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Robert Negus, Samuel Coon family of RI, and NY

ClaireWhitePeterson — 2012-05-04 20:16:30Z

Searching for info on Hannah Negus Coon b. abt 1778 in Rhode Island (maybe Tiverton). Her father was Isaac Negus. Mother thought to be Deborah Perry. Hannah married a Samuel (_?) Coon in Tiverton, Rhode Island orDartmouth, MA. and then moved to New York. Later Hannah married a man by the last name of Milk maybe of Duanesburg.
She may be related- perhaps a sister to Isaac Negus Jr.of Tiverton . I found a Hannah Coon living next door to Isaac Negus in the 1820 Tiverton Census. Hannah immigrated to New York sometime after 1820. She had a daughter named Amanda Melvina Coon (b. 1819 in RI) who married Menizes Raynor Case in NY. The Case family - Menzies Case was born in Phelps, New York (father Moses Case) for a time and later Schenectady, NY area maybe Duanesburg where his uncle Truman Case lived. So families could have lived in either of those areas. Thxs

Re: My Negus Line

RichardNegus80 — 2011-12-20 04:06:14Z

Jane is mentioned in her sisters will.
Katherine (Deighton) (Hagburne) (Dudley) Allin
Suffolk Probates 7:142

Re: My Negus Line

anker91 — 2011-12-19 15:22:07Z

Jane Deighton who married John Lugg and Jonathan Negus was baptized and not born on 5 Apr 1609 at St. Nicholas, Gloucester, Gloucestershire. While "Ancestral Roots" and countless online trees list her death as after 1671, I have yet to find a single source citation. Has anyone come across whatever document shows Jane Deighton living in 1671? Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

Re: My NEGUS line

anker91 — 2011-12-19 15:16:25Z

Jane Deighton was baptized 5 Apr 1609 so any birth date inferred would be before 5 Apr 1609.

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

Shanney999 — 2011-12-12 19:28:08Z

I'm not sure if this is of use to researchers of Negus in Bedfordshire but a James Negus has just appeared here....

http://pathstocrime.blogspot.com/

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

DebraSmith2230 — 2011-11-20 05:54:31Z

My tree is public so you can have a look at the information Jacqui and I have collected. My tree is called Holt Family and Francis pepper Negus is there, with info on all his descendants. There are a number of trees for this family, and some great photos. Happy hunting!
Deb Smith

Elizabeth wife of Thaddeus Negus

kjowins1 — 2011-11-14 03:42:15Z

Obituary for Elizabeth wife of Thaddeus Negus of Fabius, New York says her maiden name was Wallace. "Mrs. Negus was born in Wardsborough, County of Newfane, State of Vermont, on the 2nd day of August, 1786." Her family moved to Paulet, Vermont, then Westfield, Washington County, New York and last Fabius, Onondaga County, New York. She married Thaddeus in 1805. After his death in 1853, Elizabeth spent ten years in Illinois and ten years in Ohio with various children. The last four years of her life she resided in Italy Hollow with her son Cyrus Ryland Negus. She had 8 sons and 5 daughters. She died October 1, in the 96th year of age.

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

wingweaver84 — 2011-08-10 00:36:22Z

I don't remember seeing a Christine.

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

wingweaver84 — 2011-08-10 00:35:52Z

My Harriet's siblings were Garfield James Negus(my g-grandfather)and Mabel Negus(b.1886,died as an infant);she also had two stepsiblings from her mother's first marriage,Everett and Birdetta Steadman.

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

lindaromero61 — 2011-08-09 23:45:23Z

Just remembered Forest Glen Parish is where my Harriet Negus was born or babtized or christened...near the poulon river.

I have a list of my Harriets sisters aand brothers somewhere...but who knows just how accurate it all is.

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

lindaromero61 — 2011-08-09 23:34:25Z

Was not New Brunswick all of Nova Scotia at one time..I believe they partitioned it as too many counties to manage.Was their a Christine in your line...

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

wingweaver84 — 2011-08-09 23:20:56Z

There could still be a connection somewhere,but there is no Matilda listed as a sister or an aunt to (my)Harriet.In responses to my inquiries on her father John(I've posted it on the England/Middlesex/General message board),I've learned that John's mother Mary remained in the UK until her death in 1904 at the age of 83.This could imply that his father,John Sr. may have come to Canada with his son,but I believe they first settled in Nova Scotia.

