Medcalf - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Medcalf family from Co. Wicklow, Ireland and Ontario, Canada

annsimons626 — 2012-03-07 21:48:35Z

Hello, Gillian. I'm sorry but I cannot find anybody by the name of Elder in the Medcalf family tree. The only Helen I could find is Helen Medcalf, 1860-1875. She was born in Chewton, Victoria, Australia but died at the age of fifteen. I don't think I can help you otherwise unless you can give me an idea of any dates but as I have already said I have no record of the name Elder. Regards, Ann.

Re: Medcalf family from Co. Wicklow, Ireland and Ontario, Canada

Gillian_elder — 2012-03-05 22:56:38Z

hello, my name is gillian elder. i was referred by someone on this site that said you had my grandparents on your family tree! john elder and helen elder. i cant view it because i dont have a paid for account. i was wondering if you knew who john elders parents were? if you have any questions feel free to ask.

George E. Medcalf of Portsmouth, NH 1944

drbrownlee — 2011-01-07 06:59:13Z

George is pictured in the 44-G Gremlins, yearbook of the 307th Army Air Forces Flying Training Detachment, Hicks Field, Fort Worth, Texas. He is a flight cadet. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Re: Medcalf family from Co. Wicklow, Ireland and Ontario, Canada

root4leafs — 2010-08-31 13:07:34Z

Hi Judy,
My aplogies for not getting back to you sooner. I am in the middle of working on my husband's line and have been told by a now deceased member of the family that his great grandmother (Mary Jane Sophia Medcalf Cowan 1863-1914) was connected to the William and Martha Medcalf family. As yet I haven't found the connection and as there were quite a number of Medcalf's in the Toronto area during her lifetime it is slow going.
I have accumulated a fair bit of information on Francis H. Medcalf, including a number of bio's on him, but so far cannot connect the two. Mary Jane's father was said to have been an Isaac Medcalf.
Any help you can give to prove/disprove this theory would be much appreciated, and of course, any info that I might have that would be of help to you I would be willing to share.
Thanks ..........Dawn
P.S. You can contact me via my email root4leafs@yahoo.ca

Re: Medcalf family from Co. Wicklow, Ireland and Ontario, Canada

judydennis1 — 2010-08-19 17:56:04Z

I also have a William and Francis Henry among other Medcalfs. Let me Know more and we'll compare notes
Judy Medcalf Dennis

Re: Medcalfe/Metcalf Co.Wicklow

annsimons626 — 2010-08-18 07:30:10Z

All I know is that my family lived in the Braintree, Essex area around the late 1700's onwards until the late 1800's. Abraham Medcalf was born in 1790 and I can't recollect him having a brother called William living in Ireland - did William move to Ireland when he got married?
I do know for a fact that our Medcalf family were a family of butchers. Hope this may be of some help.
Kind regards, Ann Simons.

Re: Medcalfe/Metcalf Co.Wicklow

judydennis1 — 2010-08-16 23:11:57Z

Susan
I have in my tree Martha & William Medcalf from Delganey, County Wicklow, Ireland. They emegrated to Canada in about 1819. They Had a daughter Catharine and several sons. I don't know anything about her. Do you thhink that she mignt fit in. Let me know.
regards
Judy Medcalf Dennis

Re: Medcalf family from Co. Wicklow, Ireland and Ontario, Canada

judydennis1 — 2010-08-16 22:49:43Z

I am a relative of William and Martha Medcalf fom Delganey, County of wicklow, Ireland. They had sons Francis Henry 1803-1880, William relocatd to Chehalis, Washington state, John who lived in Bayham Township, Theophilus who moved to Marion, Wisconsin.Edward who lived in Bayham Township. If any of these people fall in with yours contact me and we can share info.
Judy Medcalf Dennis

Re: Medcalf family

annsimons626 — 2010-04-01 17:10:23Z

My ancestors are Abraham Medcalf born either 1789 or 1796 who lived in Bocking, Braintree, his son was Alfred, my great great grandfather, and his son, Jethro, was my great grandfather. I live in Braintree not knowing 21 years ago that my ancestors were there years ago. A lot of them went to London in the mid 1800's and many of them were butchers.

Re: Medcalf Family Tree

annsimons626 — 2010-04-01 17:02:18Z

I have just read your message - was your great, great grandfather named Alfred??

