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LUTZ Hand P - Vietnam Wall section 9E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-18 11:28:40Z

LUTZ Hand P - Vietnam Wall section 9E

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LUTZ William - Vietnam Wall section 8E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-15 12:06:29Z

LUTZ William - Vietnam Wall section 8E

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LUTZ Gene M - Vietnam Wall section 7E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-09 10:45:57Z

LUTZ Gene M - Vietnam Wall section 7E

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Re: Lutz family information

whbsbb — 2012-04-27 07:43:43Z

name: John Lutz
gender: Male
event: Christening
event date: 07 Nov 1813
event place: LUTHERAN CHURCH,TOHICKON,BUCKS,PENNSYLVANIA
birth date: 11 Jul 1813
birthplace:
death date:
name note:
race:
father's name: Jacob Lutz
father's birthplace:
father's age:
mother's name: Margaret

from familysearch.org
This looks pretty good.

name: David Lutz
titles & terms:
event: Death
event date: 25 Mar 1933
event place: CharlesTownship, Portage, Ohio
residence:
street address:
gender: Male
death age: 76y 7m 0d
marital status: Married
race: white
occupation: farmer
birth date: 26 Aug 1856
birthplace: F..., Ohio
estimated birth year: 1857
burial date: 28 Mar 1933
burial place:
cemetery: ...
father: John Lutz
father's titles & terms:
father's birthplace: Pa.
mother: Catharine ...Berger
mother's titles & terms:
mother's birthplace: Ohio
spouse: Alice Lutz
spouse's titles & terms:
reference number: fn 18096
film number: 1992871
digital folder number: 4001875
image number: 113

name: Emma Gotshall
titles & terms:
event: Death
event date: 18 Jan 1926
event place: Canton, Stark, Ohio
residence: Canton, Stark, Ohio
street address: 1031 Rex Ave., N.E.
gender: Female
death age: 59y 1m 28d
marital status: Married
race: white
occupation: at home
birth date: 21 Nov 1866
birthplace: Ohio
estimated birth year: 1867
burial date: 19 Jan 1926
burial place:
cemetery: West Lawn Cemetery
father: John Lutz
father's titles & terms:
father's birthplace: Penna
mother: Catherine Wertenburger
mother's titles & terms:
mother's birthplace: Penna
spouse: Charles E. Gotshall
spouse's titles & terms:
reference number: fn 5721
film number: 1984079
digital folder number: 4021599
image number: 3055

This might be a clue to the name of the first Catherine. Note that in the 1850 census there is a daughter Caroline born about 1845:
name: Caroline Sapp
titles & terms:
event: Death
event date: 18 Mar 1917
event place: Ravenna, Portage, Ohio
residence: Ravenna, Portage, Ohio
street address:
gender: Female
death age: 75y 3m 11d
marital status: Widowed
race: White
occupation: Retired
birth date: 08 Dec 1841
birthplace: Ohio
estimated birth year: 1842
burial date: 21 Mar 1917
burial place: Ravenna, Ohio
cemetery:
father: John Lutz
father's titles & terms:
father's birthplace: Penna
mother: Catherine Miller
mother's titles & terms:
mother's birthplace: Ohio
spouse:
spouse's titles & terms:
reference number: fn 21153
film number: 1983937
digital folder number: 4028261
image number: 1103

And this might be the marriage information for John Lutz and Catherine Miller:
groom's name: John Lutz
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Catharine Miller
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 04 Mar 1830
marriage place: First Evangelical Lutheran Church,Carlisle,Cumberland,Pennsylvania
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: M50466-1
system origin: Pennsylvania-ODM
source film number: 823844
reference number:

Caution: There is another John Lutz married to a Catherine in Cumberland County, PA in 1850, 1860....He appears to have been born in 1810, but that is pretty close to 1813.

groom's name: John Lutz
groom's birth date:
groom's birthplace:
groom's age:
bride's name: Catharine Wertenberger
bride's birth date:
bride's birthplace:
bride's age:
marriage date: 16 May 1854
marriage place: Stark, Ohio
groom's father's name:
groom's mother's name:
bride's father's name:
bride's mother's name:
groom's race:
groom's marital status:
groom's previous wife's name:
bride's race:
bride's marital status:
bride's previous husband's name:
indexing project (batch) number: I08928-1
system origin: Ohio-EASy
source film number: 897628
reference number: p 82

Re: Lutz family information

micie66 — 2012-04-26 15:12:41Z

I am looking for the parentage of a John Lutz, born about 1813 in PA but then moved and settled in Stark county Ohio. He married possibly twice, both women were named Catharine. The first was Sayre and the second possibly Wertenberger. John fathered about 9 children, one named Daniel, who was deaf by age 2. The only solid information I have that tells me Daniel's father was John is a special census for deaf people's marriages. I'm really wanting to find out how John came to Ohio and who his parents were and where in PA. Thanks for any help.

Need help with Lutz name search

micie66 — 2012-04-26 15:06:33Z

I'm at a wall because of the man I'm trying to get past is named John Lutz. I'm not certain of a middle name or initial. He shows up on 1870 and 1860 Censuses with a wife and up to 6 children. He died and wife Catharine Wertenberger Lutz remarries to a Henry Keller. I can't find marriage records for any of these marriages. Almost all of the events occurred in Stark county, Ohio. I have one key piece of information on John's son Daniel that cites John's children but they never match up with the names on the census.

Any suggestions as to how I can find more information on these marriages?

Re: Help tracing the Lutz name

clcnana2 — 2012-04-24 20:07:00Z

Don't know if you still check this but we are also suppose to have an indian ggmother in our background. My grandfather was Theodore Carl Lutz, born in Evansville, IN.
His father was also named Theodore, married to Annie Geisser. Think this is any connection to your family?

Re: Arlo Lynn Lutz Minnesota???

KeStyles — 2012-04-18 12:48:26Z

I have Arlo Lynn Lutz born 27 May 1934 and died 25 Jun 2000.
He was the son of Howard (Dale) Lutz and Virgie Jean Adams. The family lived in Fairmont, MN. He had three sisters, Lavonne, Lee Vae, and Alice. I hope this helps.

