Osgathorpe - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: UK Search results for Osgathorpe, et al

CarolWilkerson12 — 2011-03-23 20:19:23Z

My other cousin is still looking, so keep your fingers crossed. Maybe we come from a long line of "mad hatters"? LOL

Re: UK Search results for Osgathorpe, et al

OzHumphrey — 2011-03-23 12:29:57Z

Thanks so much for sharing!! That baptism entry seems promising!

UK Search results for Osgathorpe, et al

CarolWilkerson12 — 2011-03-22 07:52:55Z

One of my cousins has access to a UK database and did a search for me today for Richard O. Her first reply to me was this:

I did some checking in the databases available on Find My Past and, while I didn't find Richard, I found there were a few Osgathorps (and/or variations) in London in the 1700's and one as early as 1632. There were quite a few in Notinghamshire & Yorkshire, and a few in Gloucestershire & London.

Found a marriage for Richard O. to Elizabeth Halforth in 1719 in Yorkshire (Boyd's mg index)

Checked Boyds inhabitants of London & family units 1200-1946 and found one entry for a female in 1632.

No results in:

Apprentices of Great Britain

Parish baptisms 1538-2005

British armed forces 1761-2005

In Parish marriages 1538-2005:

Elizabeth O. m. Thomas Green 1724 St Margaret, Westminster, London

Anne O. m. Sam Evans 1771 " "

In Probate & Wills to 1858: reference to Anne Osgathorpe Evans who inherited some money.

Civil registrations didn't start until 1837 so those are no help nor are the emigration/departure records. As Richard was kidnapped and transported there may be some shipping/cargo records but I'm not sure where. At least I know they're not on Find My Past.

Wish I could have found something solid but at least we know now what areas they were concentrated in. Of course, Richard could have been from Yorkshire or Nottingham or ??? and been kidnapped and shipped out from London as opposed to have been from London.
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In a second email later she said:

Did find this:

Parish Records Collection 1538-2005baptism

Day: 10

Month: Jul

Year: 1726

Forenames: Richard

Surname: OSGATHORP

Fathers Forenames: Richard

Occupation:

Mothers Forenames:

Abode: Monkhill

Place: Pontefract

Description: St Giles

County: Yorkshire W. Riding

Country: England

Checked: N

Notes: Hatmaker

Record source: Pontefract District Baptisms

Data provider: Pontefract & District Family History Society

****None of this is any "proof" of anything, but it does give a basis on what has been looked for or retrieved. And, gives a direction in which to look perhaps.

Re: G. Benton Osgathorpe

CarolWilkerson12 — 2011-03-21 22:36:36Z

I'm still here Linda! I don't have any answers to your questions at this point, but I will note them and keep on the lookout.

Re: G. Benton Osgathorpe

OzHumphrey — 2011-03-21 11:15:05Z

Thanks for the info. That agrees with the death date I have. Good to meet you 'cousin' (I believe we are 3rd cousins once removed, as G. Benton was my great, great grandfather).

Linda

Re: G. Benton Osgathorpe

oswiz — 2011-03-21 05:30:34Z

You may already have this information by now, but according to what I have, Gilbert Benton Osgatharp (Osgathorpe) died 22 Mar 1890 in Clay County, Tennessee. He was my great grand uncle. I am a descendant of his brother, Addison Perry.

Re: Mary Osgathorpe

OzHumphrey — 2008-05-05 11:07:23Z

Is it correct that there is about an 8 year gap between Tilman Jasper and Harriet? If so, there could easily be a female child that wasn't recorded on the census records before she was married.

Re: Mary Osgathorpe

CarolWilkerson12 — 2008-05-04 06:58:52Z

This is the two generations referred to, and the info I have:

Descendants of John Osgathorpe

1 [1] OSGATHORPE, John Source1: OSGATHARP, Erasmus: CW Veteran Questionnaires TN, Source2: SPIVEY, James--Title Bond to John OSGATHARP, Source3: 1880 United States Federal Census b: 30 Jan 1800 in Burke County, NC d: 1887 in Warren, KY
.. +CARLISLE, Susannah Source: OSGATHARP, Erasmus: CW Veteran Questionnaires TN b: in Jackson County, TN m: 1825 in Jackson County, Tennessee d: 12 Aug 1845 in Jackson County, TN
.. 2 OSGATHORPE, Harrison b: 1826 in Celina, Clay,TN d: 1910 in Celina, Clay, TN
...... +TONEY, Harriet b: 1833
.. 2 OSGATHORPE, Tilman Jasper b: 1827 in Celina, Clay, TN d: 1909 in Celina, Clay, TN
...... +TONEY, Rebecca Source: MCLERRAN, Harold b: 1826
.. 2 OSGATHORPE, Almarinda Helen Source1: 1850 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source2: 1860 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source3: 1870 Jackson County, TN Federal Census b: 1839 in TN d: in Jackson, TN
...... +SMITH, John W. Source1: 1850 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source2: 1860 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source3: 1870 Jackson County, TN Federal Census b: 1836 in Jackson County, TN m: Abt. 1849 d: 1907 in Jackson County, TN
.. 2 OSGATHARP, Harriet b: 1835
.. 2 OSGATHARP, Addison Perry Source: 1850 United States Federal Census b: 1837 in Brimstone Creek, Jackson, TN d: 1918
...... +SWEENY, Hannah (Helen) Augusta Source: MCLERRAN, Harold b: 21 Nov 1847 m: 14 Feb 1866
.. 2 OSGATHARP, George Benton Source1: Marriage Certificate for Benton OSGATHARP & Susie CHERRY, Source2: MCLERRAN, Harold b: 1840
...... +SUVIA Source: MCLERRAN, Harold b: 1850 m: 09 Mar 1880 in Clay County, TN
.. 2 OSGATHORPE, Erasmus Gaw Source1: TN, Clay county History Book (1986), Source2: MCLERRAN, Harold b: 1843 d: 1928
...... +PLUMLEE, Rachel Prescovia Source: MCLERRAN, Harold b: 1856 d: 1921
.. 2 OSGATHORPE, Almira Edna Source1: 1850 United States Federal Census, Source2: 1870 United States Federal Census b: 1845 d: 1904
*2nd Wife of [1] OSGATHORPE, John:
.. +POLLY Source: 1880 United States Federal Census m: Bef. 1871 d: 1880

Let me know if you get the book. Sure would like to see that picture. :) Carol

Mary Osgathorpe

OzHumphrey — 2008-04-18 15:38:56Z

I've come across some interesting info. and hoping someone could shed some light. I've don't have my ancestry.com subscription right now so I can't do any census checking. There is a book called Franklin County, IL published by Turner Publishing Co. (ISBN: 1-56311-317-1) that has an entry about the descendents of Elizabeth Mary Osgathorpe, who was born in Jackson Co., TN. From the names of her descendents is seems as if she belongs to the John A. Osgatharp and Susannah Carlisle family. Here is the info.:
William Campbell Price m. Elizabeth Mary Osgathorpe (it gives a birth year of 1822, but I am unsure if it refers to Wm or Eliz.) had 5 sons born in Jackson Co, TN
-Liberty Green b. 1845 m. Mary Parks Tucker, Emma Bayless
-Harrison Patterson b. 1847 m. Nancy Tooney
-John Osgathorpe b. 6/11/1850 m. Sarah Louis Webb on 10/19/1882 in Franklin Co, IL
-Addison Pillow b. 1852 m. Clara Matilda Eaton
-Samuel b. 1857 m. Anna Mueller Rosback

It also states that William and Elizabeth Mary Price left Jackson Co. at the start of the civil war b/c they were union sympathizers. Liberty Green joined the Union Army.

Anyone know of this family or Elizabeth Mary? My father has talked before about a Mary Osgathorpe/Osgatharp being a child of John A. and Susannah Carlisle, but just couldn't remember anything except a name (and wasn't entirely certain John and Susannah were the parents).

Oh, almost forgot, there is a photo of the family in the book, but I couldn't view it online as it was copywrite protected. I'm going to do some library searching to see if I can find it.
TIA,
Linda

Re: Osgatharp family research

SheilaMorring — 2007-12-23 20:11:15Z

I would love to exchange information with you. I don't have all of Addison's childrens information, need help with birth and death dates, places of burial. Do you have any obits or marriage records? Have you been to the gencircles website to verify what information I have gathered so far? Do you have any cemetery headstone photos or other old family photos you could share with me? I have a photo of Erasmus and his family circa 1918.
You can email me direct if you want, at gsmorring@sbcglobal.net
Thank you
Sheila

Re: Osgatharp family research

mosgath — 2007-12-23 05:20:16Z

Sheila,

I am just getting started in researching our family genealogy. I am a descendant of Addison Perry Osgatharp. My grandfather was Myrle Dean, son of Herbert. My Father is Kenneth. I would be happy to provide any information that I can.