Re: Medcalf Family Braintree Essex

redfootedpanda — 2010-03-26 08:11:46Z

Hi Ann,

Wow that is amazing that you live in Braintree now all those generations later. Have your family always been in the same area? Hopefully not still butchers?

For the children of Abraham Medcalf and Amy May I have Alfred 1827, Charles 1828, Ralph 1831, John Alder 1934, Agnes 1844. This is mainly obtained from census records.

I must admit that it has been a while since I looked with any detail into this line. I don’t have much going back from Abraham but I did see an interesting note that Amy May was possibly Jewish. Know anything on that?

I did hear that there was a picture of Abraham but have not seen it. Would love a copy it you have one.

I can provide a fair bit of info on John Alder if you are interested. He lead a very interesting and varied life here is Aust. Lived by the seat of his pants his did! He is one of my more adventurous ancestors.

In brief - At the age of 19 John immigrated to Australia arriving in Melbourne on the ship “Hope” in July 1855. His brother Charles had also come out to Australia earlier. John was probably loured here by the promise of easy wealth from gold. Upon his arrival John tried his hand at gold mining based at Golden Point at Castlemaine. He must not have been successful as he returned to his profession making a living using his butchering trade.

He married his first wife Catherine Gibbon at Castlemaine in 1856 when he was 21. John states his occupation as butcher not goldminer. Possibly by this time he was working for his brother Charles in his slaughtering business. It is unknown what happened to Catherine or if there were any children from the marriage. In early 1860 John is shown as still residing at Castlemaine. He was hospitalised for a month in Jan/Feb.

The next record of John shows him in Ararat employed as a butcher. In 1866 he married Florence Frewin at Ararat. He was 27 and she was 17. Permission from the police magistrate was required. In 1867 his room and butchers equipment were sold at auction as a result of insolvency.

John and Florence would have a large family of twelve children. They would move many times while rasing their family. They resided for a while in Ararat after their marriage, then near Bendigo by 1868, Elmore by 1871 and finally Yarrawonga by 1884. Four of their children would die in childhood. Three children died during the time they lived at Elmore - in 1876 a daughter Florence aged 5 years with breathing difficulties and in 1881 two boys, John and William, within a month of each other from diphtheria aged 4 and fifteen months. After moving to Yarrawonga their eldest daughter Alice died from a heart condition after a painful four month illness just short of her 20th birthday in 1887. In Yarrawonga John worked for two and half years for McCrabb as a butcher shop hand. In March 1888 the business was taken over by Patallo. Two weeks later John fell ill and was unable to work for a few days. Patallo dismissed him. John took the matter to court and won. He then worked as a pig dealer for a period. 1888-1893 Florence is shown as owing a house at Lynch Street Yarrawonga and then from to 1884-1885 in Telford Street Yarrawonga.

Eastern Australia was in the grip of a depression and hence John would have had to go where any work could be found. It is believed that John went to Western Australia during this time hoping to find it rich on the gold fields. He died at the Oven's Benevolent Asylum, Beechworth on 6th April 1899 from paralysis influenza. He was aged 65 years. The details of his death were registered by the asylum and his death certificate states that he was married but the details were unknown. He was most likely either trying to find work or away pig dealing at this time. Florence would die over thirty years later in her mid 80’s at Sydney at the home of her daughter Ethel.

Lisa
redfootedpanda@bigpond.com

Re: Medcalf Family Braintree Essex

annsimons626 — 2010-03-22 16:12:53Z

I think Abraham Medcalf born 1796 was my great, great, great grandfather, Alfred my great, great grandfather, his son was Jethro Medcalf, his daughter was Florence Medcalf (my grandmother) and her daughter is Elleen Medcalf Martin (married name Burley) born 1916 and still alive. I know that Jethro Medcalf was a butcher and a lot of his family were. I live in Braintree, not knowing until a few years ago that my ancestors were born nearby. Abraham Medcalf is mentioned in the Braintree & Bocking History as a butcher and cattledealer. There is a 1826 picture with him in it with other Braintree dignitaries. I have Charles Medcalf born 1828 (he went to Australia and died in 1889) Ralph born 1831, Alfred born 1834, and Emma Agnes born 1843. I do not have a record of a John Medcalf (as you will notice I make it that Alfred was born in 1834). Jethro's son, Jethro moved to New Zealand about 1920. Hope this info will be of help to you. I look forward to hearing of any further info you may have. Regards, Ann Simons.