Ken Styles

Re: Lutz family information

carolsteketee — 2012-04-06 17:16:31Z

Dear car39: I am looking for information about my grandfather Christian Lutz. He came to America from Poland/Prussia. However, he spoke German and the family thought of themselves as German. He lived in NYC and Central Islip, NY.

Thank you for any help you can offer.

Carol A. Steketee

Arlo Lynn Lutz Minnesota???

cedric2_1 — 2012-04-04 05:27:07Z

Does anyone know of an Arlo Lynn Lutz, Male?

Re: Lutz of PA

phamy76 — 2012-02-23 04:50:41Z

Somehow we are related?

Daniel shelly is my great great great great grandfather. i think i have enough greats.

Daniel is the father of Annie, who had Aaron, who had John, who had Shirley, who had Wanda, who had me!

Phamy76@yahoo.com

Re: Joseph Franz Lutz

lutzrj — 2012-02-22 13:45:47Z

Cary

The term stomach cancer is probably not accurate in 1861. That is how it was listed but I doubt it was diagnosed like we would today. That term was probably used to describe a lot of different ailments. Most likely a liver or ulcer disorder

As for the records in Alsace- Lorraine -- I learned german in college and have been over there several times. The records are almost imposible to trace- the best resource is mormon library in UTAH. They have the world's best collection of records for Europe on microfilm. Good luck getting in unless you convert. Also I am told that the Catholic church had pretty good records from that time.

My current approach is to find the Lutheran school that his wife attended in Nagold, Wurtenburg and see what records survived WWII bombings.

Re: Joseph Franz Lutz

carylutz — 2012-02-22 02:03:17Z

Oh, and by any chance, do you know the name of the city in Alsace that Joseph is from?

Re: Joseph Franz Lutz

carylutz — 2012-02-22 01:57:22Z

Thank you so much! I'm the son of Richard lutz from Denver Colorado. His father was Charles lutz, and his father was Francis, born in Keokuk Iowa. His father was Joseph lutz from Illinois. Well, you know the story :) that's strange though about the cancer. Both my father and grandfather Charles both died from cancer. Anyways, you've given me a great deal of information. :)

Re: Joseph Franz Lutz

lutzrj — 2012-02-22 01:40:28Z

Cary we are obviously related - I am son of Rollin J Lutz, son of Rollin T Lutz, son of J F Lutz, son of J Franz Lutz.

This is what I have put together so far

Joseph Franz Lutz was born and raised in the early 1800's in the Alsace Lorraine provinces of France. He is known to be schooled as an Architect. Little is known presently of his family or upbringing in Europe, however he met and married Caroline Louise Huber in 1852. Caroline lived across the Rhine River in Wurtemberg, which is now part of Germany. If they followed the path of the typical traveler they took a train to the port of LeHavre, France and signed on for the voyage aboard the ship Medora. They departed for America sometime shortly after the wedding. They arrived in the port of New Orleans in 28 Nov 1853 9 according to ship log. Ships were routinely crossing and the large migration of Germans had started with sailing times average about 6-9 weeks depending on weather. The first daughter, Caroline was born in 1853 in New Orleans about after arriving in the New World. New Orleans was primary way point for new emigrates and surffered from Yellow and Cholera epidemics during these years. Sometime after Caroline's birth the family made its way up the Mississippi River probably by Steam Boat to St Louis, Mo. The second daughter, Philomine was born in 1856. In the spring of 1857 Joseph relocated to Nauvoo possibly becuase of the cheap land abandoned by the Mormons on the trail of tears. He is listed in the early 1860 census in Nauvoo as a Carpenter with his wife and now four children having added David and Joseph in Nauvoo. In 1860 Joseph obtained his naturlization papers from the Judge in Nauvoo. Shortly after that he fell ill and died from Stomach Cancer in Jun of 1861. He is buried in the Old Nauvoo City Cemetery.