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

lindaromero61 — 2011-08-09 22:19:46Z

Not sure if same but I am sure there is a connection.My ggrandma was born in Westmoreland,N.B....Poulon River..born Nov.29,1870.She died in Sidney River,Nova Scotia..Dec.30,1949.She married my GGrandfather James Allen MUNRO.Prob. met her after his 1st wife Emily Compton in N.Brunswick died and then married Harriet to help him with his huge family.
The story I heard was that my GGGrandfather was either a jack or John Negus.He came from Eng. and helped work on the N.B railway,and he also owned a gristmill.
My Harriet's mother died?and she maay have been partially raised by her sister Matilda.Harriet named one of her sons Donald Burpee MUNRO..is there a Burpee in your family.Some how I bet they are all connected.Perhaps grandfathers were brothers etc...let me know if this connects at all with you.

Re: Harriet Mae Negus

wingweaver84 — 2011-08-07 23:41:25Z

I don't know if it's the same one,but my grandfather's aunt was born Harriet May Negus in 1883,the daughter of John Negus and Rachel Smith(Steadman);she was born in NS,but both my great-grandfather and their younger sister were born in Westmorland,New Brunswick.My records show she married a Wade Reed in Plymouth,Massachussetts in the early 1900s and she died August 15,1970.Let me know if she's the person you're looking for,because I can provide information on descendants in that case.

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

cookies2jay — 2011-07-23 02:02:31Z

Hi guys,

My name is Jacqui and my sister Debbie has been tracing our FT since the 70's. We have more info on this branch. Francis Pepper Negus was our ggreat grandfather on our Dad's side. We have his parents as Thomas Negus & Elizabeth Pepper.
I have a private tree on ancestry but am happy to invite family members to view it if you are interested.

Cheers Jacqui

Re: John Negus - Essex England

mikeandfay1 — 2011-05-03 09:33:54Z

I feel this maybe the my family tree as they came from essex i believe and Mary and John have a family connection

NEGUS Jack T - Vietnam Wall section 10W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-04-26 21:23:46Z

NEGUS Jack T - Vietnam Wall section 10W

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If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

morrisb3109 — 2011-02-15 23:33:50Z

hi janet, you sent me a message thro ancestry, who i am no longer with. i am interested in what you had to say and would like you to contact me on my email address
morrisb31@tadaust.org.au
regards maurice benson.

Re: More Aust. -Negus family research

daughtersisterwifemum — 2011-02-06 07:34:44Z

I am beginning research which includes Negus family members.

My Great Grandmother was Annie Armiger nee Negus. She moved to New Zealand from Melbourne when she was 4 years old. She was born about 1879 and died at aged 50 in 1928. My grandmother Gwendonline Gertrude Walker nee Armiger kept a News paper death notice for a Robert John Negus born 1886 died 1973 He was a WW1 Veteran. I am guessing that he could have been a younger brother of Annie.

My Aunt has told me that a family Negus was in a shipwreck off the coast of Chile. While in Chile he met and married a local (or a Spanish colonist). My guess is that this pairing ended up in Australia and then emmigrated to New Zealand.

Does anyone have information that would support or add to this?

Cheers

Andrea

Re: John Negus - Essex England

gardencity10 — 2011-01-09 23:32:41Z

We just found your entry. We realize that you posted this several years ago. The Negus Family is my husband's grandmother and we were thrilled that you had posted this information. We could use more information if you have it on this line. If you read this please e-mail me directly at donna@bearlake.com.

