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PAYNE Richard N - Vietnam Wall section 9E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-21 12:56:41Z

PAYNE Richard N - Vietnam Wall section 9E

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,291 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

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Elizabeth Ann Payne b Wiveliscombe, Somerset England

SusanMerkley — 2012-05-11 17:11:42Z

Looking for Elizabeth Ann Payne b. circa 1856 to Henry Payne and probably Elizabeth Sealey (or spelling variations) She married John Hill Sept 1879 in St. James Parish Church Milton Portsea in the County of Southhampton. He was a gunner in the Royal Military . He was born circa 1856 in Carnbroe Lanarkshire Scotland.

His father was Hugh Hill of Wishaw, Scotland.
Witnesses at the wedding were Albert Allen and I believe, Elizabeth's aunt Patience Beatrice Allen nee Sealey. Albert was also in the military..Royal Marines in 1871.

If anyone is connected to the above people...would love to hear from you and exchange research notes. Thanks.
Sue

Looking for Payne family relatives

woolgerk61 — 2012-05-09 20:24:54Z

Hello,
I am looking for anyone related to My Grandmother,
Dorothy May Payne,
born:1909,Twickenham,Middlesex.
bapt:1910,Brentford,Middlesex .
Died:1954 from Cancer,buried in Twickenham, Middlesex.
Would love to find any one if not related then may of known her or here family,as i would love to get a photo of her as no family member has one, and would like to see what she looked like,
Many Thanks for looking at my post and your time,
Regards Keith.

Joseph Reynolds b abt 1819 in Kentucky m Amanda Gatrell b abt 1822

TommyJReynolds — 2012-05-04 02:48:37Z

I'm trying to identify the parents and birth date/location of Joseph Reynolds, born about 1819 in Kentucky.

Here is what I know. Joseph was married to Amanda Gatrell in Russell County, KY, by (pastor?) Wm. A. Cooper, on 21 April 1842. Amanda was born about 1822. Her parents were Dennis Gatrell (b abt 1875) and Agnes Payne (b abt 1789 to Philemon Payne and Rachel Wilson). Joseph and Amanda had nine children:
(1) James Tipton b abt 1842 probably in Wayne Co or Russell Co, KY. He m Loduska Leathers in AR in 1872. Then m Mary Elizabeth Heaton in 1878 in AR.
(2) Sabra Ann b abt 1845 probably in Wayne Co or Russell Co, KY. She m William Calvin Curnutt abt 1868 in Arkansas
(3) Sarah Ann b abt 1846 probably in Wayne Co or Russell Co, KY. She m Samuel Jackson Cowan abt 1871 in Arkansas
(4) Martin Taylor b abt 1848 probably in Wayne Co or Russell Co, KY. He m Rebecca Collins abt 1878 in Texas
(5) Artimecy Elizabeth b abt 1850 in Polk Co, MO. She m Samuel Jackson Cowan abt 1880 in Missouri. By that time Samuel was the widower of her sister, Sarah Ann.
(6) Lucinda A b abt 1853 in Polk Co, MO.
(7) Mary A b abt 1855 in Polk Co, MO.
(8) Joseph O b abt 1859 in Carroll Co, AR.
(9) Franklin Davenport b 1862 in Harrison, Carroll Co, AR. He m Margaret Elizabeth Collins (sister of Rebecca Collins, above) in 1882 in Denton Co, TX.

The family moved from Russell or Wayne County, KY, to Polk County, MO, about 1847-8. They moved about the same time as a few other close families from Wayne County, KY: McKinneys, Higginbothams, Dowells and Simpsons. Each of these families were related to Amanda through her mother, Agnes Payne. More specifically, males from each of these families married sisters of Agnes in the 1820s in Wayne Co, KY.

Joseph, Amanda, and several children are listed in the 1850 census in Polk Co. Some land patents list a Joseph Reynolds as a patentee in Polk Co. The family later moved to NW Arkansas and are listed in Carroll Co in the 1860 census. It appears that Joseph fought for the 15th Arkansas Northwest Confederate Regiment. Contrary to death info provided for Joseph on many ancestry.com trees, the Civil war records I've found don't indicate that he died, or even served in the battle of Vicksburg. Some civil war records indicate that a Joseph Reynolds from the 15th Arkansas NW Regiment lived until the end of the war.

