Kirkpatrick - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: John Kirkpatrick

dutchgalncal11 — 2012-05-19 03:19:57Z

well, 9 yrs later, I'm going to chime in here. I have always wondered what Kirkpatrick was doing on John Cessna's farm and wondered if somehow there wasn't a family connection. Supposedly our Frenchman, Jean de Cesne, was supposed to have married an 'Irish' girl so I have often wondered if she wasn't a Kirkpatrick. Another thing; Jonathan Cessna, son of John Cessna of Shippensburg, married Mary Friend and they ended up moving into Kentucky where he is said to have died fighting the Indians near Boonesboro. I read on a blog about the Friend sisters and how they were all in Kentucky and how one of them was married to a Kirkpatrick and that they all came down the Ohio river with Mary and Jonathan Cessna. Again, placing a Kirkpatrick near a Cessna. It would make sense to me as my line of Cessna's were very intermarried in Western Kentucky. Just never know but I have always wondered about this connection. And here I am reading Cessna blogs and the Kirkpatricks show up again. It's got to be fate!!!

Edwin Saunders and Margaret Kirkpatrick

elainegcook — 2012-05-09 03:09:52Z

I'm looking for the birth place of Edwin Saunders, husband of Margaret Kirkpatrick. They settled in Goderich, Ontario where my grandfather, Jabez William Saunders, was born. They left for the U. S. A. in 1873 and settled in Bay City, MI. If you have any information on either one, please let me know. In understand that Margaret was from Dublin, Ireland. She died and was buried in Duluth, MN.

Kirkpatrick's in Florida, Texas and Louisianna or Barnes

leemakeelo — 2012-05-03 13:45:26Z

My husbands family does not seem to have a lot of info to share, but the 'dry' pedigree. His dad passed on, and his only uncle does not know much other than the one page pedigree he shared with us.

We want to find out as accurately as possible who is ancestors are, where they lived, what they did.

This we know to be accurate:
John Davis Kirkpatrick
Birth 7 Nov 1856 in South Carolina, United States
Death 2 Sep 1924 in Campground Methodist Church, Winston County Mississippi

Re: James Kirkpatrick married Margaret Cauthers

wjdarkesr — 2012-04-30 14:35:39Z

did james have any brothers who came to mulmer with him,my kirkpatricks left ire 1835,ended up in mulmer,lived next door .ontario records show birth of children.thanks

Re: Kirkpatrick Family of Dumfries, Scotland Part of Clan Colquhoun?

joannebabyray — 2012-04-29 15:02:19Z

hi my name is joanne my grandad come from dumfries his name is alex kirkpatrick

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

bridget4444 — 2012-04-28 17:03:59Z

Use his social security number to find more info. The form gives lots of info, if you go to rootsweb, you can ask for the original form of his social security info.

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

kirkys26 — 2012-04-28 15:54:36Z

thank you bridgett found his date of death on familysearch as being 13th January 2003 aged 99 ,its a pity i was not doing a family tree a few years back as I would maybe be able to have had contact with him,see if I can find any living relatives now ,
regards sandra

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

bridget4444 — 2012-04-27 19:34:08Z

Look through the Dearborn cemeteries on findagrave.com, around the zip code that is provided. I will try to do some more searching for awhile today. My direct email is slade.b2822@gmail.com, send me info on there if you want. It is easier for me to ck my email.
Thanks
Bridget

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

bridget4444 — 2012-04-27 19:25:30Z

first name: Thomas
middle name:
last name: Kirkpatrick
name suffix:
birth date: 21 March 1904
social security number: 363-30-5311
place of issuance: Michigan
last residence: Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan
zip code of last residence: 48126
death date: 13 January 2003
estimated age at death: 99

Here is his social security number. Go to rootsweb.com, type it in. Familysearch.org, my mistake not .com

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

bridget4444 — 2012-04-27 19:03:43Z

You can also try searching family trees on this site. Type in Kirkpatrick and look through them for a name that is one of yours, I have done that many times and found connections.