Re: Driver Medcalf family

xbambi9x — 2010-03-20 14:08:13Z

Hello, your family have really intreged me recently. they are burried in all saints chuch in hertford. i will try to get back to you with names and dates.
thanks x
amber x

Susannah Medcalf

elainecollier1 — 2010-02-09 17:03:09Z

My gg grandmother was Susannah Medcalf. According to various census returns she was born about 1801 in Lambeth, London. She married Jeremiah Newbound in 1821 in Clerkenwell, London, and they had 7 children. Susannah died in 1881 in Alms Houses in Southwark, London. Does anyone have this lady sitting in their family tree? I am trying to find information about her and would love to know who her parents were and whether she had any siblings.
Many thanks, Elaine

Re: James Medcalf of Ky married to Mary Rebecca Rizer

beckiinin — 2009-10-27 20:13:22Z

Do you have their children's baptismal info?

obit for Amanda wood Medcalf

nccthorp — 2009-10-27 10:34:41Z

I am not related but I found this in a book I have from Spencer County Indiana.

Re: James Medcalf of Ky married to Mary Rebecca Rizer

smokymnp — 2009-10-26 16:22:56Z

I can not help with the James Medclaf at this time but am interested in the Rizer side. Just beginning to look into and believe Rebecca is a great aunt several time over but what I've found has children of a different name

Re: Medcalf Family Tree

cliftonz1 — 2009-10-05 20:49:00Z

Dear Charles
Also a reply to an old message... I am descended from the Braintree Medcalfs as well. I think I am also descended from the London Medcalfs that you were seeking. I have few details and no dates. My great-grandfather was Jethro Medcalf (known as Black Jeff) who was 6' 4" and weighed 24 stone. He married Ellen Medcalf and they had a "string" of butcher shops and hotels in the east end of London. These details came from my late father. My grandfather was Jethro (possibly Henry Emson) Medcalf (Ellen and Jethro's son) who came to New Zealand. He married Hannah Jacobsen (my paternal grandmother) and they had one child, my father Jethro Eric Medcalf (1919 - 2004). Hannah was originally Swedish and her family lived in Poplar, east London. My father had three children - 2 sons and a daughter (me!). I would love to find more details (and a family tree) for my branch of the Medcalf family. I also have photos of all family mentioned in this post plus (obviously)family history post 1919.

Cheers
Linda Clifton (nee Medcalf)

Re: family search

fester67 — 2009-09-10 23:03:00Z

Dawn, if you still access this then let your partner (husband by now?) that I am his brother. Reply to this email address or call 0775 495 1019

Simon Medcalf

Re: Presley Medcalf born davies co,KY..married Elmira Jane Knott

ClassAct915 — 2009-07-08 20:35:57Z

I also have a Presley and Emma Medcalf head stone. I'm not sure if there is a connection

Re: Presley Medcalf born davies co,KY..married Elmira Jane Knott

ClassAct915 — 2009-07-08 20:31:32Z

I have a head stone with their names on it as well as the name of two of their children on it.

You can contact me at ClassAct915@aol.com

JOSIAH MEDCALF

lorrainesaun — 2009-06-08 16:05:00Z

HI I'M LOOKING FOR ANY INFO, GOING BACK IN TIME, ON JOSIAH MEDCALF BORN ABOUT 1835 BISHOPSGATE LONDON, A SEAMAN WHO DIED 1874. HE WAS MARRIED TO SUSANNAH HUNT AND HAD THREE BOYS JOSIAH WILLIAM B.1864, JOHN THOMAS B.1866 AND JOSEPH B.1869. HIS FATHER WAS THOMAS MEDCALF, A TAILOR, WHO WAS DEAD BY THE TIME JOSIAH GOT MARRIED IN 1864. WHO JOSIAH'S MOTHER IS I DO KNOW AS I CANNOT FIND ANY RECORDS OF HIS BIRTH. AN INFO MUCH APPRECIATED. PLEASE REPLY TO MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, IF YOU WISH, AT lorrainesaun@aol.com

