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magennis/mcguinness south armagh

tjmcginnis1 — 2010-12-29 21:23:33Z

looking for relations in the south armagh area that immigrated to the states.... my oldest known ancestor is a michael mcguinness born around 1800.

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

tjmcginnis1 — 2010-08-01 20:52:55Z

no problem. i think at some point we're related. don't ask me how but it makes sense. my family came from armagh

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

Shayshouse — 2010-08-01 20:48:50Z

Thank you very much for the link, am still taking in all the information. Thanks again. Carol

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

tjmcginnis1 — 2010-08-01 16:14:53Z

http://books.google.com/books?id=3Tc3AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA9&...

let me know if the link doesn't work. the names you mention are all names from the original line in down. this book should help you.

Re: Francis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

DonnaMorris20 — 2010-03-08 16:58:15Z

Thank you. I did not know of this service. Good luck on your research. Donna

Re: Francis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

MMagennis — 2010-03-08 10:14:40Z

Sorry, no, as I said, my cousin who did the work was really just tracing the direct line, not the siblings, until much later than the ndates you are interested in.
I had a quick look on the Irish Genealogy site and it seems that the digitisation of records does not have your Francis in Co Down either, but it would be worth registering, as most digitisation projects will gradually cover more and more.

https://brsgenealogy.com/ifhf/index.php

All the best

Re: Francis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

DonnaMorris20 — 2010-03-06 20:48:16Z

I do know of Magennis Castle. Francis was born 1817-1813.
Do you have any Francis in County Down in anyrecords whether related or not? Magennis is differenyt and very few have that spelling so it is possible to be related. thanks donna

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

MMagennis — 2010-03-06 19:57:06Z

Gathered the papers from my sister- cousin has traced male line back to John who died 1747, but only includes siblings from the generation that were born to his grandson John Magennis born approx 1739 and died 14 Sept 1818.
This John's children were John, Terence (my grandad's grandad), Bernard, Murtagh and Richard. So if there is any link, it must be further back than my cousin has traced.
These were Co Down Magennises, and Down is the ancient family seat where what used to be called Magennis castle is. (http://wapedia.mobi/en/Dundrum_Castle)
So we're undoubtedly related some way or other!

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

MMagennis — 2010-03-04 17:43:35Z

I'll go over to my sister's house at the weekend and dig out what she's had from my cousin James, but as I say, I'm not sure how far back he goes.

I see your Francis was born July 1817, which isn't that long ago, so might be lucky.

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

DonnaMorris20 — 2010-03-04 17:25:17Z

TELL ME MORE! Francis left Ireland in county Down 1841, landed in randolph NY then to Albion MI. see my site magennisclan.familytreeguide.com tell me more of your familyin Ireland. Donna kolohamorris@aol.com

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

DonnaMorris20 — 2010-03-04 17:21:25Z

Francis came to America 1841. Came from County Down on a scooner then to Liverpool on the Warsaw. He landed in Randolph in NY then to Albion MI He was in Civil War at age 44 first MI cor of Engineers and Mechanics. I had lot of
Wrights in the Revolutionary war even related to george Washington and John Mc Cain. thanks for writing. Donna

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

MMagennis — 2010-03-04 17:17:00Z

Sorry, both - shouldn't have raised your hopes - I have no research experience and no long back-history of our Magennises. A cousin has done some ancestry research but does not go back anywhere near that far.

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

DonnaMorris20 — 2010-03-04 16:58:32Z

Francis sailed from County Down but we can't find where he was born in Ireland I have Randolph NY and Albion MI for places he lived in MI. He was in the civil war at 44. Thanks for writing. Donna

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

Shayshouse — 2010-03-04 16:08:39Z

Several years ago two of my brothers and youngest sister went to Ireland, county Down, but could not find a connection. They had better luck in county Limerick with our Sexton line. All of my McGinnis cousins have tried in different ways but still no luck. Our Francis came to Pennsylvania and served in the Revolutionary War, his descendts are in VA, KY,Michigan and am sure many more states, just haven't heard from them yet. One of my cousins published a book on our McGinnis line. My grandmother Sexton was Viola McGinnis. Carol Sexton Blevins you can contact me at bcblevins@msn.com if you want.

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

MMagennis — 2010-03-04 15:10:27Z

Oh, my Magennises are still in County Down! I thought you meant you couldn't find any Magennis in Co Down, not that you'd failed to establish the link with your own tree.
Have you been to Co Down?

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

Shayshouse — 2010-03-04 14:50:23Z

My Francis Magennis, McGinnis came to USA in 1700's, have found no connection to county Down but family lore is that is where he came from. When did your Magennis immigrate and to where. Who knows we may be distant cousins.