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

bridget4444 — 2012-04-27 19:00:07Z

Have you tried familysearch.com, it is a Mormon site, free, lots of info, this site also has death certificates you can print off. You can also try findagrave.com has cemeteries, pictures of headstones with names.
Best of luck in searching.
Bridget in Michigan

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

kirkys26 — 2012-04-27 17:54:25Z

hi Bridgett,Thank you for your help,I have looked at white pages and found a Thomas Kirkpatrick aged 108 so must have been him the only relative I can find for him is a Ann kirkpatrick which possibly was his wife,we live in the uk but I am looking at other possible kirkpatricks in Dearborn to see if we have any living relatives .I wrote to the churches in Dearborn as one destination he went to was a Father Norman Robes detroit (maybe a priest) but had no reply as yet and do have this info here ,

Last Residence: 48126 Dearborn, Wayne, Michigan, United States of America
Born: 21 Mar 1904
Died: 13 Jan 2003

this is our Thomas birth date so must be him.let you know what else I can find out .
regards sandra

Re: Irene Kirkpatrick Warren Amarillo, TX 1905-1992

Starstater1 — 2012-04-20 19:42:53Z

I think I can help ---I live in amarillo, and IRene was my aunt----- I am from teh Warren Gains blood line.

Re: Descendants of William Kirkpatrick of Conheath in Dumfriesshire, Scotland

DavidR532 — 2012-04-20 03:08:12Z

Hello, Yes I am still interested. Some of my family papers say that one of my ancestors, Adam Harkness, married Jannet (or Janet), a daughter of William Kirkpatrick - one of his 19 children. I think this is probably a myth, but I am still interested is clearing up the matter.
David Robinson

Kirkpatrick

Kym_hunto9 — 2012-04-20 01:21:01Z

I am looking for any information for a Beryl Kirkpatrick and son Edwin Howard Kirkpatrick. He was my dad. I found out he was born in Michigan. Not sure where. Beryl went to Michigan to work. My dad was born in 11/1945.

Re: William Kirkpatrick

colincarlin244 — 2012-04-19 20:14:35Z

Ailidh
I have not yet come acoss any Gilchrists among descendents of William Kirkpatrick. Can you give me a date for the earliest Gilchrists you have and their county or town and perhaps we can make progress.
There were many Kirkpatricks leaving Dumfrieshire over many generations. Many, but not all, of these may connect somewhere to Closeburn or Conheath or the small towns around Dumfries. But many of the connections to the original line are so ancient or so scattered that only a clan type connection is now possible.
Have you got documents from the lawyer or what did he say was the link? Colin Carlin

Re: Descendants of William Kirkpatrick of Conheath in Dumfriesshire, Scotland

ailidhtodd3 — 2012-04-19 19:44:18Z

Hi, are you still looking for decendants of William Kirkpatrick? I am from the line that goes through the Gilchrists and Todds and most of us still live in Scotland. I think I have the tree somewhere if you are still looking?
Thanks,
Ailidh

Re: William Kirkpatrick

ailidhtodd3 — 2012-04-19 19:31:55Z

Hello,
My name is Ailidh and I am a decendant of William Kirkpatrick on my dad's side. I was given a family tree him when I was younger as I was (and still am) interested in my history and he got it from his lawyer so I know it is right. I can't seem to find it anywhere however and wanted to know if you have anything that goes down to the Gilchrists?
Thank you,
Ailidh

Re: William Kirkpatrick

ailidhtodd3 — 2012-04-19 19:26:57Z

Hi,
This is such a late reply to your original post I don't even know if you are still looking!!
My name is Ailidh and I remember my dad giving me a family tree once when I was wee, and I've been interested in my history ever since. I'm only 22 now but I know I am a decendant of William Kirkpatrick on my dad's side. I have just been rooting around my flat trying to find the tree but can't seem to just now but I will see if I can get a copy. Are you still interested in finding the tree? It goes right back to Empress Eugenie and beyond by another generation or two...
Best Wishes,
Ailidh