Re: Clues Martha Negus(Berry, Barnum) is another sister

karenolinger2007 — 2010-09-20 03:08:50Z

I am looking for records that show three Negus women of Onondaga County, New York(Phebe Sprague, Olive Allen Babcock, Martha Berry Barnum)to be daughters of Jesse Negus (died abt 1800)of Kingsbury, Washington County, New York.
Martha (Negus Berry) Barnum was an early member in Manlius, New York Baptist church. Married first James Berry then Thomas Barnum a Rev. vet. in 1797 at Manlius, NY. She lived with Daughter Lucy(Berry)Allen md to David Allen in Medina, Ohio, when she applied for pension. David is the step-son of Olive Negus Allen Babcock. James and Martha(Negus) Berry named children: James, William, Jessie, Laura, and Lucy. Martha (Negus Berry) Barnum born abt.1767 in Conn. lived with daughter Antinette(md Richard) Colton in 1850 in Eaton, Lorain, OH census.
Olive Negus Allen Babcock born abt. 1772 in Conn. (1850 census) named her daughters Martha, Phebe, Lucy(members of Baptist churches in same County). Common names, true. She was also an early member of Baptist churches in the County. Her daughter Lucy moved to OH and lived next to daughter of Thaddeus Negus(Permelia Messenger)in Huron County, OH,1850 census.
Phebe Negus Sprague born abt 1780 was married to Ephraim Sprague who was appointed guardian to Thaddeus Negus in 1803 in Onondaga County, New York. Thaddeus Negus was son of Jesse Negus mentioned above.

Re: John Negus - Essex England

allanl136 — 2010-07-31 05:13:00Z

There seems to be a match with my husband's family.
My husband's great grandfather was also John Jr. Which one of John's children does your husband descend?

I have some information but not all.

Re: John Negus - Essex England

annehanson11 — 2010-07-31 03:27:38Z

Good Afternoon Laurie,

My name is Anne Hanson and I live in Beechworth, Australia.

Elizabeth Negus (nee BANKS) was my grt grt aunt and I would like to share some information with you.

Perhaps you might like to contact me at annehanson1@bigpond.com

Thank you.

Anne

Re: Staples

FStaples345 — 2010-07-11 19:26:31Z

If you are still looking for Marcus Manuel Staples, I can give you a lot of info. Fstaples345@verizon.net.
Fred Staples

Re: Thomas, Son of Job Negus

phyllisnilsson1 — 2010-06-26 02:03:10Z

According to what I have, Patience was the d/o of Stephen Negus and Hope Durfee. This is what I found on another site:

"Stephen Negus married Hope Durfee,and their daughter Patience married Joseph Sanford. It is in the vital records, and both Stephen and Hope mention her as Patience Sanford in their Wills when they died in early 1814 & 1815. Patience Negus did not marry William Francis."

I hope this helps.

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

tjleah1 — 2010-04-10 10:00:50Z

Hi Jacky

Thanks for the message and info. I don't believe we have been in contact before apart from the email you sent me earlier today. I have only just started researching the Negus family in the last few months so don't know much apart from bits and pieces that other people in the family have told me, although no one seems to know very much. All our research has been on the family in Australia, I am yet to find any info on the generations further back than Francis Pepper Negus.

You have my email address. Will communicate through email.
Thanks again
Leah.

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

jathomp168 — 2010-04-09 18:08:06Z

I am not sure if we have spoken before , some time ago.
I have the one name study of the name NEGUS .
I shall help you as much as I can , I do know a bit , but not sure how much you know or have researched , do you have a tree on Ancestry ?
If I can help I WILL

MY EMAIL jacqueline@jthompson52.orangehome.co.uk

keep in touch
XXJACKY

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

tjleah1 — 2010-04-09 12:39:10Z

Jacky

It's great to be in touch with you. My email address is tjleah@yahoo.com.au. I am in Australia.

Look forward to hearing from you
Leah.

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

jathomp168 — 2010-03-23 21:10:43Z

i have the one name study for the name NEGUS here in the UK

I have traced your Francis Pepper Negus to 1841
census + his christening as and Adult in London .

come back to me for more info . perhaps we could email
regards jacky

Re: Jonathan Negus

meshelmybell — 2010-03-22 11:49:19Z

I don't know for sure but best way to get me is todayhooks@neb.rr.com

Michelle

Re: Jonathan Negus

kjowins1 — 2010-03-22 10:45:50Z

Hey Michelle,
We are really sluething now because I haven't found records to proove my ideas just firm connections of proximity, and family associations, ect. So, anyone working on these people please share if you find something. I haven't really searched out Stephan Negus, but the LDS sources that list him connected to Fabius Negus families say he is from Pennsylvania. There is in the LDS collection a lot of Negus stuff under the Coppock family with Quaker associations which lists a Stephen Negus in Philadelphia who has a daughter Olivia of too late a date for the Olive you mention. This Pennsylvania family does not show up in anything I have searched in connection to Fabius Negus families, but strong associations are found in Fabius with Jesse Negus. I could write you a chapter on this and ideas of other siblings so I think it is better to share by email. Do you still have the same address? kjowins@yahoo.com

Re: Jonathan Negus

meshelmybell — 2010-03-22 02:02:50Z

Oh yeah, the reason why I thought there was a connection to Stephen Negus b/c Ephraim Sprague and Phebe Negus had a son named Stephen.