The Voyage Begins:
The most likely route for German immigrates in the 1850's was to travel by train from Wurtemberg to the port at La Havre. There in LeHavre they would have been booked by a shipping company aboard one of the may vessels sailing from that port. Records at LaHavre are sketchy and little remains unlike Bremen or some of the other German ports. Their ship for the voyage was the Medora, a packet (or passenger) sail ship . Although steamers existed at the time, they were far too expensive for emigrants to afford. Packet ships were sailing vessels built for speed. The captain was a seasoned officer who kept to a schedule. The first officers were tough and sometimes brutal. The sailors, called �packet rats�, were sometimes inexperienced . According to Piercy, the price of steerage passage to New Orleans ranged from �3 10s to �5 for adults to �3 to �4 10s for children between 1 and 14 (18 Three hundred and seventy eight members boarded the ship. The adult men loaded their own belongings
Sailing Conditions.
Overcrowding was common. To be placed in the same berth, or sleeping compartment, you had to be in the same family. A berth was 6 feet long. 18� of width in the berth was provided for each adult. Unmarried male passengers of the age of fourteen and older were berthed in the fore part of the vessel, separated from the other passengers The passengers provided their own bedding The toilet and bathing facilities were poor. According to ��emigrants preferred American ships that had two heads, or water closets, on each side of the deck. Even then these enclosures could smell like cesspools.
It was common to find stowaways soon after departing. The following year, 1852, recalls when a stowaway boy was found on the Ellen Maria. �When we went out to sea three days a stowaway made his appearance on deck. He hid among the coal. He was as black as any niger. He was poorly clad and worse treated all the way. He was a lackey to all the sailors and if he did not move at the moment when ordered he was helped with a kick from the toe of a heavy boot. But he was not entirely annihilated.�
They soon settled into a daily routine. . At 6 AM there was a wake up call. The passengers cleaned their part of the ship and threw rubbish overboard. At 7 AM, morning personal prayer was said and they ate breakfast. About 8 or 9AM, group prayer was held. At 9PM, lights were put out and another day was finished They held church meetings on Sunday and 2 or 3 additional times each week. Schools for adults and children were frequently held
The government of England required passengers to be supplied each week with 2 � lbs bread or biscuit, 1 lb wheat flour, 5 lbs oatmeal, 2 lbs rice, � lb sugar, 2 oz tea, 2 oz salt and 3 quarts of water daily. Children 14 and under were given half of this ration. The Mormons were given in addition, 2 � lbs sugar, 3 lbs butter, 2 lbs cheese, 1 pint vinegar for each adult weekly and half that amount for each 1 to 14 year old. Members were advised to bring potatoes, ham, dried salt fish, onions, pickled onions, preserves, cayenne pepper, baking powders, mustard, sherbet, carbonate of soda, lime juice, plums, and currants listed the food available on the Ellen, another sailing ship that left the same winter, in detail: �The rations allowed for each one, was 25 pounds of hard biscuit, (so hard, we had to take a hammer to break it), 10 pounds of flour, 20 pound of rice, 50 pounds of oatmeal, 10 pounds of pork, 5 pounds of sugar, 5 pounds of molasses, 1 half pound of tea, 2 pounds of cheese, 1 pint of vinegar, and three quarts of water, daily, but the other rations, were for the entire voyage.�
Storms at Sea.
According to the trip report, there were strong winds It was perhaps similar to the winds experienced by describes this experience as: �The ship rocking about like a cork and the water coming into the steerage. The hatch had to be put on and kept on for some time. In the afternoon the hatchway was opened and the brethren allowed on deck. At this time the Saints were rolling about, the boxes being turned over, pots capsized and dinners, meat, pudding and all rolling about. Everything one mass of confusion. describes a storm her ship encountered near the same time the Ellen Maria sailed as: �It was awful, yet grand, to look upon the sea. I could only compare it to the boiling of an immense cauldron covered with white foam, while the roaring of the winds and waves was like the bellowing of a thousand wild bulls.�
Birth and Death at Sea.
During the ocean voyage there were three births, three marriages, and four deaths One of the deaths was the fifteen-month old daughter of Apostle Pratt. It was common for many of the young and old to die during the voyage. These funerals left a deep impression on some of the Saints. describes the mechanics of these ceremonies during his voyage on the Ellen the same year: �Their bodies were sewed up in canvas, and a heavyweight was tied at their feet, then boards were placed on the side of the ship, in a slanting position, and the bodies were slid down the boards, into the sea., sailing the following year on the Ellen Maria, recalled a death, �She was sewed up in a sheet, a large piece of coal tied to her feet. �While the lowering of her body was being done, we watched her closely till she sank many fathoms down out of sight in the deep blue sea, and if anything is sad and impressive and that is calculated to leave an impression upon the mind, it is a funeral at sea.�
Experiences at Sea.
The Saints had their good times on the journey too. Most likely, the Shelley family enjoyed singing and dancing. recalls two years later on the Ellen Maria Mormons playing music and �� we had a dance on the Quarter Deck and several other kind[s] of amusement. The Saints as well as myself enjoyed themselves first rate.� It was also common to see wildlife. recalls in 1853 in his journal seeing porpoises and a whale.
Water Rationing.
Because the Ellen Maria was sailing to New Orleans, it undoubtedly became rather hot. sailing on the Bourn the same season said �I came on deck this morning before five o'clock, to enjoy the cool breeze, and see the sunrise. The heat is intense during the day and it is dangerous to be on deck with the head uncovered. Nearly half of our company are effected, more or less, with the prickly heat. The captain has supplied us with a large tub for the purpose of bathing the children, and the little ones are (many of them) dipped in it every morning. The men amuse themselves after another fashion. They put on a thin pair of drawers and pour buckets of water over each other, proving the benefit they receive by the increased healthiness of their appearance states the drinking water was so bad they could hardly drink it. It was common to have to ration the drinking water further. sailing near the same time on the Ellen stated: �On account of the length of the voyage the water went bad and as we were in a tropical climate we felt it severely. Two quarts per day for each adult was the allowance. It should have been three quarts.�
New Orleans.
After a two-month voyage, the Medora approached the mouth of the Mississippi River in early Nov. A tug would have approached and towed the ship to New Orleans. New Orleans is located 110 miles from the Gulf of Mexico Many recorded in their journals, diaries, and histories the various sights as they approach the city between 1851 and 1853. in 1851 said, �The mouth of the river is said to be 20 miles wide, and is mostly filled with dense growth of large bamboo canes, common to the tropics, leaving about six narrow clear channels. The one we entered (the best one) was not more than eight to ten rods wide. For many miles our course lay between the tall line of bamboo, with no signs of solid banks.� Farther north, he saw �The first dwellings � being built on piles, and only accessible with boats. The dwellers business was oyster fishing. The largest oysters I ever saw [were] being caught there. Some of them as long as eight inches and large in proportion.�
Just before New Orleans, recalls �Below New Orleans were large orange groves� They [oranges] were laying thick on the ground, also a full crop of all sizes and developments yet on the trees. Some of the Negro children threw some on board the vessel.recalls in 1851, �The houses of the planters are built in the cottage style, but large with verandas on every side, and beautiful gardens. At a little distance are the negro huts. From 30 to 50 on each plantation. They are built of wood with a veranda along the front, painted white, and mostly have either jasmine or honeysuckle growing over them. Each cottage has a large piece of garden ground attached to it in general appearance they are certainly very far superior to the cottage inhabited by the poor in England. also recalls �Groves of orange trees are very numerous; the perfume from which is very delightful, as the breeze wafts it toward us. Thousands of peach and plum trees are here growing wild and are now in full bloom.� She also recalls seeing wild geese, foxes, raccoons, and storks.