Re: Lizzie, Emma, Mary KIRKPATRICK, Cedar Rapids Iowa

sherrymarine — 2012-03-19 17:49:25Z

I tried to send the pic via this site but it did not work. Please contact me at:

racepro@thegrid.net

Sherry, CA

Re: Lizzie, Emma, Mary KIRKPATRICK, Cedar Rapids Iowa

DFarrens51 — 2012-03-19 06:54:42Z

I would like to see these picture of Kirkpatrick as that is where my Gr-Grandparents were from, okay and what really struck me is the names which my Gr-Grand is Mary too, HUMMM !

Re: Help Find Kirkpatrick!!!

DFarrens51 — 2012-03-19 06:52:07Z

You do know if you'd Google newpaper's of Colo, that you'd bring up alot of hit's in that time era, and then look for female birth in your time not her's okay, Just a Thought

Re: Help Find Kirkpatrick!!!

Angelkirkpatrick — 2012-03-19 05:53:57Z

No she was 15 when she had me.
Thanx for ur help!!!
Angel

Re: Help Find Kirkpatrick!!!

DFarrens51 — 2012-03-19 04:57:38Z

Well, she is From Colo. and you were born in Colo, I would asked for the birth record or better yet check and see if there are hospital's on line with list of birth's on your day and another Idea the LDS church there in Colo may have your information and I take it that she (mom) wasn't married?
D.

Linking Joseph Milton Kilpatrick (1766 to Donald Kirk(patrick) of Scotland (~800AD)

heidilee2000 — 2012-02-20 19:44:44Z

My geneology ends with Joseph Milton Kilpatrick in North Carolina in 1766, and jumps to 800AD to Donald Kirk (then to Kirkpatrick). Then son or grandson Ivone Kirkpatrick, then son Roger Kirkpatrick. I am trying to make a real connection with JM Kirkpatrick to Donald Kirkpatrick or one of his sons. Any one know or have any leads?

This is the current info I have: http://www.thegenealogytree.com/howard-cuzzins/joseph-milton...

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

bridget4444 — 2012-02-12 16:03:30Z

I live in Clarkston, MI. Dearborn isn't to far from my home. If you can find any info on his burial, I could go to the cemetery and ask for information, maybe they would have the next of kin, ect.
Also, you can go to whitepages.com, type in the city and state, then type in the surname Kirkpatrick. It will give any Kirkpatricks in that area, then call them and ask for info. The obituary will have family members listed in it.

Re: trying to find Thomas kirkpatrick

kirkys26 — 2012-02-12 13:46:27Z

I have some more info now and it is possible our Thomas Kirkpatrick died in Dearborn Detroit Michigan,I have left messages in the town of Dearborn newspaper to see if their are any living relatives there.The Thomas Kirkpatrick who died there as the same birth date and died in 2001 which means he would have been 98 when he died.Hope I can find some living relatives there.

Lizzie, Emma, Mary KIRKPATRICK, Cedar Rapids Iowa

sherrymarine — 2012-02-09 04:12:11Z

Found a picture of these three sisters at an antique shop in CA if anyone is interested. Sherry, CA

Help Find Kirkpatrick!!!

kirkpatricklovesdoctorwho — 2012-02-04 11:15:57Z

I was wondering if anybody knew my birth family I don't know much about them cause I was adopted Just that she was irish & scottish & her last name was Kirkpatrick she also lived in colorado.
I just wanna know cause i've had health problems and wanna know what problems her family has had. I think she named me Samantha.I was born on Jan 1980 in Denver,Co Thanx,Angel

Kirkpatricks.. Ireland to Canada to US.. Back at it~ A letter~

bnbkirk72259 — 2012-01-17 22:59:18Z

Descendants of John and Elizabeth (Montgomery) Kirkpatrick
thumbody2130 (View posts) Posted: 21 Jul 2008 5:23PM
Classification: Query
Surnames: Kirkpatrick, Westnott

