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Re: Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

JanetD600 — 2012-04-16 03:45:04Z

I AM STILL TRYING TO FIND OUT INFO ABOUT MY DADS SIDE THEY WAS FROM CHARLEROI PA MY GRANDFATHER WAS FROM THERE HE WAS JAMES ROBERT MUCKLE BORN 9/4 1895 OR 1896

Re: Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

JanetD600 — 2012-04-16 03:40:03Z

my grandfather was George Muckle born in 1895 in PA but i do not know who his parents were yet still doing research myself

Re: Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

williamstracyj — 2012-02-09 13:14:39Z

Hi Keith
I have been doing some digging and the two families are unrelated. At the moment I do not think that your wife's family are related to the Charles b.1822 in Northumberland.

I have found your William on the 1911 census with Martha and John James in Lancaster. They are there in 1901 and 1891 as well. In all instances, William is listed as being born in Lancaster.

Searching on Williams born about the right time in Lancaster on previous census records brings up William (Muckel) with father James and mother Elizabeth in the 1881 census and William Muckell with the same parents in 1871.

I can't find anything for 1861, but there is a James Muckle of about the right age and birthplace in the 1851 census with a father John and mother Isabella in Blackburn.

To make sure, I would suggest that you get the marriage certificate for William and Martha as that will show the name of the fathers. You can serach for the references on http://www.freebmd.org.uk/. There's also a reference there to a William Muckel birth in 1873 in Lancaster and this will show the mother too.

Regards

Re: Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

williamstracyj — 2012-02-09 08:07:50Z

Hi Keith

I think that we have two different William John Muckles.

I have the 1911 census which has my William John in it, and my grandfather Thomas b.1898. Wiliam is married to Hannah (Herriot), was born in Houghton le Spring in 1975 and is a plumber.

I have traced his lineage back through census records and BMD certificates through to Chatton, and the Charles mentioned in the original post.

Perhaps we could continue to get to the bottom of it by email and share evidence - my email is williams.tracy.j@talk21.com

Regards

Re: Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

madscotsman69 — 2012-02-08 22:08:12Z

Hi Tracy, I didn't quite follow your reply,
I was looking for information on Charles muckle B 1812 , died 1863 who married Margaret Buchan in 1839. she was born 1816 and died in 1886
I know of 6 of their children.

Thomas was born in 1842 and married Elizabeth M ?
they had at least 7 children including William John Muckle born 1875 died 1933, He married Martha E Winder in 1896.

They have 5 Children
1 of these is John James Muckle who married Emily May Hunt , they had 6 children, Joan born in 1939 is my wifes mother.

Does any of this fall in with your tree?
I can't message you as my subscription has run out

Kind regards
Kevin

Re: muckle family

JanetD600 — 2012-02-08 21:41:23Z

WHERE ARE YOU LOOKING FOR MUCKLES AT WHAT STATE MAYBE I CAN HELP YOU OUT WITH DIFFERENT PLACES I HAVE FOUND INFO AT ALSO I FOUND THE MUCKLE CREST IT IS VERY NICE JANET

Re: Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

williamstracyj — 2012-02-08 08:28:06Z

Hi Kevin
I too am decended from this line and have loads of information on the Muckles.

This branch mainly came from Chatton in Northumberland, William's father was Thomas b. abt 1787 died and buried in Chatton churchyard.

From Thomas b.1842, my family is William John b.1875, Thomas b. 1898, and my father Thomas.

The Muckles were stonemasons, Thomas (1842) moved from Chatton to Cullercoats, probably following where the work was. His wife was Elizabeth Heslop from Chester le Street.

I think that you can message me from the site and we can share what we have.

Tracy

Charles Muckle - Margaret Buchan M 1839

madscotsman69 — 2012-02-06 00:10:51Z

Am looking for information on Charles who married Margaret Buchan who was born 1816 and married in 1839 , in Northumberland.
My wife is a descendant from them and am looking to expand the research,
their children were
Thomas Muckle 1842 –
Mary Ann Muckle 1844 –
John Chambers Muckle 1848 –
David Young Muckle 1852 –
Alice Muckle 1854 –
Margaret Muckle 1856 –
George Muckle 1860-

My wife is descended down Thomas's line who married Elizabeth Mary ? , unknown surname.

thanks

Re: muckle family

cromieclan — 2012-02-02 06:52:13Z

Hello Janet, sorry unable to help, I haven't any details of Muckle family in area mentioned.