As the ship approached the dock on April 6th, the church leaders most likely warned the Saints about the dangers of �wharf thieves, and also the danger of getting into quarrels in a land where deadly weapons were carried � Most likely, many of the Saints slept on the ship until a steamer was ready to take them up the Mississippi River to St. Louis, as they did when the Ellen Maria landed two years later However, the Shelleys had enough money to take a short break in the City. Here [New Orleans] they saw many strange sights and products that were new to them. Mother [Charlotte Elsmore Shelley] mentioned in particular large, red tomatoes with which the markets were stocked.� However, they may have just looked at the tomatoes. According to Piercy, Mormon emigrants were cautioned against eating meat and vegetables after the long sea voyage in New Orleans
New Orleans, the �Paris of the Bayous�, was romantic, colorful, and exciting. It had an economy based on slavery, shipping, and cotton trade Many besides the Shelleys toured New Orleans. Some even lived there until they earned enough money to complete the trip. Many Saints recorded the sites they saw. in 1851 said, �The levee is � completely covered with bales of cotton and other articles of merchandise�� The wharves stretched for miles along the bank of the river went on to describe the City in much detail stating, �Some [houses are] as noble in appearance as any in Regent Street [in London]. �The Custom House, churches, and theaters are splendid buildings. �The roads themselves are not kept in order as they are in London. They are not paved. Just now the weather is hot and dry so in crossing them you sink in dust up to the ankles. � The sidewalks are from 16 to 20 feet wide, and very nicely paved with flagstones. They are raised 18" above the carriage road, so that they are always clean and dry. The streets are laid out in exact squares, crossing each other at right angles. The spaces between the streets are called blocks, thus on inquiring for St. Peter Street I was told it was 5 blocks further. in her journal also described the people, �The higher class of citizens � dress very handsomely in European style �I saw slave girls following their mistresses in the streets, clad in frocks of embroidered silk or satin, and elegantly worked muslin trousers, either blue or scarlet, morocco walking shoes and white silk stockings, with a French headdress, � composed of silk with all the colors of the rainbow � jewelry glitters on their dusky fingers (which are plainly seen through their lace gloves) and in their ears. Their only business in the street seems to be to follow the ladies, who own them, and carry their reticule. contrasts the residents with the Mormons when he arrived in 1851, �Every person seemed dressed in their Sunday clothes� Quite a contrast to many of our passengers from the farming districts of England, who donned their best knee breeches, tight leggings, laced up heavy nailed boots, smock frocks� to go onshore.�
New Orleans, being in the south, was entrenched in slavery. This was a new experience for the Mormons passing through. Many of them commented about it. In 1851, recalls, �A row of Negro women with arms around each other, proceeded by a dealer, who was offering them for sale in the street, seemed strange to us. They seemed careless and cheerful.� In the same year, recalls, �I also visited the female slave market � It is a large hall, well lighted with seats all around on which were girls of every shade of color from 10 to 30 � they were singing as merrily as larks.also stated that she couldn�t enter the male slave market because only men were allowed in.
There were many unsanitary conditions in New Orleans. Mosquitoes spread disease. Epidemics of Cholera and yellow fever took their toll. �In brief, New Orleans was a city of many facets � a cultural oasis, a thriving business capital, and a pesthole� (
Taking Steamboat Up Mississippi.
Within a couple days of anchoring at New Orleans, the US Customs officers would have come on board the Medora to examine the people and the luggage A Church leader in the meantime arranged passage for most of the Saints up the Mississippi on a steamboat called the Alexander Scott, one of the largest steamboats on the river. The Alexander Scott was a popular Mississippi steamboat in the 1840s ( It was built in 1842. Its dimensions were 230�x28�x7.8� According to Sonne, �This fine side-wheeler [Alexander Scott] had only one deck, a transom stern, a cabin above a plain head, and plied the Mississippi for about twelve years before being dismantled � as indicated in her registrations. In 1851 Mormons paid $2.50 for each adult, including all baggage, and half fare for children booked the Scott the same season for another group. He said: � I would recommend the �Alex Scott� as a good, commodious, and safe boat, commanded by a good captain of the name of Swan. I am persuaded there is no better nor safer boat on the river.�
describes her steamboat, the Concordia, in detail. The Scott was probably somewhat similar. She said, �It is flat bottomed �The engines and boilers are on the deck, the stokehole quite open on each side and the firemen have an interrupted view of the country. The head of the vessel is pointed the stern circular. There is a clear passage of 8 feet in width all around the boat, except where it is stopped by the paddle boxes, and those have good steps both up and down. From this which is called the lower deck you ascend by a handsome flight of steps to what is called the hurricane deck, which is an open gallery 5 feet wide, entirely round the vessel with a low railing next [to] the water and roofed overhead. There are chairs here for the accommodation of the passengers. On the inner side of this gallery is a row of cabins with two doors each, one opening onto the gallery the other into the saloon, which is 105' in length by 30' in width. Here the cabin passengers dine. The ladies cabin �is splendidly furnished with sofas, rocking chairs, work tables and a piano. The floor, as well as the saloon is covered with Brussels carpeting. There is also a smoke room for the gentlemen, opening out of the saloon forward, into which are card tables, etc., and in front of this there is a large open space. The whole width of the ship roofed over like the gallery and furnished with seats. From this is another staircase, ascending to the upper deck, on which are built several neat cabins for the officers. The one forward encloses the steering wheel. Here stands the pilot completely secured from wind and weather; to the wheel two ropes are attached which are conveyed downward to the lower deck. Each rope is then fixed to a lever which works the rudder. The whole arrangement is very simple and the elevated position of the pilot (40 feet above the lower deck) enables him to see and avoid any collision with snags, which are pretty plentiful still, though the government has done much toward clearing them away, by sending out what they call snag-boats with men in them, to either drag away the snags by force, or let them float off; or by sending down divers to cut them off close to the mud. I do not know whether you know what I mean by snags and sawyers. A snag is a large tree which has either been uprooted by a hurricane or loosened by an inundation and at last been blown into the river. The heaviest part, of course, sinks to the bottom and it becomes fixed in the mud, generally in a nearly upright position and as the foliage decays, the naked trunk remains above the surface of the water. A sawyer is the same thing, with the exception that the top of the tree is below the surface, and of course more dangerous, and steamboats coming in contact with them are likely to have a hole knocked in the bottom in a moment. They then generally sink at once. Scores of steamboats have been lost in this manner. However I have run away from the upper deck, which is not a very pleasant place except in cloudy weather, and you are seated at an elevation of 40 feet from the river, although, on a moonlight night the view is delightful, at least to such an admirer of wild scenery as I am. The tops of the two funnels are 10 feet higher. They are placed forward and when there is a headwind, the upper deck is covered with hot cinders. They burn wood, not coal, and when the steam gets low, or they want to pass a steamer in advance of them, the firemen throw on rosin by shovelfuls.�
describes a similar but somewhat different steamboat for the lower class passengers, �The steamboats on the river are huge monsters resembling old castles, having good saloon or dining rooms and are very commodious - that is providing you have plenty of money, but [steerage] passengers who are not overly stocked with this commodity must be satisfied with a pallet or a straw mattress laid upon a rack� Yuma prison beds [where he was later in prison for polygamy] are at least a class higher than what I had on the St. Paul.� He also describes vividly how slaves were used to provide the firewood for the boilers, �In those days wood was used for fuel for the steamboats and it was niggers who entirely done the loading of the wood and they worked constant and earnestly, often singing as they marched in single file over the plank to deliver their heavy loads of wood from their shoulders -- being the first men I ever beheld in slavery, who had no liberty, but just to do as they were told or have a raw hide applied to their almost bare backs ��

