish? My mother is a Kimsey, and I
have been watching this banter over Scottish names and if it
happened in a line like Mackintosh, it can happen in anybody's line. A Mackintosh came with the Scottish Rangers aand settled in Georgia in 1739, I believe....

Re: KIMSEY SURNAME

livelydonna — 2011-07-01 20:47:15Z

My mother is a Kimsey, only way she has ever know, her father always told her he was Scotch-Irish. Ofter the time
of the Jcaobite Uprisings, and the Scottish Convenanter
maybe a Scottish person would name their child a Bible
name like Benjamin. My quess is to read books the the
Jacobite Uprising and look for names of people involved, see
if you get any clues that way.
My dad's name is Herren. Was looking for his name to change
after crossing back over into the British Isles. The name
changed in the states. Heron is the correct way....Keep
looking, you will find the answer....Research is a hugh job,
and I keep waiting for someone to tell me maybe I made a mistake.....our ancestors certainly could have kept better
records, they just think that no one in the future cares, that was my 93 year old granny thought....

KIMSEY/KINSEY LINE

Lyncoya — 2011-06-18 18:46:17Z

I am related and would like to learn more about this line. What I really want to clarify is their surname KIMSEY or KINSEY? My great-great-great-great grandfather was William Kimsey born November 7, 1796 in Macon, Buncombe, North Carolina. I may be reached @ lyncoya2002@yahoo.com or on Facebook as Leslie Garrett DeLorenzo or via phone (931) 223-8781. Thanks! Leslie DeLorenzo

Re: Ducktown TN Polk Co. Pumping Station

cfuller00 — 2011-05-15 00:09:03Z

Yes it was originally a small college that was started in that area.

KIMSEY Donald W - Vietnam Wall section 18W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-02-10 23:27:43Z

KIMSEY Donald W - Vietnam Wall section 18W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 219,139 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: french connections ?

petetherunner1 — 2010-08-23 18:09:11Z

I found that very interesting,many thanks .
Peter

Re: french connections ?

kmzgirl13 — 2010-08-23 15:36:47Z

“Creole” and “French Creole”:
I copied and pasted the following because creole can mean many things and it confuses me too! Keep in mind, Dad was referring to a grandma born in the 1800's. I am thinking french mixed with black or he would have said french? Just for clarification, I am white, supposedly.

Just look up “Creole” in a dictionary and you’ll get several very distinct definitions.

Our uses:

Creole - people of color with light skin, often of African and French descent.
French Creole - Caucasian people descended from some of the first Europeans to arrive in New Orleans.

The evolution of the word “Creole”
The Portuguese used the word “crioulo” (meaning “native to the locality”) to refer to individuals of African descent born into slavery in the colonies – to distinguish them from those recently enslaved and transported from Africa. Legal documents from the 18th century in Louisiana indicate that the word Creole was used in Louisiana with the same meaning – enslaved Africans born in the New World.

Later legal documents indicate that descendants of early European colonists in Louisiana began to refer to themselves as “Creoles” – apparently building on the “colonial-born” connotation of the word. They did this to distinguish themselves from Europeans just arriving in New Orleans.

Later, the term Creole helped distinguish these established New Orleanians from Americans who arrived in droves after Louisiana’s admission to the union in 1812. Just to reduce confusion, we’ll call these descendents of early European settlers “French Creole” although some descendents of early Spanish settlers called themselves “Creole” as well.

Currently, Creole is the name of the language spoken by Haitians. This fact is not insignificant given the tremendous influence of Haiti on New Orleans. It is estimated that immediately following the “slave uprising” in Haiti which liberated that country from French colonialism, so many Haitians of all ethnic backgrounds migrated to New Orleans that by 1810 the population of New Orleans was approximately 1/3 white, 1/3 enslaved Africans, and 1/3 free people of color, most of who had come from Haiti.

Before the Civil War these free people of color enjoyed considerably higher social status than enslaved Africans. In fact, many of them owned enslaved Africans. After the Civil War, all people of color were categorized together for the first time. This amounted to a significant social demotion for many people whose families were free persons of color prior to the war. They were suddenly denied access to networks and resources (such as education and capital) that had previously been available to them.