Amanda remarried Henry Holt in Boone Co, AR, in 1870. She died in 1904 and is buried in Perryman Cemetery in Montague Co, TX, along with her sons James Tipton Reynolds and Martin Taylor Reynolds.

I'd be glad to be in touch with any other researcher looking at this family and any associated families. Of particular interest is any information on Joseph's origins, including birth location and/or parents. I'm glad to share the additional info that I have so please don't hesitate to reach me.

Thanks in advance!
Tommy Reynolds

Re: William M Payne Jr.. born abt 1875

bigskygrandma — 2012-05-02 14:39:51Z

Do you have any information on where your William Payne might have been born or where he grew up/married? The area of the country would be more helpful.

Joseph Byron Payne

tk6231 — 2012-05-01 21:25:06Z

Hi all,

I am looking for a Joseph Byron Payne that was born Between sept of 1909 and Sept of 1910 in Winona, Minnesota. I need his date of birth and his parents names and siblings if possible. Anyone here have this payne in their family tree? He was in Wisconsin and Chicago. He worked for a little while in Milwaukee in a jewelry store. Anyone out there know this payne?
Thanks Bob
robertjschieber@gmail.com

William M Payne Jr.. born abt 1875

southerncrossranch_1 — 2012-05-01 00:07:36Z

Could anyone please give me any information on my great grandfather William M Payne Jr. He married a Lena Johnson Mays and they had three sons. William G died 1930.
George L Payne may have married Edna Lou Adcock. The third son was John Louis Payne born about 1900 and married Grace Stephenson. My Great Grandfather William M Payne divorced Lena around the late 1920's and remarried but to whom I do not know. He also worked as a motorman on the street cars in Nashville, Tennessee.
My Grandmother Lena Mays Payne went on to marry a N.E. Nicholson.. I know nothing of these family members. I would be grateful for any help I can get..

PAYNE Tommye L 1934 2008 loving motehr loving daughter

t42Restland — 2012-04-24 15:10:40Z

PAYNE Tommye L 1934 2008 loving motehr loving daughter

DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,123 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname.
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Re: Thomas Payne - Native American

LisaMie — 2012-04-21 20:51:09Z

I'm writing on behalf of my Husband's line.
I feel like I keep coming across some family who don't believe in the Cherokee and others who absolutely do.

Do you know of any groups who are connected to this family who have done the DNA test?

Ruth Payne, of Florida, died in 1902

BarbaraCox147 — 2012-04-21 15:49:18Z

from Jacksonville Florida Times Union obit of May 1902:
Little Girl Dead.
Child of Mr and Mrs WD Payne of Morriston.
Archer, May 8- Ruth, the little daughter of Mr and Mrs WD Payne, was buried here Wednesday. She died of ileocolitis, the previous day, at the home of her parents at Morriston.

Walker R Payne, 54, of Lakeland died in Jacksonville FL in 5 Sept 1922

BarbaraCox147 — 2012-04-21 15:32:59Z

from Florida Jacksonville Journal obit of Wed. 6 Sep 1922:
Walker R Payne, 54, a prominent resident of Lakeland, died in Jacksonville FL Tues morning after a short illness. His body was accompanied by relatives was forwarded Tuesday afternoon to Lakeland for interment.
Other research (Florida death index) indicates he was born April 11, 1868 in MO to CW Payne (b in KY) and Sarah Funk (b in VA). His spouse was Ethel, and he was in the Mercantile Hardware business.

PAYNE Sylvia T 1908 1994

t42Restland — 2012-04-20 19:05:12Z

PAYNE Sylvia T 1908 1994

DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,123 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname.
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PAYNE W K Auntie Wanda 1927 1991 always loving always loved

t42Restland — 2012-04-19 22:50:56Z

PAYNE W K Auntie Wanda 1927 1991 always loving always loved

DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,123 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname.
If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely "not my family".

Re: Payne Family Shipdham/Cawston, Norfolk UK

SAC112750 — 2012-04-15 19:30:39Z

Just saw your message from a few years ago. I am the grand daughter of May Payne. May, Violet and Leonard immigrated to the USA. Please contact me with what you are looking for or check out my Ancestry.com information.

