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KRUM Abel - Krumville, Ulster county, New York

Lace_Lynch — 2012-01-07 13:54:46Z

Name: Krum, Abel
Date: August 13, 1908
Source: Source unknown; Cleveland, Ohio Necrology File, Reel #047.
Notes: Krum, Abel, died Tuesday, August 11, 1908 aged 46 years.
Services from his late residence, 5520 Dibble ave., at 2
p.m. standard time.
Interment at Krumville, Ulster county, New York.

KRUM Paul - Chardon, Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2012-01-07 13:51:45Z

Id#: 0591443
Name: Krum, Paul
Date: Dec 5 1953
Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #127.
Notes: Krum, Paul, beloved husband of the late Clara; father of Mrs. Vera Gage of Rock Creek, Ohio, and Harlan Krum of Chardon, Ohio; grandfather.
Friends received from 2 to 5 and 7 to 9 at the Burr Funeral Home, Chardon, O., where services will be held Sunday, Dec. 6, 1:30 p.m

Name: Krum, Clara
Date: Oct 11 1943
Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #047.
Notes: Krum: Clara, beloved wife of Paul, mother of Vera Gage and Harlan, and grandmother.
Services from the Congregational Church, at Chardon, Ohio., Tuesday, at 2 p.m.

Name: Krum, Harlan
Date: Feb 15 1958
Source: Source unknown; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #127.
Notes: Krum, Harlan; beloved husband of Madeleine, and father of Clarisse, Marion and Dorothy; brother of Mrs. Vera Gage.
Friends may call Saturday, Feb. 15, at the Burr Funeral Home, Chardon, O. Services at the First Congregational Church. Chardon, O., Sunday, Feb. 16, at 3 p.m.

Geauga

KRUM John A. - Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2012-01-07 13:43:13Z

KRUM JOHN A. KRUM, aged 90, died December 31, 2011, after several bouts with pnemonia and subsequent complications. Beloved husband of the late Marcey Lynn Krum.

Survived by his daughter, Katherine of Paris, France and by his son, John Jr. of Zurich, Switzerland. Katherine has two daughters, Nathalie of Madrid, Spain and Laura of Paris. John Jr. and his wife, Barbara have three sons, Matthew, Christopher and Nicholas all in Switzerland.
John is predeceased by his oldest daughter, Deborah Douglas, MD and survived by Deborah's two daughters, Kate Burgin, with their son, Alexander and younger sister, Charlotte Gitter: Kate in Baltimore; and Charlotte in New York City.

John was born in Cleveland, Ohio and graduated from Shaker Heights High School in 1940.
He graduated from Amherst College in 1944 and served three years in the U.S. Army.
Upon his return, married Marcey Lynn in June of 1948. John worked in sales and sales administration, 39 years, with Pickands Mather & Co.
He was a member of Christ Church Episcopal, Hudson, Ohio since 1961, serving three terms on the Vestry, as well as Junior and Senior Warden for two terms. His civic involvement included various school committees and levy issues, Municipal Planning Commission, three terms on City Council and the Hudson Public Library Board.
John Krum was Mayor of Hudson from 1999-2003. He was instrumental in the First and Main St. development, as well as creating the Hudson Veterans Memorial Garden, in Markille Cemetery, serving as Committee Chairman. The family prefers that those who wish may make contributions, in his name, to Christ Church Episcopal, 21 Aurora St., Hudson, Ohio 44236 or to The Laurel Lake Foundation, 200 Laurel Lake Dr., Hudson, Ohio 44236.
Memorial Services for both John and Marcey will be held at Christ Church Episcopal in Hudson, Ohio on Thursday, January 19, 2012, at 11:00 a.m., followed by a second Memorial Service at Laurel Lake in the Community Room on Friday, January 20, at 11:00 a.m. For further information, directions and to sign the guest book log online to: www.Brown-Forward.com BROWN-FORWARD SERVICE 216-752-1200

Id#: 0591439
Name: Krum, Charles L.
Date: Dec 8 1972
Source: Cleveland Press; Cleveland Necrology File, Reel #127.
Notes: Krum. Charles L. Krum, beloved husband of Marjorie F. (nee Fenton), father of John A. of Hudson, Ohio and Mrs. David Dale (Mary) at Scituate. Mass., grandfather of six, brother of Mrs. W. P. Abbott (Florence).
Private graveside services will be held Friday. Brown-Forward Service.