Re: Jonathan Negus

meshelmybell — 2010-03-22 01:50:49Z

Do you know of a sibling to Phebe and Thaddeus named Olive? Are there any other siblings that you know of? IS there a lot of info on Jesse Negus or is it a dead end?

Who is the Stephen Negus related to and do you have any info on him?

Dillis Sprague was Ephraim's brother and died in 1802. In the 1800 census is he married? I have no info on him except birth and death dates. But Ephraim is my line and I have most on him except for Phebe and her family.

Thanks for the info!

Re: Jonathan Negus

kjowins1 — 2010-03-22 00:51:21Z

Hi Michelle,
Phebe Negus married Ephraim Sprague abt 1800 in Fabius. Ephraim Sprague and a Stockton were made guardians to Thaddues Negus in 1803. I think there is support that Thaddues and Phebe are siblings. That means that Jesse Negus of Kingsbury, Washington County, NY would be father to Phebe as he is to Thaddues. There is nothing to show the Stephen Negus is connected, but if you want to discuss why I strongly feel this is correct I would love to share. Dillis Sprague is also in the 1800 census next to Ephraim and might be one your looking for. I haven't traced him. kjowins@yahoo.com

Re: Jonathan Negus

meshelmybell — 2010-03-07 21:04:22Z

My Negus family was in Fabius, NY. I am trying to figure out which Negus family they belong to.

I have Phebe Negus b.1780 in NY married Ephraim Sprague abt 1800 in Fabius NY and most of their kids wereborn there. Phebe died 1813 in Cannfield, Mahoning Co OH were their youngest son was born in 1811. Father Epraim died in 1815 and I have a note that says Josiah Epraim Sprague (son of Ephraim and Phebe Negus) was raised by an Uncle in Fabius, NY and went to Erie Co., PA when he was 18. That's where he met his wife Susannah Loomis.

I have no idea who the uncle is and have not found anything about them. If someone had Fabius 1820 census they might be able to find them.
Children
1)Lydia Sprague b.1801 and mar. Elias Willard Benson in Mar. 1820 in Fabius.
2)Polly Sprague b.1803 mar. Hiram Beach in Fabius in 1823
3)David Frost Sprague b.1805 and mar. Sarah Negus(dau of Isaac Negus and Priscilla Oxx) abt 1828 in Fabius?
4)Stephan Sprague b.1808 mar. ? Had a son Durant Sprague abt 1834
5)Josiah Ephraim Sprague b.1811 mar. Susannah Loomis 1832 in Erie Co., PA.

I believe that this Phebe Negus' father is Stephan Negus as she had a son named Stephan. Also I believe she had a sister Olive who mar. Josiah Allen as Phebe named a son Josiah.

I also think there might have been a Lucy Negus as a sister and maybe a Marth, Robert or Joseph as these are names that Olive used. (could also be Josiah Allen's family names)

All these children but Lydia would be with another family in Fabius NY on the 1820 census...any help would be greatly appreciated!!!

Thanks Michelle Cox

Re: Phebe Negus and Sprague

Mippe — 2010-03-06 21:08:56Z

I'm still working on the Negus family but haven't found anything new. I do think my gg grandmother Sophronia Negus Carr has to be Permelia's sister! And daughter to Thaddeus and Elizabeth Negus. Sophronia Negus m. James Edward Carr in Fabius (per civil war pension records of Thaddeus) and they had 2 sons in the civil war, Daniel Webster Carr and Thaddeus William Carr. Sophronia and James Carr lived in Sodus, Wayne Co, NY where they farmed and had 4 children (who survived) and then moved to MI. Sophronia died of thyphoid fever in 1868. Paula

Hezekiah DAVIDSON of N.Y. area

debbie617 — 2010-03-02 04:10:05Z

Hi,
I'm searching for any history about Hezekiah Davidson, married to Sally Negus. I believe they had a son named Nathaniel Negus Davidson born Apr. 19, 1792 in Troy, N.Y. (married Almira Edwards I believe). Nathaniel would be my 4th great grandfather and Hezekiah my 5th great grandfather. Searching to go back as far as possible. Where did they immigrate from? Anyone with any information would be greatly appreciated.