Thanks.

Osgatharp family research

SheilaMorring — 2007-11-26 23:29:04Z

I am a descendant of Erasmus Gaw Osgatharp and I am trying to gather information on all the Osgatharp family. Sheila (Allen) Morring daughter of Wilma (Walker) Allen, daughter of Ruby (Head) Walker daughter of Mary Florence (Osgatharp) Head daughter of Erasmus Gaw Osgatharp son of John Osgatharp.
I have Family Tree Legend software to put the information into and it all can be viewed at:
Genealogists can reach you at your GenCircles address below:
http://www.gencircles.com/users/sheilamorring
I know errors will be found so please let me know what the true information is. I also have family photos of Erasmus's family, and if there are any others with old family photos I would love to share. I would like help identifying all the children of Erasmus in the photo.
Sheila- TX

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

CarolWilkerson12 — 2007-11-13 06:55:21Z

Hi Sheila,

I would be happy to share anything I have on the Richard Osgatharp line. Contact me at webduckie AT yahoo DOT com if you like.

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

SheilaMorring — 2007-11-13 01:13:17Z

My name is Sheila Morring and my grandmother Ruby Head Walker is the grandaughter of Eramus & Rachael Osgatharp. I have several old photos of the Osgatharp family & Benton Head family. I am looking for old family photos or records of birth, death, cemetery headstones. In 1996 I went to the McGlasson cemetery in Brimestone Clay Co. where some of the Osgatharps / Heads are buried. If anyone out there is willing to share information. Looking forward to hearing from all of you researchers.
Sheila Morring
Mesquite TX

Jane Osgatharp b. abt 1799 in NC

OzHumphrey — 2007-05-10 00:38:28Z

Sorry for my numberous postings. I've just been able to hit the census records hard this week. I found a Jane Osgatharp born about 1799 in NC on the 1850 Census for Jackson Co. TN. Does anyone know anything about her? Could she be a daughter to Richard Osgatharp? She is also on the 1830 and 1840 Census. These records give very little information. On the 1830 her name is listed as Ogelthorp, but I think it's just an incorrect original. In 1830 she is living right next to John Ogelthorp (I believe it is John Osgatharp son of Richard). They are not living next to each other in the 1840 census. John is living relatively near some Carlisle's. Just curious if anyone else has any information on her. Sorry I didn't have the 1840 for Jane downloaded.
Thanks,
Linda

Gilbert Benton Osgatharp on the Census

OzHumphrey — 2007-05-07 18:37:15Z

I've been getting my sources together on Ancestry.com and realized I haven't found Gilbert Benton on the 1870 or 1880 Census records. Can anyone help me with this?
Thanks,
Linda

Re: G. Benton Osgatharpe

OzHumphrey — 2007-05-07 13:25:18Z

Jim, If you're still out there, would I be able to get a copy of Susan Viola's picture? Do you also have a photo of Jobe Price? Suvie is my great great grandmother, but Jobe is also my great great great uncle. Jobe's neice Cora Price married my great grandfather John Harrison Osgatharp. John and Cora's children said when they were little it was confusing. They didn't understand why it was grandma and uncle Jobe and not grandma and grandpa.

Thanks, Linda

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

CarolWilkerson12 — 2007-03-25 00:54:55Z

The name for my GGGrm might be right, who knows? LOL She was listed in several census years with different first names. Good thing she married "Mr. Boring" John Smith, eh?

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

donnybro — 2007-03-25 00:38:24Z

I put too many pl's in my address it's donnybro@simplynet.net

I have a little book done by our side of the Osgatharp's and in it, your Grandmother is incorrectly listed as Almira Edna.
Then it says no more information. So it's neat to run across her family. I can tell you have done a lot of research. Mine has just been word of mouth and a few documents passed down.

My Grandmother kept up with her cousins all of her life even though after marrying my Grandpa she moved to Canada. I will have to look through her trunk and see if I can find anything from your family. She kept all kinds of letters.