Hi to all.. I have not been on this (or any) list in some time now.. think I burned myself out when I tackled this journey when the farm became a Centennial Farm. We had planned a surprise party for my father-in-law, and I thought it would be nice to have some of the history of the family for him that day. I worked solid for about 5 mo every chance I got, and actually did find a lot, but there was of course some missing information. I decided if I was ever going to solve the questions l still have about this family. I am including some of the facts I did find. If anyone is connected to this family, or has any more info or ideas on how to find some of the missing things I would appreciate greatly hearing from you...I do have much more information on the family if you think you are connected.
Here goes... of course, as it goes some facts may be a little off..
**********************************

John KIRKPATRICK married Elizabeth MONTGOMERY on Jan 13, 1813 in Aghavea, Fermanagh, Ireland.
They immigrated to Ontario, Canada abt 1847 with 2 sons William & Robert. I find the boys in Middlesex Co, where they settled, in the 1871 Census, but have not found the parents AT all. It is said they went to Middlesex via Oxford Co.(West Williams Township History Book)

William KIRKPATRICK(our direct line)was born 3/12/1823 in Ireland. He married Jane WESTNOTT also Born Ireland(AFTER he came to Canada)...I did find her with her mother and brother in Oxford Co in the 1851 census in Norwich Twp., so I figure She and William were then married sometime between 1851 and 1855, when their first child was born. One of their children Robert C KIRKPATRICK states on his marriage registration that he was born in Blenheim.. he was born in 1860.. The family was Ch of England.

William and Jane have 7 children, all born by the time of the 1871 Census;

John Westnott KIRKPATRICK b.1855,
Elizabeth " b. 1857
William Montgomery " b. 1859
Robert Charles " b. 1860
Ann Jane " b. 1864
Richard " b. 1866
James Lethbtidge " b. 1869
I know these children were all born in Ontario, but I am not exactly sure
*Where* in Ontario.. Some I think in Middlesex Co.. Robert says Blenheim on
his marriage Registration.
The West Williams history book Says " John Kirkpatrick and his wife Elizabeth "immigrated to Middlesex County in the 1840's, via Oxford Co.. "
The Norwich and District Archives in Oxford Co did a search, and did not find any of them.

**The earliest census I have seen is 1871, where I found William and his family in West Nissouri(note on Census also says East Middlesex), and I would like to know where they were for the 1851 and 1861 Census if they immigrated in 1847(found on the 1901 census).
I have not seen the 1851 or 1861 census.
*I did find William on the 1891 and 1901 census in the same place..
*The 1901 Census says William immigrated in 1847. His wife Jane Westnott, immigrated in 1829, and she is still with her mother and a brother in the 1851 Census of Oxford CO.
*Williams death notice says "Coming to London in the early forties he engaged in business for some time afterwards settleing on a farm in West Nissouri until his removal to Sylvan."

* * I am wondering if John and Elizageth (the parents) even came over.. If so, I am now wondering if the whole family went to London first, then William moved on... I thought he farmed in West Williams.. Was it once W Nissouri??

**Williams brother Robert stayed in London, and his son became asst. City Engineer there... Robert was a Boot and Shoemaker.
Although William is our direct Ancestor, I am of course also interested in anything on his brother Robert and/or any other member of this family.

*From the 1901 Census states they were Ch of England.

* I would also be interested in the marriage registration of William and Jane as I have not been able to find it anywhere..