Because these descendents of free people of color primarily lived in the city where racial intermingling took place, many of them had a lighter skin color. Jim Crow laws reinforced the importance of skin color by declaring that anyone with at least one black great-grandparent (known as an "octoroon") was technically "colored.” So people with lighter skin began to use the term Creole to distinguish themselves from the darker skinned “colored” people.

Today in New Orleans, “Creole” is commonly used to describe a person of color with light skin who can trace their family history in the city back for generations.

Re: french connections ?

petetherunner1 — 2010-08-23 14:23:01Z

Hi being a brit.I dont no anything about creole people

Re: french connections ?

kmzgirl13 — 2010-08-23 14:17:37Z

Just remembered that Dad (1914-2007)said he had a creole grandmother.(I had asked him why all the pictures of Kimzeys I found were dark skinned for a suppose to be white person.) I think this was suppose to be a family secret. He grinned sheepishly.

Re: french connections ?

petetherunner1 — 2010-08-23 14:14:04Z

Hallo kmzgirl13
When you think so little is documented on the Kimsey name before the 17th century ,it makes you wonder ,a notice was put on the kimsey family tree on ancestry some time ago that the name derives from swizaland,which is very close to france ,!!
Regards Peter [ London ]

Re: french connections ?

kmzgirl13 — 2010-08-23 13:55:54Z

My father, his two children (self included) and all 3 of my children have a mediterranean blood disorder. It is called beta thalasemia minor. We cannot donote blood because we have this permanent anemia. Dad was type O. We are all A. I have been told that we look french, lol. You have raised an interesting question that I have wondered about myself.

french connections ?

petetherunner1 — 2010-08-21 15:22:02Z

Hallo
I am a reguler blood doner,and a while back I attended my doner clinic ,waiting my turn, I browsed through a booklet given out buy the doner nurses ,it exsplained what parts of the world the different types of blood came from ,it told me that my blood type AB came from French gypsies in the 12th century ,now when you think of the invasion of England by the French [ Normans ]in the late 11th century also our friend Baggygenes1 imformation that there was a John De Kimsey [ very French ] in England in 1316 it is quite plousable ,any thoughts on the subject
Regards Peter

LEWIS Karen Paige KIMSEY 1966-2004

t42MountOlivet — 2010-08-12 12:40:40Z

LEWIS Karen Paige KIMSEY 1966-2004

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 216,340 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Ducktown TN Polk Co. Pumping Station

bfloxword — 2010-07-17 20:24:36Z

We noticed while driving into town from the north, a brick pumping station near the RR tracks with the header reading "Kimsey Pumping Station"

Re: Thomas Kimsey bible record?

ketcaudell21 — 2010-07-09 23:59:02Z

I would love to see the Thomas Kimsey Bible records.

Re: James Kimsey/Hanna McCracken

ketcaudell21 — 2010-07-08 19:24:01Z

Grandma & Grandpa Kimsey were my maternal great grandparents. I would love to talk with you. You can contact me here on ancestry, or my regular email is ketcaudell@gmail.com.

Re: James Kimsey/Hanna McCracken

gritmailboxmail — 2010-07-08 02:09:37Z

My matenal grandparents are James Henry Kimsey and Susan Savannah English. My mom has put together some family history. I would like to share our family history.

Re: Kimseys and Kimzeys in the Civil War

jeozeran — 2010-07-02 01:43:08Z

Leonidas O Kimsey (Oregon - Union) and James W Kimsey (Missouri - Confederate) were first cousins. Their fathers John F and Samuel respectively were sons of James Kimsey II and Hannah McCracken. Samuel was the only son of James and Hannah who did not go west to the Oregon Territory.

Re: Kimseys and Kimzeys in the Civil War

jeozeran — 2010-07-02 01:28:03Z

Thanks, but please verify details for yourself! I'm not intentionally careless, but I'm sure there are transcription errors/typos.