Re: muckle family

JanetD600 — 2012-02-02 05:49:24Z

hello there my maiden name is Muckle my grandparents were from Charleroi Pa my grandfather was James R muckle he was born in 1895 still trying to find info about any of the Muckle in Pa. Would like to here from you with any info that you might have about the Muckle name. THANK YOU JANET MUCKLE DALTON

Re: Muckles in Co of Down Northern Ireland

JDwyer1580 — 2011-10-24 05:44:27Z

I have been researching my Muckle ancestry for many years and have been in contact with some of my distant cousins who descend from Thomas Aaron Green, brother of your great grandfather Albert Victor. The Green-Muckle family has scattered all over the world. I have found members in England, the US and Australia. Please contact me for more information.

Jerry Dwyer
Castro Valley, California

Re: Samuel I Muckle

H_Boutell — 2011-09-29 17:38:18Z

Whilst the names have a familiar ring, Mary, these are not on my lineage;Try the free site of "Ros Davies Co. Down, Ireland" where she has 250 000 names of folk from County Down. Good luck. Helen

Re: Samuel I Muckle

tingirl2 — 2011-09-21 05:04:42Z

Hi, I am a descendant of Hugh Campbell and Grace Muckle. I am wondering if anyone has been able to track down their parents and their place of birth.
I am unable to go further back although one researcher believes they came from Scotland. I have no proof of this. Thanking you in advance.

Mary

Would love contact from people from this line. I am a descendant of Thomas Muckle Campbell and Mary Ann Reid.

Re: MUCKLE FROM OIL CIYT PA AREA

pwhanny — 2011-09-08 14:59:49Z

Thank you for your reply. My Email is pwhanny@gmail.com. I certainly would like copies of the stones. I was planning to stop at the cemetary the next time I was in then Pittsburgh area as my son and daughter still live in Allegeny County.

I discovered today that John and Mary were married in Allegeny County, PA on Jan. 22, 1835 by a Dr. Presley.
I have been able to find out more about John and Mary than I have about Samuel, his son, who was my Great Grandfather.

I have not been able to track John beyound his birth, which was recorded in different records as between 1811 and 1813. I also have picked up on different records that his birth place was in Ireland, Scotland and one reference in England.

Because of the death of my father's parents while he was a young child the family was seperated and contact with his brothers was very limited until late in their lives. This makes it harder for me to track family history as I don't have as much direct family history to rely on. I am in my senior years myself, 68. and have lost all of the older generation, as well as many of the current generation, to question.

Sincerely,

Paul. W. Hanny

P.O. Box 283
Huron, Ohio 44839

Re: MUCKLE FROM OIL CIYT PA AREA

ngray46 — 2011-09-08 01:33:39Z

We are definitely descended from the same John and Mary Leslie Muckle. I have pics of the tombstones if you would like. John and Mary are buried with their daughter Emaline. She never married and was adult when she died. The stones are very worn and impossible to read from the pics. My OS crashed and I need to reload my Ancestry to be able to access info to tell you my direct line. If I remember right, I am John's son's Samuel's son John N's daughter Bertha Muckle Cain's son John Cain. If you would like the cemetery pics, contact me off the board and give me your email address. You can reach me at ngray46@aol.com.

Re: MUCKLE FROM OIL CIYT PA AREA

pwhanny — 2011-09-07 18:40:25Z

I believe that I also have decended from John and Mary Muckle of Old Allegeny. Their oldest son, Samuel Muckle served in the 13th Regt. PA Vol. during the war between the states then became a police officer in Allegeny City, PA. He had a son ,Charles, who had three sons and two daughters by Mary Stuart, his wife. When he passed around 1914 -16 and his wife, my grandmother, passed about 1920, my father was five years old and adopted by his aunt and uncle. His last name was changed to Hanny by adoption in 1935, My father,Joseph, had the two brothers, Charles and Lawarance that survived until about 1964 but the two sisters died in childhood.

I believe I just found where John Muckle , his wife and a daughter are buried. They are in the old Mt. Union Cemetary, 2200 Brighton Rd Pgh. Pa 15212, Div. 1 Section S

Re: muckle family

mckiwi — 2011-07-09 07:12:44Z

Hi Sandra,
My father was David James Hugh Muckle(23/11/1917 to 21/12/1998)
His father was George Muckle (1884-1973)
And his father was Hugh Muckle (1855-27th Feb 1941)His wife was Sarah(nee Turnbull)

Would be great to compare notes etc and see where we all fit in.