Thank you in advance for any info you can give..
Bonnie Kirkpatrick
in the Thumb of Michigan

KIRKPATRICK Willie Lewis 1896 1946

t42ForestLawn — 2012-01-10 12:34:32Z

KIRKPATRICK Willie Lewis 1896 1946

DaveStrtickland photographed this gravestone in the Forest Lawn Cemetery, Dallas, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 224,687 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Forest Lawn) and Surname .
If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

KIRKPATRICK Lucy Jane 1859 1936 mother

t42ForestLawn — 2012-01-07 12:44:40Z

KIRKPATRICK Lucy Jane 1859 1936 mother

DaveStrtickland photographed this gravestone in the Forest Lawn Cemetery, Dallas, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 224,687 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Forest Lawn) and Surname .
If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

KIRKPATRICK James M 1858 1930 father

t42ForestLawn — 2012-01-05 22:49:37Z

KIRKPATRICK James M 1858 1930 father

DaveStrtickland photographed this gravestone in the Forest Lawn Cemetery, Dallas, Dallas Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 224,687 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Forest Lawn) and Surname .
If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: DAVID KIRKPATRICK

samkirkp — 2011-12-30 16:42:38Z

Ann
I stumbled on your post by accident. Your great grandfather and mine are the same person, and your great uncle David is also my great uncle. I have done some limited research on both David and James Thomas a couple of years ago, and have visited their graves in Illinois. I'd be happy to hear from you if you want to discuss any further. My father is William John Kirkpatrick of Ballyhalbert - his father was William John Kirkpatrick as well. My email address is samkirkp@aol.com.
Best wishes
Sam Kirkpatrick

Hannah Kirkpatrick Barclay Dau of Hugh K Book ready

TomACaulley — 2011-12-21 23:16:30Z

After nearly 6 moths of writing and researching, I FINALLY have finished Vol 1 in the series on the descendants and royal ancestors of Hugh Kirkpatrick (of W. Nottingham Township, Chester Co., PA b ca 1695-d 1768). Volume 1 covers descendants of Hannah Kirkpatrick (1717-1772) who married Hugh Barclay. Her descendants include such notables a Sam Houston (Texas hero), Madge Bellamy (Silent Movie Star) and Stephen Foster (father of American Music). Her ancestors are presumed to include Kings of England, Scotland, France, Germany, Italy, Turkey, Bavaria, Kiev Russia, Sweeden, Kent, Wessex and East Anglia, Charlemagne, several Holy Roman Emperors, 5 saints 3 Roman Senators and 2 Roman Proconsuls.

There are over 1765 pages, 6500 names, 4300 documents a full descendants chart and my gedcom for this family all on 1 data DVD. Cost is $15 (+$5 S/H)

If you are interested, contact me directly at tcaulleysgenmail [at] yahoo.com

Re: Descendants of William Kirkpatrick of Conheath in Dumfriesshire, Scotland

DavidR532 — 2011-12-15 04:35:49Z

I read with interest the original post which refers to the family of William Kirkpatrick and Mary Wilson. It says that they had 19 children of whom 8 died as babies. It says "I have obtained the list of the children." It gives the names of 5 children. I would very much like to obtain the names of all the children, or at least, those who survived. My email to jif137@hotmail.com has been returned as undeliverable. If anyone has this list of the children, I would be grateful to see it.

Re: John Kirkpatrick of Belmont County Ohio

pauldickson_1 — 2011-12-06 16:49:19Z

I have many Clines in my family history also. Descended from Hans George Cline, a Revolutionary War soldier. Are you from the Ray or Bertha Kirkpatrick side, or perhaps another child I do not have in my tree?

Paul

If you send along your E Mail address I can forward some information on the Clines too.
paul.dickson@comcast.net

Re: Looking for Kirkpatricks - Scottish ancestry

ivonekirkpatrick — 2011-11-26 08:00:09Z

Hi Veekaye,
Rather than send the entire gedcom family file which is extensive and probably quite confusing I have printed an adobe file for the families of Robert K & Janet H & their children: Thomas & Ellen Dunnage, your line & Children: and details of their children, marriages and so forth. This should fill in some of your gaps. I tried to send you the file but 'Ancestry' declined, could you send your email address and I'll send the file to you it directly. I also have other info on Thomas i.e his photograph, headstone, building work,and gold mining, but I will have to find it. as I remember he was quite a lad.