JOSIAH MEDCALF

lorrainesaun — 2009-06-08 16:04:05Z

HI I'M LOOKING FOR ANY INFO, GOING BACK IN TIME, ON JOSIAH MEDCALF BORN ABOUT 1835 BISHOPSGATE LONDON, A SEAMAN WHO DIED 1874. HE WAS MARRIED TO SUSANNAH HUNT AND HAD THREE BOYS JOSIAH WILLIAM B.1864, JOHN THOMAS B.1866 AND JOSEPH B.1869. HIS FATHER WAS THOMAS MEDCALF, A TAILOR, WHO WAS DEAD BY THE TIME JOSIAH'S GOT MARRIED IN 1864. WHO JOSIAHS MOTHER IS I DO KNOW AS I CANNOT FIND ANY RECORDS OF HIS BIRTH. AN INFO MUCH APPRECIATED. PLEASE REPLY TO MY E-MAIL ADDRESS, IF YOU WISH, AT lorrainesaun@aol.com

James Medcalf of Ky married to Mary Rebecca Rizer

KathleenRizer21 — 2009-03-17 01:12:31Z

Seeking further details on the family of James Medcalf who married Mary Rebecca Rizer in 1818, Nelson Co., Ky. James Medcalf was the son of Ignatius Metcalf sr. By the 1850 census the elder James Medcalf and son James are in Edmonson co, Kentucky. So it would seem Rebecca Rizer Medcalf had died by 1850.

A list of the children of James and Rebecca Medcalf would seem to be: Elizabeth b. 1825, John and Sarah both born early 1830s, James b. Feb 1834, and Nancy b. 1840.

Re: Presley Medcalf born davies co,KY..married Elmira Jane Knott

bailey1799 — 2009-01-12 15:23:46Z

I am also searching for information on Ada Pearl who was married to James Savage Owens. I am doing the Owens tree. All that I have on them is that they had a son named John A. Owens born about 1908 in Indiana. The son was not listed in the 1920 census, perhaps he had died. I would like to hear from you concerning their family.

Re: MEDCALF: England to Minnesota

karenmedcalf80 — 2009-01-11 11:45:02Z

Hi Deb, Sorry for the delay in request for information. I have information that can be added to your tree on some living Medcalfs, I have also managed to get in contact with some more Medcalfs on Facebook who are in the bloodlines.
Regards
karen
karen.medcalf@yahoo.com.au

Re: Medcalf Family Braintree Essex

L_E_White — 2008-06-17 06:09:38Z

Dear Lisa, Yes I have the same names as you, Sabrina Bettridge Nee Medcalf, father Brian Charles Medcalf, Thomas Barrand medcalf, Charles Ralph Medcalf, Charles Medcalf and Abraham Medcalf. please contact me direct, skbettridge@hotmail.com

Re: Driver Medcalf family

MedcalfSusan — 2008-05-25 08:59:49Z

Hi, I would be very pleased to have and to share any info on the Driver family tree. Thanks so much

Re: Driver Medcalf family

MedcalfSusan — 2008-05-25 08:53:53Z

Hi, thanks for your message. Yes I would love to have any information you have on the Driver family. Thanks so much

Re: Medcalf Family

ryle2700 — 2008-05-22 20:18:06Z

New email address:
kryle@vcn.com
Kathyren Mudd Ryle

Re: Delphine Medcalfe from Kentucky

ryle2700 — 2008-05-22 20:16:20Z

New email address;
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Re: Medcalf (e)/Metcalf(e) of Ky

ElizabethMcculley809 — 2008-05-07 18:25:12Z

Mary, I am looking for Medcalf in Ky. I am looking for John Francis Medcalf b 19 Sept 1825 d Apr 1912. Father, Ignatius Medcalf b ca 1786 Ft Boone, Hardin Co, Ky and mother, Agnus Catherine Hough b ca 1802. Francis married Frances Bowman. Do you have any info on these people?

Re: MEDCALF: England to Minnesota

dadargay — 2008-04-27 17:02:03Z

Hi Karen-

Please contact me at pitufo@comcast.net. I have received a lot of things from Walter and Bertha's granddaughter, and she does not have as much from your line, so I am thrilled to get more information!