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

CarolWilkerson12 — 2007-03-24 21:19:29Z

I just tried to email you at the address you gave and got it back. Hope you get this post then. My email address is

webduckie AT yahoo DOT com

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

CarolWilkerson12 — 2007-03-24 21:03:13Z

Erasmus G. Osgatharp was my GG-Granduncle. His sister Almarinda was my GG-Grandmother. I descend through Harvey Lawson Smith and Mary Elizabeth Pentecost through their daughter Minnie Caroline Smith who married Will K. Yates in 1917. Will and Minnie's first child was William Gale Yates b. 1920 d. 1996 was my father.

Descendants of Almarinda Helen Osgathorpe

1 OSGATHORPE, Almarinda Helen Source1: 1850 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source2: 1860 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source3: 1870 Jackson County, TN Federal Census b: 1839 in TN d: in Jackson, TN
.. +SMITH, John W. Source1: 1850 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source2: 1860 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source3: 1870 Jackson County, TN Federal Census b: 1836 in Jackson County, TN m: Abt. 1849 d: 1907 in Jackson County, TN
.. 2 SMITH, Lemuel Jasper Source1: 1850 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source2: 1860 Jackson County, TN Federal Census, Source3: 1870 Jackson County, TN Federal Census b: 08 Feb 1850 in Tennessee d: 31 Oct 1920 in Jackson County, Tennessee
...... +HALL, Emily Source: BRADY, Christine Smith b: Jul 1855 in Virginia d: 1928 in Jackson County, Tennessee
.. 2 SMITH, John Savage Speed H. b: 1852 d: 1907 in Celina, Clay, TN
...... +GORDON, Mary Elizabeth b: 23 Aug 1856 m: 23 Sep 1874
.. 2 SMITH, Harvey Lawson Source: "Obituary for Mary Elizabeth Pentecost Smith YATES" b: 02 Jan 1855 in Clay Co., TN d: 29 Mar 1899 in West Plains, Howell, MO
...... +PENTECOST, Mary Elizabeth Source: Marriage Certificate for James YATES and Mrs. Mary SMITH b: 20 Jun 1854 in KY m: 05 Aug 1874 in TN d: 09 Jun 1935 in West Plains, Howell, MO
.. 2 SUSIE b: 1862
...... +CROWDER, Richard Bedford b: 1856
.. 2 SMITH, William Harrison b: 1867 in TN d: in TN
...... +WILLIAMS, Sallie Source: 1930 United States Federal Census b: 1866 in TN m: Abt. 1894 in TN d: Aft. 1930 in TN

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

donnybro — 2007-03-24 17:02:00Z

Erasmus Gaw Ogatharp is was my grandmother's grandfather. My Grandmother's name was Pearly Etta Head Lidbury. So that would make him my great great grandfather. We have his story written by her hand if your interested. We must be some kind of cousins. Sylvia Lidbury Boatwright is my mother. Just wondering where you are in the family line.

Debbie Brock
donnybro@simplplnet.net

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

donnybro — 2007-03-24 16:58:07Z

Richard Ogatharp is also my grandmother's great great grandfather. My Grandmother's name was Pearly Etta Head Lidbury. Just interested to know which line you are from.

Debbie Brock
donnybro@simplplnet.net

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

donnybro — 2007-03-24 16:57:10Z

Richard Ogatharp is also my grandmother's great great grandfather. My Grandmother's name was Pearly Etta Head Lidbury. Just interested to know which line you are from.

Debbie Brock

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

webduck — 2007-02-27 07:39:37Z

Hi! Thanks for posting about your desendancy from Erasmas G. . I am always happy to find a "new" Osgatharp cousin (no matter which version of the spelling. :-D ). webduckie AT yahoo.com

Re: Richard OSGATHARP

bald8191 — 2007-02-27 04:04:23Z

I too, am a descendant of Richard Osgatharp. My great-great Grandfather was Erasmus Gaw Osgatharp and my grandfather, Joe, was born and raised in Cumberland County Tennessee. We live in AR but we visit my Great-Aunt in TN, occasionally. I will ask my grandfather if he has any pictures of other Osgatharps. Thanks for the post!

Re: G. Benton Osgathorpe

CarolWilkerson12 — 2006-06-25 01:37:20Z

I just sent you an invitation to my Yates MyFamily site that also includes some Osgatharp, etc. info. Welcome!!

Re: G. Benton Osgathorpe

2006-06-24 20:22:32Z

Thank you for looking Carol :-). I'll bet you've got a lot of information that I'd like to get copies of!