HAH Payne & Louise Annersley Divorce UK 1903

sueqpel173 — 2012-04-15 13:05:57Z

Looking for info on these two, two sons of this marriage - Henry b 1890 & John Annesley b 1891. HAH & Louise divorced 1903 in London and she re-married, perhaps Ernest Gale?
Does this ring a bell in any Payne family trees?
Just found she re-married to Henry Thomas Grant, one daughter Phyllis Louise, born 1910

Joseph Byron Payne

tk6231 — 2012-04-12 04:44:53Z

Am looking for Joseph Byron Payne born approximately in 1911 and lived in Adams County, Wisconsin and perhaps Milwaukee, Wisconsin and Was in Chicago Illinois approximately 1932. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thankyou

Needing info

navybabe49840 — 2012-04-09 23:21:43Z

I am needing info on Clayton Kane Payne of Atlanta GA. I found his family up to 1930. I need to find his parents name.

Looking up Payne"s from Anderson SC

omegadoom — 2012-04-09 00:22:30Z

Hello I am researching the Payne family from the Anderson SC and Gerogia area. Steven Payne married to Lula Etta Smith Payne. They had a son Elbert Jackson Payne SR. I would be interested in any information any way has and would like to share. Thanks

Re: Paine MA->NY->WI 1758-now

1_bonnieb96 — 2012-04-08 03:25:45Z

Contact eb gunther or look up her family history. She has done extensive research on Silas washburn payne of Wisconsin.

Henry William Payne, Ratcliff Highway, Spitalfields born abt 1860

rozgray — 2012-04-07 23:01:11Z

Father also Henry William Payne born St George in the East Mother Sarah Gordon- Lovell Born- Scotland. They kept the Commercial Tavern, Pennyfields , Poplar. Henry moved after his marriage to Bermondsey , Alscot st & Anchor St. He had 11 children and many siblings. Does anyone have any info on this Payne family?

Re: Ransom Payne Frontier U.S. Deputy Marshall b. 1850 in Iowa

threehundredland — 2012-03-23 23:12:02Z

Ransom Payne was honored in Kiowa County, OK in March 2012. Died near Snyder, OK on 18 March, 1937.

Robert Richard Payne died in 1920 in or around Denver CO

kbkeep1969gen — 2012-03-23 20:18:10Z

Looking for any info on Robert Richard Payne died 1920 in or around Denver CO he is supposed to have been married to Roberta Margaret(e?) Snyder Feb 1918 they had one daughter that died at three and one son.

Payne

LauraD94 — 2012-03-20 15:34:10Z

Is there anyone related to Harold leslie Payne who married to Ora Hazel(nee Shelley).Their children are Marjorie S. Payne who never married...Hazel Payne who married to Irwin C. Ricker..David Payne married to Priscilla? Thanks you Laura Woodrow

Joseph A. Payne Tennessee - Alabama

kmdur — 2012-03-18 21:44:15Z

I am having trouble tracing my gggrandfather's family...he was Joseph A.Payne b 10/11/1874 in TN (I think) and d. 8/24/1913 in Huntsville, AL. He married Alice Gibbs on 12/25/1892 in Lynchburg, TN in Moore County. I know they started a family and lived in the Flat Creek area of Bedford County TN and moved to Huntsville, AL to work in the cotton mills. A book at the Huntsville library shows each child working in the mills and states that their kids were born in Flat Creek/Shelbyville area of TN. Their daughter, Dovie Payne, is my g grandmother. I am having trouble tracing the Payne family and the Gibbs family, and I haven't been able to go past Joseph or Alice. Any help or direction would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Jeremiah PAYNE b. 1812 Long Island,NY

SColzani — 2012-03-15 12:49:12Z

I am th Granddaughter of Grace Payne 1902 - William Charles Payne 1878 - Edward Earl Payne 1849 - Jeremiah Payne 1812. I have the same information you do. The line stopped at Jeremiah. If you recieve any information about his parents and/or siblings, will you share them with me? I will do the same.
Sharry: slcolz@hotmail.com

Re: Charles B.W. Payne

emailmaniac — 2012-03-13 20:03:30Z

Margaret, I see the msg about Charles B W Payne was posted in 2006. Wondering if you still have item available. He is in my tree. He is the husband of my grand aunt. I'm having much difficulty locating info on him. He was a self employed druggist. Could this be the same person? I'm located in the PGH area. Hoping to hear from you

