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    <pubDate>2010-07-13 14:36:04Z</pubDate>
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      <title>"Living" comme prénom</title>
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      <description>Bonjour,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Je recherche des documents sur mon arrière-grand-mère qui s'appelait Agnès Levasseur. Suite à une recherche sur votre site, tous les détails sur elle sont correctes sauf que comme prénom c'est indiqué "Living" alors qu'elle se prénommait Agnès.&lt;br&gt;Pourquoi?</description>
      <pubDate>2010-07-13 14:36:04Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>Dear Jackie ,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Would love to have what info you have . I am a member so could view your tree if you are in agreement . I believe that Edwin the son of Edwin And Clementia may have married Kathleen Madgwick . This is the Edwin I am searching for . Edwin and Kathleen had 3 children on of whom John Madgwick Living married Valerie Down in Wiltshire in 1961 . I am trying to find some Living Livings from this line . Kathleen Madgwick was born in Dominica and her father John Alexander Madgwick was born in Antigua . I have quite a bit of info on the Madgwicks and have a letter written by Valerie to a relative in Antigua in the 1970's stating that John was working in Jamaice as a Water Engineer . &lt;br&gt;Look forard to hearing from you .&lt;br&gt;Regards ,&lt;br&gt;Phillip&lt;br&gt;Antigua</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-29 21:24:25Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>I too have the same Edwin on the 1911 census with parents Charles &amp;amp; Clementina, so I do believe we have a link.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have not traced Edwin down through his marriage to current generations, but I do have a lot of detail about the Living family going up the line.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe Edwin was the youngest of ten children of Charles &amp;amp; Clementina, the others being Eliza,Charles, Mabel, Robert, Clementina, Frances, Maria, Madeline &amp;amp; Winifred born between 1879 &amp;amp; 1894.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Going back a further generation, the family came from St Andrews Holborn where Charles was born in 1848 the eighth of nine children of Edwin Living &amp;amp; Eliza Goodwins. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have quite a lot of detail on this part of the family who had a considerable amount of money &amp;amp; property (pity it didn't come my way)so if you are interested let me know &amp;amp; I will happily share with you. Also if you are a member of Genes Reunited I can give you access to my tree directly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Look forward to hearing from you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Kind regards &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jackie</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-29 21:08:57Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>Thanks David but cannot find anything there that helps at the moment . Will keep digging .Phillip Abbott , Antigua &lt;a href="mailto://abbottp@candw.ag"&gt;abbottp@candw.ag&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-27 21:19:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Living Family</title>
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      <description>There are quite a few of you on this board that talk of the name Edwin Living and therefore one would think that there has to be a relationship along the way. As indeed I suspect with the Living name. I am not sure how I link to you all. I did find this website which is where my family is buried. It contains quite a few Living records that I haven't seen anywhere else &lt;a href="http://www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk/newport/parish%20registers%20intro.html" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.recordinguttlesfordhistory.org.uk/newport/parish%...&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-27 21:10:46Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>I do not know who Edwin's parents are for sure but do believe that Edwin in the 1911 census with parents Charles and Clementina born 1896 may be the Edwin I am looking for .He was born in West Ham . The Edwin Living who married Madgwick had 3 children that I know of . Any leads would be appreciated . </description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-27 21:05:18Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>I have done a fair amount of research on the "Living" family and have some connections to the West Ham area although I cannot be positively link the Edwin/Kathleen  marriage in your post.&lt;br&gt;Do you have any further details about Edwin, such as parentage etc?</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-27 20:50:48Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>Dear David ,&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;I am tracing a Edwin Living that married Kathleen Marrietta Madgwick in 1926 in Romford , Essex . They had 3 children that I know of , Edwin born about 1929 in West Ham , Essex , John Madgwick born about 1933 and Mary W.  born about 1935 also in West Ham . John married Valerie J. Down about 1961 in Devizes , Wiltshire .&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Would greatly appreciate if you can shed any light on these livings .</description>
      <pubDate>2010-06-27 14:19:01Z</pubDate>
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      <title>? Living of Frederick Co Va</title>
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      <description>Need his name &amp;amp; the names of his parents &amp;amp; siblings. He was b abt 1780 &amp;amp; marr Elizabeth Anderson dau of Adam Anderson &amp;amp; unknown wife. Need children for Mr. Living &amp;amp; Elizabeth.&lt;br&gt; Thanks, Ollie</description>