Re: Krum family from Iowa

whydaddy1984 — 2011-12-24 04:41:51Z

I am Stephanie Krum from waterloo iowa. i have some family livin here but i dont know past my grandfather an im 19. i was looking for more info since my dad past 2001 an dont talk to much of his sides. maybe we are some how related.

Re: John Krum Sr.

abthomas_1 — 2011-04-30 20:05:06Z

I am connected to Gideon through John Sharpless Krum. I had Catherine, born July 24, 1957 as having died November 22, 1861 and buried in the Union Cemetery in Catawissa. There were a lot of Krums in this area, so I could be mistaken about Catherine.

Re: John Krum Sr.

KPrzybyla0761 — 2011-04-29 22:03:27Z

Do you have any information on the family of Gideon Krum? I am trying to find out what happened to his daughter Catherine b. 1857. My grand mother was Catherine Krum born in Pa. and lived in Illinois. Married to Franklin Tracey and then James Teeling. Wondered if this was her family.

Re: Howard Lewis KRUM & Florence Fay WILSON

KathrynDodd19 — 2011-04-20 22:47:13Z

I am doing some research on this family trying to find out if the town of Krum, Texas might possible have been named for Howard Lewis Krum's father, Charles Krum. I may have some information for you as well.

KRUM Gerald A - Vietnam Wall section 11W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-04-20 13:57:11Z

KRUM Gerald A - Vietnam Wall section 11W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 220,673 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Krum, Charles K. : Railroad Official

past2 — 2011-02-09 19:32:57Z

Krum, Charles: I am searching for ancestors of Charles Krum, with the possible middle initial K. or L. Charles was considered a railroad official of maybe the Gulf, Colorado & Santa Fe Railroad or Atchison, Topeka & Santa Fe Railroad or some other railroad.
I am researching Charles Krum in an attempt to find the man for whom the town of Krum, Texas was named. Krum was founded as a depot town of the Gulf, Colorado and Santa Fe railroad in 1886. So this Charles Krum would probably have been born around 1850 to 1860. I am hoping some Krum ancestor will either have some documents or family history to record this event.

Re: krum jefferson county new york

andershd — 2010-01-08 12:51:31Z

rboi

I have found your KRUM info and a connection. Contact me and send me you email address so I can send it to you.
Zona

Re: krum jefferson county new york

rboi3 — 2010-01-07 18:27:23Z

birth and death years from headstones

fred 1886-1976 born in rome ny

katie may born 1890 in camden or williamstown ny died 1978

Re: Krum/Crum DNA study

174Lyndale — 2010-01-03 15:33:22Z

I am researching KRUHM ancestry for a neighbor. Volkmar Kruhm and a son Adolph Kruhm born 24 April 1884 in Nordhausen, Germany; Adolph may have died around 1940. I think he was a master gardener and book writer. I don't know where he died. They emigrated into NYS via Montreal. They may have gone into the Stowe, Vermont area as they knew Maria von Trapp during the immigation to the states. Maria formed the TRAPP Family Singers, which became world famous.

Do you think the KRUHM surname was americanized to Krum/Crum; it wasn't in the Kruhm people I mention?

A descendant Kenneth A. Kruhm died in Corrales, NM in 1994.

Re: krum jefferson county new york

174Lyndale — 2010-01-03 14:15:45Z

Knowing a time-frame And approximate birth years would be helpfulto find the children of Fred and Katie KRUM. Do you happen to know where any of them were born. Someone could
then proceed to search for you,

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

EliGoldsmith — 2009-09-02 18:27:57Z

Hello family,

I am Eli Goldsmith, named after Eli Crum of Liberty TWP, MI, whose father was John Kain Crum (Krom) of Shawangunk, Ulster Co. NY. I received a posting from Pam Smith yesterday (9/01/09) who returned my attn back to this site.

In response to the person who wrote concerning the vagaries of spellings of last names, you are so correct. The name Beach could have been Beech, Beitch, etc., or perhaps simply the placename Beach(one living at the beach) One can leave no stone unturned when researching family.