Deb Dargay
New Hope, Minnesota USA

Re: MEDCALF: England to Minnesota

karenmedcalf80 — 2008-04-27 12:47:53Z

Hello! Walter John Medcalf Senior and Junior are my grandfather and great grandfather in law. I may be able to get some material on either of these men, I have visited Walter John and wife Dulcie M White's gravesites here in Australia but did not know Walter Senior and Bertha also immigrated out here until today. I have seen you have done a massive amount of research on this family. Another lady, Ethel Medcalf, Walter John Juniors daughter, is also on this site, but has very limited online material. Not sure if you hve been in contact with her.
Regards
Karen Medcalf

Re: Medcalf Family Braintree Essex

redfootedpanda — 2008-04-06 22:36:52Z

I would love to hear from you. I can be contacted on redfootedpanda@bigpond.com.

Thanks

Lisa

Re: Medcalfs of Essex, England

Its_a_D_not_a_T — 2008-04-05 09:37:31Z

Hi,
I have info on these Medcalfs.

Re: Medcalf Family Tree

Its_a_D_not_a_T — 2008-04-05 09:35:37Z

Hi I have info on your Medcalf branch.

Re: Driver Medcalf family

Its_a_D_not_a_T — 2008-04-05 09:33:33Z

I have info on the Drivers, I can pass it on if you would like it.

Re: Medcalf Family Braintree Essex

Its_a_D_not_a_T — 2008-04-05 09:31:29Z

I have information on this family of Medcalf and can put you in touch with direct descendants.

Joseph Medcalf (B=c.1814) of Reading, Berkshire

JB9331 — 2008-03-22 00:38:12Z

Joseph Medcalf born c.1814 married Mary Ann Butler born 1819, daughter of John and Hannah Butler of Reading, Berkshire. They had three children: John Charles (1842)who died in infancy, Mary Ann Elizabeth (1844) and Sarah Ann (1846). This last name has many spelling variations. Would like to hear from anyone researching these lines. Thank you.

Medcalf Family Braintree Essex

redfootedpanda — 2008-02-02 08:29:53Z

I am searching for information on the Medcalf family of Braintree Essex. They were principally butchers, slaughter men and cattle dealers.

Jacob b. 1740
Abraham b. 1766
Abraham b. 1796

Then his children that I have identified so far:-

Alfred b. 1827
Charles b. 1828
Ralph b. 1831
John b. 1834
Agnes b. 1844

Many thanks for any assistance you can provide.

Lisa Smith
Sydney, Australia

Re: Driver Medcalf family

MaryAnneLusted — 2007-11-14 19:40:47Z

Hi, I am the 3rd great grand daughter of James Driver Medcalf. I believe Thomas was his father. I have traced back through to James, but Thomas does ring a bell from my research. I'm willing to share the information I have

Mary Medcalf & Joseph R Robinson/Robertson - Bourbon Co., KY

thutchison101 — 2007-08-18 03:36:03Z

Looking for information on Mary Medcalf who married Joseph R. Robinson (maybe Robertson) on July 24, 1833 in Bourbon Co., KY

In the 1850 Harrison Co., KY (next door to Bourbon)there is the following family which I believe is the same people mentioned aboved:

Rainey Robison b abt 1807 KY
Mary b abt 1810 KY
Elizabeth b abt 1834 KY
Joana b abt 1836 KY
Susan b abt 1838 KY
Sara J b abt 1840 KY
Martha b abt 1842 KY
Andrew J b abt 1844 KY
Mary A b abt 1846 KY
Emiline b abt 1850 KY

Any info would be greatly appreciated on this family.

Tracy

Medcalf,Medcalfe in Ky

mamaw03 — 2007-07-20 14:07:16Z

Does anyone have info on the father of Wesley Medcalf who was born in 1866 and died on Apr.3, 1886? Wesley had 2 sisters, Martha J. and Sarah, and a brother Franklin (Frank).

