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PATERSON Ross J - Vietnam Wall section 5E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-04-28 13:10:32Z

PATERSON Ross J - Vietnam Wall section 5E

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Re: Whatever happened to the Clan Pheadirean (PATERSONs)??

timothypatterson2012 — 2012-04-25 07:59:13Z

i am the 7th generation of patterson in australia and my sons the 8th

Re: Whatever happened to the Clan Pheadirean (PATERSONs)??

timothypatterson2012 — 2012-04-25 07:54:52Z

my name is timothy patterson. im a patterson from australia. i can track our family back to antrim ireland in the 1800's where my great great great great great grandfather joseph patterson lived and married his wife ann thompson both of scotish irish desendance . and i have the imagration records showing his son samuel patterson moving to australia with his wife sussannah mcmullen 7motnhs pregnant coming from ireland on the ship "PEARL" in 1841. i am trying to find out acurately whether we were part of clan Pheadirean or clan maclaren both of which claim the patterson name as part of their clan. anyone with imformation on this please contact me as this has become my obsession. starting from just wanting to continue our family tree to wanting to find the history of our family and our true clan

Re: Gertrude A Fairhurst nee Paterson, Liverpool, England.

1_alanj1 — 2012-04-24 21:31:28Z

My Grandfather was Albert, my father was Leslie, the first son of Gertrude was Stanley who died young, then there was Albert (deceased), Irene, Archiblald, Leslie (died at 52), Alfred then the youngest was also named Stanley who also died young, I live in Australia and would be glad to hear from you, Alan

Re: Dr Alexander Paterson

pottersimon2000 — 2012-04-19 17:34:51Z

His daughter Jennie Gordon Paterson married (aged 19) 15th November 1869 in Calcutta my relative Edward Dalgliesh (1842-1920) Indigo Planter of Tirhoot, Bengal.

They were living in Goldalming, Surrey, England in the 1911 census, and her place of birth is given as Bahia, Brazil.

They had six children, two of whom died young.

Simon

David PATERSON & Margaret EDWARDS

lsolsen — 2012-03-22 09:54:16Z

David PATERSON (aka PATTERSON) (b 1844) married Margaret EDWARDS (b 1852) in Edzell, Angus, Scotland before emigrating to America in 1872. By 1877 they were living in Arapahoe County, south of Byers, then onto a ranch about ten miles northeast of Deer Trail. David became a successful sheep & beef farmer.
They had 6 children, David, James, Ollie, Jessie, Margaret & Libbie (not necessarily in that order).
I would like to make contact with any of their descendants.

Mary Helen Paterson born 1885 in Leith, Midlothian

jonever — 2012-03-09 15:53:54Z

Looking for the above person after the 1901 Scottish census. She was the daughter of Adam Paterson (1846 - 1891)and Mary Pryde (1842 - 1924) and the family lived in Leith, Midlothian. Unable to find on 1911 census so she may have married before then but unable to find a marriage either.

Re: Patersons !

Grant_Lorne — 2012-03-06 07:32:10Z

Hi
Just surfing the web working on ancesters
and came across your message.
Can't help you but - my father was born and
raised at Wester Culfoich in the 1890's. Came to Canada
1908.
A small world !
Good Luck in your quest.
Lorne Grant

William Paterson and Anna Mae Marshal Paterson

grubabecca — 2012-03-03 17:07:25Z

William was born March 17, 1807 in Scotland and his wife, Anna Mae Marshal, was either born in New York or Ireland in 1938. Her first child of eight was Marguerite born in New York in 1855 who later married Stephen Buhrer, Mayor of Cleveland. William is my 2nd Great Grandfather and I would like to find out who his parents were and if he had siblings. Also, I work in New York City now and would like to find out where Anna Mae lived in New York state and about her family.

Re: Paterson Family

DNALLICOCK — 2012-02-13 11:53:17Z

Information on the Paterson's Family
The Paterson's Family history is the only complete documented history and trace of my early ancestor across the Atlantic to their original Country. Courtesy of researcher John Platt
John Dagleish Paterson's son,David was my three times great grandfather.

John Dagleish Paterson or JDP came from Dumfries-shire, where the Patersons had lived for generations in the Parish of Tynron. In 1691 they were tenants at Clonrae, Craignie, Craigturow and Ford:
William Paterson 1691-1743, was tenant in Aird, close to Ford. In the 18 Century (the Barony of Airds in Tynron had been acquired by the 2nd.Duke of Queensbury from Sir Robert Grierson of Lag in 1708.
His son William (1733-1810) who married Jean Dagleish (1740-1824), moved before 1793 to Craireknowe, a farm in the neighboring Parish of Durisdeer. All were buried at Tynron. John Dagleish Paterson of Christianburg (1775-1842) was William and Jean's third son
Their surviving second son, William Paterson (1774-1855) inherited the tenancy of Craireknowe. The fourth son, John (1808-1886), farmed at Craigdarroch, a neighbour of Craireknowe, near Sanquhar, and it was at Craigdarroch that the later Patersons of Demerara often stayed when they visited Scotland.
Arrival in Demerara:
It has been said that John Dagleish Paterson, John Payne Blount, and John Spencer were three British Naval Officers who decided to remain in Guiana after the British occupied the country in the early 1800s. Their arrival is a subject up for debate, since it is still unclear what really happened.
Their arrival together seems unlikely. In a letter to Governor Light in 1840, JDP said he had been in Demerara for 33 years (since 1807) His son, Dr. William Paterson, said JDP had been a resident at Christianburg “for thirty years” (since 1812) at the time of his death.
Blount was reported as leaving the colony with three servants in May/June 1815.
The Spencer family story has three Naval Officers arriving in Demerara in 1820 (is a bit off) (The Manly Binning Story), has Spencer appointed as Postholder for the Demerara River in 1824 and had been previously Postholder for the Boerashire Creek.
Note: JD Paterson two sons name John.
JDP had two families: His first partner was Elizabeth Hill (1778-1860) by whom he had five children;
James (1812-1842) was 30 yrs old when he died.
William (1814- before 1900) graduated a degree in medicine at the University of Glasgow, practiced medicine in British Guiana for a while, and then returned to Scotland to open a Baths Establishment in Rothesay, Isle of Bute.
John was known as Brandy John (1816- 1898). He married Sarah DeNeiuenkerk, granddaughter of Cloot DeNeiuenkerk. His picture is preserved on pg.36 and obituary on pg.43 of this book.
David (1818- 1847) married Nancy Allicock (Nancy born in 1820). She was believed to be 2 years old when R.F. Allicock died in 1822. David died by drowning in the Demerary River off Watooka. He had a daughter named Catherine Jane Paterson by Nancy. Later, she married Francis (Frank) Fiedtkou (1820 born) George born abt.1822 died Feb. 2, 1855 in Glasgow
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Elizabeth Hill died 25th April 1860 at age 82. Born abt. 1778, Elizabeth was sister to Mary Hill who was married Cloot Denieunkirk of Watooka. Her other sister was Jane Hill, who was the mother of Jane Mckell. Jane Hill/Mckell born abt.1739- died Oct.18, 1835 in Christianburg (British Guiana colonial Index).
In 1823, John D. Paterson advertised his intention to leave the colony at some point after May 29 with 3 children and 1 servant. In the same month, it was advertised that Jane Mckell, niece of Elizabeth Hill, left the Colony after June 2. The Brig “Essequibo” left Georgetown for Glasgow at the end of June, which was announced in the Royal Gazette May 1823.
In 1823-24 JD Paterson married Jane Mckell, the daughter of Jane Hill, in Scotland.
JD Paterson returned to Demerara in 1826.
In his Will (deeds Registry 101 of 1842, proved 27th Oct., 1842) J. D. Paterson said that he and Jane Mckell, a young lady of the Upper Demerara, have been married “by Contract Antenuptial.” That marriage produced seven children:
Thomas (c1824-88) died at his Middle St. home and was taken by the Colonial Steamer “Sprostons Wood” for interment at Christianburg: Royal Gazette:
John Dagleish II (c1826-66) died in Dalbeattie December 22, 1866 at age 40 and was buried at Tynron, married Grace Edger Lewis (c died Feb.22nd. 1917); both buried Tynron:
Jane Dagleish (c1827 died Nov. 26th 1853) tomb stone is at Christianburg. , unmarried:
Alfred (alive in 1853) born 1830 married Ann Paterson (1825-1871) -Died after1857
Christina Lucas (1832-73) died at Langlands, Dumfries, and 17 July 1873 aged 41: buried Tynron: Dumfries & Galloway Courier.
Christina married William Knox (1810-66) at St. Philips Church, Georgetown, in 1865 (he died at his America Street home July 26. 1866 and was buried in Georgetown: The Colonist:
Catherine born abt.1834 married Butt
Mary Elizabeth born abt.1837- married Blount
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On Saturday 22nd October 1842, John Dagleish Paterson {the first} died at his residence at Christianburg: at age 67 and was interred in the family plot. His tomb along with several children is still there.
Jane {Mckell} Paterson (1801-1889), the wife of JDP, lived to be 88 years old and was alive in 1870: Henry Kirke Twenty-Five Years in British Guiana and Guyana Guardian 1993. Jane (Mckell) Paterson grave lies next to husband John Dagleish Paterson at Christianburg.

