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Re: Orchard Branches of North America

ArGirl — 2012-05-06 23:49:02Z

Yes, that will be great but I'll need to get back to you next week. I'm in seminary and finals are next week! Will be in touch and looking forward very much to sorting it out!

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

Flatiron23 — 2012-05-06 23:24:12Z

In looking at Cornwall baptisms for John and Christian Orchard, there are "hits" both in Illogan Parish and in Tintagel Parish. The Tintagel ones seem to match the 1850 Honesdale PA census for John and Christian. I am now guessing there are two sets of "John and Christian". The Illogan couple had a James J. in 1827 and several more.

Could we discuss "off board" so we can sort it out. Then we can come back and share with the Board.

Bill - wfamolim@gmail.com

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

ArGirl — 2012-05-06 18:25:44Z

Thank you for your responses. This takes me a little farther.

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

Flatiron23 — 2012-05-06 14:35:57Z

*1840 census for Honesdale, Wayne Co, PA: John Orchard; William Orchard
*16 Aug 1845 Dorcas Orchard, wife of William, buried Old Honesdale Cem (inscription "Aged 38 years and 2 mos."
*28 May 1829 in Stratton Parish, Cornwall, marriage of William Orchard and Dorcas Palmer
*1850 census William has a new wife named Emma
*1850 census John Orchard is married to Christian
*7 August 1819 in Illogan Parish, Cornwall, marriage of John Orchard to Christian Willoughby
Are these the correct marriages for William and John? My best guess is YES.

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

MargaretMelaney — 2012-05-06 07:08:20Z

You may be right. Check out this book, which mentions a James Orchard in Pennsylvania:
The Cousin Jacks: the Cornish in America by Alfred Leslie Rowse.

You still need more information before you can jump the pond. Try to find wills which might mention siblings, or land records for the farm. Also a history of the area, which apparently includes Berlin and Honesdale PA
http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/26968006/person/12216163014

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

ArGirl — 2012-05-06 04:01:16Z

I am an Orchard descendant and suspect they came from Cornwall because of ancestor's name Charles Wesley Orchard, born 1872 in Wayne County PA. Know Methodist movement strong in Cornwall in mid-late 1700s.

Charles Wesley Orchard's father was James J. (born bt 1825-28 in England; died 1897). James J. was married to Julia Warwick (1832-1916 in PA,USA)

Our Orchards were in PA and NY.

Haven't been able to make the leap back from USA to England. Any ideas how to proceed? Thanks

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

Ken F STEWART — 2012-05-05 03:46:32Z

The North American ORCHARDS and the Australian ORCHARDS were seeded from many different sources.
I have been researching the southern Cornwall branches for some time now, and members of this family have turned up, in large numbers in North America and Australia that I know of. But they are just a small part of the ORCHARDS in both these areas.
With much help from other researchers we have estimated that the southern Cornwall ORCHARD family came from around Week St Mary (1440), but where before that ???.
Our combined research is on my web pages at
http://members.iinet.net.au/~kjstew/OrchORIG.htm
and the southern Cornwall families are expanded at
http://members.iinet.net.au/~kjstew/OrchINDEX.htm
For your information
Ken STEWART

Re: Orchards of Chideock, Bridport, Dorset England

fredsnow17 — 2012-04-30 16:12:37Z

I see that you are a dec. of Scadding. I am looking for info on the Kingman family
My 4th great grand mother was Ann Scadding who married a George Kingman circa 1835 in Chideock, Dorset. she was born in Symondsbury (I think) about 1812. George Kingman died about 1844 and Ann Scadding-Kingman married James Perrott in 1845
I was wondering if my Ann Scadding is related to your Scadding and if so do you have any bit of info on the Kingman.
I know George and Ann Kingman had kids, Sarah Ann 1836, Martha 1837, Susan 1840, and william 1842. I think but not sure that this William shows up in Newfoundland in 1866 married to a Charity Stone. It is the connection between George/Ann(Scadding)Kingman and William/Charity(Stone) Kingman that I need to make for my tree to be correct. Just a long shot but will try almost anything now. thank you

Re: Cornwall to Devon and Bristol

lindaokazaki — 2012-02-19 19:00:12Z

My John Orchard, b abt 1791 in England, married Mary Hambley in Lesnewth, Cornwall 1820. He appears to have had a son,James, from an earlier marriage. John and Mary lived in the Boscastle, Cornwall area from their marriage until about 1833, when he immigrated to New York. Mary and the children arrived there in 1840. They settled in Dutchess County, NY. Mary seems to have come from a long line of Hambleys in Cornwall. I do not know the parents or birth location of John. John and Mary were non-conformists. John was likely a tinsmith or blacksmith. If this seems like a connection, feel free to email me at tlokazaki@aol.com.