describes a similar experience where a passenger falls into the river the same year. However, the man describes was an experienced riverman. She states, �The boat was stopped instantly, and every effort made to save him, but to no purpose. As he sunk he threw out his pocketbook, which was picked up by one of the men, and given into the hands of the clerk, in order to be restored to the relatives of the deceased. It contained his address and $275.00.� According to Elizabeth was also carrying a great amount of money. He states, �Grandfather Shelley had a considerable sum of money when he left England. The purse containing the money was intrusted to the care of Grandmother who secreted it on her person where it remained until the morning of the tragic accident when she turned it over to Grandfather with the request that he take care of it.�
To the na�ve person, it would appear to be easy to get out of the slow moving Mississippi River. According to who wrote his book on pioneer emigration just two years later in 1853, �Women should be careful not to attempt to draw water from the river in buckets. The current is so rapid, that when added to the speed of the steamer through it, it requires the strength of a man to procure the water with safety. Many lives have been lost in this way, which should be a sufficient warning to those who still purpose to ascend these rivers. In most of the boats there are pumps fixed, so that there is seldom any real necessity for drawing water by hand.� Sonne stated that drownings were not unusual suggests that Elizabeth�s heavy water-soaked skirts drew her under the water.
Riverboat Experiences.
Theft was quite a concern for the Saints. relates the following from his trip in 1853, �This evening Elder Kendall desired me to appoint the watch for the night as there was a very unruly crew and things had been taken the night before so it was thought prudent to have a strong watch. We appointed 8 of us �� Later in his journal he states ��before we came to Memphis when they tried to make some more confusion. One of them began to cry and shout so as to alarm all the passengers. I desired all the brethren to keep to their posts for I could see it was a plan made to get us together while the rest stole something. But this they could not do. Brother informed the mate of their proceedings and when we arrived at Memphis this man was put on shore.� But the attempted theft continued. recalls, �This evening it was thought wise to have a stronger watch so I appointed 18 men to watch over all the luggage inside and those that were on deck as there were some very suspicious men on board. One man was noticed to try to get under the berths and at other times his mates would try to get all they could.�
The steamboat would occasionally stop for wood to fuel the boiler. It also stopped at towns or villages where the Saints would buy bread or other food
St. Louis.
On April 16th the Scott arrived at St. Louis. described the food markets available in St. Louis in 1851 as ��extremely good. They open at 4 o'clock every morning except Sunday. All kinds of meat, poultry and fish are very cheap. The fresh meat is good, but not so large and fat as in the English markets. Vegetables and fruits are abundant, and of great variety. Groceries, wines, and spirits are very cheap.� She went on to describe where the Saints met too, �The Mormons have six meeting rooms. They have also the use of the Concert Hall in Market Street on Sunday, which holds three thousand persons, and I could but feel amazed to see that spacious room filled to overflowing and the staircase and lobby crowded with those who could not get inside. They have an orchestral band, and a good choir, ten of whom are trebles.�
According to the residents of Saint Louis were generally tolerant of Mormons except for many excommunicated Mormons who lived in the city. Near the time the Shelley family arrived, a local newspaper, the Missouri Republican, published on May 8th, ��Mormon emigrants from England �whose funds generally become exhausted by the time they reach [St. Louis], generally stop here for several months, and not infrequently remain among us for a year or two pending the resumption of their journey to Salt Lake � There are at this time in St. Louis about three thousand English Mormons � they attend divine services twice each Sunday at Concert Hall�We hear frequently of Mormon balls and parties, and Concert Hall was on several occasions filled with persons gathered to witness Mormon theatrical performances
A disadvantage of being near the Mississippi were the rampant insects and spiders the pioneers experienced. mayflies stunk up the summer backwaters and chiggers left ankles red, swollen, and itching While on a family trip in the summer of 2002, my three younger children experienced abundant mayflies, that made a tour of a steamboat in Keokuk less pleasant and we heard about chiggers biting the ankle of a girl in our nearby campground.