Links with other Families:
1819......Deeds reg: JDP TS Bremner and John Mansfield among witnesses to Will of John Allicock dated December 14th. 1819{John Allicock died December 3rd. 1820.}
1823.....Royal Gazette: JDP as executor to Will R.F. Allicock, deceased, was involved in claims on Allicock's estate.
1832..... Local Guide:
JDP {John Dagleish Paterson} listed as owning Amelias Ward, Mamacabra & Mora EBD and Christianburg WBD; Estate of John Allicock owned Wismar WBD. Harrower & Donvin owned Nerva Sawmill WBD;
Thomas Hubbard owned Auror WBD.
Nancy Allicock owned Noitgedacht EBD
Blount & Brotherson owned Arakwa EBD
All these Plantations were Timber Estates.
1839......No.46, Demerara River, Estate of John Allicock, deceased, 401 acres, for Sale in August by JDP, administrator of estate of John Allicock
Information provided by John Platt-Nov. 2001 also Royal Gazette and British Guiana Colonial Index.
Other notes:
John Allicock died December 3rd. 1820 Will proved at Georgetown 1820.
JDP and John Mansfield were Witnesses to the Will.

Christina Joanna Van Lange (widow of the late Frederick Van Lange) died at Christianburg 2nd August, 1840 left a will and codicil dated 8th April, 1840 and 10th July, 1840, respectively JDP was executor.
John Mansfield was married to Mary Elizabeth Allicock the daughter of R.F. Allicock, died 31st. August 1857 at Christianburg: had two sons James and William Mansfield JDP II was executor. John Mansfield’s children were with Franky Tyrell- See family tree.
William, Christina, Catherine, Mary Elizabeth, Thomas and Alfred, children of JDP and Jane Mckell, were still living. (Booker memorandum of October 1858 re Saw Mill)

There is evidence in some accounts that Thomas Paterson may have gone to Australia in the 1850s, but he obviously returned and lived in Georgetown until his death.
In 1861 Dr. William Paterson expressed satisfaction “that those was in some employment when you last heard of him.” {Letter dated June 13th. 1861, Rothesay to George Booker)
Elizabeth Hill's Will was proved in Georgetown 1860, the will deposited 2nd May, 1860.

John Dagleish Paterson’s Will is preserved in the Guyana’s Supreme Court Registry and throws light on the life and character of John Dagleish Paterson.
The first provision provided an annuity of 300 pounds for life to his wife Jane.
The second provision stated “In consequence of the present depreciation of the Property in the colony and the little prospect of any advance in the value thereof or in the revival of its commerce” Paterson willed that the establishment should be carried on by his wife for at least two years before the property can be sold.
To Elizabeth Hill he left the dwelling house and other buildings at Amelias ward, furniture, silver plate, bed, table linen and other plenishing. The cattle thereon, one hundred acre of land and also an annuity for life were provided in the will for her.
The older five Paterson’s children by Elizabeth had become of age and were educated already. One of the sons William was a medical Doctor. The Will made provision for the education of the Paterson seven younger children apart of a few bequests that the twelve children to “share and share alike”.
One of the executors of the will was George Booker who with his brother Josias founded the firm which became the very successful Bookers bros. McConnell and Co.

This sawmill would not be sold for another 52 years and was a very successful and profitable business. The area of Wismar, Christianburg, and the large area between Wismar and The Essequibo River along with the Sawmill business was sold to the British Government for the large sum of 97,000 dollars in 1894 accordingly to the author of Run Softly Demerara. The 1993 Guyana Guardian reported the sum was actually about 350.000 dollars. So lucrative was the business that within twelve years of government operation it recouped the entire purchase price of the land. For unknown reasons this very profitable business was closed shortly after.

Re: Paterson - England / Australia

christineadamson011 — 2012-02-12 02:21:32Z

I have information on the Paterson family from Liverpool NSW. Please e-mail me (christineadamson01@hotmail.com) or call 0403988389, hoping to hear from you soon >>

Paterson - Glasgow Scotland

bballard74 — 2012-01-27 13:16:46Z

Hello,

Looking for anyone that may connect to this group and willing to share data.

Brian B.

1 - ROBERT GARDNER PATERSON
DOB 1844
MARRIAGE OCT 29 1865 CALTON GLASGOW, LANARK SCOTLAND
SPOUSE MARGARET ALLAN
DOB 1841/DOD 1901
CHILDREN (PATERSON)
1A ROBERT ALLAN - DOB DEC 12 1867 CALTON, GLASGOW
1B MARY HELEN - DOB JUNE 1 1869 CALTON GLASGOW
1C ANNIE GAIRDNER - DOB OCT 4 1870 CALTON GLASGOW
1D JOHN ALLAN - DOB DEC 19 1871 CALTON GLASGOW
1E MAGGIE ALLAN - DOB NOV 5 1873 CALTON GLASGOW
1F AMELIA ALLAN - DOB 1876/DOD 1949
1G ANDREW ALLAN - DOB 0CT 22 1866 CALTON GLASGOW

Re: Patersons of Grenada, West Indies

vicptaylor — 2012-01-19 23:56:59Z

I am researching my son-in-laws family tree.

Re reference to your husband's g g grandfather George Paterson who went to Trinidad. Was it George Paterson 3rd of Grenada married to Marion Pickerton?

Re: Patersons of Grenada, West Indies

vicptaylor — 2012-01-03 17:29:16Z

I am trying to find the parents of Madeleine L Paterson (c.1898) who may have been born in Grenada, West Indies. She married a Bertie Keates and had children & grandchildren in Trinidad.

Re: RE_POST ----- Searching for John Paterson

bobmclaren1 — 2012-01-01 21:30:05Z

Helena,

I did some searching and found some information -- the marriage record for John Paterson and Elizabeth Martin, the birth records for their sons James and Peter Paterson. I also found the 1803 birth record for John Paterson. If you email me at bobmclaren@earthlink.net, I can send these images to you. I had to zip the four files to get them down to under 10 Mb each. Also, if you have a living male Paterson relative, he would be a great candidate for the Clan MacLaren Surname DNA Project (Paterson is a Clan surname). If you are interested, let me know and I will send you information on this.

Yours aye,

Bob McLaren
Genealogist, Clan MacLaren Society (based in Scotland)
Chairman, Genealogy Committee, Clan MacLaren Society of North America
Administrator, Clan MacLaren Surname DNA Project (Worldwide)

RE_POST ----- Searching for John Paterson

hgullotti — 2012-01-01 09:05:21Z

Dear fellow researchers,

Reposting an old post incase someone out there is new on here and can help me.

I've hit a brickwall and hope someone out there can assist me in where to find answers or if some nice person hold films/records perhaps they could look up the information for me. I would be ever so grateful.