Will write again soon.

Regards,
Eli

Augusta Krum

Jud1201 — 2009-07-14 01:54:32Z

My great grandmother was Augusta Krum born 1868 in Germany. Her family came to the USA in 1884. She married Henry(Hervey)Spangenberg in 1885. They had 4 children Carl, Hattie(my grandmother) Ellen, Walter. The 1910 census has them living in Traverse City, MI. This is where my grandparents met. I have no more information on Augusta or Henry after 1910. I would appreciate any help. My one aunt who is now gone once told me there was a Krum family connection in the Kalamazoo, Mi area.

Thanks for any help

krum jefferson county new york

lsboiko — 2009-06-23 02:23:07Z

looking for children of fred and katie krum . they lived in adams and ellisberg ny

daughters esther and marjorie

Re: Krums from PA

marlasinner — 2008-08-26 08:29:53Z

Hi,

I have a phillip Krum who is listed as my ggggrandfather...

my ggmothers name was
Mary Elizabeth (Krum) Senner
John Krum her father married Marie Gerringer
Phillip Krum his father married Kathryn Margaret Dittenbir

does any of this look familiar....

email me at marla_allen@yahoo.com

thanks,
Marla Allen

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

tramstad — 2007-09-01 15:20:58Z

Thank you for the quick response, this Hiram went to Berlin, wisc. in the early 1850's. He and family are in the Rosendale 1850 census. He is in Wics. in 1860, 70 and 1880 census. Rebecca is not in the last one. I have checked all available records I can find. About 3 of their children are buried in the Coutant cemetary, Rosendale. I most details of his living children should anyone be interested.

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

GLMARESCO — 2007-09-01 02:05:29Z

For some reason, there is no Hiram Krom in the Krom genealogy that I have. I have looked at the census records--is this the same HIram who moved to Wisconsin?

Have you researched Hiram in the Ulster Co. church baptism records? I see he was in Marbletown in the 1840 census.

I will poke around a little more.

Gretchen

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

tramstad — 2007-08-31 23:39:42Z

I am looking for any information on Hiram Krom, married to Rebecca Ann Stringham in Ulster Co. Hiram was born about 1815 in New York, Rebecca about 1818, High Falls , New York to Peter Stringham and Maria Depuy. Their son, Peter, born 1939 and living in Rosendale according to census is my family line. i believe that I have all but the connection of Hiram's parents to complete tree.

James Krum from Germany to Orange CO. NY

Robgal74 — 2007-07-31 18:09:17Z

Looking for a James KRUM. He was born in Germany probably around 1870-1875. Turns up in Chester, Orange CO. NY in the late 1890s. Had a child named Alma in Jan 1898 in Chester with Catherine VERBERT. After that he disappears and the child Alma is living with her grandparents. Anyone researching this line?

Robin

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

GLMARESCO — 2007-06-06 23:26:35Z

Hi, Ron

I have a few Kroms on my family tree. (This is a statement that will inspire laughter if you're not talking genealogy with someone.)

Well, anyway, are you looking for the Crom/Krum/Krom family that originated in Ulster Co., NY?

I have a copy of "The Descendants of Gysbert Crom," from the Ulster County Genealogical Society, and I could do a lookup for you.

Where are you stuck on the Crom surname?

Gretchen Maresco

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

marlasinner — 2007-05-21 06:36:52Z

Hi,

my email is still active and my great grandmother was
Mary Elizabeth Krum Sinner.......need any confirmation just ask, I have lots of information on her side of the family.

Marla Allen

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

kms2135 — 2007-05-20 16:37:43Z

I haven't had the opportunity to do much lately. I do have a web site, The Krum Line, which has quite a bit of information. The URL is http://home.comcast.net/~kms2135/
I hope this helps.