adoptions

michigan360 — 2012-02-04 18:47:11Z

I'm looking for my mother, sister, brother or father of a Melissa Dawn Orchard I am ther sister or daughter. I was born in 1971 in evensville In. on feb. 10th. 1971. was adopted when i was 7or 8yrs. old. im also looking for any family members that fit this dicription. I know that my sister shannon was also adopted. don't have any other info. on anyone else though. if some is out there and sees this and knows any information please get in contact with me my phone is (1-405)605-3056 or (1-405) 595-6719-(cell) thank you for your help. I have been searching for them for 41 yrs. and have found nothing thus far.

Cornwall to Devon and Bristol

Flatiron23 — 2012-01-19 17:35:41Z

Are there any persons on this forum who descend from the Orchards of Cornwall, Devon or Bristol?

I have information (a detailed pedigree chart) showing the linkage back to Week St. Mary (Cornwall) Orchard's of:

*the Orchard's of Hartland (Devon), who had property interests in Carhampton Hundred in Somerset; and

*the Orchard's of Bristol (deeply involved in the Society of Friends).

I would be happy to share my research and the chart.

Re: Orchard DNA Project

johnorchard124 — 2012-01-15 02:27:20Z

The surname Orchard is as Anglo-Saxon a name as it is ever likely to be. It is most prevalent in the area that was the heartland of the Kingdom of Wessex. The written form varied depending on which ancient document that you refer to but orceard in the Old English tongue was almost certainly pronounced as we now pronounce Orchard. Ironically the OE name for an orchard was orceardleh, the leh element referring to a piece of ground or field, whereas orceard or ortgeard was the word for garden.
In middle English, that of Chaucer, it became associated specifically with a fruit garden. The OE word for gardener was orcerdweard.

The conjecture about the Clan Urquhart is silly on two levels. Firstly Urqhuart rightly does not have anything to do with the Highlands - it was a Norman-French family name introduced during the reign of King David, the son of King Malcolm and his Anglo-Saxon Queen, St Margaret. The clans were a characteristic of the Highlands.
Secondly, the name Orchard was apparently adopted by some Urqhuarts, presumably because it is more readily acceptable in the English language, but that is the reverse of imagining that the Orchard name derived from a Norman-French one.

In respect of your idea about distribution. The Isle of Wight certainly has a good number of Orchard's but they were not in any higher level of distribution than in the whole of the county of Hampshire (of which IoW was once a part). Hants and IoW together might claim the status of the 'county' with the most Orchard's, but then Gloucestershire with Bristol might be entitled to that crown. Hants and IoW was the first areas to be taken over and controlled by the Gewisse, that Anglo-Saxon Clan that came later to be the Royal House of Wessex; they landed in Southampton Water led by Cerdic and his immediate family. Cornwall, equally has always had a good number of Orchard's, especially around Launceston, but the concentration is not as great as in Hants or Gloucestershire.

Lastly; the name was for the most part a metonymic, or at least place related. The chances of large numbers of Orchard's being DNA related, except in deep mytochondrial terms, is very low. Probably every village had an orchard or two and the man who held it was probably called it. My own 3x great grandfather was, strangely, a gardener; his name was Orchard, but because of the Wiltshire accent it was usually pronounced Archard.

John Orchard
of the Wiltshire Orchards (where there are at least as great a concentration as in Cornwall!)

Re: Orchard DNA Project

Flatiron23 — 2012-01-14 19:18:54Z

Perhaps the way to proceed would be to join the Orchard ydna project.

I do not want to post the url to the project site as that might be considered undue advertising.

Justin and other interested people could contact me directly at wfamolim@gmail.com to continue this discussion.

Thank you.

Re: Orchard DNA Project

justinorchard — 2012-01-14 16:10:43Z

It would be invaluable if the Isle of Wight Orchards could be related to the Cornish Orchards, as they are the largest branches that I am aware of. I think it would also be valuable if the Orchard DNA Project can be related to the Urquhart surname. There has been conjecture over the years that all of these families originally broke off from the Urquhart Clan of Loch Ness.

-Justin Orchard of the Isle of Wight Orchard’s
www.orchardfamilyhistory.com

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

lindaokazaki — 2012-01-13 21:59:54Z

Hi Judith
Glad to know you are interested in the Orchard line. Feel free to contact me at tlokazaki@aol.com. I haven't been able to get further back than John and Mary's marriage record in Cornwall. Have suspicions about Mary's parents but no proof. "Cousin" Linda in California

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

judith_knauss — 2012-01-13 21:40:26Z

Hi, Linda.