Searching for: John Paterson born around 1803 Fife ( Kinghorn? ) John married Elizabeth Martin in Kinghorn March, 1826. they had 4 children James ( my line), Margaret,Grace and Peter. Three of John and Elizabeth's children emigrated to Aust, then onto NZ. I have Information on them from NZ, but cannot find any information ANYWHERE on their FATHER John. I do not know if he died, ran off never to be found, or emigrated, he's a mystery. His wife Elizabeth died in Edinburgh 1888. Still no mention of John.

Any genealogy sherlocks who can figure this one out or steer me in the right direction?

Thanking you in advance,
Helena

Re: PATERSON Charles and Elizabeth (nee LAING) of Angus, Scotland

leejacobsen_1 — 2012-01-01 08:09:59Z

My pleasure, Lindsay - glad I could help. Good luck with your family research.
Lee

Re: Paterson Family Scotland to Australia

klouise007 — 2012-01-01 07:02:14Z

Thanks verymuch bob. I have emailed you.

Re: PATERSON Charles and Elizabeth (nee LAING) of Angus, Scotland

lsolsen — 2012-01-01 02:58:05Z

Dear Lee. Thank you so very much for your help. The information you have provided me with is of immense value to me. His sister Agnes "living on a sheep farm in New Zealand" was my Great Grandmother. Thank you once again. Lindsay

Re: Paterson Family Scotland to Australia

bobmclaren1 — 2011-12-31 20:50:34Z

I have located three records that get you past John Paterson (1852-1918). First is his death record that shous his father (John Paterson) and his mother (Sarah Kerr). Second is his birth record that show the same, plus also shows the birth of two sisters, Elizabeth and Marion. Third is the 1851 Census that show John Paterson (father) with wife Sarah and two daughters, Elizabeth and Marion. This also gives the birthplace of John Paterson (the father). These are from the ScotlandsPeople website. You should be able to go there and get many more records. I would suggest tracking John Paterson (the father) in the census records until he disappears, then look for his death record. With the information on his death record, you should be able to find his birth record.

If you want images of these records, contact me at bobmclaren@earthlink.net and give me your email address.

Also, could you send me a copy of your Paterson genealogy for the Clan files? If you have it in a computer genealogy program, then a GEDCOM would be great. Otherwise, any format will work.

Do you have any living male Paterson relatives? If so, one of them would be a great candidate for the Clan MacLaren Surname DNA Project (Paterson is a Clan name). Let me know and I will send you the information.

Happy New Year!

Yours aye,

Bob McLaren
Genealogist, Clan MacLaren Society (based in Scotland)
Chairman, Genealogy Committee, Clan MacLaren Society of North America
Administrator, Clan MacLaren Surname DNA Project (Worldwide)
Member, Association of Professional Genealogists
Member, Genealogical Speakers Guild

Paterson Family Scotland to Australia

klouise007 — 2011-12-31 12:48:03Z

I am currently trying to research my family of paterson' s from ayshire county in scotland.

john paterson (1852-1918) married jane mitchell (1857-1924)

one of their children William (my great grandpa) came to australia, enlisted in the army, went to war (ww1)returned wounded, returned to scotland to marry maggie lammie(in dumfries), and return to northern nsw australia to start farming and start a family.

there is also some association with chapel hill farm.

i cant seem to find anything on my family past john and jane.

any help would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

AKiwiLass — 2011-12-12 00:36:19Z

That is my great gran and I think her daughter from her first marriage. I just need my great granddads family in scotland.
When was Ellen Jane born. It must have been late in the year as my gran was born 22/1/1877. I dont have either Robina or Ellens dates of birth. Thats why i did not add them to the tree.

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

AKiwiLass — 2011-12-12 00:28:47Z

Christina is my grandmother.
I found out that Isabella my great gran had been married 3 times.
I think there might have been a boy & a girl from the first marriage to John Farquharson. But no childern to her 3 husband.
I have her death aqnd marriage certs. Plus Robert Paterson her 2nd hubby. Dont have the other ones.
But still can not find Roberts family in scotland

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

shanenz31 — 2011-12-11 04:16:42Z

hi again

You may want to look into the following:
1868 Isabella Beattie married John Farquaharson and 1876 Isabella Farquharson married Robert Paterson. There is a Robert Paterson and Isabella Paterson buried West Tairi Cemetery. Robert by himself and Isabella with a elizabeth Farquaharson spinster.

Regards.

Jill

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

shanenz31 — 2011-12-11 03:52:07Z

Hi,

My great grand parents were also named Robert Paterson and Isabella. When I look at births I no that Ellen Jane and Robina are my relatives so the Christina born 1877 could be yours.

Regards

Jill

My brief Paterson History

paterson_clan — 2011-11-28 05:14:17Z

Robert Paterson (my GG Grandfather) born 28 Sep 1820 in Paisley, Renfrewshire, Scotland married Eleanor Hornsby on 29 Dec 1846 in Adelaide, SA, Australia. They had 13 children namely Jessie Elizabeth, Robert, William, Joseph John, Kate Elenor, John James, James Henry, David Edward, Frank Albert (my G Grandfather who was the sole survivor of the triplets), (other 2 of the triplets were Hugh, Hugh Francis), Nellie Hornsby, Margaret Smith.
Frank Albert Paterson was on born 22 Nov 1863 in Green Tree Hill, SA, Australia and married Lucy Pocock on 22 Feb 1887 in Adelaide, SA, Aust. They had 4 children namely Henry Robert Levy, Robert Smith, Eleanor Hornsby and Frank Albert.
Robert Smith (my Grandfather) was born on 23 Aug 1890 in Hamley Bridge, SA, Aust. Robert had 3 wives , he married Margaret Mary Loney in 1912 and she died in child birth on 28 Jul 1915. Second marriage to Susan Mabel Ikin on 17 Mar 1916 and she died in child birth on 8 Nov 1917. Third marriage to Winnifred Ellis Rosewarne born 13 Aug 1896 and they were married on 13 Aug 1919. They had 2 children namely Ross Keith and Dean Negus.

Ross Keith (my father) was born in 1925 and married Junesse Smith born 1925, in 1950. They had 4 children Robert P, David A, Philip S and James Malcolm (me)

James Malcolm born 1959 married Margaret Kathryn Roberts (born Leahy in 1960) in 1980 and had 2 children Prudence K born in 1984 and Sarah M born in 1986. Marriage ended in divorce. Prudence and Sarah were adopted by Neil Turner in 1992 after their mother Margaret remarried.

Prudence K had Lucas T in 2005 in Adelaide, SA, Australia. Her partner’s surname was Hayley.
James Malcolm’s 2nd marriage is to Marie A Paterson (daughter of Dean Negus above – 1st cousins) in 1992 in the Clayton Wesley Church, SA, Aust. Marie was born in 1964. They have 3 children Grace, Charles and Annie.

If any of the above information matches your history I would really appreciate hearing from you. Thanks for your help.

Patersons from Maybole, Ayrshire, Scotland

JoniRabena — 2011-11-26 23:33:29Z

Hi,

Looking for anyone who may know where this Mary Paterson ended up in the United States.

John David Paterson and Mary Welsh married about 1904 in Maybole, Ayrshire, Scotland. They had the following children, only one of which immigrated from Scotland to the United States:

John David Paterson, b. 1905, Glasgow
David Paterson
George Paterson m. Mary Burns Fisher, immigrated to Canada
Jean Paterson
Mary Paterson, immigrated to the United States
Henry Paterson, killed in the First World War

I would imagine all of the children were born between 1901 and 1912. And Mary probably was at least 20 when she left Scotland. We have no information for her.

I am hoping someone who has a Mary Paterson in their family history with the above family members, will contact me at joni@mcburney.ca.

Thanks,

Joni

John Paterson/Margaret Macknight Monument from Sweetheart Abbey

clddbd — 2011-11-25 23:44:32Z

In July I was visiting Sweetheart Abbey in New Abbey Scotland and took a picture of this monument. I hope someone finds it meaningful to their family

Re: My brief Paterson History

dejavusam86 — 2011-11-22 04:33:18Z

http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/welcome.aspx

This website is great website to find birth, death, and marriage records in Scotland. It gives you photos of the document or you can request a copy of it. It does cost so do as many detailed searches as possible before paying to see.