In return, if possible, I would like some information about Robert Kirkpatrick & Janet Hunter and their ancestry.

regards,
Ivone

Re: Looking for Kirkpatricks - Scottish ancestry

veekaye — 2011-11-26 03:44:46Z

Hi ivonekirkpatrick,
I would appreciate receiving your gedcom file. It may fill in some gaps for me, and I may be able to do the same for you. I have Janet (Hunter) Kirkpatrick's ancestors for a couple of generations back, but can't prove Robert's ancestry. I have recently acquired Charles Kirkpatrick's book "Records of the Closeburn Kirkpatricks" - still working my way through that!

Re: Looking for Kirkpatricks - Scottish ancestry

ivonekirkpatrick — 2011-11-26 03:06:12Z

Hi Veekaye,

I noticed your post re part of the family of Kirkpatricks that migrated to Australia. I have the family history pretty much documented to current day for most of the family that is descendant from Robert & Janet of Tynron, Dumfrieshire. What I don't have is the ancestors of robert & Janet. If you are connected to this family I could send you the gedcom file, you may like to let me know.

Re: John Kirkpatrick of Belmont County Ohio

sullybean — 2011-11-23 14:03:45Z

Yes! Thank you, I have been searching for William L. Kirkpatrick and Sabina DeLong's parents for so long. This is so exciting. I'm part of their son Robert Otto Kirkpatrick and Victoria Cline's line.

Re: Descendants of William Kirkpatrick of Conheath in Dumfriesshire, Scotland

stephaniedetjens24 — 2011-11-17 03:15:04Z

Hello Amelia, I would be very interested to see your family info. Please respond if you can. My 2x greatgrandfather Thomas who emigrated to US in 1848 from around Belfast brought his widowed mother Eliza Armstrong Kilpatrick to New York with his siblings. We feel his father was named James.The surname may have evolved from Kirk to Kil when they moved to Ireland. The family story includes the Spanish component and the Empress Eugenie

Re: Descendants of William Kirkpatrick of Conheath in Dumfriesshire, Scotland

ameliawalker1 — 2011-11-17 02:15:44Z

Hi, I can directly trace my family to William Kirkpatrick grandfather of Empress Eugénie. I believe my ancestors left scotland around the 1850's for Canada.

Re: David Kirkpatrick

dsdb4ever1 — 2011-11-01 22:10:01Z

Thank you - There are land records in Indiana showing sales by David in 1852 or 1853 so they must have made the move in 1853.

Thank you for the info.

Re: David Kirkpatrick

dsdb4ever1 — 2011-11-01 22:09:58Z

Thank you - There are land records in Indiana showing sales by David in 1852 or 1853 so they must have made the move in 1853.

Thank you for the info.

Re: David Kirkpatrick

45rcrooker — 2011-10-26 14:11:41Z

I cannot help you with David Kirkpatrick's parents, but I can provide the circumstance and an approximate range of years of this death. According to an early Henderson family history [David's second wife's first husband was Robert Henderson], David died while "crossing the plains" to California. He died between 1850 and 1853. My reasoning is as follows:

David Kirkpatrick might have departed from his farm Plain Township, Indiana, for the California gold fields with a son and step-son in 1849/1850. The son was James Kirkpatrick and the step-son Vincent Henderson. James and Vincent appear three times in the 1850 census, once at the Indiana farm and twice in the California gold fields. The Indiana and California dates are too close for them to have been on the farm in Indiana, so I suspect that the censustaker mis-reported them as being on the farm, when they were already in the gold fields of El Dorado County. Like most miners in the early gold rush, they were moving quickly from location to location as word about gold strkes spread in the hills; they were in New Ringold in early September and then Logtown a month later.

David Kirkpatrick, who was 62 in 1850, was listed in the 1850 census only in Plain Township, Indiana. He might have died en route to California with Vincent and James, but I suspect that he died later, while accompanying other family members to the state, including his wife Elizabeth "Betsy" [Parker-Henderson] and some of this children and step children.