I'm really new to the geneaolgy thing, and have only just recently discovered that I had Orchard roots. My father's mother, Dorothy VanNosdall, was Mary Orchard's granddaughter (Mary being the daughter of John and Mary Hambley Orchard). I'm really interested in tracing back the Cornish end of things. Have you done any of this? And how are you tied in? We must be distant cousins,yes?

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Judith

Orchard DNA Project

Flatiron23 — 2011-11-22 17:30:30Z

An Orchard surname DNA project has quite recently been created at Family Tree DNA. The public website for this project is located at worldfamilies.net.

The project is designed to assist participants who hope to confirm relationships of individuals or family lines, establish a country or area of origin and strengthen paper trail evidence. The Orchard surname is frequently seen in southwestern England. At times the spelling is Archard, and there are other variations. Researchers of Orchard and all spelling variations are invited to join the project.

Re: Henry Issac Orchard

1_dlaws — 2011-08-29 17:12:01Z

henry issac orchard was my mother's grandfather on her mother's side. my mother recorded audiolly all details of her family including details of henry & his siblings. my grandfather [my mother's father] changed his name in his teens because he ran away & joined the army.

Joseph Orchard b 1837 Wotton under Edge m Eliza Binding

SusanTinklin01 — 2010-08-21 11:23:21Z

I'm looking for the siblings and parents of Joseph Orchard b 1837 and married Eliza Binding in Clevedon. I want to trace the birth place of his parents, Im trying to find a connection the the North Devon/Cornwall Orchards.
Hope someone can help
Thanks

Re: MCKINNEY/ORCHARD

mdgreenslade — 2010-07-26 16:43:41Z

Hello, My family also has an Orchard connection in Washington County Indiana.

Margaret Mitchell married Isaac Orchard. My family is connected to the Mitchells, do you have any information about Mitchell/Orchard line. It also appears hyphenated just like your McKinney/Orchard. Was this something that the Orchard family was known for back then?

My part of these families was centered around Livonia in Western Washington County Indiana.

Michael Greenslade
334-7800

Re: Eunice or Isaac Orchard

mdgreenslade — 2010-07-26 16:00:35Z

We have a Mitchell-Orchard family bible with all the births and deaths.

It was part of my father's possessions. When my dad passed away many of his things were put in storage. I am sure that it's out there.

My Great Great Great Grandparents were William Mitchell and Nancy (Goodloe) Mitchell. Their daughter, Caroline Frances Mitchell Married William Moore Greenslade.

The Mitchells and Greenslades were around the Livonia, Washington County, Indiana area. (Near French Lick West Baden)

Michael Greenslade
510 334-7800

Edward Orchard / Archard

Lgaard11 — 2010-07-03 21:29:31Z

I'm looking for any information about the parents or childhood or siblings of Edward Orchard (once listed as Archard in a census record). He was born in Stourbridge, Worcestershire England in 1813, and married Mary-Anne Towers in 1837. They moved to Bridnorth Shropshire England and had 9 children: George(1839), Emily(1840), Mary Anne(1841), Edward(1842), Edwin(1843), John(1844), Jane(1847), Francis(1848) and Henry(1855)

If anyone has any information, that would be fantastic!

Louisa F. Orchard who died 1907 in Baltimore, MD

mclaughlin_dale — 2010-04-25 15:50:15Z

While looking for an old obituary, I found the following in the Baltimore Sun newspaper dated February 13, 1907, page. 4. Louisa F. Orchard died February 12, 1907 at 7:30 am at her residence, No 1402 North Central Avenue. Was beloved wife of the late Samuel C. Orchard. Due notice will be given of funeral.

Re: Evelyn Orchard

jefna_1 — 2010-03-19 01:11:16Z

Hi Danielle,

I'm working on the Healey branch of my family, who came from England and settled in the Bendigo region, with Golden Square in the mix. I don't have any of your family's names, but have a lot of 'gaps'. Maybe I can help in some way, as I live in the district near Castlemaine.

My Healeys:
William and Mary Jane (Clarke)who had 12 children, inlcuding my g-grandfather Henry who married Christina Mary (Bridget) Gray. They didn't stay around the Bendigo area, but other family members did.

There are 'Orchards' in the area, but whether they are your rellies or not I don't know.

Jen

Re: Searching for my husband's oldest son Now living in Capetown,So.Africa

evanfranklin54 — 2010-02-22 14:41:50Z

Is this James Orchard you are referring to?