Re: NEGUS in MA, VT, NY

debbie617 — 2010-03-02 03:25:44Z

Hi,
I'm searching for any history about Hezekiah Davidson, married to Sally Negus. I believe they had a son named Nathaniel Negus Davidson born Apr. 19, 1792 in Troy, NY. Nathaniel would be my 4th great grandfather and Hezekiah my 5th great. Searching to go back as far as possible. Anyone with any information would be greatly appreciated.

Re: More Aust.

tjleah1 — 2010-02-20 00:43:58Z

Hi Melinda

I should correct that. We visited Thomas Negus's grave, not Francis. I think Francis and Mary are buried in Castlemaine, VIC. That's where they were born and died. Is this the same Mary and Francis that everyone else is talking about?
Kids were William Henry, Elizabeth, Frank, Emily, Catherine, Thomas, John, James and Joseph.

Re: Francis Pepper Negus

tjleah1 — 2010-02-20 00:20:20Z

Hi Melinda

I am also an Australian wanting to know more about the Negus family history. My great grandfather is Thomas Negus who I believe was a brother of Joseph Negus. Thomas's parents were also Francis Pepper Negus and Mary Richards. We don't know more than that either but have visited Francis' grave. Apparently our great grandfathers had quite a few siblings. My Aunty and I would be very interested in finding out more too. Leah.

Re: Negus genealogy

Bernies4u — 2009-10-22 06:54:47Z

Hi Jim, not sure if you are still online, but I am also related to Johnathan Negus nd Jane Deighton, was wondering what information you might be able to add to my family ??
Bernadette

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

mnegus1 — 2009-08-05 06:11:05Z

Thank you, I have been watching your conversation it seem a lot of pieces are falling into place.

I wish I had more time to help.

The picture you posted of Oscar Jr and Horace Negus is amazing, Oscar Jr was my Grandfather Sydney's brother and the likeness is incredible.

I have not looked at my tree for a while, i will now pull out the old reaseach and have another look.

Regards

Matthew Negus
Perth Western Australia

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

lemonegg — 2009-08-04 20:32:23Z

Thomas Negus was christened in Stagsden 8/19/1694, father's name: Hennery.
On 7/18/1714 Thomas Negus married Elizabeth Neale in St. Paul Bedford.
These children were born to Thomas and Elizabeth Negus in Stagsden after that marriage.
Chr. 5/29/1715 John
Chr 12/22/1717 Elizabeth; Thomas is a farmer
Chr 4/17/1720 Thomas
Chr 2/10/1722 Robert; Thomas is a farmer
Chr 5/27/1726 Ann; farmer again
Chr 2/25/1727 Sarah
Chr 3/23/1728 John
There is no burial record for the first John Negus.
The only Thomas Elizabeth marriage in Stagsden in this time period was Thomas Negus married Elizabeth Osborn on 2/13/1702.
On 5/7/1707 Elizabeth wife of Thomas Negus died. No children were born to Thomas and Elizabeth Negus between 1702 and 1715 in Stagsden.
On 1/25/1708 Thomas and Catherine Negus started having children.

From this I think it’s probable that the Elizabeth mother of John, et al. was Elizabeth Neale.
I know nothing about her, except that she is not the daughter of John Neale and Ann Bentley born 8/27/1696. That Elizabeth died in 1698.

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

lemonegg — 2009-08-04 07:19:20Z

I am retired so I can spend a lot of time doing research. I am posting on Ancestry what I have found about Hannah. I believe she is the Hannah in the 1841 census in Bedford, daughter of John Marshall.
The family seems to have been in Kent in 1822 when daughter Harriet was christened. They were in India in 1823 when Hannah was christened. There is a gap in children from 1823 until 1831 when they were back in Kent.
The dates of the christenings are:
Harriet: 6/2/1822 Canterbury Kent
Hannah: 4/30/1823 Kaira India
Adelaide West (married William S Foll) 8/17/1831 Chatham, Kent
Hilare: b. 10/21/1836: Ampthill Bedford
Patience: b. 12/15/1840 Ampthill Bedford

Hannah and Patience never married. Hilare appears to have died young.