      <pubDate>2009-12-19 17:23:02Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>According to “The Surnames of Scotland; Their Origin, Meaning, and History by George F. Black PhD, published by the New York Public Library in 1946, the name Living has a most certainly Germanic origin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“A Saxon (hence German) named Leving or Leuing appears to have settled in Scotland under David I (b. 1080, d.1153 and reigning around 1140).  He certainly possessed a grant of the West Lothian lands.”  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This root name exists in various forms in Pennsylvania among the German settlers there.  This item goes on much longer, but that is the gist of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Carole Living&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>There is also a French "Leving", not uncommon in Quebec.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe that all these sondex Livings are related.  Since you obviously have done a lot of research, the pronounciation is what is most important rather than the spelling.  Also, with the high number "Living's" in Pennsylvania points to more common usage in Germanic countries.  That is where it became a common Jewish name, like Loenstein.  in any event, my husbands line and yours goes back 1000 years in Scotland, if not even earlier.  Sounds like geneic drift.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think my husband, Jim, would be interest in participating in a DNA tracing.  I will get him to do it.  Is there a cost?  Have you had yours done and what did it show&amp;gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Carole</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>I will certainly check those web sites out.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The original Living (Henry Living) to come here actually went to Ottawa, Ontario,Canada.  He was born in London, England.  However, I do believe that they were from Scotland just because that is where the name originated in Britain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Carole</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>Will we ever really know?  I guess DNA is the place to start.  You are certainly the scholar on the Living surname.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Again, where is your home?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Carole</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Surname</title>
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      <description>I think Andrew has done a lot more scholarly research than I have so I think is more of an authority.  Your version of the name more fits my father-in-laws version as he too believed that it originated in France.    However, I think that is more because if the pronunciation than actual facts.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pronunciation is more valid than spelling anyway. Our posts back and forth exhaust about all I know about the name.  You should post a reply to Andrew too.  He has a DNA study going.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>Andrew:  where do you live?  Are you in the UK?  We are in Michigan, USA..&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;C</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>According to “The Surnames of Scotland; Their Origin, Meaning, and History by George F. Black PhD, published by the New York Public Library in 1946, the name Living has a most certainly Germanic origin.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;“A Saxon (hence German) named Leving or Leuing appears to have settled in Scotland under David I (b. 1080, d.1153 and reigning around 1140).  He certainly possessed a grant of the West Lothian lands.” &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All the variations of the Living name such as Livingston, Livingstone (these 2 actually come from Living's Town) Livingood, etc., come from this root.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This root name exists in various forms in Pennsylvania among the German settlers there.  This item goes on much longer, but that is the gist of it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Carole Living&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>Andrew, yes, I think is either of those two also bearing in mind that my father-in-law believed it was from the french.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Interestingly, around New Orleans and adjacent Texas area, there are quite a few "Living"s.  I would think this is from the french also as that is where the Arcadians from Quebec settled.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>In Quebec it is spelled Leving.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>Well, I guess it is all soundex anyway.  How it sounds is what counts, not the spelling.  In the 1600s Shakespear himself spelled his own name sevreral different ways.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>My husband would be interested but it is rather costly and it would be only to resolve some curiosity so I don't think he will.</description>
      <pubDate>2006-08-28 14:54:09Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>Hi Jackie&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Happy to hear from you. Please post some more details or send me an email to &lt;a href="mailto://dliving@talk.co.nz"&gt;dliving@talk.co.nz&lt;/a&gt;. Look forward to hearing from you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;David Living</description>
      <pubDate>2005-12-03 22:04:05Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>Carole&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If David's family joins too it will be more than just ancient genealogy, because you'll be able to compare to other Livings. (ie even if there is no obvious Scottish or Jewish indication, plain old genealogy will do alright!)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-21 21:50:17Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>That's us. You'd be welcome. And you can be a double member with a more Levine related project if that makes sense, so as to work with two groups of genealogical colleagues at once. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;More to the point, if we are getting Livings tested, you can compare to any others that join. Our project, having a wide range of surnames, if pretty much resigned to taking in a wide range!</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-21 21:49:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>I presume Andrew you are involved in this project. &lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/livingston_maclea_dna" target="_blank"&gt;www.familytreedna.com/public/livingston_maclea_dna&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;. Happy to provide a sample to the project if it is of interest.</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-21 19:48:37Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>There is a reasonable chance that genetic genealogy - in other words getting a male Living to join a surname project - might show a DNA signature which is more likely Jewish or more likely Scottish. Although of course many DAN signatures are so widely shared that they would not help in this way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just a thought.