Re: Orchard Family Gloucestershire

evanfranklin54 — 2010-02-20 15:58:08Z

Hi Anita
Have you come across any of the under mentioned.

I am researching my 3rd Great-Grandfather James Orchard. According to his wedding records his residence at time of marriage was Bristol, UK.

Marriage St Georges, Anglican Church, Cape Town
Orchard, James
Date Of Marriage: 23 April 1832 Place Of Marriage: Cape Town Day Of Week: Monday His Condition: Bachelor. His Residence At Time Of Marriage: Bristol, UK After Banns Or Licence: Forms and Ceremonies Her First Names: Ellen Her Surname: Vippond (Died 19 May 1841) Her Condition: Spinster Her Country Of Birth: Cork, Ireland

At this stage the following are the two best leads that I have:

James b1801 - d1803 at Wootton Courtney in Somerset, England.
James born 1 Jul 1803 and bapt 10 Jul 1803 at Wootton Courtney, Somerset, England. He was the son of Thomas Orchard b1776 bapt 11 Feb 1776 in Dunster, Somerset, England and died 1852 in Bristol, Avon. His mother Sarah [nee Cridge] b1781 bapt 16 Sep 1781 and died 16 Sep 1824 in Wootton Courtney, Somerset, England. His mother and father married 6 Oct 1800 in Wootton Courtney.

James baptise27 march 1803 the son of James Orchard and his wife Hannah Rolph in Old Sodbury, Gloucestershire. The family apparently moved to Bristol. There were 12 children.

I have the full Orchard tree in South Africa since 1832 and now dearly wish to find the Bristol link.
Regards Evan Franklin eMail address: franksa@mweb.co.za

Re: Evelyn Orchard

ahunterclan — 2010-01-23 09:14:08Z

Hi,
I have lots of Orchards in Victoria but mainly around Winchelsea and Geelong. They are the children of Thomas Orchard and Susannah Templar.
One child, John T. Orchard (b.circa 1835) married Sarah Jane Groves 1867 Vic. They had children from 1868 onwards in St Arnaud, Donald and Elmore. John was one of 15 children who all came to Australia. Nearly all of the others married and had children in Winchelsea and Geelong.
Let me know if you can see any link
Cheers
Andrea

Re: ORCHARDS of Marshwood, Dorset

GraceMorrow44 — 2010-01-22 23:46:37Z

Hi,
No sorry mine of that era were all born in Dorset

Regards Grace

Re: ORCHARDS of Marshwood, Dorset

bigmillsy — 2010-01-22 23:06:27Z

Hi

Just wondering if you have an Evelyn Orchard in your family tree. She would have been born about 1869.

She married into my family tree, marrying Henry Healey (whose real name may have been George William)

One of their daughters was Clara Healey who is my Great Grandmother.

I'm not sure where she was born but would have lived somewhere in or near Inglewood in Victoria (Aust)

Thanks

Danielle

Evelyn Orchard

bigmillsy — 2010-01-04 08:23:35Z

Hi

I'm having trouble locating info on Evelyn Orchard, born approx 1869 near Castlemaine, Victoria.She married Henry Healey (REAL NAME MAY HAVE BEEN GEORGE WILLIAM HEALEY) she is my Great Great grandmother on my maternal side and the only inforamtion I can locate is she is listed as my Great Grandmothers mother on her birth certficate. (clara Healey) She would have relocated to Golden Square near Bendigo.

Her Children would have been
Sarah Myrtle Healey?
Henry Gilbert Healey
Clare Healey (my great grandmother referred to as Clara)
George William Healey.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks
Danielle

Re: Alex and Mary Orchard from Spring Valley, MO

JennyPierce60 — 2009-11-28 16:30:55Z

I too am pleased that someone else is working on the Orchards. I've only ever gotten 2 replys. The information online is so old, that I have a new account and have been unable to update what is there, but I will try. For now, I can tell you what I do know about Alex after he left Missouri.

Alex married Mary M. in Spring Valley, MO. (I think her name may have been Mary Margaret or Margaret Mary because on a later census, she was listed as "Maggie." When they married, Mary already had a young son named George Washington Brinkley (this is our line). Mary and Alex first show up together on the 1880 census on Spring Hill, MO when George was 12. She and George were born (according to the censuses) in Kentucky where the Orchards hailed from (I've always wondered if there was a previous connection.) I do wish we know what her maiden name or prior name was - it was a story the family would never tell. I've never been able to find a marriage record in Missouri for the two of them. Anyway, Alex took him on too. He must have been a good father to George because he named one of his own sons "Ralph Alex." Somewhere between 1880 & 1900 they all moved to Hunt County, TX where George farmed and Alex worked as a blacksmith.