Kind regards
Pete Muckle
Nelson NZ
e-mail celtic.kiwi@gmail.com

Re: muckle family

JanetD600 — 2011-04-30 21:38:54Z

DANIEL MY MAIDEN NAME IS MUCKLE THERE IS A MUCKLE COAT OF ARMS http://www.4crests.com/muckle-coat-of-arms.com go to this an it might help you in what you are looking for

Re: muckle family

JanetD600 — 2011-04-30 21:38:51Z

DANIEL MY MAIDEN NAME IS MUCKLE THERE IS A MUCKLE COAT OF ARMS http://www.4crests.com/muckle-coat-of-arms.com go to this an it might help you in what you are looking for

Re: muckle family

JanetD600 — 2011-04-30 21:30:35Z

THANK YOU FOR PUTTING UP THE INFO ABOUT THE MUCKLE CREST MY MAIDEN NAME IS MUCKLE I AM TRYING TO FIND OUT ABOUT MY GRAND PARENTS AN SO ON MY GRAND PARENTS LIVED IN CHARLEROI PA THANKS JANET

Re: muckle family

JanetD600 — 2011-04-30 21:15:26Z

MY MAIDEN NAME IS MUCKLE MY GRANDFATHER WAS FROM CHARLEROI PA SOME WHERE DOWN THE LINE THERE WAS MORRISON NAME CAME INTO THE PICTURESO CHECK THAT NAME

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

JanetD600 — 2011-04-30 19:17:53Z

DAVE I AM VERY INTERESTED MY MAIDEN NAME IS MUCKLE MY GRANDFATHER JAMES R MUCKLE WAS BORN IN CHARLEROI PA ANY INFO YOU HAVE I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THANK YOU

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

JanetD600 — 2011-04-30 18:00:34Z

I DON,T KNOW IF YOU HAVE HEARD OF OIL CITY PA THERE WAS A FEW MUCKLES THAT LIVED THERE ALSO MY EMAIL ADDRESS IS janetd600@aol.com I AM NOW JUST LEARNING HOW TO FIND THINGS OUT ABOUT MY FAMILY THREW ANCESTRY SO ANY HELP THAT YOU CAN HELP ME WITH I REALY WANT TO THANK YOU.

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

Flcape46 — 2011-04-29 14:01:09Z

My gr grandfather had a brother William Muckle born 1849 and I have his wife's name as Hannah Garreaux. I have 3 children I have found for them who are John L bc 1878, Ada bc 1883, and Albert G bc 1887. That was as far as I got and I haven't pursued the Muckle line farther. This could be our connection. I will look to see if I can find more children for William and Hannah. If they are the same, some time ago I sent you a post going back to my ggg grandfather John Muckle who came from County Down, Ireland.

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

Flcape46 — 2011-04-29 13:54:01Z

did you see the articles I attached to the post? Hopefully these are relatives of yours. If you give me your email address, I will let you know what I can find. The birth date is SO important. I really think your anceestors may be related to my gr grandfather. Charleroi was not that big a city and Muckle is not that common a name. I will let you know what I can find.
Nancy
ngray46@aol.com

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

JanetD600 — 2011-04-29 05:13:35Z

Thank you so much for trying to help me . My grandfather was born Sept 4 1895 an he was the son of William and Hannah McCollum Muckle .
thank you

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

Flcape46 — 2011-04-23 20:33:29Z

I would really like to be able to help you and I think it is very possible we are from the same family. I asked you a few questions before and I still don't have enough to help you search. I have your grandfather's name and your grandmother's maiden name. Do you have any idea when he was born? 1888? 1915? 1963? Do you know when your father was born? That could give me an estimated date? You gave me your grandmother's maiden name but do you know her first name? Do you know names of any of their relatives? I think you may be descended from John Muckle born 1811 who imigrated from Ireland. I can't tell until I work your family back. Please email me direct at ngray46@aol.com Could this nespaper pic of a Charles and Harry be on one of your relatives?

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

JanetD600 — 2011-04-23 04:24:38Z

MY GRANDFATHER MOM AN DAD WAS WILLIAM MUCKLE AN HER MAIDEN NAME McCOLLUM AN THEY WAS FROM CHARLEROI PA ALSO THANK YOU FOR ANY INFO YOU CAN HELP ME WITH

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

ngray46 — 2011-04-11 13:21:11Z

I know the Muckle families in Lancaster are not related to my Muckle family in Charleroi. Being that Lancaster was a very German/Dutch settlement area and my Muckle family in Charleroi emigrated from Ireland (Scots/Irish)to Allegheny City/County, PA One or more of the descendents moved to Charleroi.

My grandmother, Marie Muckle b 1894, had a cousin in Charleroi. I remember visiting there in the early 1950s. If I remember correctly, I was sent an obit last year for a retired coach named Muckle. I haven't researched that branch but do have some of the earlier family tree.