Re: Lutz name

carylutz — 2012-02-21 21:29:05Z

That's interesting that you say that. But I don't think that lutz was ever a kingdom. But I know that many place names in Germany and in France hold the name of lutz. Mostly around the Rhine area. Former Celtic province of Rome, and later the kingdom of the almanii. I'd be interested to hear information on the origins of lutz you've gathered. There are many nobility that hold the name lutz and Von lutz. But usually always of lower nobility.

Re: Joseph Franz Lutz

carylutz — 2012-02-21 20:48:44Z

Hi, I'm also researching the same Joseph lutz from nauvoo Illinois. I'm his great great great grandson. I'm curious if you had found the actual city in Alsace-Lorraine Joseph came from?

Re: T/Sgt. Melwood Lutz

jltlutz — 2012-02-18 15:34:50Z

I didn't know him personally. He was my grandfather's (Earl Lutz) brother. My father, William Emerson Lutz, was almost 4 years old when Melwood was killed. I remember my grandfather talking about how Melwood was killed in a car wreck on his way to see his mother when he returned home from the war.

I have attached a copy of his death certificate.

That's all I know...

Sincerely,
Jeffrey Lutz

Theodore Lutz of Evansville, Indiana

clcnana2 — 2012-02-10 17:08:58Z

Looking for info on Theodore Lutz born approx. 1866 Pigeon Forge, married Anna Geisser had Josephine, Emma, William,Fred,Carl.Had a was a blacksmith and had a machine shop. Uncle was a shoe maker and rest of family were farmers. Names unknown, parents unknown except they came from Germany and he was born in Indiana. Had a niece, Katie Stromberg living with them, Anna was born in Germany. He died in Evansville in 1945 and I believe she died about 1952-53. Have found several cousins but no info on Theodore or Anna.

Re: Lutz family information

mglutz1 — 2011-12-27 21:23:19Z

I have a unique wrinkle; I was adopted as an infant by a Lutz family, but a few months ago I found out that my birth father is also a Lutz. This is a happy coincidence, but I'd like to find out if there is some linkage between the two Lutz lines.

On my adoptive side I have traced back to a Great Great Grandfather George Lutz (b. 1816 in PA) married to Mary Stoneburner (b. May 1822 in OH). They had 6 Children, Isaac Aldace Lutz (b. July 1863 in OH) is my Great Grandfather.

On my birth side I have traced back to a Great Grandfather Joseph Lutz married to a Maria Frederica Schraedley (b. 1862). They had 6 children, Andrew Schraedley Lutz (b. 4 April 1885 in Middletown PA) is my Grandfather.

I have found no link between these two lines. Do you have any information that would help trace either back further?

Timothy J. Lutz, 60, of North East, pa,son of the late Gerard G. and Betty Jane Neth Lutz.

KENNELLYMARKA — 2011-12-27 14:41:33Z

Timothy J. Lutz, 60, of North East,pa,
passed away Thursday, December 22, 2011 at UPMC Hamot. He was born on March 10, 1951 in Erie, Pa. a son of the late Gerard G. and Betty Jane Neth Lutz. Tim was a self employed building contractor owning and operating Lutz Builders Inc. in North East, Pa. He enjoyed fishing and was very active with his two sons in the Boy Scouts of America. Tim was a 1969 graduate of Academy High School and Graduated from Edinboro State College in 1973. He is survived by his wife of 31 years, Sandra K. Lutz, whom he married August 23, 1980, two sons, Ryan and Joshua Lutz, both at home and one brother, Michael Lutz of Lake City, Pa. Friends will be received at the W. Tad Bowers Funeral Home, 92 S. Lake St., North East, Pa. on Tuesday from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Private services and burial in North East Cemetery will be at the convenience of the family. Memorials may be made to Fuller Hose Co., 68 S. Pearl St., North East, PA 16428.
( Erie Times-News on December 25, 2011 )

Re: Michael Lutz b1834, wife Anna Mary Mohrhardt, Manchester Michigan

makaylamohrhardt9 — 2011-12-26 01:03:04Z

my great great great grandpa is jacob mohrhardt

Re: Samuel Lutz family found - Casper - correction

joeykent — 2011-11-16 06:22:07Z

I am backing into this from John Lutz of Xenia, Ohio (1829-1911). In the history of Greene County, Ohio, his biography lists his father as Henry Lutz (1802-1877) born near Millersburg in Lancaster County, PA. Moved to Ohio in 1853. Henry's father is mentioned as being Nicholas Lutz who "spent his last years in Pennsylvania" and whose father emigrated from Germany. Could this Nicholas be the Nicholas you speak of and could the father be Caspar?

Re: Michael Lutz b1834, wife Anna Mary Mohrhardt, Manchester Michigan

IvyMohrhardt — 2011-11-06 02:10:35Z

Anna Maria Mohrhardt, born apr 13 1836 in Wurtembrg Germany, is my husband's 1st cousin 4 times removed. He's descended from Jakob's brother Christian.

Charles H. "Joe" Lutz, 84, of Jeannette,born,in Williamsport, a son of the late Charles and Anna Welteroth Lutz.

KENNELLYMARKA — 2011-10-16 01:25:57Z

Charles H. Lutz
Jeannette

Charles H. "Joe" Lutz, 84, of Jeannette,
passed away Thursday, Oct. 13, 2011,
in Forbes Regional Hospital, Monroeville.
He was born Feb. 15, 1927, in Williamsport, a son of the late Charles and Anna Welteroth Lutz. Prior to his retirement, Joe was a state police officer in Pennsylvania with the rank of corporal. He was a World War II veteran, having served in the Navy. Joe was a member of Ascension Church, and Knights of Columbus Council 1222, all of Jeannette, and the St. Vincent Assembly 918 4th Degree and former Color Corps member. Joe was a magician; professionally for the state police, and privately a member of the International Brotherhood of Magicians. In addition to his parents, Joe was predeceased by his wife, Angela Stoltz Lutz, in March of 2011; a sister, Rita Pencek; his in-laws, Hart and Amelia Stoltz; and a brother-in-law, Hart "Judgie" Stoltz. He is survived by his children, Debbie Bizich and husband, Mark, of Irwin, Donna Highlands and husband, Randy, of Jeannette, and Joe Lutz and wife, Cindy, of Greensburg; grandchildren, Jason Bizich, Joshua Bizich and wife Melissa, Ryan, Matthew and Lindsey Highlands, Andrew and Shannon Lutz; a great-granddaughter, Brielle Bizich; a brother, David "Jimmy" Lutz, of Easton, Pa.; a sister-in-law, Alice Masciantonio, of Jeannette; and numerous nieces and nephews. Friends will be received from 2 to 4 and 6 to 8 p.m. Sunday in the JOHN V. GRAZIANO FUNERAL HOME INC., 228 N. Second St., Jeannette. The St. Vincent Color Corps will stand guard from 6:30 to 7:30 p.m. Sunday in the funeral home, at which time a service will be held by K of C Council 1222. A blessing service will take place at 10 a.m. Monday in the funeral home chapel with Father John M. Foriska officiating. Entombment will follow with honors accorded by the Pennsylvania State Police in Westmoreland County Memorial Park, Hempfield Township.
(Pennsylvania - Pittsburgh )

Re: Martin Lutz of Seattle?