Exactly when the second wave of the Kirkpatrick-Henderson clan migrated to California is problematic, but David's step-daughter, Elizabeth Ann Henderson, married in California in November 1853. She was too young to have accompanied Vincent and James in 1850. She would have been only 13 or 14 years old. Instead, she very likely travelled with mother and step-father David sometime between 1850 and 1853, which would therefore be the approximate range of years that David died.

I hope this helps.

Kirkpatricks (Henry) Hamilton, Ont., Canada

pkirkswing — 2011-10-11 23:00:20Z

Hi, Am trying to trace my husband's family lineage. Have this so far:

Herbert Austin Kikrpatrick b 1903 (Hamilton, Ont.) - d 1966 (Montreal)(my husband's father) brothers Clarence Warren and Albert, sisters Phylis and Helen

Clarence Willoughby b 1878 (Hamilton) - d.?
married 1901 Annie Warren b 1879
reporter and later editor (I think) of Hamilton Spectator newspaper

William b. 1849 (Ireland) d. 1936 (Hamilton)
married Janet Mcilroy (b. 1849 d 1929) in 1878

1871 Census for Hamilton shows:

William aged 21
Henry, father/head age 60 (b. Ire.) -my husband's gg-grandfather
Ann (Magee/mother) age 49 (b. Ire.)
Joseph, 24 (b. Ire.)
Ellen, 23 (b. Ire.)
John, 19 (b.Ire.)
Margaret, 17 (b. Ire.)
Andrew, 15 (b.Ire.)
Susan, 9 (b. Ire.)
Robert, 3 (born in Ontario)
Mary (grandmother?), 94 (b. Ire.)- my husband's ggg=grandmother

I think there may have been one other daughter as well, a Mary Anne, (marriage rec. shows her age 20 when she married John Ingram in 1867 in Hamilton)and maybe even a Jane (born around 1859 ..shown at age 32 on 1891 census). So...according to this the family emigrated to Canada somewhere between 1862 and 1868.

I have found a record on 1851 Census for County Antrim for a Mary Kirkpatrick, age 75 and a Henry, age 75. I'm wondering if this is the same Mary who is on Hamilton census in 1871 at age 94 and if this Henry might be my father's ggg-grandfather.
After this point I completely hit a dead end
. I can't find any other records of the family at all. Any information about anybody mentioned above or any advice on where to look next would be greatly appreciated.

-Sandy Wing-Kirkpatrick

Re: DAVID KIRKPATRICK

Sandylands47 — 2011-09-20 09:15:09Z

That sounds like James K except for the birth date. His birthday was 10/11/1889 which I got from a family member. I suppose either birthdate could be wrong.

Thanks for the grave link, the d0b is two years out, is it possible that this is David Jnr. He died in 1953, would they be making mistakes with the year of birth at that time. I suppose it is possible he gave his birth date as 1891 instead of 1888 or they got it wrong at some time and he just left it? I don't know why he would but ??

My dad has written that David K Jnr before he had a barber's shop drove street cars, maybe he and Hugh both did or dad was mixed up.

That info sounds like the right Hugh, his father was John (from Ellis Island info) but I haven't made a connection yet to my Ballyhalbert Bell family - my g/g/grandmother Mary Bell (m. James Ross) and her father Thomas Bell.
Mary & James were Sarah's parents.

Thanks Kathleen

Re: DAVID KIRKPATRICK

kateherron41 — 2011-09-19 17:43:14Z

Ann,

I missed this posting. I think we should also look for the missing brother James and at Hugh Bell. We might find a reference to the David's in his obit, etc.