If you would give a little info on your grandfather. His name and birth date would help and also the names of his parents or siblings.
ngray46@aol.com

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

JanetD600 — 2011-04-11 05:35:35Z

could you please add me to the info you have about the Muckles my dad was a Muckle an im trying to find stuff out about his family THank You

Re: Muckel/Muckle in Lancaster Cty PA

JanetD600 — 2011-04-11 05:29:52Z

MY MAIDEN NAME IS MUCKLE MY GRANDFATHER WAS FROM CHARLEROI PA I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND INFO OUT ABOUT HIM .

Muckles in Co of Down Northern Ireland

gobanana76 — 2011-03-26 03:19:17Z

I recently found the census from 1901 of my family in Northern Ireland. 3 girls named Sarah (who married Solomon Green - my great great grandfather), Lizzie, and Annie. Annie and Lizzie lived with Sarah,Solomon,and their children. They lived in the county of Down. I believe the address to be 88 Dunraven Avenue.And they were of the Methodist religion where the rest of the household was Presbyterian. If anyone has any information please contact me. Thanks!

Re: MUCKLE FROM OIL CIYT PA AREA

ngray46 — 2011-02-19 13:17:07Z

My grandmother, Marie Muckle Cain, was born 1894 and she used to take me to visit relatives in Charleroi around 1950. Do you know James' father's name? I need something to track him back as I don't show him in my data base.
I beleive you are descended from John Muckle b 1811 in Ireland. He sailed out of Belfast Jan 27, 1834. Settled in Allegheny City, PA (now the North Side in Pgh) and married Mary Leslie in 1835.
Do you have any info on James at all? I believe he is probably John's gr grandson.

MUCKLE FROM OIL CIYT PA AREA

JanetD600 — 2011-02-19 07:46:32Z

I AM TRYING TO FIND ANY INFO ON JAMES R MUCKLE BORN 1894 TO 1895 IN CHARLEROI PA.

Re: Muckle family branch in PA

JanetD600 — 2011-02-19 07:31:25Z

i am also trying to find out about the Muckle in PA my grandfather is from CHARLEROI PA NOT SURE WHERE THAT IS I WAS BORN IN OHIO

Orah Muckle & Janet Blythe

TinaHolley52 — 2011-01-29 04:11:57Z

I am looking for anyone connected to Orah Muckle & Janet Blythe of Scotland. Their two children Archibald and Orr came to the US in 1855 and settled in WV. Archibald was my 3rd great grandfather. I have found Archibalds birth record and found him in the 1841 & 1851 census with his parents, brother Orr and sister Marrion. I have seen other posts where a John Johnston Muckle is also their son and that there possibly were other children. Interested in any info that I can find.

Re: muckles of co down

soulrescue — 2011-01-06 04:03:00Z

Hello cousin DonnaHard777

A good place to start is the 1901 & 1911 census. Unfortunately the census doesn't show any grandparents or other relatives living with Adam & Rebecca & children.

Your great uncle Edward should be a great source of family history. Ask him to document his memories of your family history

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Carrow...

I think the following are your ancestors:

Residents of a house 23 in Ballycopeland (Carrowdore, Down)

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion

Muckle Adam 37 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Muckle Rebecca 36 Female Wife Presbyterian

Years Married Children Born Children Living
11 5 5

Muckle James 9 Male Son Presbyterian
Muckle Rose 7 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle John 5 Male Son Presbyterian
Muckle Mary 3 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Madge Female Daughter Presbyterian

The 1901 census shows Adam & Rebecca living at house 2 in Ballycopeland (Carrowdore, Down)

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Carrow...

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion

Muckle Adam 27 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Muckle Rebecca 26 Female Wife Presbyterian

Muckle Sarah C 1 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Maggie Female Daughter Presbyterian

Re: muckle family

cromieclan — 2011-01-06 01:23:05Z

Hello Roy,

Many thanks for all the Muckle information you posted, still browsing through the details. Our Hugh was b.1854 and died 27 Feb 1941 in Canterbury New Zealand. His Father Thomas d. 31 May 1911, (81 years), buried Ballycopeland Churchyard, with his wife Agnes Magill.

Kindest regards & once again MANY thanks.

MUCKLE GRAVES County Down Northern Ireland

soulrescue — 2011-01-05 01:56:28Z

KIRKCUBBIN PRESBYTERIAN
MUCKLE
Erect. by Thomas Muckle of Ballymullen for his son Thomas who died 4th March 1830 aged 18 yrs.

Also the above Thomas Muckle who died 11th July 1839 aged 79 yrs.

Also his wife Sarah Muckle alias JOHNSTON who died 6th Dec. 1853 aged 78 yrs.

MUCKLE
Erect. by David Muckle of Kircubbin for his wife Ann Muckle alias CATHCART who died 6th Oct. 1849 aged 34 yrs.