The ages in the 1841 census aren't accurate, but I think they are explainable if you realize that Mother Mary Ann trimmed five years off HER age when she reported to the census taker in 1841.
John Marshall may have been a civil servant when he was in India. He became a notary, a recorder of births and deaths, and an actuary once he moved to Bedford between 1831 and 1836.
Hannah Clara is the only child recorded for Mary Ann Nichols and John Marshall when they were in India. Their return to Kent in 1831 would correspond to the transfer of the military station out of Kheda in 1830.
I have a birth certificate for Horace Negus from Victoria Australia, as well as his burial papers and naturalization papers. I have the marriage certificate for Edwin William Negus and Eliza Ambrose, which gives Edwin's POB as Bedford, Eliza'S POB as Poplar Middlesex, his parents as William, butcher, and Clara (Marshall) Negus, and hers as Joseph Ambrose, miner, and Frances (North) Ambrose. The Neguses lived in Inglewood, and Ambrosees lived in Tyler. Frances died before Joseph and Eliza moved to Australia in 1862.
I also spent some time in the library in Melbourne, and found that there were numerous Neguses in Melbourne up until 1900, when they all seemed to have vanished. I subsequently traced them to West Australia, where many of the descendants of the older kids of Edwin and Eliza still live.
When Horace came to the US in 1904, he left from Perth.
I'll send you my e-mail by the message function.
George the butcher in the marriage license of John I suspect is the same George the innkeeper in the 1851 census, so there may be only one George in Bedford in 1841.
Dave

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

jathomp168 — 2009-08-03 19:09:51Z

Have you tried putting in Hannah clara marshall into the 1841 census , there is one born bedford re her birth year .

Do you think she could have been born East Indies Re the 1851 census

I have taken off every Negus + name variants in all the census years, collated them from year to year with families ,birth, marriages and death etc .

I have reason to believe I am 'missing ' a George and Elizabeth in BEDFORD for the 1841 census, I have the census on disc here at home so I shall walk the streets tonight and see if I can find them .

They could have left the shores of the uk or moved to another county .

name variants ---- neezes , negers, neyus , reans , megus neegus, neagus,hauss,megale,neguss,mgnuss,neging, monus, magus,negen ,neyers,nigers,-------etc etc all mainly transcription errors but only found through tracing the families through the years .

I shall keep quite for a while ,collate all the information and trace this other ? george .

may i ask if you have any certificates ?

also can we communicate through email addressess
regards jacky

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

lemonegg — 2009-08-03 17:45:38Z

William Edwin, his son Edwin William, and his grandson Allan were all butchers, although Allan preferred to call himself a "meat merchant".
If your John b. 1823 married a Sarah then I believe he is probably this man:

1851 census
Brook end Eversholt Bedfs
John Negus Head Mar 26 M Butcher Crawley
Sarah wife Mar 24 F -- Crawley
Emily dau 1 F Eversholt
Christopher saunders servant Umn 16 M Butchers Lab Ridgmont
Hannah Barnwell servant Unm House servant Woborn

1861 census
Brook end Eversholt Bedfs
John Negus Mar 35 M Butcher (employing 1 man 1 boy) b. Husbourne Crawley
Sarah wife Mar 33 F b. Husbourne Crawley
Emily dau unm 11 F Scholar b. Eversholt
Henry T son 9 M Scholar b. Eversholt
John A son 5 Scholar Eversholt
Laura L dau 5 mo Eversholt
Eliza Lattemore Serv Unm 17 General servant b. Salford Bedf

1871 census
Brook end, Eversholt Bedfs
Butcher shop & home
John Negus Head M 46 Butcher & Grazier of 37 acres (1 man & 2 boys) b. Husb Crawley
Sarah wife F 44 b. Husb Crawley
Henry son 18 M Butcher b. Eversholt
John son 14 M scholar Eversholt
Laura day 10 F Scholar Eversholt
Gertrude dau 7 F scholar Eversholt
William son 5 M scholar Eversholt
George Tompkins Servant 60 M Unmar Butcher b. Potsgrove Bedf

1881 census
Brookend Parish, Eversholt Dist 4 Bedf
John Negus M 56 Butcher, H Crawley
Sarah wife F 55 Butcher's wife, H Crawley
Emily dau F 30 Butcher's daughter Eversholt
John A son M 25 Grocer Eversholt
Laura L dau F 20 Teacher of music