Alex and Mary had four children, three daughters and a sons:
1. Jessie D. Orchard b: 31 Jul 1877 d: 16 Jan 1918 in Denton Texas of burns suffered after her clothing caught fire while boiling clothes for laundry. She was married to Charles "Coke" Fannin Barnett (a blacksmith) between 1906-07. They had two sons: Robert Earl, b: Dec 1917, Denton, TX - died after 1945 and Willie Coke b: 27 Oct 1914 in Hunt Co, TX and died 27 Oct 1914 in Hunt Co.
2. James Robert Orchard, born March 1878 in Hunt Co, TX. d: after 1930, probably in Texas. In 1930 he was listed as a carpenter. Married to Etta Baldwin 31 Jan 1900 in Hunt Co, TX. They had two children: Roy E. born 31 Dec 1900 in Greeneville, TX, d: 9 Nov 1957 in Odessa, TX. (Married to Laura Gene McAteer in 1922 and they had 6 children.). Second child was Edna D. born about 1913.
3. Susan Effie Ann Orchard was born Apr 1880 in Missouri and died 20 Jan 1915 in Hunt Co, TX. She married William Glenn Barnett (a blacksmith) on 12 Nov 1899 in Hunt Co, TX and they had 3 children.
4. Ellie Becky Orchard was born Nov. 1882 in Missouri and died 4 July 1935 in Hunt Co. She married Jasper Peyton Barnett (a farmer) on 07 Mar 1900 in Hunt Co, TX. They had 7 children. She died of what sounds like pneumonia.

Note the three sisters married three brothers. It was one of those family stories you don't pay alot of attention to, but is how I finally unraveled them, finding one husband then tracing back through his family to find the other two marriages. It is sad that none of the girls lived to old age.

And I too have found the confusion with the names. Alex did the same with his own children- James, after his brother, Jessie after his father, Susan Effie Ann, was James' wife. It is obvious he thought a great deal of his family.

Sadly, Alex took his own life on 26 Apr 1901 in Greeneville, TX. I found this online:
From the Hunt, Tx GenWeb Project
1901 Deaths from the "Commerce Journal", Greenville Herald
Excerpt:
Drank Wood Alcohol.
News was brought to the city from Neyland yesterday coming of the death of Mr. A. Orchard of that community. He had for some time past been very disconsolate and tired to drown his sorrows in drink. It seems that he had been in our city for several days but had returned home on Thursday.
Friday afternoon he went to a store at Neyland and made the remark that "he was mighty dry" and asked for some stimulant. He was told they had nothing but wood alcohol. He walked back and took one spoonful, diluted, then followed it up with several other doses, with the usual result. It is said that there had been some family troubles but no investigation or inquest of the body held by the authorities. Doubtless this drink was taken with suicidal intent, the deceased not being in his right mind at the time.

Earlier, another researcher had sent me this about his brother, Sen. James Orchard in relation to Alex' death:
DEATH: The Current Wave (Eminence, Shannon County, Mo.)
May 2, 1901

Sudden Death..
Senator Orchard goes to attend the funeral of a brother in Texas.
In response to a telegram recieved late Friday afternoonn, announcing the death of his brother, Alex Orchard, in Texas, Senator James Orchard left on the fast train at 1 o'clock this morning for Greenville, Tex. He will arrive there about 6 o'clock this evening, in time for the funeral, which will probably take place Sunday.
The news of his brother's death was a shock to Senator Orchard and family. He died suddenly, but no particulars have been recieved.
Alex Orchard is a younger brother of Senator Orchard and was 47 years old. He formerly lived in Shannon County, this state; had served as Assessor of the county, and was well known in this part of the state. He moved to Texas some years ago and was engaged in farming. He recently moved from Campbell, Tex., to near Greenville, where he died. He leaves a wife and five children, all of whom but one are married. Senator Orchard had not seen his brother for some fifteen years, and has a long, sad journey to the stricken home. He will remain for several days with the bereaved family.

Since the dates were the same, it confirmed the A. Orchard was our Alex Orchard. The suicide was another one of those family sstories that no one ever talked about.

The following is Mary M. (Brinkley) Orchard's obituary, which confirms some of the information:
From OKCHOCTA - Choctaw County Oklahoma Genealogy (found 11/2/07):
MARY M. ORCHARD
Mother of G.W. Brinkley Dies
The Boswell News – December 15, 1932
Transcribed by Ron Henson for OKCHOCTA:
Mrs. M.M. Orchard, mother of Mr. G.W. Brinkley, died rather suddenly Tuesday night at 9 o’clock and the body was carried to Campbell, Texas, Wednesday for burial Thursday. A more extensive write-up will appear in next week’s News.