Also above named David Muckle who died th March 1865 aged 58 yrs.

Also his son James C Muckle who died 2nd July 1871 aged 25 yrs.

Also his second wife Orsila Muckle alias LOWRY who died 30th Nov. 1877 aged 66 yrs.

GREYABBEY GRAVEYARD
STEWART, RUCMAN
Erected by Nathaniel Stewart of Mountstewart, in memory of his beloved son James Stewart, who died 26th May 1888 aged 20 years

Also his daughter Mary Ann Stewart, nee MUCKLE, who died 20th January 1893 aged 27 years

Also his sister Ann Stewart, who died 28th January 1906 aged 71 years Margaret Stewart, [nee KELLY] beloved wife of Nathaniel Stewart, who died at Mountstewart on Monday 8th December 1913 aged 71 years

Also the above Nathaniel Stewart, who died at Mountstewart Monday 5th February 1917 aged 85 years

Inscribed by Sara Rucman, in loving memory of her husband John Rucman, who died at Mountstewart 12th February 1929 aged 57 years

Also the above Sara Rucman, who died at Holywood 29th November 1951 aged 72 years

CARROWDORE GRAVEYARD

MUCKLE
Erect. by Margaret Jane Muckle of Grangee in memory of her husband Gilbert Muckle who died in ENGLAND 1870 aged 33 yrs.

Also her daughter Jane Ann Muckle who died in 1877 aged 11 yrs.

Also her beloved mother Eliza ROBINSON who died in 1879 aged 75 yrs.

Also her beloved father John Robinson who died 1885 aged 78 yrs.

Also her beloved son Robert James Muckle who died at Grangee on sabbath 17th Sept. 1899 aged 26 yrs.

Also her beloved son David John Muckle who died 10th April 1903 aged 35 yrs.

Eliza Ann(a) MUCKLE
Donaghadee & Ballyphilip daughter of Gilbert Muckle; married Joseph Jamison 31 May 1855 in Donaghadee ; mother of Mary b. 1868 & Joseph David b. 1871 (regd. Portaferry) & Jeanette b. 1874 (regd. Donaghadee) CR

Alexander MUCKLE . Ballyphilip regd. Portaferry; husband of Elizabeth Morrison; father of Cecilia b. 13 Sep 1868 CR

Thomas MUCKLE . Newtownards
Son of Gawn Muckle ; aged 21 married Mary Anne McKee 15 Jul 1850 CR

KIRCUBBIN PRESBYTERIAN
MARY BELL [MUCKLE]
Erected by James Bell, Kircubbin in memory of his wife Mary Bell otherwise MUCKLE who departed this life 10th Jany 1829 aged 29 years

Also his wife Eliza Bell who died 15th August 1872 aged 78 years

Also his daughter Mary who died 27th April 1874 aged 39 years

Also the above named James Bell who departed this life 5th March 1881 aged 86 years

Also his son James Bell who departed this life 13th September 1882 aged 46 years [The next is contemporary with the first inscription]

Also their son Samuel who died an infant.

Jane McFERRAN, MUCKLE
Erected by John McFerran of Echlinville in memory of his wife Jane McFerran alias MUCKLE who departed this life 8th August 1842 aged 27 years.

MUCKLE, ALLEN
Erected by John Muckle of Ballymullen in memory of his son James Muckle, born 11/11/1851 and died 16/07/1867,

also his wife Sarah Muckle, alias Allen, born 25/08/1813, died 13/03/1878,

also the above named John Muckle, died 25/09/1902 aged 89,

also Mary Jane Muckle, born March 1844, died at Ballymullen on 26/04/1918,

also his son John Muckle, died 15/01/1924 aged 75,

also Thomas Muckle, husband of Mary E Muckle, died 13/12/1942 aged 60,

also Margaret Ann Muckle, daughter of the above John and Mary Jane Muckle, died at Ballymullen on 27/09/1948 aged 60.

TEMPLEPATRIACK, DONAGHADEE, MILLER HILL
GAWEN MUCKLE
Here lieth the body of Gawen Muckle who departed this life April the lth 1783 aged 60 years.

MUCKLE, BEATTIE
Erected by John Muckle of Ballybuttle in memory of his beloved wife Annie Muckle alias BEATTIE who departed this life 13th August 1868 aged 28 years

Also the above named John Muckle who departed this life 3rd November 1892 aged 56 years

Also his son John Muckle who departed this life 8th July 1932 aged 61 years

Also his daughter Margaret Muckle who departed this life April 5th 1936 aged 73 years.

ACHIESON MUCKLE
Erected by John Achieson of Cunninburn in memory of his father William Achieson who departed this life 1st November 1796 aged 47 years.