1901 census
[Town Farm] Pulloxhill Dist 6 Bedf
St James Parrish, Reg District Ampthill
John Negus Boarder M 77 Wd Retired Butcher b. Husbourne Crawley
Lives with Edward Abbott and family

Sarah died in 1886 in Woburn. John died in 1905 in Ampthill, age 81.
George and Elizabeth Negus had three children christened in Husbourne Crawley at the parish church:
Emma 5/18/1816
William Edwin and Samuel both on 3/4/1822.
John (10/23/1823, matching yours) and Joseph (5/8/1828) both had their births recorded at the Baptist Church in Ridgmont. The IGI does not show a Baptist Church in Husbourne Crawley, so if George and/or Elizabeth became a Baptist between the christening of William and Samuel, and the birth of John, the nearest Baptist church would have been in Ridgmont. John consistently gave his place of birth as Husbourne Crawley in the census.
A further note on Elizabeth Darker. There is no one with a surname of Darker in either the Ridgmont or Husbourne Crawley parish registers. And it would seem unlikely that Elizabeth Darker (married 8/30/1800, not 1810 as I wrote before) would start having children in 1816 and continue on into the 1820’s. A George Negus, born in Bedford, age 71 lives in Leicester in 1851. George Negus living in Husbourne Crawley was 64, so he was unlikely to have married in 1800.
This conversation has really been helpful for me. Spurred by thinking about William and Clara, I found in IGI:
Hannah Clara Marshall. chr. 4/30/1823 in Kaira (now Kheda) India. Parents John and Mary Ann. According to Wikipedia, Kheda was a major military station from 1803 until 1830. There is a bit of an age discrepancy, but it certainly is promising.

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

jathomp168 — 2009-08-03 06:50:08Z

I have a marriage certificate of John Negus b 23 october 1823 son of george
George's occupation is Butcher which fits with william edwins ?
i shall look for the two georges and elizabeth's .
one is a butcher one a innkeeper

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

lemonegg — 2009-08-02 23:33:10Z

I need to spend more time looking at my notes before I reply.
The printed parish registers that I use stop at 1812, so I can't verify this, but the IGI transciption of the Ridgmont parish register lists Elizabeth Arnold and Thomas Negus as parents of Joseph Negus chr. 1828 and John Negus chr. 1823. There is a discrepancy in the age of John between the IGI christening and the census data from 1841 to 1881, which have him born about 1825. I have the found the IGI to have many, many typos. I will have a chance to see the microfilm of the original records soon, and if the discrepancy does exist, I may have to re-evaluate.

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

lemonegg — 2009-08-02 23:12:05Z

Edwin was christened in Marston Moretaine 8/22/1852; parents were William and Hannah Clara.

Re: Negus In Bedford, England

lemonegg — 2009-08-02 22:40:34Z

I think you have confused my tree (Peacock Family Tree) with a tree (West Family Roots, Branches, and Twigs) written by descendents of Allan Negus, the older brother of Horace.

I believe my George's wife is Elizabeth Arnold, not Elizabeth Darker.

A George Negus married Elizabeth Darker at St. Cuthbert's in Bedford in 1810, but I do not believe they are the couple in the 1851 census.

The census gives the place of birth of both George and Elizabeth as Ridgmont. Elizabeth Arnold was chistened at Ridgmont in 1792. George Negus and Elizabeth Arnold were married at Ridgmont in 1815.

Elizabeth Arnold is the same age as the 1851 census Elizabeth. The Ridgmont Parish register notes she was age 3 at baptism. She was baptized the same day as her younger brother Isaac.

The 1851 George Negus was baptized 1/30/1785 in Ridgmont, son of Thomas and Ann Negus (who were called “poor”.) I believe Ann was Ann Betly, who married a Thomas Niggous/Negus in 1775 in Ridgmont.

As for Mary, I think she is not the daughter of Clara. Clara would have been 15 when Mary was born, which, if not impossible, surely is unlikely. Clara regularly had children in 1851, 1852, and 1854 after she married in 1850.

I don’t interpret the mark in the last column as being an indication that Mary was deaf or blind. It appears to be made with a different pen than that of the census taker. I suspect it is a mark made by a clerk while the census was being tabulated. Mary is a scholar. I am not certain about the situation in England, but it seems unlikely in 1851 if she were deaf or blind, she would be attending school.