PATERSONS OF MAYBOLE, AYRSHIRE, SCOTLAND

JoniRabena — 2011-11-18 18:35:07Z

Hello,

I am helping a friend research her Family Tree. She had information that a John David Paterson, born 1945 in Scotland, parents were John David Paterson, born and married Jean McDonald McLaren Currie, born 1920, in Scotland (Maybole area).

This John David Paterson's father was David Paterson, born about 1881 in Maybole, married a Mary Welsh. This was a brick wall for me to help her as I could not find a David Paterson in Maybole who married a Mary Welsh. But I did find a John Paterson in Maybole who married a Mary Welsh.

Looking back on the family names carried down from generation to generation, I realized that his David Paterson was more than likely John David Paterson who married Mary Welsh and his father was likely John David Paterson who married Janet Stephenson.

I know there are at least two family trees on ancestry that have this family in their tree, and I am wondering if any of them have these John Patersons as John D. or John David Patersons on records?

These more recent Patersons also went by John David Paterson and were called either John or David depending on their wishes.

It would just be nice to have a record stating that the older John Patersons (from 1843 on) could also be John David Paterson!

Joni
joni@mcburney.ca

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

paterson_clan — 2011-11-18 05:07:48Z

Progress for you. Good luck

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

AKiwiLass — 2011-11-18 03:54:20Z

No bells at all. I have found out that my Robert was born 22 sept 1842 in Fyvie. In 1851 he was in New deer. But i'm unable to find his parents .
Or if he had any brothers or sisters.

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

bobmclaren1 — 2011-11-18 02:46:38Z

Yes, you have to be a male Paterson to do the DNA test to see what Patersons you match. I sent the email you are responding to to James Paterson. These rootsweb messages are very confusing in it is difficult to tell who the message to for.

Yours aye,

Bob McLaren

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

AKiwiLass — 2011-11-18 01:55:16Z

I'm not a Patterson. Its just one of my family names. And dont you have to be male for a DNA link for surnmaes

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

bobmclaren1 — 2011-11-17 21:44:30Z

James,

Since you are interested in your Paterson genealogy, have you considered a DNA test. Such testing is proving to be very useful in getting past brickwalls. Since Paterson is one of the surnames of Clan MacLaren, I invite you to join the Clan MacLaren Surname DNA Project. The project is with Family Tree DNA (http://www.familytreedna.com). Now is a good time to place an order since Family Tree DNA is running a sale. If you want more information, please contact me at bobmclaren@earthlink.net. If you want to place the order, go to http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=T20437
and do so. I recommend the 67-marker test as being the best value for the money.

Yours aye,

Bob McLaren
Genealogist, Clan MacLaren Society (based in Scotland)
Chairman, Genealogy Committee, Clan MacLaren Society of North America
Administrator, Clan MacLaren Surname DNA Project (Worldwide)
Member, Association of Professional Genealogists
Member, Genealogical Speakers Guild

Re: My brief Paterson History

paterson_clan — 2011-11-17 20:33:40Z

The first Robert arrived in Adelaide in 1839 and never returned, the second Robert wasn't born until about 1842.
Confusing yes, weird even. Love to know why they used the same name. Cheers James

Re: My brief Paterson History

Patsy_Paterson — 2011-11-17 15:34:33Z

Interested in your Robert Paterson. I recently found a card for a Detroit, USA border crossing that listed my husband's great-grandfather William. On it, he stated that he was born in Tullibody Clackmannshire, Scotland in 1832. He emigrated to Canada in 1854. I realize that this may be a long shot that he might be connected to your Robert but would like to explore the possibilities. I did not know where in Scotland he was from until I saw this card. Do not know a lot about Scottish research and will have to get on trying to figure this out. Any pointers for me?

Re: My brief Paterson History

linsfam — 2011-11-17 14:04:21Z

Are you sure Robert & Mary had two children named Robert? It's not unusual to give 2 children the same name, but usually only when the first dies young. Your first Robert lived a full life. It must have been confusing having two Roberts plus the father, Robert, in the same house.

Re: Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

paterson_clan — 2011-11-17 07:01:38Z

Hi
I have a Robert Paterson born abt 1842 in Cathcart Renfrewshire Scotland but nothing else known on him. He did have other siblings namely Robert 1822 - 1906, William Charles 1835 -1894, John abt 1840 - 1917 and an unknown child.

I am posting a brief history now, does any of that ring any bells.

Cheers

James Paterson

Robert Paterson Scotland / New Zealand

AKiwiLass — 2011-10-13 23:26:30Z

Hi all.
I hope someone can help me.
My great grandad was Robert Paterson
He died 2 April 1878 in St Kilda New Zealand.
His wife was Isabella nee Beattie.
I know they were married in NZ and he would have been about 33.
But as to his birth all I have is the year 1842 and that he came from Scotland.
Any help at all would be great.
I had hope that his death cert would give me more But it did not.
On his death cert it says died from 'brain disease,6 weeks.
Cheers Sandi

Re: Searching for Jeannie Paterson

alanpat — 2011-10-04 11:05:44Z

Joan.

There were 2 Jeanie Patersons born 1885-1886 in Cambusnethan Parish. I.e. under 20 when John was born so good candidates for passing the child on. One had father named John. One thing might help. Can you tell me exactly where your John was born. I.e. street address?

Alan

Re: Searching for Jeannie Paterson

JoanEAndrew — 2011-10-04 10:31:31Z

Thanks for the quick reply Alan. Yes I know about Alexander & His first wife too but, like you haven't found a connection between the two Paterson families yet. John was my sister-in-law's grandad and his marriage gives Alexander Paterson & Elizabeth Dudgeon as his parents, but when I did a little research I discovered that Alexander died 8 years before he was born! This in turn led me to the discovery of Jeannie as his mother and the realisation that he was adopted. Despite my best efforts (and those of friends too) I haven't been able to find any references to Jeannie. She is proving rather elusive - hence the post. I'll be grateful for any information you should uncover along the way. All the best Joan

Re: Searching for Jeannie Paterson

alanpat — 2011-10-04 07:40:24Z

Hello Joan.

I don't have any direct knowledge (yet) of Jeannie, but what I do have is Elizabeth Dudgeon. Her husband, Alexander Paterson, had as first wife my ggg-aunt Elizabeth Paterson (yes, her maiden name). As far as I have researched, I have found no connection between these 2 Paterson lines, but your Jeannie is highly likely to belong to one or the other.

You can reach me on alan(at)paterson.ch

Alan

Searching for Jeannie Paterson

JoanEAndrew — 2011-10-03 22:22:39Z

I am searching for Jeannie Paterson, dressmaker, who gave birth to John Paterson (illegitimate) on 18 March 1905 at Scoularhall, Carluke, Lanarkshire, Scotland. (No father's name given in the birth record). John was later adopted by Elizabeth Paterson nee Dudgeon, and shows as her 'adopted son' on the 1911 census, but I can find no trace of his birth mother, Jeannie Paterson, either before or after John's birth. Please can anyone help me with any information? Thank-you.
Joan

Re: PATERSON Charles and Elizabeth (nee LAING) of Angus, Scotland

leejacobsen_1 — 2011-09-21 00:38:49Z

Hi Lindsay

I'm not a descendant (I was hunting for a different Paterson), but I found this site which has Charles & Elizabeth's son David's photo & biographical record:

http://www.memoriallibrary.com/CO/1898DenverPB/pages/pbrd106...
DAVID PATTERSON, a well-known and prosperous ranchman of Deer Trail, Arapahoe County, owns the largest ranch in this vicinity, and is a self-made man, who has worked his own way since he was twenty years of age. He was born in Forfar, Scotland, May 8, 1844. His father, Charles Patterson, a farmer by occupation, was born in 1805 in the same vicinity, but five miles from where the son was born. The mother, Elizabeth (Laing) Patterson, was also born near there in 1815, and is still living. Of their ten children David is the only son living, one son having died in Scotland at about forty-five years of age. Of the daughters, Jean is the widow of Archibald Campbell, of Scotland; Elizabeth is married and lives in New Zealand; Diana is married and living in Edinburgh; Isabelle is the wife of Joseph Belford, of Broughty Ferry, Scotland; Agnes is married and living on a sheep ranch in New Zealand; Mary and Margaret are deceased.