Also his wife Jane Achieson alias CUMMING who departed this life May 18th A D 1834 aged 73 years.

Also Sarah Achieson, wife to Samuel Achieson of Cunningburn, who died 20th July 1864 aged 68 years.

Also the above named Samuel Achieson who departed this life 10th June 1873 aged 77 years.

Also his daughter Jane Achieson who departed this life 6th February 1892 aged 75 years.

Also his daughter Mary who died 1st April 1902 aged 88 years.

Also Robert MUCKLE, son of Jane Achieson, who died 7th Dec 1904 aged 54 years.

McKEAG, WALKER, MUCKLE
Erected by Margaret WALKER of Ballymacruise in memory of her brother David McKeag who died 16th April 1844 aged 7 years

Also her brother Robert McKeag who died 14th July 1872 aged 23 years

Also her mother [Mary] McKeag alias MUCKLE who died June 1876 aged [--] years

Also her [----- Samuel] McKeag who died ---- October 1876 aged [--] years.

MATEAR, MUCKLE
Erected by David MUCKLE of Toronto in memory of his sister Elizabeth Matear who died 28th April 1922

Also his mother Jennie Muckle who died 12th November 1922

Also his father Andrew Muckle who died 16th March 1926.

MILLISLE PRESBYTERIAN
MUCKLE, McMORELAND
Erected by Gilbert Muckle of Ballycopeland in memory of his father John Thomas Muckle who departed this life 1st September 1866 aged 77 years

Also his son David who departed this life 18th July 1864 aged 3 years

Also his mother Elizabeth Muckle alias McMORELAND who departed this life 27th August 1872 aged 88 years

Also his wife May Muckle who departed this life 10th March 1885 aged 49 years

Also the said Albert Muckle who departed this life 8th April 1886 aged 52 years.

BALLYCOPELAND PRESBYTERIAN
MUCKLE
Erected by Hugh Muckle, Ballycopeland, in memory of his father William Muckle who died 9th April 1860 aged 71 years

Also his daughter Annie died 18th Augt 1862 aged 17 years

Also his mother Mary Muckle died 9th Feb 1869 aged 70 years

Also his son William Robert died 18th Nov 1866 aged 4 months

Also two children who died young

Also his wife Mary Medeline Muckle who died 17th April 1891 aged 47 years

Also his son Hugh Muckle who died 25th February 1894 aged 23 years

Also the above Hugh Muckle who died 25th April 1897 aged 70 years.

DONAGHADEE C of I
MORROW, MUCKLE
Erected by David Morrow of Bangor in memory of his father Matthew Morrow who died 9th October 1859 aged 51 years

Also his sister Sarah Morrow who died 24th July 1856 aged 18 years

Also his sister Eliza Jane, wife of T MUCKLE, who died 16th May 1894 aged 58 years

Also his mother Sarah Morrow, who died 26th November 1898 aged 97 years

Inscribed by Agnes Muckle in memory of her father Thomas Muckle who died 29th December 1939 aged 74 years Till we meet again

Also the above named Agnes Muckle who died 23rd March 1943 aged 73 years.

MUCKLE
Erected by Jane Muckle of Ballycopeland in memory of her husband James Muckle who died AD 3rd April 1841 aged 57 years

Also his daughter Eliza Muckle, who died AD Octr 13th 1843 aged 29 years

Also his daughter Selina Muckle who died AD 29 May 1844 aged 14 years

Also his daughter Margaret Muckle who died January 3rd 1845 aged 26 years

Also the above named Jane Muckle who died 1st November 1863 aged 75 years

Also their son John Muckle who died 19th March 1867 aged 41 years.

Re: muckle family

soulrescue — 2011-01-05 01:45:01Z

Hi Sandra
Your ancestor Hugh Muckle might be the one on the 1911 census for House 2 in Ballycopeland (Carrowdore, Down)

No age is shown for Hugh Muckle so my guess is that he was born in 1911 and therefore less than 1 year old

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Carrow...

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Muckle William 30 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Muckle Jane 27 Female Wife Presbyterian

Muckle Davidson 3 Male Son Presbyterian
Muckle Sarah Jane 2 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Hugh Male Son Presbyterian

Re: muckle family

soulrescue — 2011-01-05 01:37:57Z

You can find a Muckle coat of arms at:

http://www.4crests.com/muckle-coat-of-arms.html

I don't know how genuine this might be as there is big money in selling family crests to gullible people.

All my research indicates that the Muckles were poor farmers who were unlikely to have a family crest of their own.

Re: muckles of co down

soulrescue — 2011-01-05 01:31:45Z

The original Muckles from Scotland settled around Donaghadee in County Down Nth Ireland.