Mrs. Orchard Buried Last Week
The Boswell News - December 15, 1932
Transcribed by Ron Henson for OKCHOCTA
Mr. and Mrs. G.W. Brinkley and family returned last week from Commerce, Texas, where they attended the funeral of Mrs. Mary Orchard, Mr. Brinkley’s mother.
Mrs. Mary Orchard died Dec. 6, in the home of her son, G.W. Brinkley, here of heart failure. Mrs. Orchard was born in Kentucky March 11, 1847.
Mrs. Orchard’s funeral was held in Commerce, Dec. 8, conducted by the Rev. W.M. Rogers and interment made in the cemetery there. Pall bearers were, C.E. Brinkley, R.A. Brinkley, Evert Barrett, Fred Barrett, R.E. Barrett and C.F. Barrett.
Mrs. Orchard was a member of the Eastern Star and for 40 years a member of the Methodist church.
Mrs. Orchard is survived by three children, G.W. Brinkley, Boswell; J.R. Orchard, Abeline, Tex.; and Mrs. J.R. Barrett, of Commerce, Texas.
* * * *
(The name really was Barnett - the newspaper or the transcriptionist got it wrong in the article.)

C.E. and R.A. Brinkley were her grandsons by George. R.E. was Jessie's son. Everit and Fred were Ellie's sons and C.F. was Jessie's husband.

I hope this helps and if you find any further information I would love to know, particularly marriage information for Alex and Mary.

Re: Alexander Orchard - KY - b.c. 1769

babyorchtoo — 2009-11-27 06:52:26Z

A certain James Orchard was living in Bedford Co, VA as early as 1757 where he shows up on land records with his wife Eleanor. He was also a constable for that county according to the court records. He is listed in the muster rolls for the militia of Bedford Co in 1758. By 1775 he is listed as a Captain in Dunsmore's war with a certain John Orchard under his command. NO paper proof but this is most likely his son, the one who moves to KY with brother William. In the land records this James receives land in 1785 (Revolutionary War land grant) in Lincoln Co, VA which become Madison Co, KY. That is where his trail ends. By the earliest tax rolls in that county, it only lists John and William. William maintains his connections with Bedford Co, VA as shown in a particular court record. He also has land given to him in NC which he wishes to sell and gives one Henry Jeter of Bedford Co, VA power of attorney to sell the land. This William Orchard marries Elizabeth Crooke and they move to Hart Co, KY as shown by the 1820 census. They have three sons and one daughter. William dies in Hart Co and his son James marries Elizabeth Dawson of Hart Co. After William dies, the family moves to MO and settle in Dent and Shannon Co's. "Betsy" Crooke dies and is buried in Dent Co, MO. I am not sure where Alexander falls into the lineup in KY but it has been assumed that he is the brother of John and William, which would make his father most likely this one James Orchard from Scotland. The trail ends there.....

I hope that gives some insight to the timeline and family history.

Stacey

Re: Alex and Mary Orchard from Spring Valley, MO

babyorchtoo — 2009-11-27 06:38:07Z

I am happy to see this line of Orchards being researched. I was aware that Alex had moved to TX and saw him and his family on census rolls but had not had time to research him. I come from another line. Alex's father was Jesse Orchard, brother to my ancestor William Orchard. Alex was no doubt named for his uncle, who was named for his uncle...lol. There were four brothers in Jesse's line (William, Jesse, Jeremiah and Alexander). They were sons of one James Orchard who came to MO from TX with his brothers John and Alexander. James and John were sons of William Orchard and Elizabeth Crooke. William had two known brothers (John and Alexander). These boys were sons of one James Orchard who says he was "imported from Scotland" in 1745 and Eleanor (maiden name unknown). That is where the trail stops. As you can see, James, John, William and Alexander are all common names in this family. If at any time you run across and Alexander Orchard, more than likely he belongs to our family. Can you update your findings so that I don't duplicate your information when I am researching? Thanks!

Stacey

Re: Orchard, William b1837 England

arbuck41 — 2009-11-17 19:12:38Z

Caroline Marie Orchard was my grandmother. She married Frank Langdon and moved to Smith county, Kansas. They had three children. Gladys Carrie, Nellie Grace, and Frank Buell. she passed away around 1952 in Lebonon, Kansas. The family of William and Virtue show up on the 1880 and 1900 census in Wallace county, Kansas.