Mr. Patterson was educated in the public schools of his native country, and remained there until he was twenty years old, when he went to Argentine Republic, South America, and for five years was in the stock business in that country. He then returned to Scotland and there remained until 1872, when he came to the United States, locating first, for a time, in Lincoln, Neb., then settled in Huerfano County, Colo., in 1874. In the spring of 1877 he moved to Arapahoe County, south of Byers, and in 1878 located on the ranch where he now lives, about ten miles northeast of Deer Trail. He is extensively engaged in the sheep and cattle business, and all the improvements on the place have been made under his personal supervision. He also owns property in Denver.

Before leaving Scotland, in 1872, Mr. Patterson married Miss Margaret Edwards, whose father was a farmer there. She died in Denver. Their three sons and three daughters are as follows: David, Jr., who is on a stock farm in Montana; James, Ollie, Jessie, Margaret and Libbie, at home. Mr. Patterson is a member of the Twenty-third avenue Presbyterian Church of Denver. In politics he is a strong Republican. For years he has been a member of the school board. While still in Scotland he joined the lodge of Masons.

Regards
Lee

Re: Paterson

adl44 — 2011-09-19 16:08:12Z

Hello Judy
Thanks for your prompt reply!
Yes you are correct re the Murray family tree.
I am really interested in Henry Elcock Paterson. It is difficult I know to find out things when people have long gone.
I would like to know more about Henry and Mary Elisa Rae.
Adele

Re: Paterson

LAandJA — 2011-09-19 08:08:50Z

I was just looking on my Ancestry.com pages and noticed a Murray Tree. Would that be you? JuneMurray29? If this is you, then you have as much information that I would have. If it is not you, and you do not have a membership, I would be very happy to try to contact them and pass along a message for you.
Judy Anderson
South Surrey, B.C. Canada
lorneanderson@shaw.ca

Paterson

adl44 — 2011-09-18 18:32:20Z

Looking for information about Henry Elcock Paterson. He married Mary Elisa Rae( maiden name Birchwood) in 1920
Henry Elcock died in 1971 in Dunfermline.
Mary Elisa was my maternal grandmother and I have only recently found out that she had remarried.

Re: Whatever happened to the Clan Pheadirean (PATERSONs)??

Mjgm84 — 2011-09-12 10:56:47Z

I would be most interested to know where my Paterson's origins are. My Paterson ancestors are all from the county of Fife:

My 3rd great grandmother was May Paterson b. 1831.

My 4th great grandfather was Hugh Paterson b. 1787.

My 5th great grandfather was David Paterson who married in 1784 Katharine Paterson.

Re: Whatever happened to the Clan Pheadirean (PATERSONs)??

pendomatic — 2011-09-11 03:59:03Z

I was quite curious about The origins of my wife's ancestry as we are both of Scottish Irish descent (she is a Patterson of KY). I've researched the origins for a day now and have found much controversy. No less then four Scottish clans claim the name and its derivatives. Also because It's such a common name it's nearly impossible to find a true source.

I hate to cause confusion, but The clan system is rather unofficail and was even more confused by the successive ruling systems implemented atop of and migrated around it.

All Pattersons are not Pheadireans
In fact Patterson is listed surname in England during the time of the Pheadirean clan in Scotland.

I will now post all of the info on the clan I've acquired. The first is from a man looking to clarify for himself and others what Pattersons came from where, and is asking for all documentation you have, in turn will give you what he has and, is compiling all info into a database for all.
http://www.clanmaclarenna.org/contacts.htm

Some of the information doubles but the form is changed, some have sources so I've included them. the info is separated by website (you can easily find my sources online by copy and pasting large portions into google), I've added headings to some of the more dense sections.

Hope this helps, I know it's pretty thick but I think it's very informative on the search if not a'bit of a let down.

Who Are Your Pattersons?
Written by Robert D. (Bob) McLaren
Who are the PATTERSONs? Frank Adam, in his book The Clans, Septs & Regiments of the Scottish Highlands (Johnston & Bacon, Stirling, Scotland, Eighth Edition, 1984, First Published, 1908), includes in Clan MacLAREN septs:

PATERSON, MacPATRICK. -- In bonds of manrent given by the MacLARENs to the CAMPBELLs of Glenurchy in 1559, and also in 1573, occurs the name of "MacPATRICK". PATERSON is but a Lowland rendering of the same name. MacPHATER and MacFEAT are equated with PATERSON.

Alan McNie, in Clan MacLaren Cascade Publishing Company, Jedburgh, Scotland, 1986) includes under associated names of Clan MacLAREN:

PAT(T)ERSON; MacFATER, MacFEAT, MacPATRICK and MacPHATER, Gaelic variables of PAT(T)ERSON. Many PAT(T)ERSONs with early origins in MacLAREN county are considered associated names. The name PAT(T)ERSON is one of the most frequently occurring surnames in Scotland.

Note that McNie does not use the term sept. I understand that sept is really a misnomer when applied to the Scots (it is an Irish term). What are normally called the septs of a clan consist of a variety of surnames -- some spelling variations of the clan name (such as Law in our case), some other families that sought the protection of a larger clan, and some that actually derived in some fashion from the parent surname. According to Margaret MacLaren (mother of our Clan Chief), the latter is the case for PATTERSON. In The MacLarens, A History of Clan Labhran (Lowe and Brydone Ltd., Thetford, Norfolk, Great Britain, Second Edition, 1976) she discusses the Septs of Clan Labhran:

The second group includes the largest and best known sept of the clan the PAT(T)ERSON, with the Gaelic variations, MacFATER, MacFEAT, MacPATRICK and MacPHATER. The earliest reference to a PATERSON is to Duncan PATERSON who was implicated with other MacLARENs in the killing of the Vicar of Balquhidder in 1532. He may be the Duncan, son of Patrik M'EWYN V'LAURANE mentioned in the Bond of Manrent of 1559 but both Duncan and Patrick were favourite MacLAREN names and it is not possible to make a positive identification. There were of course PATERSONs from other parts of Scotland who were not MacLARENs but those from Balquhidder and Strathearn belong to Clan Labhran.

So the origin of the PATTERSON surname in Clan MacLAREN could be from descendants of this Patrick MacLAREN (PATTERSON means son of Patrick). Or the PATTERSON surname could have risen a number of times from various Patricks in Clan MacLAREN. In any case, the PATTERSON surname is long associated with Clan MacLAREN.

Margaret MacLaren makes an interesting point in the paragraph above. She notes that PATTERSON is not necessarily a MacLAREN surname. Philip D. Smith, in Tartan For Me! (Heritage Books, Inc., Bowie, Maryland, 1992, Expanded Fifth Edition), shows PAT(T)ERSON associated with four other clans -- LAMONT, MacAULAY, CAMPBELL, and FARQUHARSON. In these cases, the surname most likely also arose from a son of a Patrick. Frank Adam does give some explanation for the name PATTERSON in three of these four other clans. For Clan LAMONT, Adam states:

MacPATRICK, PATRICK . -- The above are aliases of the LAMONTs, descended from Baron MacPATRICK, who was the ancestor of the LAMONTs of Cowstone.

For Clan MacAULAY, Adam writes:

MacPHEDRON, MacPHEIDIRAN. -- By both Buchanan the historian, and MacIan, the MacPHEIDIRANs are alluded to as a sept of the MacAULAYs of Ardincaple, Dunbartonshire.

For Clan CAMPBELL, Adam has:

MacPHEDRAN. -- The name of a small Argyllshire sept, whose ancestor, Dominic MacFEDERAN, was, by the 1st Lord CAMPBELL of Lochow, granted the lands of Port Sonochan on Loch Awe, along with the office of "porter and hereditary ferrier" (i.e. "Ferryman").