Try searching for Gawn Muckle or Gawen Muckle who are common ancestors.

TEMPLEPATRIACK, DONAGHADEE, MILLER HILL
GAWEN MUCKLE
Here lieth the body of Gawen Muckle who departed this life April the lth 1783 aged 60 years.

Muckle Name Meaning and History:
English (Northumberland): nickname for a big man, from Middle English muchel ‘big’ (Old English mycel).
Compare Mickle.
German (Mückle; South German Muckle): from a diminutive of Muck ‘gnat’.

ANOTHER VIEW:
This surname of MUCKLE, familiar to the West Midlands was a habitation name from Mucklows Hill, to the West of Birmingham, or from Muckley Corner, near Lichfield in Staffordshire.

Both these names are from the Old English MICEL (large) and HLAW (hill) literally meaning a dweller at a large hill.

The name is also spelt MUCK, MUCKE, MUCKLE and MUTCHELL. Since the dawn of civilisation the need to communicate has been a prime drive of all higher mankind. The more organised the social structure became, the more urgent the need to name places, objects and situations essential to the survival and existence of the social unit.

From this common stem arose the requirements to identify families, tribes and individual members evolving into a pattern in evidence today. In the formation of this history, common usage of customs, trades, locations, patronymic and generic terms were often adopted as surnames. The demands of bureaucracy formally introduced by feudal lords in the 11th century, to define the boundaries and families within their fiefdoms, crystallized the need for personal identification and accountability, and surnames became in general use from this time onwards. The earliest of the name on record appears to be MUKELEY (without surname) who was documented in County Nottingham in the year 1199, and MUCHELOW (without surname) appears in Lincolnshire in 1273.

Most of the European surnames in countries such as England, Scotland and France were formed in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. The process had started somewhat earlier and had continued in some places into the 19th century, but the norm is that in the tenth and eleventh centuries people did not have surnames, whereas by the fifteenth century most of the population had acquired a second name. The associated coat of arms is recorded in Sir Bernard Burkes General Armory. Ulster King of Arms in 1884. Registered in Scotland.

Re: muckles of co down

soulrescue — 2011-01-05 01:18:22Z

RE: Samuel Muckle from Dakota
In about 1954, Samuel Muckle from Dakota, my grandmother Martha Mary Davis' brother, came to visit my late father Samuel Muckle Davis in Kircubbin where we took a number of photos.

I think he is the same Samuel Muckle, then aged 14, shown in the 1901 census for Ballycross / Ballyhay.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ballyc...

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion

Muckle James 50 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Muckle Agnes 40 Female Wife Presbyterian

Muckle Annie 8 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Sarah 6 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Martha 12 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Agnes 13 Female Daughter Presbyterian
Muckle Samuel 14 Male Son Presbyterian
Muckle James 9 Male Son Presbyterian
Muckle Thomas 7 Male Son Presbyterian

Re: muckles of co down

soulrescue — 2011-01-05 01:00:56Z

Adam

The 1911 census for Ballyhay has a few Muckles that might be your relatives:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Donagh...

Surname Forename Age Sex Relation to head Religion
Muckle David 46 Male Head of Family Presbyterian
Muckle Agnes 41 Female Sister Presbyterian
Green Clifford 8 Male Nephew Presbyterian

Re: muckles of co down

soulrescue — 2011-01-04 23:34:25Z

Martha Mary Muckle [Davis] [1888 to 1966] is the daughter of James Muckle [1845 to 1933] and Agnes [nee Smilh] of Ballyhay near Donaghadee Co Down Nth Ireland.

The 1901 & 1911 census forms for James & Agnes Muckle are available at:

1911 CENSUS
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Donagh...

and

1901 CENSUS
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Ballyc...

Martha Mary Muckle was 12 yo at the 1901 Census and 22 at the 1911 census.

Samuel Muckle Davis MPS PhC [Pharmaceutical Chemist] appears on the 1911 census form as 1 year old Samuel Sloan. His name was changed to Samuel Muckle Davis in 1919 when Martha Mary Muckle married John William Davis on 29 November 1919.

Samuel Sloan [later Samuel Muckle Davis] is recorded on the census form as "Nephew" by James Muckle but he is actually a grandchild as was Henry Miskelly, son of Agnes Jane Muckle aged 24 yrs. Henry Miskelly died when he was 21] We need a birth certificate for Samuel to determine his real father.

The Sloan family [Hugh & John Sloan] were farmers at Hoggstown near Ballyhay and another branch [Robert John Sloan] were butchers [Fleshers] in Donaghadee in 1910.

There are so many Muckles around Donaghadee with the same first names that the ancestry before James Muckle is difficult to trace back to Gawn / Gawen Muckle who migrated from Scotland.