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

RCrom — 2007-05-20 02:26:27Z

I was wondering if you were still working on the crum/crom family tree or not and how far back have you gotten, I have been stuck for quite a while now and think that I may have made a breakthrough but need some comformation, hope this email is still active. Ron Crom

Jeremiah Krum in Schoharie, NY

PeggyHendricks66 — 2007-03-12 18:19:26Z

Please help me with the names of Jeremiah Krum's wife and children. We think my husband's great-grandmother's name was Delia Laura Krum (born 1830 in NY) before she married Henry William Collins (also born in NY), but I can find no proof. Think she had a brother named Franklin. I do find a Franklin in the 1850>NY>Schoharie>Broome census, age 22, living with parents (I suppose) Jeremiah and Cynthia Crum. Delia and Henry W. Collins are already married in 1850 and living with a Davenport family in Elmira, NY. Many thanks for any clues,
Peggy Hendricks
pphendricks@yahoo.com

Sadie Krum / Crum Richford, NY 1930's

mrjwwj — 2006-11-09 12:40:18Z

Do you know the maiden name of Sadie Krum/Crum (or her husband's first name) who lived on Main St. in Richford, Tioga, NY in the 1930's. The house has since burned and been replaced by a mobile home. I was born in her house and have my given name because of this lady. Feel there must be a family connection but this is my biggest 'brick wall' Your help forever appreciated.

Re: John Krum Sr.

abthomas_1 — 2006-09-04 18:02:08Z

Hi,
I am the ggg grand daughter of John Krum (1797-1865) thru Gideon. I am interested in the picture you mentioned. I have been researching the family for about 27 years and still live in the area.

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

kms2135 — 2006-09-04 03:16:26Z

I have been doing extensive research on the Krum genealogy and find that, at least up until about 1850, Krom, Krum, Crom, and Crum are used quite interchangeably. Not only did census takers and ministers use "flexible" spelling, but folks who weren't great spellers even spelled their own names different ways. Then you add in the vagaries of what transcribers come up with and it's anyone's guess!

We may have some relatives in common, as I have a Beach Byron Krum in my line. Beach seems a rather unusual name; haven't figured out its origin yet.

New Krum web site

kms2135 — 2006-09-04 03:16:26Z

It is with great joy (and a bit of trepidation) that I announce that my new web site on my Krom family line is up and running. You can access it at:

http://home.myuw.net/homers/krum/index.htm

"The Krum Line" web site has moved

kms2135 — 2006-09-04 03:16:26Z

Just a note to let you all know that my web site, "The Krum Line" has a new address. It's now located at:
https://home.comcast.net/~kms2135/

Re: Rachel Krum/Krom

GLMARESCO — 2006-06-17 00:56:11Z

According to the genealogy "Descendants of Gysbert Krom," published by the Ulster Co., Genealogical Society, Rachel Krom, wife of Jacob Markle, was the daughter of Cornelius Krom and Barbara Davis. She was born 11 Feb 1799 and baptized 3 March 1799 in Marbletown.

Siblings:
John, bt. 10 Feb 1782 in Kingston
Elizabeth, bt. 31 Aug 1783 in Kingston
Jacobus/James, bt 15 May 1785 in Kingston
Henry, bt. 11 Nov 1787 in Kingston
Cornelius, b. abt 1806 (no baptism date, but he is mentioned hin the will of Cornelius Krom)

Hope this gives you some info. Cornelius, father of Rebecca, fought in the Rev. War.

Krum Family of Jamestown/Trenton NJ

klirons — 2006-03-27 15:58:48Z

I am looking for decendants of Thomas Krum b. ca 1880- d.1949 &
Lillian (Berkeyhiser) Krum b.1894 - d.1971. My grandmother was
Amy Berkeyhiser, Lillian's sister. They were the daughters of Christian Berkeyhiser b.1874 - d.1939 & Elizabeth Ayres b.1872 -d.1922. I am looking for photos of the Berkeyhiser family (ancestors or descendants of Christian & Elizabeth). Please e-mail me directly with any information regarding the knowledge of or availablity of photos on this family line.