Adam, in his discussion of the septs of Clan FARQUHARSON, does not show any PATTERSON, or any surname that could be translated as PATTERSON. Therefore, I don't know where Philip Smith derived the association of PATTERSON with Clan FARQUHARSON. Finally, given the frequency of the appearance of the PATTERSON surname, I suspect that this surname also arose at other times and places in Scotland.

The PAT(T)ERSON/MacPATRICK surname has a number of spelling variants, as can be seen from the discussion above. (Remember, not too long ago spelling was a creative art, especially when an English speaker tried to write down Gaelic names!) Smith does list a number of such variants associated with Clan MacLAREN. These are:

MacFADE MacPHAIT
MacFAIT MacPHAT(T)ER
MacFAT(T)ER PATRICK
MacFATE PEATRIE
MacFEAT PEATRY
MacFEET PETERSON
MacPEETERS PETRIE
MacPETRIE PETRY
MacPETRY

(I'm sure that if we sat down and concentrated we could come up with more possible variants.) While most of these names are variants of PAT(T)ERSON/MacPATRICK, in at least one case, the name does not have to derive from PATTERSON. The surname PETERSON can be a spelling variant of PATERSON; however, PETERSON also means son of Peter and is a common Germanic surname. I would expect the latter explanation as the origin of most PETERSONs.

So much for the question, who are the PATTERSONs? Now for the second question -- "I'm a PATTERSON (or PATRICK, or MacFEAT, or ...) and want to know of what clan are my PATTERSONs?" Because of the widespread occurrence of the surname, this is not an easy question to answer. Ideally, you would have to trace back your ancestors to their original territory in Scotland and then find out what clan was in that area (if indeed your PATTERSONs were associated with a clan). This may prove to be a very difficult, or impossible, task. Clan MacLAREN, however, welcomes all PATTERSONs.

The Clan MacLaren Society of North America has a genealogy committee (see the Society Genealogy Brochure for more details). I am the PATTERSON/
MacPATRICK surname genealogist for Clan MacLAREN. However, I am not just tracking those PATTERSONs who are clearly identified as being MacLARENs (since this is so difficult to do). As the PATTERSON surname genealogist for Clan MacLAREN, I will track all PATTERSONs. I am currently building two PATTERSON databases -- PATTERSON marriages and PATTERSON immigrants. I also have acquired the Social Security Master Death List.

This Death List is quite an interesting resource. There are over 36,000 PATTERSONs and 1,300 PATERSONs listed, giving social security number, date of birth and date of death. Although social security is relativity new, some of the births precede social security by many decades. The listings I obtained have 98 PAT(T)ERSONs born between 1850 and 1859. Some of these individuals lived quite long lives. For example, Idesta PATTERSON, born 21 January 1857, died December 1968 -- an age of 111 years. Idesta's social security number was issued in California and she most likely died in California. Delbert PATTERSON, born 30 March 1856, died December 1967, aged 111 years. Delbert's social security number is one of those issued to railroad workers.

I intend to continue to amass information on PATTERSONs. The more information I collect, the more I will be able to help PATTERSON searchers trace their genealogy. I do have an extensive genealogy library and am now collecting any and all PATTERSON information that I can find. Hopefully, this effort will reach critical mass some time in the future and I will be able to help many PATTERSON searchers.

Let me conclude by asking for your help. If you have PATTERSON/MacPATRICK information (or MacFEAT, MacFATER, MacPHATER, etc.), please send me a copy. Let me know about your family. If you are a genealogist, send your family group sheets, descendant charts, pedigree charts, as well as copies of your source records. (Send me your questions and dead ends also -- I'll see what I can do to help.) With your cooperation, I'll be able to built a PATTERSON/MacPATRICK database that will be of help to all. Paterson, or Patterson, is the Scottish version of 'Patrick's son' or Patrickson', and is a very common surname in Scotland.

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Clan Pheadirean's (Paterson) native lands were traditionally on Loch Fyne's north side beside Loch Awe where many people by this name could be found.
Patterdale in Westmoreland (now modern day Cumbria, north west England) was once called Patrickdale, meaning 'the dale or valley of Patrick', and was once part of the ancient Scottish kingdom of Strathclyde.
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Scottish forms of "Patrick's son" or "Patrickson,
and one of the commonest of Scottish surnames.
The native home of the Clan Pheadirean(Paterson's)
was on the north side of Lochfyne where they
were formerly numerous (Carmicheal, Carmina
Gadelica, II, pg.332). See under Macpatrick.
Patterdale in Westmoreland was formerly
Patrickdale, "the dale or valley of Patrick."

Written instances of Patterson & Dirivitives

William Patrison and John Patonson,
'gentillmen,' witnesses in Aberdeen, 1446(REA., I,
pg. 245). Donald Patyrson was admitted burgess
of Aberdeen, 1494(NSCM., 1, p. 37). Ade Patersoun
is mentioned in 1499 (RAA., II, 398), and in 1524
letters were issued against Patrick Patersoune
for defrauding the king's custom(Irvan, I, pg. 35).
Robert Patersoun was capitane of ane wereschip
of Dundee." 1544(CRA., pg. 205). And John
Patersoune held land in Glasgow, 1533
(Protocols, I). Fyndlay Patersoun had a tack of
the lands of Owar Elrik from the Abbey of Cupar,
1557 (Cupar-Angus, II pg. 170-171). And in the
same year John Patersoun custumar of Cupar,
and David Petirsoun rendered to Exchequer the
accounts of that burgh (ER., XIX, pg. 80). John
Patersoune was burgess of Northberwyk, 1562
(CMN., 85). George Patersoun, a monk in the
monastery of Culross, 1569 (Laing, 844), and
Alexander Patersone, burgess of Aberdeen, 1594
(CRA., pg. 104). William Paterson (1658-1719)
was author of the ill-fated DArien Scheme and
originator of the plan of the bank of England.
Patirsone, 1497. Ade Patrisoun had a precept
of remission in 1536 ( RSS., II, 2033). James
Patirsone, sheriff-depute of Innernes, 1530, may
be James Patirsoun, provost there, 1573 (OPS.,
II, p. 666-669). One of the Farguharson
genealogies says that "the Patersons in the North"
are descended from Patrick, grandson of
Ferquhard from whom the clan Farquharson
take their name (Farguharsons of Invercauld, pg. 4)

Patrick Surname and St. Patrick

Patrick, G. Patruig, Ir. Padraig, O. Ir. Patricc, from
Latin Patricius, 'a patrician.' The early Latin life
of the saint also gives Cothraige, the name by which
S. Patrick was known during the term of his slavery in
Ireland, but this is simply a Gaelicized form of
Pathruig (with c for Latino-British p). S. Patrick's
full name was probably Patricius magonus Sucatus.
Tirechan, the saint's earliest biographer, assigns him
a fourth name, Cothirthiacus, which, however, is simply
a Latinization of the Cothraige already mentioned. Other
early forms of this name, Qatrige and Quadriga,
suggested to Tirechan and others a derivation from
quattuor, Latin for 'four:' "Cothirthiacus quia seruiuit
uii[iu] domibus magorum "(i.e. "because he was a slave
in the house of the four magicians"); "many were they
whom he served, Cothraige (servant) of a fourfold
household" (so the O. Ir. hymn Genair Patricc). The
Tripartite Life(pg. 17) states that he received the
name Magonus from S. Germanus, and that of Patricius
from Pope Celestine, but this is merely monkish
tradition. The late Sir John Rhys believed the name
Magonus to be a derivation from Goidelic magus (whence
Irish mug, servant), meaning perhaps originally a 'boy,'
but is as likely to be the Roman cognomen Magonus.
Muirchu, author of the first formal biography of the
saint, says he was also named Sochet (the Sucatus above
mentioned): "Patricius qui et Sochet uocabator." The
hymn "Genair Patraicc," attributed to S. Fiacc, says:
"Sucat his name it was said," and the Tripartite Life
adds this was "his name from his parents" (loc. cit.).
A note on the hymn, quoted in the last named work
explains this name as "Deus belli uel Fortis belli."
The name is etymologically the same as obsolete Welsh
hygad, 'warlike.'