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

MMagennis — 2010-03-04 08:30:22Z

Sorry haven't read threads in full, but I am a Magennis from County Down, where my family originates.

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

Shayshouse — 2009-06-28 17:24:51Z

Still have not found any McGinnis connection to county Down. Have several other cousins looking but they have not found any either. But will check looking and hoping. Carol

Re: Fraqncis Magennis sailed frm county Down to England to US.

DonnaMorris20 — 2009-06-28 00:43:34Z

Three years since your reply to my message have you found out anything on your Francis magennisw? I would love to find his family in Ireland. find any magennis wiht a son named Francis. good luck with your hunt.

Re: Charles Byron Magennis articles in "Strike" here it is

DonnaMorris20 — 2008-04-29 00:01:58Z

"Strike" How the Furniture Workers Strike of 1911 changed Grand Rapids
Most intriguing of all was the fact that thre league hired a full time writer to submit letters to the editors of the daily newspapers, salting the mine of public opinioon. for two year's the leagues hired pen was Charles B. magennis, a street-wise political operative who had worked for George Ellis and was familiar with all the angles of ward and preceinct level politics. In the months before an election, Magennis turned out thousands of words in what he called "educational articles" for the league. To insure their continued utility, he suggested that the pieces remain undated and perhaps shortened a bit. He argued that shorter articles, appearing more frequently on the editorial pages with a variety of signatures, would go further in demonstrating a "larger consensus of opinion."
He also issued the following caution: "By the way, would it not be wise not to mention in your accounts the checks you send me? Reporters (might be) apt to get onto it and it wouldn''t help us any." Rather than keep a straight set of accounts in this regard, why not, "if consistnt, (have) some individual....sign (the) check instead of the league." While the league officers may have seen politics and business as synonymous, governed by the same rules. Magennis knew better. Indeed, his wisdom paralleled that of former mayor Carroll A Sweet, who had earlier admonished the league never to reveal its executive leadership or the authorship of any of the materials it distributed throughout the city.
For the election of April 1917, Magennis wrote forty "articles" exceeding 16,000 words, for which he received regular payments of at least $20, although no record exists of the total amount he was paid. Hatten's understanding with Magennis, regarding fees and services never became explicit, except for those occassions when Hatten would order up another "$10 worth of work". Payment came sporadically, and Magennis chafed at the shabby treatment, often writing the league to press for payment. "By the way," ran a familar refrain, "if convenient to you may I take the liberty to suggest that a check at the near date would be very acceptable, as I am uncomfortably short this week."
In the spriing of 1918, Hatten wrote in appreciation of Magennis's splendid letter" to the Evening Press, promising to retain him for $10 and offering assurances that "we may be able eventually to do better as the needs and facilities materialize." Despriate for some cash, Magennis reminded his boss,"re the ten dollars, it will be accetable anytime, or would a statement be required? Avoid thisw if you can - unless just for services" Hatten strung out the $10 and $20 payments to Magennis at a time wehn his own salary as the leagues executive secretary exceeded $4,000 a year, an amount more than twice the average skilled worker's yearly wage.

Re: Charles Byron Magennis articles in "Strike" here it is

DonnaMorris20 — 2008-04-29 00:00:31Z

Charles Byron Magennis articles in "Strike"

DonnaMorris20 — 2008-04-22 17:27:47Z

I found a book that tells about the "Strike of the furniture workers in 1911 in Grand rapids and how it affected the life of Grand Rapids MI, and in it it tells of the ingenuity of Charles B. Magennis wo wrote articles for the Crezton News and other poloitical exposes I did not know about. I found this today just by putting the name Chalres B. Magennis in the google search. I found 5 sites with his son Bud - Chalres B. Magennis jr in it.. Sadly I found an obituary of one of my cousins wive's Mother this week died in Holland MI. It is amazing to me what one finds in research. even if it was done years ago, try looking again new things are added daily. my new e mail address is kolohamorris@aol.com

Magennis search finished.

DonnaMorris20 — 2007-03-30 23:08:38Z

My 60th birthday is in 20 days. I'll preseent the finding of 1,504 people top my Pollok/Palmer/Magennis/Atwood families in MI. I am so grateful for the help I have received in this from various Pollok Magennis persons. I am proud of my cousin who set up the articles and papers to a museum in Williamston MI I'll visit April 30 of the artrifacts. I have changed in my path and grown iwth the inclusion of this genealogy stretching my mind amd memory and feelings further than I could imagine I could. Others have their path they have grown on and I am happy for the times those paths crossed. I owe a debt of thans to one in particular who has aided me more thananyone else in my growth and in my collection of this genealogyu. I did a lof of this for her. I will miss the research. Enjoy. and thanks much more on my site on http://magennisclan.familytreeguide.com that pictures ahve been given to me of ancestors I'd not have had had not this one joined

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