Thank you
Ken Irons

Robert G. Krum, 1919-1999 [obit]

map2knit — 2006-02-11 05:07:34Z

Rachel Krum/Krom

linwolf — 2006-02-09 22:29:35Z

Looking for the parents of Rachel Krum/Krom of Ulster County, New York b Jan 28, 1790 d Jan 31, 1865. Married Jacobus Markle 1815 in Ulster County, New York. Looking for her parents and siblings. Thank You. Linda

Re: Krums in PA

2005-12-05 08:08:21Z

Hell'o Susan,
You sent me some info.
on Lewis Moyer and (Belinda)Salinda Krum.
I do not know where i put the info. Could you please
send me the info.you sent a while back.Thank you!
Did your brother check out the webcam. from the Fulda
Dom ? Hope to hear from you soon.
I wish you and your family a Merry X-mass and a Happy New Year.
Danny W. Moyer/Fulda Hessen Germany

William & Elizabeth Krum

goldenbaby30200_1 — 2005-09-16 14:03:13Z

William & Elizabeth were husband & wife. Their last name could be spelled Krumm or Krume. They were married in May, 1854 in Allentown, Lehigh Co., PA. Elizabeth's name could be spelled "Elisabeth". Any info would be appreciated.

Krum, James (OBIT PA 9-4-2005)

myobituarysite — 2005-09-05 16:35:55Z

source: The Evening Sun - Hanover, PA 9-4-2005
Deceased: Krum, James (OBIT PA 9-4-2005)
Age: 81
Last Address: York, PA
Death date: 9-2-2005
Birth date: 4-14-1924
Birth place: Bloomsburg, PA

No relation to the deceased
For a copy of full obit send email to:
rbenjamin@qis.net
(please include date obit posted)

Krum

izardsue — 2005-06-14 05:49:15Z

John Peter or Conrad Krum married ot ??? Hermann, daughter Katherine Margaret Krum born Aug. 9, 1874 in Kukkus. Katherine married John Schafer. Does any of this sound familiar?

Re: Krums in PA

2005-05-30 06:24:24Z

Please look at Board.
Thank you.
Danny W. Moyer

Lewis Moyer

2005-05-30 06:15:46Z

Hell'o Susan,
I just got an e-mail from my cousin.
And it sounds like if this is our side of the family.
Do you happen to have a little more info.? Or could you
let me know where i can get the info. ?
One of my cousin's mother's brother was also married to
a Krum. Francis O'Gorman was married to Tevilla E. Krum b. 20.Oct.1867. It would be quite a coincidence if it was the same family as Francis Moyer's mother's family.
I hope to hear from you again. And thanks again for your reply.Bye-Bye for now.
Danny W. Moyer / Fulda - Germany

Re: Krums in PA

2005-05-18 13:58:52Z

Hell'o there,
Thank you very much for your reply.
It sounds great ! I have two cousins
that are also doing family research,let me
drop them an e-mail and see what they say.
I hope this is a PingGo. Do you happen to know
if the Francis you have listed is married to a
Catherinen Elizabeth Ziegenfuss ?
In my family line form my dad's side of the family father's side
the surenames are :
Lewis Moyer - Celeritis Krum
Francis L.Moyer - Catherine E. Ziegenfuss
Horace L. Moyer - Mabel E.Schappell
Dewey W. Moyer - Maria Niebling
I only have info. Up to Francis L. Moyer.1855
I am stuck by Lewis Moyer.
Thank you.I will post a massage as soon as i have more info.
Danny W. Moyer/ Fulda Germany

Re: Krums in PA

susanmarian — 2005-05-16 17:41:23Z

Danny,
My paternal great great aunt, Salinda Krum, married Lewis Moyer. According to family records, Salinda (listed as "Belinda" when she was baptized) was born 8 Mar 1823 and died 20 Dec 1883. Salinda and Lewis's children, according to the 1870 US Census, were David (age 22), Dennis (age 21), Robert (age 18), Catharine (age 17), Francis (age 15), Lydia (age 12), and William (age 10). The Census says they lived in Towamensing Township, Carbon Co., PA, and their post office was Stemlerville. Does any of this 'ring a bell'?
I'm related to Salinda thru her older brother Daniel, who was born in 1820 and married Hannah Dreisbach. Both were the children of Christian and Catharine Frederick Krum who apparently also lived in Stemlersville.

Rachel Krum m. Levi Depew Ulster Co. NY. Krum?

shrubbery — 2005-04-27 22:06:01Z

Looking for info on the parents of Rachel Krum/Krom (b. abt 1836).