I descend from John Harrison who married Cora Price.
Linda

Re: G. Benton Osgathorpe

CarolWilkerson12 — 2006-06-24 18:05:18Z

I am the administrator for the message board. Yes, I am still here, but have not been working on this family line for a while. I will check my records and see what I have for documentation of the family.

BTW, I descend from Almarinda (Helen) Osgatharp, who married John Smith.

G. Benton Osgathorpe

2006-06-23 14:20:07Z

It's been a long time since anyone posted so hopefully you Osgathorpe users are still out there. Does anyone have any documentation on G. Benton's first name? My father says he doesn't think George is the correct name. His father, G. Benton's grandson, had told him it was Gilbert and that he had an cousin Gilbert (son of Erasmus Gaw). I've seen G. Benton's name written on the census as Gilbert, but I haven't seen the documentation for George. Can anyone help with this?

Also, I just wanted to add a bit of information from my father. I haven't seen any trees with an approximate death date for G. Benton (I could have missed some though). He died before his last son William A. was born. So somewhere between 1890 and 1891depending on the month William A. was born. My father is certain of this because G. Benton's son John H. (my father's grandfather) died before his last son, Johnny, was born, so they would tell the story about this coincindence. BTW, John H. died of tuberculosis.

Another note, my father says Harrison's middle name was Mitchell (not sure on the spelling).

Re: Osguthorpe

cliveledger1 — 2006-06-10 19:17:44Z

Hi all, my new OSGUTHORPE family tree is now online at

cliveledger@rogers.com/Osguthorpe/index.html" target="_blank">http://www.geocities.com/cliveledger@rogers.com/Osguthorpe/i...

Give it a look and let me know if there is a connection.

Re: Osguthorpe

2006-05-02 22:07:31Z

Hi Clive,

You probably know this already, but there is an osgathorpe road in sheffield which once led to an osgathorpe hall. I went to a junior school in Sheffield called whiteways junior school. I rember one of my teachers telling me of how the hall had stood on the site that the school was built on.

I am very interested to know what you have found out about the name in the sheffield region as my grandfather Charles William Osguthorpe was born in Sheffield in 1897.

I think my great grandfather was also born in sheffield, but I will have to find out the details from my relatives and get back to you on that.

Cheers,
Steve.

Osgathorpe and Carlisle

EagleO — 2005-02-12 22:45:55Z

Who were Susan Carlisle (from Tenn, married to John Osgathorpe) offspring?

BTW, Elmo Osgathorpe of Hermitage passed away this Saturday. He is survived by me (his son), his daughter Claris Grace, and his grandchildren.

reply to shelley carlisle

EagleO — 2005-02-12 22:45:55Z

My ancester was John Osgathorpe that married susannah carlisle. I know carlisle's that live in this area but they have no connection to Susannah Carlisle. Can you give me more information about your husband's connection to Susannah?

Surname origin for Osgathorpe, etc.

CarolWilkerson12 — 2004-03-19 18:54:16Z

I found this in Ancestry recently in the Dictionary of Welsh/English surnames.

Re: Osgathorpe and Carlisle

CarolWilkerson12 — 2004-03-03 23:30:59Z

Re: G. Benton Osgatharpe

kath2002 — 2003-08-05 22:02:45Z

Jim,
I spoke with Nancy, she said she had copies made, however,
did not send them. She is going to look for them and will be
sending them. She said to apologize for her. Also, to tell
you her son craig is now the father of triplets.
Thank you so much for the information. By the way we can
pinpoint Gandma Seviegh to between 1924 and 1926. She
died a short time after my Grandmother Nannie came to
Toledo. Do you have any information on the date of her
husband Jobe Price died? Stay in touch.
Kathleen

Re: G. Benton Osgatharpe

2003-07-22 23:12:57Z

Kathleen,
I am one of the cousins from Oklahoma that met Nancy while in Tennessee. Susan Viola Cherry Osgatharpe died in Tulsa, (Dawson) Oklahoma probably between 1920 and 1930. We recieved some money from relatives in Tennesse and with it combined, we put a marker on her grave. She is buried in Duck Creek Cemetary in Catoosa, Oklahoma next to her daughter Mary Verda which was my great grandmother. We will definitely have to correspond. When we met Nancy, she said she would send us a copy of a book about the Osgatharpe family but we havent heard anything from her and it has been a few years. If you speak to her, tell her we are still waiting. (ha ha). I hope to hear from you soon.

Richard OSGATHARP