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-21 06:11:50Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>Just comment on French connection. The family stories passed down is that we came to England from France at the time of the Huguenots. Our name was spelt pronounced "Levine" but I do not know the correct spelling. At some point it was then changed to Living.</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-20 20:08:49Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>I guess anything starting with le or similar might be French, but then again what would then name mean? The wine? On the other hand it might be a French pronounciation of Levine (normally a Jewish name)?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Lev names all seem to have so many possible origins!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-19 16:07:39Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi everyone&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As mentioned before the Maclea/Livingston DNA project would welcome participants with the Living surname. Because the ancient roots of these and other related surnames is now unclear, we accept a wide range of surnames, with indeed the aim of clarifying which links might be real.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;See &lt;a href="http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Discussion%20Maclea.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Discussion%20Maclea.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-19 09:32:11Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Origin of the Living surname</title>
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      <description>Hi Carole&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am aware of Black's entry, and other reference works. The name Living could be a spelling of known versions of either the Anglo Saxon name Leofwin or the Gaelic aristocratic name which is behind the surnames Slavin, Dunleavy, and Maclea.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Fact of the matter is that at least until the 19th century the Maclea clan *and* the Livingstons of the lowlands both believed the name (including the name of the town and the original man who named it) had Gaelic history. I have looked everywhere for any objective reason why this theory is now rejected and have found none. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The reasoning seems to be as follows: Living who founded Livingston was living in a time when English speakers and French speakers from the south were being granted land, therefore he must be Anglo Saxon. I believe this is possible, maybe even likely, but unproven.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-11-19 09:29:51Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Surname</title>
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      <description>Hello&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think there are certainly many cases where Living is a version of the the surname more commonly written as Levine. However there was an old Anglo Saxon name of this form also, and there may be Irish/Gaelic origins for some Livings. As you will have read, my grandmother's family used the spelling for a while, but are now Livingstones. From what I can tell, the common pronunciations of Livingstone or Livingston at the time when many Scots started learning to write was probably very variable. In the Gaelic speaking part of Scotland, it was traditional to consider the name Livingstone to be an English version of the name Dun Sleibhe which could be pronounced Dun Livin (compare to Livin's Tun). The most common modern theory is however that the Livingstons in English speaking Scotland, whose name is connected to the town Livingston, really have their name to think on an Anglo Saxon named Leofwin who founded a tun or town (both words being Anglo Saxon). While old records make it clear that the tun was really an Anglo Saxon word (in one place it is even translated into Latin as villa, might Gaelic speakers have felt Dun to be a reasonable translation?) the ethnicity of this man named Living will probably never be certain. Dun in Gaelic meant hill, but could also refer to fortified towns just like we see with the Germanic word "burg" (berg, bury, borough etc).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2005-08-22 05:41:52Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Have been reading yours and Andrew's comments on the origin of the Living surname. I live in New Zealand. My family comes from Newport, Essex aparently. One of the stories past down is that we orginated from France at the time of the Huguenots. The name at some point was change from (the way my Grandmother pronounced it) Levine. But I read that that you had a french version as Leving. So am not sure. The only other piece pasted down is that we are some how related to H.G.Wells.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Anyway enjoyed reading your postings. Happy to corresponded.</description>
      <pubDate>2005-08-21 10:33:50Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi David&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;I have just stumbled across some of your old message boards on the "Living" family on Ancestry website as I have been researching this name for a number of years and Edwin Living (b 1811) was my GGG grandfather. &lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;As your message was a number of years old, I won't write too much of an essay, but if you are still interested, I would be happy to discuss further and/or exchange information.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Hope to hear from you soon.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;Jackie Bateman&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2005-08-06 23:11:05Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>Dear Carole&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am Australian, but I live in Belgium.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-07-09 16:07:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>What is your source for saying this? I think that it is an English name normally. The historians who say that Living of Livingston was an Anglo Saxon base this on the fact that the spelling Leving was common in England. It was derived from the older Leofwin. And many areas in England had important men of this name in the time of the domesday book. There are many more towns in England with Living components in them. Only one in Scotland.