I am not sure whether Gawn & Gawen Muckle are the same person or father and son.

I found this cemetery inscription for Gawen Muckle's death on 1 April 1783:
TEMPLEPATRIACK, DONAGHADEE, MILLER HILL

GAWEN MUCKLE
Here lieth the body of Gawen Muckle who departed this life April the lth 1783 aged 60 years.

Gawen Muckle was therefore born in 1723.

Gawn Muckle is named in the history of the Millisle Presbyterian church as having a couple of reserved seats in Pew 13 in 1776 as follows:
"19th August, 1776. Sittings let by the Committee to members of the congregation, together with the amounts of Stipend paid quarterly:--
Pew No. 13. Gawn Muckle 2 sittings 0/3/7½

See History of Millisle Presbyterian Congregation:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~econnolly/...

An inscription in the Newtownards cemetery for Thomas Muckle says he is the son of Gawn Muckle
Thomas MUCKLE . Newtownards
Son of Gawn Muckle ;
aged 21 married Mary Anne McKee 15 Jul 1850

If this Thomas Muckle was 21 yo in 1850 he would have been born in 1829. However the inscription for Gawen Muckle says he died on 1 April 1783. This make me think that Gawn Muckle may be the son of Gawen Muckle.

There was another Thomas Muckle who died on 11th July 1839 aged 79 yrs [Born 1769] and is buried in Kircubbin cemetery Co Down.

Samuel Muckle Davis MPS PhC had a chemist shop adjoining his home at 38-42 Main St Kircubbin before moving to Australia in January 1959 on the P&O ship SS ORION with his wife Agnes [nee Reynolds], children John Samuel Davis, Patrick Roy Davis, Mary Clare Davis, Robert Joseph Davis and Samuel's mother Martha Mary Davis [nee Muckle].

In the Kircubbin cemetery there is an inscription for Thomas Muckle as follows:
Erect. by Thomas Muckle of Ballymullen for his son Thomas
who died 4th March 1830 aged 18 yrs.
Also the above Thomas Muckle who died 11th July 1839 aged 79 yrs.
Also his wife Sarah Muckle alias JOHNSTON who died 6th Dec. 1853 aged 78 yrs.

I would be interested in whether anyone can add to the complicated Muckle family history in Co Down prior to James Muckle [1845 to 1933] and his wife Agnes [nee Smith] 1836 to 1936, of Ballyhay near Donaghadee Co Down Nth Ireland. James & Agnes were married at Carrowdore [near Donaghadee] in 1839.

Regards
Roy Davis

Re: muckles of co down

Tmuc1 — 2010-10-11 22:42:10Z

Hi Tom Muckle here. My great Grandfather was Samuel Muckle from County Down. He married Mary J. Ewart. Any information you might have about Samuels father / family would be fantastic.

Thanks in advance,

Tom Muckle

Re: muckle family

IngeloreF — 2010-10-06 21:16:01Z

Hello,
by www.ancestry.de
I have found:
(I put in: Augustus as Son, Laura as Mother
Australia Death Index:
Name: Augustus J Morris
death: 1930
death place: New South Wales
Father: Augustus J Morris
Mother: Laura
Registery year: 1930
Registery place: Redfern, New South Wales
Registery-No.: 645

US Census 1990
Name: Augustus Morris
[Agustus Morris]
living in year 1900:Yonkers Ward 3, Westchester, New York
Age: 17
birthdate: 1883
birth place: Illinois
Rase: Black (Schwarzer)
: Male (Männlich)
Son of Ellis Morris
birthplace of Father: Tennessee
Mother: Laura Morris
birthplace of Mother: Kentucky

Household:
Name Age
Ellis Morris 54
Laura Morris 38
Augustus Morris 17
Adda Morris 13
Hattie Morris 14
Mattie Morris 10
Berty Morris 5

when I put in:
Father Augustus Morris, Mother Laura and Son Augustus
I became no Result
Perhaps is Ellis the Short form of Augustus?

Are this the right Dates?

Kind regards
Ingelore Frank

Re: muckles of co down

cromieclan — 2010-07-21 23:04:40Z

Hi Wendy,

Have checked the details in your tree, can't see where the connection is?

Re: muckles of co down

cromieclan — 2010-07-21 23:04:18Z

Hi Wendy,

Have checked the details in your tree, can't see where the connection is?

Re: muckles of co down

cromieclan — 2010-07-15 23:53:20Z

Hi,

Thanks for contacted me.

Maybe best if you send me details of confirmation you have to family connections and then we can talk.

Thinking at this stage that your grandmothers name to be Kathleen, am I correct?

Kindest regards.