Update from the Lancaster Surname Project!
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Update from the Lancaster Surname Project!
Hello Lancasters!
There has been a lot going on but not much said on this forum recently. As usual there have been many reasons to wait to give updates: waiting for test results, on-going discussions with various people, people waiting for wills to arrive etc. Time to try to give a flavour of what is going on.
Also keep in mind that I've been updating the public summary, so you might want to cross reference there... http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Lancaster.htm (Notice in green how I have been trying to collect information from all families about how far back their paper trails go, and whether they have connecting paper trails to other participants. If you can add or correct anything, please do!) I'll refer to some of our other many webpages as we go along...
1. Our "table 1" group of Lancasters from West Yorkshire and Eastern Lancashire, with its still mysterious connection to Satterthwaite is my group. Various tests are pending, but a couple of interesting updates:
With the latest markers, our Carpenter cousin's closest match is no longer clearly the Lancaster branch within the group, but perhaps the Satterfields of the USA.
The same results now make my Colne Lancasters (http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Macleay%20Lancasters.html ) look closer to the Cliviger Lancasters. It will be very interesting to see if this pattern can be confirmed on more markers.
On the genealogy front, I've made a new webpage about those Cliviger Lancasters and their origins, here: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/cliviger.html
Our group has invested in several tests for a new multi part marker, called DYF710. Let’s hope it is as useful as DYF399 for splitting up families.
2. The group at the top of table 2.
I think it has already been announced here and in other places that we seem to have proven that the Lancasters of Henrico Co, are one and the same family as those of York Co, presumably all descending from Gowan Lancaster who arrived in America in the 1600s. See http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/henrico.html
We only have one Henrico line tested past 12 markers and we lost contact with the other person, so one of the investments our project’s supporters should consider is upgrading him to confirm the pattern here. These two families together make up for a lot of all American Lancasters.
3. Our other big American group in table 2.
The main part of these descend from Robert Lancaster or Lancashire of Surry Co and Isle of White Co. See the page put together by co-admin John E Lancaster: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Robert%20L%20of%20Surrey%20...
They have already been connected successfully to the Bucks Co Quaker Lancasters, http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Bucks%20Co.html who match in turn with a family who, like them, came from the Birmingham area in the English midlands.
This latter family is another one currently stuck on 12 markers, which it would benefit the project greatly if we could make sure this was upgraded. We originally lost contact with the participant, but now we have contact with the family. We are hoping that between the family and perhaps with the encouragement of other project supporters, we'll manage an upgrade soon.
All these lines were suspected to come from Northern England. See Tony's webpage http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Quaker%20Lancasters.html
Well, last night (not yet showing on any public webpage) we received a new match to this increasingly large group, this time for a family from Kendal, in the northwest of England. This is very exciting news! We have two other families from this important Lancaster area (see http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/De%20Lancasters%20of%20West... ) but this one is so widespread, and it seems so old.
This new result is another one which is only 12 markers. Again, it is in the interests of Lancaster genealogy to upgrade if we can find a way.
4. The Maryland Catholic Lancasters. http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/maryland%20lancasters.html
Lancashire Records Office is very slowly filling its overseas will copy orders, and Lesa now has hers. I have already received a trickle of information which seems to confirm two things so far:
Captain John at the top of the family tree seems to be the son of another John, who was married to a Catherine.
Comparison of wills seems to make it more certain than before that we are dealing with a branch of the Rainhill Lancaster family. http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/The%20Lancasters%20of%20Rai...
In closing, remember that all sorts of participation and help and support are needed and many possibilities are summarized here: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/participate%20Lancaster.htm . And thanks to everyone already involved!
In any case if you have any ideas or questions or comments or whatever, please feel free to contact me on Andrew.lancaster@skynet.be
Best Regards
Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster DNA project
http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/
There has been a lot going on but not much said on this forum recently. As usual there have been many reasons to wait to give updates: waiting for test results, on-going discussions with various people, people waiting for wills to arrive etc. Time to try to give a flavour of what is going on.
Also keep in mind that I've been updating the public summary, so you might want to cross reference there... http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Lancaster.htm (Notice in green how I have been trying to collect information from all families about how far back their paper trails go, and whether they have connecting paper trails to other participants. If you can add or correct anything, please do!) I'll refer to some of our other many webpages as we go along...
1. Our "table 1" group of Lancasters from West Yorkshire and Eastern Lancashire, with its still mysterious connection to Satterthwaite is my group. Various tests are pending, but a couple of interesting updates:
With the latest markers, our Carpenter cousin's closest match is no longer clearly the Lancaster branch within the group, but perhaps the Satterfields of the USA.
The same results now make my Colne Lancasters (http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Macleay%20Lancasters.html ) look closer to the Cliviger Lancasters. It will be very interesting to see if this pattern can be confirmed on more markers.
On the genealogy front, I've made a new webpage about those Cliviger Lancasters and their origins, here: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/cliviger.html
Our group has invested in several tests for a new multi part marker, called DYF710. Let’s hope it is as useful as DYF399 for splitting up families.
2. The group at the top of table 2.
I think it has already been announced here and in other places that we seem to have proven that the Lancasters of Henrico Co, are one and the same family as those of York Co, presumably all descending from Gowan Lancaster who arrived in America in the 1600s. See http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/henrico.html
We only have one Henrico line tested past 12 markers and we lost contact with the other person, so one of the investments our project’s supporters should consider is upgrading him to confirm the pattern here. These two families together make up for a lot of all American Lancasters.
3. Our other big American group in table 2.
The main part of these descend from Robert Lancaster or Lancashire of Surry Co and Isle of White Co. See the page put together by co-admin John E Lancaster: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Robert%20L%20of%20Surrey%20...
They have already been connected successfully to the Bucks Co Quaker Lancasters, http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Bucks%20Co.html who match in turn with a family who, like them, came from the Birmingham area in the English midlands.
This latter family is another one currently stuck on 12 markers, which it would benefit the project greatly if we could make sure this was upgraded. We originally lost contact with the participant, but now we have contact with the family. We are hoping that between the family and perhaps with the encouragement of other project supporters, we'll manage an upgrade soon.
All these lines were suspected to come from Northern England. See Tony's webpage http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Quaker%20Lancasters.html
Well, last night (not yet showing on any public webpage) we received a new match to this increasingly large group, this time for a family from Kendal, in the northwest of England. This is very exciting news! We have two other families from this important Lancaster area (see http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/De%20Lancasters%20of%20West... ) but this one is so widespread, and it seems so old.
This new result is another one which is only 12 markers. Again, it is in the interests of Lancaster genealogy to upgrade if we can find a way.
4. The Maryland Catholic Lancasters. http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/maryland%20lancasters.html
Lancashire Records Office is very slowly filling its overseas will copy orders, and Lesa now has hers. I have already received a trickle of information which seems to confirm two things so far:
Captain John at the top of the family tree seems to be the son of another John, who was married to a Catherine.
Comparison of wills seems to make it more certain than before that we are dealing with a branch of the Rainhill Lancaster family. http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/The%20Lancasters%20of%20Rai...
In closing, remember that all sorts of participation and help and support are needed and many possibilities are summarized here: http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/participate%20Lancaster.htm . And thanks to everyone already involved!
In any case if you have any ideas or questions or comments or whatever, please feel free to contact me on Andrew.lancaster@skynet.be
Best Regards
Andrew Lancaster
Lancaster DNA project
http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/