efjacobs_casa — 2011-09-26 04:16:33Z

Tom

I know this is like 9 years since I read this particular post, but as near as I can tell, my grandmothers brother and parents immigrated in the late 19th; probably 1881 or so...... Fathers name was Wilhelm Lutz; 24; his wife Ida Lutz 21; and son Wilhelm 6mo's ............ not sure if they ended up in Wisconsin or not.... I do know that my grandmother came across the prairie in a covered wagon and her bro Wilhelm served in the Rough Riders.........any info would be greatly appreciated

Jake Jacobs

LUTZ Werner E - Vietnam Wall section 1E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-09-14 15:55:41Z

LUTZ Werner E - Vietnam Wall section 1E

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Re: Lutz family from Shenandoah Co., VA

elutz22 — 2011-09-12 18:53:26Z

just realized this post was in 2000 but if your still looking leave a post and i'll check back soon

Re: Lutz family from Shenandoah Co., VA

elutz22 — 2011-09-12 18:49:50Z

hi my name is emily lutz and i was born and raised in shenandoah county va so i was suprised to see this post asking about info on your grandfather or great lol. the name doesn't ring a bell to me but i will def check around and see what i can find out. if i have any luck then i will let you know! i'll try and help as much as i can.

Re: Lutz family information

cnix46 — 2011-09-11 19:12:55Z

My 3rd grt. grandmother's daughter Katherine Hiell-Lutz married in 1985 one Fred K. aka Frank Lorenz Lutz or Leetz as some census records show. He immigrated to Ohio in Sept. of 1883 from Breman, Germany. Frank was born in Geppinger, Germany in Nov.1867. Do you have any info on this individual. I haven't found his parents info to date.

Earl E. Hiell, Cincinnati, Ohio
Eehiell@cinci.rr.com

My cousin Cheryl and I are working on the Hiell family tree.
Thank you.

Elizabeth Lutz, September 8, 1795-November 27, 1883

aleid1 — 2011-09-05 12:14:53Z

Elizabeth was married to William Lied/Leid/Leed who was born July 15, 1796 and died December 21, 1878. They are both buried at Muddy Creek Lutheran Cemetery in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. I am trying to find the parents of William, and also his brothers and sisters. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you need additional information, please let me know.

Thanks,
ART

Re: Lutz family information

lutzjm — 2011-08-02 17:55:46Z

Hi,

My great grandfather (Michael Lutz b.1888 / d.1965) and g.g.grandfather (Michael Lutz b.1865) were both Michaels and I am searching for more information. What's your connection ?

Thanks,
Jeff

Lutz Family

lutzjm — 2011-08-02 17:47:22Z

Hi,

My name is Jeff Lutz (Windsor, Ontario, Canada) and I am researching my family history. If anyone can help, I would appreciate it !
Here's what I have so far:
Matthias Lutz (b.1911 - Altker, Yugoslavia / married to Margaret Filippi / d.1979)
Michael Lutz (b.1888 - Altker, Yugoslavia / married to Sofie Gumel / d.1965, Austria)
Michael Lutz (b.1865 - Yugoslavia / married to Elisabeth Hornung / d.?)

The family is originally Scwabian. My father lived in Stuttgart and Ulm. My father (Reinhardt) and his family came over in 1957 ?

Thanks,
Jeff

Re: Lutz--other than German immigration

lutzjm — 2011-08-01 02:00:38Z

Hi, my relatives came from Yugoslavia (Altker) but originally Schwabian. Just started looking for my own Lutz family tree recently. I do know that my grandfather Matthias had step-siblings.

Jeff Lutz

Re: Lutz family information

CarolKaelin — 2011-08-01 00:36:47Z

wow Ursula -- who knew? I took some time off since my father's family was making me nuts -- they intermarried over centuries in the same town in Switzerland. I'll see if I can figure out how to do email on this

1834 marriage of Jacob Lutz to Barbara Mumma in Lancaster county, Pa.

midge1249 — 2011-07-30 20:34:58Z

MARRIED - On Sunday, the 11th inst., by Jacob Graybill, Esq., Mr. JACOB LUTZ, of West Hempfield, to Miss BARBARA MUMMA, of Rapho.

From the Lancaster Examiner & Herald of Thursday, May 22, 1834.

Looking for a Sadie Lutz

gwhite007 — 2011-07-18 21:09:42Z

Looking for any information on Sadie Lutz, she was from the State of WA, than she moved to Manteca CA, I think that she passed away about 1963..

Thanks

Karen

Re: Lutz family information

terryrhein — 2011-07-17 00:07:14Z

Hello cousin - I'm glad you found me.I have a copy of your grandmother's birth record from the NYC archives.That's where I came up with the name Ursula.My ggrandfather,Ben Lutz was Annie's brother.I have very little information about the Lutz Family.Could you contact me via email & we can compare notes.Thank you.

LUTZ Robert E Jr - Vietnam Wall section 2W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-07-15 17:41:40Z

LUTZ Robert E Jr - Vietnam Wall section 2W

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Re: Lutz family from Shenandoah Co., VA

jeannielipscomb — 2011-07-09 22:20:23Z

Came across your message which is obviously quite old but I wanted to respond because I do have a David Lutz in my family history from Virginia. Will provide more info if you are still seeking information.

Re: Lutz family information

jeffmacmaniman — 2011-07-07 01:12:42Z

My mother's maiden name was Katherine Lutz from Philadelphia, Pa. Her father was William Lutz, William's father was Charles Lutz also from Phila. Please e-mail me at jem731@hotmail.com if you have any info on them. Thank you. Joan

Re: Hesse Darmstadt Lutz's

maryjunelutz — 2011-07-06 21:35:20Z

i forgot to mention that all of mine was from perry,pike county, illinois......did you know that the is a lutz cemetery there along the road...there is only about nine sites there including john and elizabeth's grave site
maryjunelutz@yahoo.com

Re: Hesse Darmstadt Lutz's

maryjunelutz — 2011-07-06 21:29:42Z

my lutz are from hesse darmstadt also we must be from the same lineage.....my father john william lutz' had an uncle george born 1864.....i think his wife's namd was lenna my dad's father was john lutz whose father was leonard a brother to my george ....does any of this match your lineage?
maryjunelutz@yahoo.com

Re: Hesse Darmstadt Lutz's

maryjunelutz — 2011-07-06 21:21:23Z

your lineage is the same as mine......my dilima is i can't find out what elizabeths maiden name is.....do you happen to know?
maryjunelutz@yahoo.com

Re: Lutz family information

CarolKaelin — 2011-07-01 08:49:01Z

Well hello cousin, however distantly. I am the holder of the cemetery plots though. I'm Anna's granddaughter but I've never heard of her referred to as Ursula. I've just begun researching -- what would you like to know? (Not that I know much -- I'm the youngest by a lot.)