Have you found any information on William and Virtue in England. So far I haven't.
Thanks. Ralph Arbuckle arbuck41@gmail.com

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

lindaokazaki — 2009-09-21 21:12:43Z

Mary Hambley Orchard (b. abt. 1801, Eng) arrived NY May 1840 aboard the ship, Philadelphia, along with children Anne Marie, Samuel, Francis and Mary. Also with her was James Orchard (b. abt. 1815 Eng) but it is unclear if this was her son. Point of departure was London. Mary joined husband John Orchard (b. abt. 1791 Eng) and the family settled in Poughkeepsie, as per 1840 census. It remains unclear as to where/when John and Mary were married. I do not know when John came to NY or whether he came through NY, Virginia, Canada or elsewhere. Family lore tells of some affiliation with Scotland but I haven't been able to prove this. Daughters Jane and Catherine were born in NY. John and Mary are buried in New Hamburgh.

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

justinorchard — 2009-09-03 21:03:59Z

I appreciate all of the information that everyone has shared. I can shed more light on the diffusion of the Isle of Wight Orchards. Their story begins in the 1750’s in western IoW when William Orchard was born. Their family lived in IoW until, four generations later, in 1852, when William III settled in Toronto area (Bowmanville, Ontario) and married a woman from Cornwall, Emma Coleman. Their family grew a cluster of Orchards in the Toronto area. Later generations grew large clusters of Orchards in Washington, Michigan, and North Dakota. From those large clusters, smaller clusters have settled in Minnesota, Oregon, and California. This diffusion is by no means complete, the further diffusion of the large Michigan cluster is not yet known.

I wonder if there is a link out there somewhere that links the Cornwall Orchards to the IoW Orchards. My grandmother always had a hunch that there was a relation too. I have a contact that has IoW Orchard contacts and I will have to ask if there is any connection known by them.

I also wonder which branch contributed to the Orchards in Australia. That may have been the IoW Orchards, since the IoW was a resupply stop for the prison ships on their way to Australia.

Does anyone know about any connection between the Urquharts of Cromarty, Scotland and any of the Orchard branches? It is possible that the Orchards, or at least some of the Orchards, are a breakaway from that Scottish clan.

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

drhutte — 2009-09-01 23:52:33Z

I traced my orchard to 1841 Illagan, Cornwall,England-
Edmund orchard b. Nov. 19, 1809
Rachel Brache b. 1811 Isle of Guernsey
William Edwin b. April 6, 1837
James Henry b. Oct. 17, 1837
Rachel Sophia b. Jan. 3, 1840 Anna Marie b. 1850 ohio
Mary Jane b. 12 1843 Ohio
Margaret Lois b. 1847 Ohio

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

kurtram — 2009-08-28 01:39:25Z

Justin
My Orchard are first found in Ky/Mo and most moved on to Oregon. It has never been determined where they lived before coming to America. Can you help? I know that there were some early Orchards in VA.
Sue

Re: ORCHARDS of Marshwood, Dorset

sluggan1 — 2009-07-28 04:35:06Z

Hello Grace,

I have an indirect connexion through Isaac ORCHARD son of Isaac ORCHARD and Elizabeth ORCHARD nee WARREN. Isaac ORCHARD jnr., married my 3 x great grandmother's daughter Hannah Brooks PASCOE. I have more details, if you'd like to contact me at sluggan(AT)gmail(DOT)com.

Cheers,

Don.

Re: Orchard / Urquhart Connection?

tanyaorchard — 2009-07-19 07:59:09Z

Hi Justin
I am a member of the Orchard family who came from Stirling, Scotland to South Australia in 1852. I am a direct descendant of William Orchard (abt 1812-1881) and Catherine Robertson (abt 1831-?). William was born in Leicester, England and Catherine in Stirling, Scotland. Catherine's father is identified as Bengemen on their marriage record of 1848 (in Stirling). My paternal Grandad also spoke of a link between the names Urquhart and Orchard. He had been told that some of the Urquharts changed their name to Orchard when they emigrated to make it easier to say and spell. I haven't been able to verify any of this and sadly, Grandad passed away when I was just 4yrs old. I welcome any info you may come across in your search. Meanwhile, I suggest you look up www.houseofnames.com as they have a reference to the Orchard/Urquhart question
Regards and keep in touch
Tanya

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

janicefralick — 2009-05-18 23:41:00Z

Mary Beedham was born in 1800 in Ballanahinch, County Down, Ireland
She died 11 Dec 1878 in Barrie, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada and is buried at St. Paul's Cemetery, Innisfil Township, Simcoe County, Ontario, Canada.

Her husband, Joseph, arrived in Quebec, Canada on Mar 25, 1818 and she followed a year later with their first child.