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, as I mentioned, the old parish registers which are preserved for Scotland are all on line and can be searched. The surname never appears until the 19th century. In England it appears in many regions - often regions where the name has been spotted amongst potentates in Anglo Saxon and "domesday" times. (But I think at least one of the ancient Livings, a missionary who was made a saint, had his name Anglicised from an Irish Gaelic name.)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The theory of Black and other modern historians is that the lowland Livingstons of Easter Scotland are also descended from such an Anglo Saxon Leofwin, while the story that there was a link to the Macleas is just a myth based upon the similar sound of names. What I have found however, is that this theory is actually not based upon any evidence any stronger the the similarity of names itself. So the question remains open.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-07-09 07:08:26Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>I am an Australian, but I live in Belgium.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew</description>
      <pubDate>2005-07-09 06:57:55Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>Hi Carole&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are you saying your husband's Livings were Scottish? That would be fascinating because I thought my Livings were pretty much the only ones apart from a few obvious immigrants.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;My own Y DNA is Lancaster, and I coordinate the Lancaster surname DNA project. I also sponsored a male relative of my grandmother Livingstone and the results can be seen on the Maclea/Livingston project results page, in group F:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://pages.sbcglobal.net/rlivingston1488/dna_table.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://pages.sbcglobal.net/rlivingston1488/dna_table.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also see:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.familytreedna.com/public/livingston%5Fmaclea%5Fdna/" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.familytreedna.com/public/livingston%5Fmaclea%5Fdn...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;...which shows that Livings are invited. Pricing and ordering information is there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And more concerning my group F and its Scottish relatives with other surnames is on a website I made:&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/MacWho_main.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/MacWho_main.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew Lancaster&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;PS my DNA is Family 1 on this page: &lt;a href="http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Lancaster.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://users.skynet.be/lancaster/Lancaster.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2005-07-08 18:29:38Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>Dear Carole&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I know this quote, but thanks.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've looked into your surname further since I wrote and I agree that the name Living was normally a form of the older name Leofwin which is as Anglo-Saxon as they come. And West Lothian certainly had Anglo Saxons. However, it seems very possible that the name sometimes has other sources. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For example, in my own family, which now only uses the spelling Livingstone, spellings such as Living and Leving have been seen, but probably only for half a generation. Before then it was apparently Levitch or Livadge - a form found only in Strathmore as far as I can see. (But the families in Strathmore also sometimes appear in the registers as Livingstones.) DNA tests seem to confirm however that this family really were Livingstones.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just as another example, I found a Living in England in the 1881 census who is a Jew born in Russia - presumably his name would normally have been written as Levine?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So, if the old clan myths had anything to them, what sort of Gaelic name might Living have had (just supposing). It turns out that the old Gaelic name Dun Sleibhe had a dimunitive pronounced just the right way, and Dun Sleibhe is felt by some highland genealogists to be the original name which lent itself to the patronymic which became Maclea. Maclea is the old surname used by the "highland Livingstones".&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;...of course the above only points to what might be possible, but the DNA test put an interesting spin on things as it seems to confirm my families own understanding of their history. As it happens, our DNA signature was a rare case where we could point to an extremely small number of families even close to it, and all are probably Scottish.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I wonder if any Livings would be interested to do a DNA test. They would be welcome in the Maclea/Livingstone project, in order to take advantage of the discount. If anyone is interested please contact me and I'll put you on the track.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Andrew&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2005-07-08 16:59:58Z</pubDate>
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      <title>One Scottish Living</title>
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      <description>My Livingstone relatives came from Scotland and believed that they were related to the highland clan of that name, also called the Maclea clan. DNA testing has made this pretty certain. But tracing the family tree is difficult because before the 19th century they used many different spellings. Amongst those is Living(e)/Leving(e). From what I can see, this is mainly an Irish name, with a strong south East English component? Perhaps just one ancestor just felt this spelling was a good one, as there was a military man living up the street in Edinburgh castle with this name. Apart from my ancestor I think there are native Scots in the old parish registers with this exact spelling. So I suppose there is no reason to assume that all Livings are related, but there is - for your information - a Livingstone DNA project on the internet and because Scottish and Irish surname history is all about name variants, they are very interested in accepting people with potentially related names. For one thing many of the clan legends speak of connections to Irish names.</description>