LUTZ Charles W. Sr.

Lace_Lynch — 2011-05-17 13:09:46Z

Charles W. Lutz, Sr., 87, of Columbus, Ohio died peacefully at home Friday, May 13, 2011.

He was the son of the late Samuel and Beulah Lutz.
He was born in the caretaker's home located in Greenwood Cemetery, Zanesville, Ohio (Muskingum County).

Charles was a kind loving man who loved to read and had a soft spot for animals.
He served for over 20 years in the United States Army.

Charles was preceded in death by his loving wife, Virginia, of 56 years; his sister, Rosella Lenhart ;and son-in-law, Gerald Wolford.

Charles is survived by three daughters, Eileen (Robert) Long, Charlotte Wolford and Vinita (Carl) Brinda; a son, Charles W. Lutz, Jr.; and brother, Jack (Barb) Lutz.
In addition he is survived by eleven grandchildren, Kevin, Karynn and Karl Long, Lee Wolford, Rochelle McQuiston, Jenny Adams, Mindy Chappalier, Shannon and Tyler Lutz, Lance and Claire Brinda; and ten great grandchildren.

Funeral services will be at 2:00 p.m. Wednesday May 18, 2011 with visitation one hour prior to services at Bryan & Snider Funeral Home 2318 Maple Ave. Zanesville, OH.
As per Charles's wish a cremation will follow his funeral service.

The family wants to thank HomeReach Hospice of Ohio Health for their support and knowledge and to Dr. James Lamb of OSU Medical Center for his many years of wonderful care.

Memorial Contributions may be made in Charles's memory to a Hospice of your choice.

To share memories and condolences with the family, visit Charles's memorial on-line registry at: www.BryanSniderFuneralHome.com

Arthur A. Lutz obit - 2011

cathygowdy — 2011-05-16 20:31:34Z

Arthur Lutz
NEWTON Arthur Alfred Lutz, 87, of Mays Chapel Circle, Newton passed away Friday, May 13, 2011 at Catawba Valley Medical in Hickory. Born Nov. 9, 1923 in Chicago, Ill. He was the son of the late William Lutz and the late Louise Mueller Lutz. He was a veteran of the U.S. Army and served in World War II. In addition to his parents, his wife, Mary McMillan Lutz, and a brother preceded him in death. Survivors include two sons, William Lutz and his wife, Debra, of Mooresville; Cliff Lutz of Mooresville; daughters Cheryl Nozzero and her husband, Daniel, of Summerville, S.C.; Renae Wyckoff and her husband, Robert of Lincolnton; four grandchildren; two great-grandchildren. The funeral service will be held Monday, May 16, 2011 at 11 a.m. in the mausoleum at Catawba Memorial Park in Hickory with the Rev. Freida Hobson officiating. Entombment will follow at Catawba Memorial Park. Memorials may be given to: American Legion Post 240 of Maiden. Visit www.burke mortuary.com to register your condolences. Burke Mortuary in Maiden is serving the Lutz Family.

Hickory Record, Sunday, May 15, 2011

Army Cpl. John W. Lutz of Kearny, N.J., - Korean War MIA

RIP2011 — 2011-05-04 16:14:23Z

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 295-11
April 12, 2011
Soldier Missing from Korean War Identified

The Department of Defense POW/Missing Personnel Office (DPMO) announced today that the remains of a serviceman, missing in action from the Korean War, have been identified and returned to his family for burial with full military honors.

Army Cpl. John W. Lutz, 21, of Kearny, N.J., will be buried tomorrow at Arlington National Cemetery. From May 16-20, 1951, Task Force Zebra, a multinational force made up of Dutch, French, and U.S. forces, was attacked and isolated into smaller units. Lutz, of the 1st Ranger Infantry Company, part of Task Force Zebra, went missing while his unit was attempting to infiltrate enemy lines near Chaun-ni, South Korea, along the Hongcheon River Valley.

After the 1953 armistice, surviving POWs said Lutz had been captured by enemy forces on May 19, marched north to a POW camp in Suan County, North Korea, and died of malnutrition in July 1951.

Between 1991-94, North Korea gave the United States 208 boxes of remains believed to contain the remains of 200-400 servicemen. North Korean documents turned over with one of the boxes indicated the remains inside were exhumed near Suan County. This location correlates with the corporal's last known location.

Analysts from DPMO developed case leads with information spanning more than 58 years. Through interviews with surviving POW eyewitnesses, experts validated circumstances surrounding the soldier's captivity and death, confirming wartime documentation of his loss.

Among other forensic identification tools and circumstantial evidence, scientists from the Joint POW/MIA Accounting Command and the Armed Forces DNA Identification Laboratory also used dental comparisons and mitochondrial DNA which matched that of his niecein the identification of the remains.

More than 2,000 servicemen died as prisoners of war during the Korean War. With this accounting, 8,001 service members still remain missing from the conflict. For additional information on the Defense Department's mission to account for missing Americans, visit the DPMO web site at http://www.dtic.mil/dpmo or call 703- 699-1169.

U.S. Department of Defense
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)

http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=14403

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LUTZ Joseph P - Vietnam Wall section 9W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-04-30 16:23:57Z

LUTZ Joseph P - Vietnam Wall section 9W

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Re: Lutz in Baltimore National Cemetery

Beachgirly98 — 2011-04-24 07:14:01Z

Perhaps he was in the war and was killed overseas? This happened in our tree as well. We had a cousin who was killed in Normandy during the war in 1944, and his remains were not received by his family until 1948.