They travelled to many of the frontier towns and forts in Canada. During this time they had 8 sons and 4 daughters, each one born at a different fort.

They lived in York (Toronto, Ontario) during the asiatic cholera epedemic in 1832 (she and her two oldest children got it and recovered)

In the Canadian 1871 Census - lived in Innisfil Twp - her age 74 - born in Ireland.

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

christinelw150 — 2009-05-18 15:30:59Z

Janice,
I'm intrigued about Mary Beedham that married Joseph Orchard. My family of Beedhams [lots of variants in teh spelling ]came from County Down Ireland, they moved to Durham in 1844/5. We know there is a link to Ballynahinch but keep coming up against brick walls. Do you know any more about Mary Beedham?

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

janicefralick — 2009-05-14 12:09:38Z

Here are my notes on Joseph Orchard. I know his parents and all of his descendants.

- he enlisted in the British army at the age of 19
- a soldier (stationed #746) with the 68th Regiment (The Durhams) who "served under Wellington in Spain", then he was stationed in Ireland (where he married Mary Beedham)
- then later in [North] America 1818-29 ending on October 24, 1829, He received his honourable discharge in 1831 (he also served a short stint in Quebec City, Quebec, Canada)
- he retired in 1831 with a grant of land (south half of lot 14 Con.11 Innisfil) - he moved to Innisfil (a few miles south of Barrie, Ontario, Canada) and sent for his family of five in 1833 (they had stayed in Toronto)
- in later years, they lived on a 14 acre lot near Craigvale
- he died of a broken neck as the result of a fall while fighting a fire in the roof of his home

Let me know if this helps. Janice

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

MargaretMelaney — 2009-05-14 04:54:13Z

Hi Justin - I'm aware of 2 Orchard branches:
1. Cornwall, which settled up into Devon and north through Bristol and can be traced as far as Wotton under Edge. They have some involvement with shipping in Bristol, and may have emigrated from that port.
2. The Gloucestershire group, which seems to have come from Berkshire through Wiltshire (see Bill Archard's reply). The name in Gloucester became Orchard (pronounced Archard in Glos. dialect). They settled as far north as North Nibley, but seemed to be entirely separate (per land, intermarriage, religion, and civil records) from group 1.
I have seen occasional references to an IOW group, but only later dates (prob. 1750 on) Do you think they might be part of the Cornwall family (think seafaring)? And of course the name could arise in distinct groups who happen to live near a group of fruit trees!
Good luck with your migration routes project.

Margaret Melaney
researching Orchard/Archard of the Severn Vale

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

bpetro51 — 2009-04-18 02:29:14Z

My Orchard Family came from Frome, Wiltshire, England. His father was from Westbury, Wiltshire, England Civil Parish or Township: Llanelly Town: Brynmaur County/Island: Breconshire Country: Wales. They settled in Scranton Pa.

William Orchard died 13 11 1881

devadell — 2009-03-16 03:58:06Z

I have just recieved infomation about William/Catherine who sailed from Liverpool on the 'Flora Mc Donald" 21 04 1852. They arrived at Portland, Victoria on 18 08 52. William was an Ag. Labourer from Leicester, England, 26 yrs.,C/E and was accompanied by his wife Catherine 23 yrs., both could read and write. Their son John was born just 4 days out from Portland. The family went to work for David Power near Mount Gambier.
William died 30 11 1881 in Adelaide age 61yrs.,Catherine died 25 08 1875 age 44yrs., at Redcamp...Might be Glenburnie!! What I would like to know, being new to Ancestry is...Where does he fit into the Williams that I have?? Or is he a new one?

Re: Orchard Branches of North America

justinorchard — 2009-02-25 17:18:59Z

Where did the Orchards come from that were living in Massachusetts, New York, Virginia, Pennsylvania, and Missouri?

Orchard Branches of North America

justinorchard — 2009-02-25 17:03:50Z

I'm gathering information to make a model of the Orchard family migration to North America. I intend to show the paths of the diffusion of the Orchards.

How many different branches are out there? I am aware of two main branches: the Isle of Wight Orchards and the Cornwall Orchards. Does anyone have information about other main branches?

I have heard about Orchards taking two paths thus far: Ontario, Canada, and Virgina. Does anyone have more information that I can use?

Orchard / Urquhart Connection?

justinorchard — 2009-02-25 16:55:22Z

Has anyone made an official connection between any of the American branches of the Orchard family and the Urquhart clan of Cromarty, Scotland?

Re: Orchard Family Gloucestershire

anitacmorris1 — 2009-01-30 20:20:16Z

Thanks for that, I would love to be told if you find anything interesting. Regards Anita