Forms of Patrick

In modern Scottish Gaelic the name Patrick is found in four forms: (1)Patruig, with t and c unaspirated, but reduced to the corresponding mediae. (2)Paruig for Pathruig, in which the t has been aspirated and consequently lost and c made into medial g. (3)Para, a pet or curtailed form of the last. (4)Padair or Patair, the common form of Patrick in Arran and Kintyre. This last form enters into combination with cill, a church, in Cill-Phadair, the Gaelic name of Kilpatrick. The name has thus become confused in popular use with Peter and is so Englished. (Per contra, Ceann+phadruig is the Gaelic of Peterhead in Duncan Macintyre's Oran na gasaid (Songs, ed. Calder, pg. 392)> "Pedair as a personal
Gaelic name is hardly, if at all known out of print" (Celt. Rev., II, pg. 35).

Peter and Patrick Interchangable

In Scotland not only is Patrick frequently called by the endearing diminutive Peter,but Peter is often called Patrick. In fact, it has been said, Patrick is the "Sunday name," Peter the everyday one. In the discussion in the House of Lords on the
breadalbane peerage claims(1867) the counsel alluding to a person who had been mentioned in the course of evidence called him Captain Patrick Campbell. The Chancellor said the captain's name was not Patrick but Peter. His Lordship was assured they were convertible terms. Lord Robertson(1794-1855), who was christened Patrick, was invariably called Peter(nicknamed "Peter o' the Painch" by Sir Walter Scott because of his rotundity: Maidment Pasquils, pg. 222-223); and Patrick Fraser Tytler, the historian, was known to his immediate relatives as "Peter" (Burgon, Life, pg.16).

Patrick was one of the most popular names in the west of Scotland in pre-Reformation times, and in Ireland only became a popular forename after 1600, due probably to its introduction by the Scots settlers in Ulster.
As a surname it is common in Ayrshire, and the old family of that name appear to have been connected with Kilwinning Abbey. Patrick, subprior of Durham, became the abbot if Dunfermline, 1201(Annals, pg. 333). Patricks of Dunminning, county Antrim, are of Scottish extraction, descendants of the Ayrshire family. John Patric was a notary in 1429(Robertson, Ayr Fam., II, pg. 267). James Patrick, heir of Hew Patrick of
Thornedyke his father, 1658 (Retours, Ayr, 501). Robert William Cochran-Patrick(1842-1897), a distinguished numismatist, was under-secretary for Scotland. Comes(earl) Patric was a charter witness, c. 1211(Kelso, 403). With gille- it gives the common Gaelic personal name Gillepatrick, hence Macphatrick, and Paterson.

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The following taken from "Family Names and Their Stories"
by S. Baring-Gould., M.A.

PATERSON or PATRICKSON simply means 'son of Patrick', and as such has been a favourite Christian name throughout Scotland since pre-Reformation times.

Surprisingly, in Ireland it only became popular as a forename after 1600, probably due to its introduction by the Scots settlers in Ulster. As a surname Paterson belongs to no one district, and appears first in old Scottish records in 1446 when William Patrison and John Patonson appear as witnesses in Aberdeen.

By the 16th century a dynasty of Patersons were landholders in Fife, and of this line Hew Paterson became a writer in Edinburgh before purchasing the Barony of Bannockburn, near Stirling. His son, also Hugh, became the first Baronet of a line of Jacobite sympathisers who entertained Prince Charlie following the battle of Falkirk in the '45 Rising. Here the Prince met Clementina Walkinshaw, whose mother was the sister of the previous Baronet. She followed him to France in 1751 and bore him a child, Charlotte, 'Countess of Albany', but whether or not they married remains conjecture. William Paterson (1658-1719) was author of the ill-fated Darien Scheme to settle Panama and was originator of the plan for the Bank of England.

Paterson is a Lowland rendering of MacPatrick, a name occurring in bonds of manrent given by the Maclarens of Balquidder to the Campbells of Glenorchy in the 16th century and it is probably for this reason that the MacPatricks and Patersons are claimed as a sept of MacLaren. Likewise, some MacPatricks, Patersons, or Patricks, not related to those of MacLaren stock, are said to have been aliases of Lamonts, descended from Baron MacPatrick, ancestor of the Lamonts of Cowstone. The former claim that Patersons are also a sept of Clan Farquharson will not stand examination and such is now largely discredited.

Another source of Paterson may also have been MacPhedran or MacFetridge (son of Peter or Patrick), and reference is made to a 'Clan Pheadirean' (Patersons) whose home was on the north side of Lochfyne, but they are said to be a sept of the MacAulays of Ardincaple. The MacFatridges in Nova Scotia are equated to Patersons.

Those considering themselves members of the clans MacLaren or Lamont, may wear their tartans and display the relevant crest and motto of the present Chief. Loyalty must be based on available genealogical or geographical evidence but in the absence of any such definite evidence the MacLaren connection is the strongest.

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CAMPBELL SEPTS AND ASSOCIATED NAMES

(The following information on the Septs of the Clan Campbell has been extracted from Volume I of The History of the Clan Campbell by Alastair Lorne Campbell of Airds.) The name 'sept' is given to members of a branch of a clan who do not share its name, although they may or may not be of the same blood.

Within a clan, following the Highland fashion of designating people by the names of their fathers, grandfathers, and sometimes more remote ancestors, other names could be used for certain family groups. Hence in Clan Campbell we have the MacTavish ('Son of Thomas' in Gaelic) sept, descended from a Thomas Campbell, the MacConnochie ('Son of Duncan', in Gaelic) sept, descended from a Duncan Campbell and early offshoots like the MacArthurs and the MacIvers who descend from the chiefly stock before the adoption of the name Campbell.

Other family kindreds who had no blood connection but who might be nativi or 'native men', former inhabitants of lands taken over by a new chief might also choose to follow him and to become septs of his clan.

The word Clann in Gaelic need signify no more than 'family' or 'children' and there were hundreds of such groups who made no pretence to set up as major powers on their own but who followed the local chief and became members of his clan.

Sometimes these smaller kindreds were widely spread and their branches could follow different Chiefs. And very often the same name could come from a whole range of unrelated sources particularly in the case of Mac-names, or patronymics as they are called, which mean 'Son of'.

The 19c enthusiasm for clans, fostered for their own reasons both by the tartan manufacturers and the Clan Societies, resulted in the attribution of as many names as possible to particular clans as septs - sadly only too often with ludicrous results. The idea that all Millers should belong to Clan Macfarlane or all Taylors to Clan Cameron is clearly untenable; this is not to say that the names were not used by members of those clans on occasion but they are both work-names of trades carried on in practically every community across English-speaking Britain. Nor is the suggestion that all sons of Harry, Gib, Thomas or Arthur, to take four names as examples, should descend from the same person of that particular name any more tenable. The same point needs to be made about names which derive from a place name and where the original form included 'de' or 'of'' and which would be used by anyone, related or not, who came from the place in question.

But every effort was made, often on the slimmest of reasons, to attach as many names as possible to the well-known clans. Some of these claims are based on nothing more than a lively imagination, others depend entirely on one single recorded instance of a connection, this being judged enough to assign all holders of the name to one clan or another.

Our list of septs is by no means perfect; there are some names whose inclusion would seem to be due more to this sept-hunting enthusiasm than to historical accuracy and there are many names which loyally followed the Campbell Chiefs for centuries which have not been included. Quite who was responsible for the compilation of this list or when, is unknown.

But rather than encourage still further confusion, our Chief has said that he does not wish to make any alterations to the 'official' list of Campbell sept names which follows.

Rather than do that, he said some years ago that he was prepared to accept as members of Clan Campbell all those of Scottish descent who were prepared to acknowledge him as their Chief. This very much follows what actually happened in past times when 'broken men' - those without a chief - attached themselves by his permission to a chief and became his men.