      <pubDate>2005-05-17 13:27:47Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Mariah Living</title>
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      <description>My ggggg grandmother is Mariah Living. She was born in Henham Essex England on 16 November 1767. She marrried Thomas Nottage Snr. It would be interesting to know if anybody is related.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rachel</description>
      <pubDate>2004-06-30 11:37:02Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Margret Marshall (Fersa)</title>
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      <description>I am trying to find my mother margret marshal (fersa) she emigrated to Canada in 1967 approx, i am desperatley trying to find her if anyone can help please reply</description>
      <pubDate>2004-01-18 00:55:00Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>Edwin Living, b Middlesex 1811, d Islington 1888, Freeman of the Guild of Tallow Chandlers, m Eliza Goodwins b Norfolk 1812, at St Mary's, Marylebone Road. There is a will for Edwin 1888 living (this always cause confusion!) at 36 Lorraine Road, Holloway, Middlesex.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Their son Stephen is my wife's greatgrandfather.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Does anyone have anything prior to Richard Living, b possibly 1768, m Mary Hunt (?).</description>
      <pubDate>2003-10-26 10:54:40Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living's from Wanstead, Essex.</title>
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      <description>Hi Shannon&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry I have only just seen message. We have a definite link if you look at the information I have on my family tree. Have a look at the website I have put up.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.schoolfirst.co.nz/josephliv/index.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.schoolfirst.co.nz/josephliv/index.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I look forward to hearing from you.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;David</description>
      <pubDate>2003-06-07 03:28:29Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Edwin Living and Eliza Goodwins</title>
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      <description>Thanks for the message Susan.  This is not my direct family but cousins on my father's side so it all helps to build the tree.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regards&lt;br&gt;Julie</description>
      <pubDate>2003-06-06 16:17:26Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Edwin Living and Eliza Goodwins</title>
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      <description>Eliza Goodwins was my Great, Great, Great Grandfather's sister.&lt;br&gt;She was born in Lammas, Norfolk, England - 1 of 13 children.  Her parents were Stephen Goodwins (spelt as Goodwin or Goodings on some records) and her mother Frances Amies.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-06-06 11:11:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Timothy Eric Wade-where is he?</title>
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      <description>I have been searching for my son's father now for almost 10 years.  My 10 year old, Patrick Stewart, would very much like to meet and possibly get to know his father.  I think everything child should know both his parents if it is at all possible and he is deeply troubled about not having a Dad.&lt;br&gt;T. Eric Wade would likely be living with his mother, Deanna Wade, or his spouse, Becky?, in AZ, OR, or CA.  If you think you have any info at all, please contact me.&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="mailto://Jwilsonl33@hotmail.com"&gt;Jwilsonl33@hotmail.com&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2003-04-28 16:59:45Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>Hi Jason&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;According to the IGI Edwin was christened at St Andrew, Holborn on 16 May 1811, son of Richard and Mary.  There is a marriage for Richard and Mary in 1809.  Edwin and Eliza were living at 36 Loraine Road, London (?) in 1881 with children Edwin aged 38, Eliza aged 40, Frances aged 34 and Ann DUNCOMBE , daughter, aged 28.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've spoken to Pauline, didn't realise she knew about you already!!</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-19 19:14:26Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Info which I have is that Charles' father was Edwin (no dates) who married Eliza (Goodwins) on 14.11.1833.  Edwin had three siblings, Richard (emigrated to Australia 1852), Eliza and Stephen.  Their father was Richard (d.1827).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If anyone can fill in the gaps - dates etc - I would be very interested.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jason</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-19 08:45:24Z</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Living Family</title>
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      <description>There are two Amy Chalkley's on the 1901 census website which assuming she still lived with her parents might give you this information.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.census.pro.gov.uk" target="_blank"&gt;http://www.census.pro.gov.uk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In terms of Charles Living it is working at which one he is on the same site but you know his father anyway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Somehow I think all Living's must be related but getting information prior to 1850 or working out how they are all related prior to 1850 is not easy.</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-18 23:52:40Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi David&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;No I'm sorry I can't help you here.  Charles b. 1848 is the earliest I have at the moment.  Jason and I are connected albeit very distantly.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-18 20:00:44Z</pubDate>
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      <description>Hi Julie&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I have emailed Jason before but as yet found no link. Do you know who Charles LIVING's (1848) parents were</description>
      <pubDate>2003-03-17 05:36:14Z</pubDate>
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