Medcalf family from Co. Wicklow, Ireland and Ontario, Canada

root4leafs — 2006-11-17 14:31:24Z

Hi
I am looking for info on my husband's line which is said to include a Mary Jane Sophia Medcalf(e) or Metcalfe. I have a Robert Cowan born Quebec living in Toronto, s/o of Robert & Catherine Cowan marrying a Mary Jane Sophia Metcalf d/o Isaac & Catherine Metcalf. The Medcalf/Metcalfe line is said to include somewhere in the mix a Francis H. Medcalf and a William Medcalf born in Co. Wicklow Ireland. Also included in the mix are Shaw & Cowan.
Any info would be appreciated. Thanks .... Dawn

Presley Medcalf born davies co,KY..married Elmira Jane Knott

dalejr1164 — 2006-09-21 15:24:51Z

I am looking for decendants of Presley Medcalf.
Children:
Amos Lafayette (Mary Pauline Taylor)B:03-20-1861
Anna Evalina B: 06-29-1863
Bertice Maxwell (Law Ellen Thomas) B:08-27-1868
Charles Edgar B:03-18-1871 D: 08-16-1872
Arthur Donaldson (Orma Lee Jeffries) B:06-27-1873
Ada Pearl (James S. Owens) B:08-29-1881

My Great Grandfather was Bertice Maxwell

I have that Presly was born in Davies County, KY and Married in Dale, Spencer, Indiana and Died Dale spencer, Indiana

Driver Medcalf family

MedcalfSusan — 2006-09-16 12:49:27Z

Hi, I am looking for members of the Driver Medcalf family.
My grandfather was Percy Alfred born 1882 in Hackney Middlesex,
his parents were Thomas Driver Medcalf and Louisa Jane Diaper,
his brothers were Thomas, Albert, Ernest and Sidney, sisters Ada (died at 1 years of age) and Ellen.

I can only find information on Ellen - birth of Edwin Guy Tiffin, but would like more information about Ellen and any of the brothers and sisters marriages, families etc etc.

MEDCALF: England to Minnesota

dadargay — 2006-07-31 02:21:21Z

I am looking for members of the family of Benjamin Medcalf. He was born in 1832 in Middlesex, England, and died in 1887 in Islington. Married to Anne Jane Harvey in 1854. They had the following children: Benjamin Earnest, Walter John, Ann Elizabeth, Frederick George, Henry (Harry) Heardley, Emma, Edith, Edwin (twin), Edward (twin), George, Florence, Georgina and Louisa Maud.

Most of the family emigrated to US in 1887 aboard the ship Italy. Most of them stayed in Minnesota.

I have been visiting graveyards here in the Twin Cities and have been able to find the graves of several members of this family. Most of those who came in the 1880s are buried in Lakewood Cemetery in Minneapolis or Oaklawn in St. Paul. I have photos of all graves that we found.

I would like to make contact with any members of Benjamin's family and share information.

METCALF(E) /MEDCALF/ MIDKIFF

deeph45 — 2006-06-13 14:24:27Z

METCALF(E)/MEDCALF/MIDKIFF –

My ggrandfather, Edward Francis METCALF, was born October 18, 1871 in Harrisburg, PA. Edward’s death certificate list his father name as John, b. AL, date unknown; mother’s name unknown, b. PA. Edward married Margaret Jane “Collie” SKELTON in Jackson Co., AL in 1893. I am trying to find any information on this family prior to1893. Family stories mention coal miners and Black Dutch heritage. Edward’s brothers are William W. born PA - 1874, Henry C. born PA -1876, and possibly a John and George.

Edward and Margaret’s children are: Delbert b. 1894, Dewey b. 1898, Mamie G. b. 1902, Zada b. 1904, Hubert b. 1906, and Hattie b. 1909. All children were born in AL. Dewey and Hubert moved to Texas around Mt. Pleasant area after 1930. Hubert worked for a Gas and Oil Refinery there. Mamie, Hattie (and possibly Zada too) went to Oklahoma City area. They took their mother, Margaret to OK after Edward died in 1935. Margaret is buried in Cleveland, OK. Delbert went to Oklahoma, Texas, and California but settled down in Jackson Co., AL.

Mamie married (FNU) Summer and had twin boys, Clyde and Claude before going to OK. Last known, Claude was living outside of OK City. Delbert married Julia Maynor in Jackson Co., AL around 1913 and had nine (9) children. Dewey married Zola (LNU) in Jackson Co., AL and had at least three (3) children.

I have more information on this family after 1893 but can not seem to find anything before Edward’s birth (1871) and why they returned to AL. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you.

Medcalf, Manchester UK

Carolyn14 — 2006-05-29 10:59:32Z

I am researching the Medcalf family of Chorlton on Medlock, Barton in Irwell, Manchester & Hale