As will be seen different versions of the same name which have a common origin are grouped together. Names appear here which also appear under other clans; this is quite proper since, as already explained - in many cases there were quite different, unrelated ancestors in different parts of the country who gave their name to their descendants. If, in modern times, people with a sept name which appears under more than one clan, wish to show allegiance to a clan and have no idea from which area they originate, then they should chose one of the clans which is said to include their name. It is quite wrong to try to 'belong' to more than one clan.

Several septs have tartans assigned to them. This makes absolutely no difference to the status of the sept concerned and in no way implies that the name is a clan on its own. In cases where a sept quite properly appears under the name of more than one clan and is known to derive from more than one, unconnected source, the attribution of the tartan is actually misleading and those of the sept name should wear the tartan of the parent clan.

Spelling was an uncertain art and there is no significance in the various forms of spelling the same name. Nor is any significance to be taken from the various spellings of Mac, Mc, M', Mak or whatever.

MACPHEDRAN

The name derives from the Gaelic form of Paterson - MacPheaderain - or ‘Son of little Peter’. The original of the name is said to have been a MacAulay, according to Buchanan of Auchmar.

The family long held the lands of Sonachan on Loch Awe together with the lucrative office of ferrymen over Loch Awe from Portsonachan on the east side to Taychreggan on the west, the portership extending ‘between Teatle Water and the rivulet called Beochlych on the east bank and the rivulet called Ganevan and the Water of Aw on the west side’. (83) (Argyll Archives, 1098.)

Clan Pheadirean's (Paterson) native lands were traditionally on Loch Fyne's north side beside Loch Awe where many people by this name could be found.
Patterdale in Westmoreland (now modern day Cumbria, north west England) was once called Patrickdale, meaning 'the dale or valley of Patrick', and was once part of the ancient Scottish kingdom of Strathclyde.

The reason for this grant is given in two legends; in one, it was for MacPhederan's service in ferrying Robert the Bruce back to Scotland from his refuge on Rathlin Island; the other says it was for rescuing the son of the Campbell Chief whose galley capsized on Loch Awe when he nearly drowned. It is not impossible for both incidents to have been based on fact.

In 1439 (84) (Black has made a slip and gives the date as 1349.) ‘Domenicus M'Federan’ had confirmation from Sir Duncan Campbell of Lochawe of the 1 merkland of Sonachan and the ferry. In 1488 at Sonachan a notarial transcript (official copy) was made for ‘Morich McFedren’ of this charter. In 1501, ‘Gillemory M'Fedane’ received a charter of confirmation from the 2nd Earl of Argyll. In 1590, ‘Duncan Glas McFederan’ resigned the lands and office of Porter to the 7th Earl for a regrant in favour of his son ‘Gillemory’. The precept of sasine on this charter mentions that the family first had a grant of these from Sir Duncan Campbell of Lochawe in 1439 ‘as their evidents gave proof’. (85) (A/T.)

This at first sight may support the tradition that it was saving Sir Duncan's son that earned them their position although it is quite possible that this was the first written charter in the MacPhederans' possession.

The MacPhederans quarrelled bitterly with their neighbours and had a bloody skirmish with them at the burn between Upper Sonachan and Portsonachan. Eventually in 1619, the lands were handed over by ‘Duncan Glas McPhedren’ to Ewin M'Corquodale of Phantilands acting as attorney for ‘Duncan Campbell M'Dowell V'Inryda’ - Duncan Campbell, son of Dougald son of the Knight [of Cawdor] - in implementation of a contract of sale made by his grandson ‘Donald M'Gilmore V'Phedran’. (86) (A/T.)

The family is said to have moved to Lochfyneside and to have become mariners.

Another family of MacFederans, possibly of the same kindred were famous as smiths in Benderloch. They appear in the famous quatrain

Bogha dh'iubhar Easragain,
Ite firein Locha Treig,
Ceir Bhuidhe Bhaile nan gaillean,
Smeoirn o'n cheard MacPheiderean. Bow of the yew of Easragan,
Feather of the eagle of Loch Treig,
The yellow wax of Baille-nan-gaillean,
Arrowhead from the craftsman MacPheidirean.

The MacPhederans had their forge at Ferlochan in Benderloch, near Barcaldine House Their swords were said to be of outstanding finish and quality. The Burn of the Easragan is near Ardchattan Priory, further up Loch Etive. (87) (Carmichael, Carmina Gaedelica ii, 359.)

It may well be one of this kindred who is buried further south down at Keills in Knapdale where a tombstone of 14th-15th century dated is inscribed in Latin

Hic jacet Cormacus MacPhaterin Here lies Cormac MacPhedran

Both Keills and the Church at Kilmory on the other side of Loch Sween are particularly noted for the concentration of wealthy craftsmen buried there. They would appear to have originated there when Castle Sween was the base of the powerful MacSween Lords and to have remained in the area after the castle itself had changed hands. A smith would have been an essential part of such a community and Cormac would seem to be a very likely candidate. (88) (Bannerman and Steer, Monumental Sculpture, 146.)

In Aberdeen, in 1446, William Patrison and John Patonson were 'gentillmen' witnesses.
Donald Patyrson, in 1494, was made burgess of Aberdeen, and letters were issued against Patrick Patersoune in 1524 for defrauding the king's customs.
A Robert Patersoun was recoded in 1544 as being 'captaine of ane were schip of Dundee', and there was a John Patersoune who reported owned land in Glasgow during the year of 1553.
Fyndlay Patersoune, in 1557, had a tack of the lands of Owar Elrick from Cupar Abbey.
Also in 1557, John Patersoun, custumar of Cupar, and David Petirsoun rendered to the Exchequer the burgh of Cupar's accounts.
Burgess of Northberwyk (North Berwick) in 1562 was a John Patersoune, and a George was a monk in 1569 at Culross monastery in Fife.
The sheriff-depute of Inverness in 1530, James Patirsone, may be the same person as the James Patirsoun who was provost of Inverness, forty-three years later, in 1573.
One of the most famous Patersons in history is Sir William Paterson (April, 1658 - 22 January, 1719). Born in Tinwald in Dunfries and Galloway, he was the founder of the Bank of England in 1694, influential in the creation of the Bank of Scotland the following year, and was the man who conceived the ill-fated Darien Scheme.

According to one of the genealogies by the Farquharsons, "the Patersons in the North" are descendants of Patrick, the grandson of Ferquhard, and from whom the Farquharson clan take their name.

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The descendants of Farquhar, son of the third Shaw of Rothiemurchus, were known as Farquharson and settled in Aberdeenshire. The Clan is a member of the Clan Chattan Confederation.

Donald, son of Farquhar, married Isobel Stewart, the heiress of Invercauld. Their son, Findlay Mor, became the first Farquharson of Invercauld. He fell at the Battle of Pinkie (1547) where he was the Royal Standard bearer.

There developed many other branches of Farquharsons, notably the Farquharsons of Monaltrie and Inverey who followed Montrose and fought under Charles II at Worcester in 1651 where Charles was defeated.

Later that century, "Bonnie Dundee" had the Farquharsons' support for his forces -- including John, third Laird of Inverey, known as the Black Colonel. He is remembered in ballad and legend, and for his daring escape from the Hanoverians when he rode his horse up the dangerously sheer, craggy side of the Pass of Ballater.

Rising of 1745
During the rising of 1745, the chief of MacKintosh was Angus, who was an officer in the Black Watch, fighting against the Jacobites. His wife, however, was Anne, daughter of Farquharson of Invercauld, and she rallied the Clan MacKintosh to fight under Clan Chattan for the Jacobite cause. When Angus was captured at the Battle of Prestonpans, he was sent home to his wife. Anne greeted him with the words, "Your servant, Captain". He famously retorted, "Your servant, Colonel". From then on she has en known as Colonel Anne. After later saving Bonnie Prince Charlie from capture at one point, Colonel Anne was imprisoned at Inverness for six weeks. At Cullodon, in 1746, some three hundred clansmen led by Farquharson of Monaltrie were in the front lines on that fateful day.

Since 1949 the clan chief has been Captain Alwyne Compton Farquharson of Invercauld. His estate is famous for hosting the world famous Braemar Highland Gathering, a favorite with royalty since Queen Victoria's reign.