Rachel Krum (b. 1836) m. Levi Depew (b. 1829) according to "Marbletown Reformed Dutch Church" and StoneRidge Medhtodst Chuch" listings. Census records show this family in or near Marbletown with children
Charles G. DEPUY, b. 1857
Mary E. DEPUY, b. 1859
Sarah J. DEPUY, b. 1862
Susan C. DEPEW, b. 1865
John B. DEPEW, b. 1871
Anna M. DEPEW, b. 1870
Moira L. DEPEW, b. 1873
Hellen A. DEPEW, b. 1874

Krum/Kumm

countrytreebob53 — 2005-04-18 04:36:21Z

Hello:I'm writing here because of a George W. Krum who used to live in Tioga County in Penna.around 1917.I was just wondering if because of their Broken German,thats the way it sounded.Just maybe it could have been the Surname of Kumm.If anyone knows of this,please write back.Thank You.Robert K.

Re: Krum, Crum, Crom

2005-01-07 21:33:20Z

Alls I know about the beach side right now is that Chauncy beach born 1818 was father to two children sarah beach 1844 and charles beach born abt, 1847

Sarah married william crum had a child cassius chance crum.
The name changed from crum to crom from a misspell on a service record.

Howard Lewis KRUM & Florence Fay WILSON

terryc_h — 2004-11-30 16:40:42Z

I am looking for any information on the following family and their living descendants.

WILSON, Florence Fay b. 22 Oct 1894 Chicago, Cook, IL d. 29 Jul 1977 Los Angeles Co, CA m. 28 Oct 1918 [Gary, Lake, IN] Howard Lewis KRUM b. 15 Nov 1885 Minneapolis, Hennepin, MN d. 13 Nov 1961 El Segundo, Los Angeles, CA [parents: Charles Lyon KRUM 1856-1939 & Ella LEWIS 1853-1948]

Kathryn Margeret Krum, brothers and sisters......

Marla972 — 2004-11-23 02:32:22Z

Here is what I have, Mary Elisabeth Krum, b 9-21,1886, In Kukkus, Russia, second child of John Krum and and Marie Gerringer Krum. First child being a boy John Krum. Their mother died due to illness when mary was 2 in Kukkus. Her father remarried, Ann Margret Johannas. they had four girls, Kathryn Margret, Elizabeth, Katy and Christina. and one boy Jake. On June 29, 1906 in Kukkus, Mary's stepmother passed away due to illness. Her father married a third time in Sterling Colorado to a widowed lady with theree children, Mrs. Beltz, maiden name Diettenbir. contact me at marla_allen@yahoo.com

Conrad Krum-

Marla972 — 2004-11-23 02:17:59Z

My great grandmother's aunts and uncles on her mothers side were, Phil, Chris, Conrad, Carl, Fred, George and Katherine Elizabeth Gerringer. My great grandmother's maiden name was Krum, Her name Mary Elizabeth Krum, born 9-2-1886, in Kukkus, Russia. She married my great grandfather in Sterling, Colorado, George Henry Sinner, b 2-5,1887, he was born in Schilling Russia. Mary's aunts and uncles on her father's side, (krum) were Henry, Peter, George, Jake, Margaret, Ann, Lizzie, Kary and Emma Krum On July 19, 1908 Mary married George Henry Sinner at the Lutheran Church in Sterling , Colorado. Email me if any of this sounds familiar. marla_allen@yahoo.com

2 Daniel Krums in Carbon County, PA

susanmarian — 2004-11-14 17:56:28Z

"My" Daniel Krum, farmer, married Hannah Dreisbach and is listed in the 1860 Census as "Danl Krim" - also listed are Chas age 11; John, age 9; Lewis, age 7 (my great-grandfather); Amanda, age 5; and Ellen, age 0. The "other" Daniel Krum was also born sometime in 1820, married Lovina Moyer, who died before the 1850 Census, where he is listed as "Daniel Krom", blacksmith, and has no wife here but Amanda, age 10; Francis, age 6; Dennis, age 1; and a housekeeper, named Caroline Hunsecker (?). By the 1860 census, where the "other" Daniel is listed as "Danl Krum", he has a wife named Caroline; Elizabeth, age 10; Emma, age 2; Franklin, age 22; and Francis, age 16, in his household. Since Francis seems to be 10 years older and Caroline is now his wife, I suggest that Lovina Moyer was the mother of the first batch. Wish they'd used middle names in those days!