Name: Hugh Beel
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
View Map
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Scotland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Margaret Beel
Race: White
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Beel 40 SCOT? conductor arrived 1904
Margaret Beel 37
Isabelle Beel 18
Margaret Beel 17
Mary E Beel 8

1920 - arrived 1906
Name: Hugh Bell
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 33, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Age: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's Name: Margaret Bell
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Hugh Bell 30 street car conductor
Margaret Bell 28
Isabel Bell 6 [6 6/12]
Margaret Bell 5
Thomas Bell 3
James Tyrrell 30

1910 - arrived 1909
Name: Hugh Bell
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Ireland
Mother's Birth Place: Ireland
Home in 1910: Geneva, Kane, Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of immigration: 1909
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Walter Little 31
Margaret Little 26
Dorothy Little 6
Margaret Little 4
Nellie Little 2
Hugh Bell 22 (1888)
David Kirkpatrick 21
Jim Kluthich 20
Louis Castle 22
Thomas Whelan 20

WWI draft app:

Name: Hugh Bell
City: Chicago
County: Cook
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Ireland
Birth Date: 28 Sep 1889
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1493583
DraftBoard: 31
Born Belfast
Wife, 3 children

First Name: Hugh
Last Name: Bell
Ethnicity: Great Britain, Irish
Last Place of Residence: Ballyholbert, Ireland
Date of Arrival: Apr 25, 1909
Age at Arrival: 21y6m Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Arabic
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0001

Marriage -- Hugh living in Aurora, Kane Co IL

https://www.familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-13036-52252...

Groom: Hugh Bell
Groom's Titles & Terms (Original):
Groom's Race (Original):
Groom's Race (Standardized):
Groom's Age: 23
Groom's Estimated Birth Year: 1889
Groom's Birth Date: 1889
Groom's Birthplace:
Bride: Margaret Tyrrell
Bride's Titles & Original):
Bride's Race (Original):
Bride's Race (Standardized):
Bride's Age: 21
Bride's Estimated Birth Year: 1891
Bride's Birth Date: 1891
Bride's Birthplace:
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 08 Jul 1912
Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Intended Marriage Date:

Okay -- death of son Thomas, born in Batavia, IL, buried at Mt. Greenwood -- where you might well find Hugh and possibly a Kirkpatrick?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9Q6H-V7Z/p1

Died in the flu epidemic ....

Name: Thomas Bell
Titles & Terms:
Death Date: 08 Mar 1920
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Gender: Male
Race (Original): White
Race (Standardized): White
Death Age: 3y 4m 12d
Estimated Birth Year:
Birth Date: 27 Oct 1916
Birthplace: Bateria, Ill.
Marital Status:
Spouse:
Spouse's Titles & Terms:
Father: Hugh Bell
Father's Titles & Terms:
Father's Birthplace: Ireland
Mother: Margaret Tyrrell
Mother's Titles & Terms:
Mother's Birthplace: Chicago
Occupation: home of parents
Street Address: 1441 N. Cicero Ave., 33 Ward
Residence:
Cemetery: Mt. Greenwood
Burial Place:
Burial Date: 11 Mar 1920

Were there more BELL family members in Chicago?

Dec 10 1938
Bell - John Bell, suddenly, formerly of 2856 W 57th Street, dearly beloved son of the late John Sr. and Isabella, fond brother of Wm, Rbt, Peter, Thomas, Samuel, Mrs. Sarah Rhueubottom and the late ****Hugh Bell****. ... interment Mount Greenwood ....

Okay, so here we are again in Kane Co, IL ...
WWI draft apps -

Name: James Thomas Kirkpatrick
County: Kane
State: Illinois
Birthplace: Ireland
Birth Date: ********30 Aug 1892**********
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1613541
DraftBoard: 1
born BallyH__________ Co Down
Employer/address RiverBend-RiverBanks? Company
Geneva, IL

Re: Looking for Kirkpatricks - Scottish ancestry

veekaye — 2011-09-17 04:23:26Z

Hi Robyn,
I am a descendant of this same Kirkpatrick family through John Hunter Kirkpatrick's older brother Thomas. I have been trying to resolve this relationship for some years now, but have still not found the connection between their father Robert (1778-1832) and Sir James (4th Baronet.)
I have recently been mapping the family in Australia, and have pretty much completed it up to the mid 1900's, but of course after that, without personal knowledge I can go no further.
It is a work in progress.