Josephine L. (Snook)(Wilson) Payne of Independence, NY

jamacauley — 2012-03-10 23:02:40Z

I’m attempting to locate the name of my great-great-great-grandmother’s biological father. We did not know she had been adopted until just a few years ago when we stumbled across her birth mother’s will in land records and then ordered a copy of her adoptive mother’s will. My grandmother was born in 1856 as Josephine L. Snook in Steuben Co., New York, her full brother Charles A. was born in 1858 in Steuben Co., New York. I have not located either one in the 1860 census, but by 1865 Josephine had been adopted by Willit & Susan (Richmond) Wilson of Independence, Allegany Co., New York and her brother Charles was adopted by Willit’s brother Ward Wilson, also of Independence, and also went by the Wilson surname. Willit passed away in 1868 and Susan in 1874. It was not until we stumbled across their birth mother’s will, that we knew Josephine & Charles were actually siblings instead of cousins. Their birth mother was Sarah A. Mattison. Sarah married Charles T. Atwell of the Andover, Allegany Co., New York area sometime between 1865 and 1868. She passed away in 1909. Their half-sisters were Effie Frances (Atwell) Bice (wife of John Bice) and Nellie (Atwell) (Vanliene) Payne (wife of Melvin Payne). Grandma Jospehine married Frank H. Payne, son of Major & Orrilla Payne. Just wondering if there are any descendents out there that know more details of the Snook family, who their father was, what happened to cause the family to be divided up, etc. It would be great to hear from you.

Thanks,

Jewel

John M Payne

loneturtle — 2012-03-09 18:06:31Z

Looking for info on John M. Payne b. 1784 N.C. d.1855
It is poosible he spelled his name Paine? I believe he may have married Susan Eaton and Susan Parrish. I am looking for his ancestors.

Henry Payne Raymond, Mississippi Military

crustdog7 — 2012-03-08 18:01:00Z

Hello there,
My name is Dusty Letchworth, and I have some information on a Henry Payne from Raymond, MS (not sure if he was born there or lived there). I attended gunsmithing school in Lakewood, CO, and there is a gun shop there called, "The Gun Room." In one of their cases, they have a Springfield Trapdoor military rifle that belonged to a Henry Payne from Raymond, MS. It caught my eye because I am from Mississippi, and it was neat to me that here is another Mississippian mentioned in the most random of places. I don't have a lot of the specifics, but Henry Payne was involved in some kind of conflict in the Philippines, and they have his service rifle displayed in the shop. He isn't my family, but if there was something like that connected to my family, I would love to know about it. Hopefully this will help someone find an old heirloom that an ancestor of theirs used. The people at the shop are very nice and maybe can get you a picture of it or even sell it to you (not sure if they will sell it but who knows). If I can help anyone get in contact with the shop, just email me at dletchworth@gmail.com and put "rifle" in the subject box. http://www.denvergunroom.com/SlideShow/index.htm: here is the link to the slideshow that has the picture of it and information about the rifle.

Re: Morgan Lewis PAYNE, Madison County Indiana

gpayne68 — 2012-03-04 20:53:01Z

Trying to determine if Morgan Lewis Payne Jr. (1827-1882 Grant Co., IN) is the son of Morgan Lewis Capt. Payne (1805-1878 Livingston, IL) and Rebecca Adams (1808-1838).

I believe I am related as follows:

Morgan Lewis Payne Jr. b1827
William Washington Payne b1861
Luther Kelso Payne b1909
my father b1938
me b1968

Re: Payne, Leonard

darrellwpayne — 2012-03-04 04:16:09Z

i may have info on leonard payne he may have traveled down here in my area of southeast texas vidor tx orange county..

HAH Payne Solicitor India & UK 1920

sueqpel173 — 2012-03-04 02:20:17Z

Looking for anything on Henry Alfred Handley payne (1863-1944) who married Ethel Louise Annesley - 2 children - Henry Payne, John Annesley Payne, born 1890/1891.
The Paynes divorced 1903, she remained UK he went back to India.

Re: Charles Payne cartoonist

michaeltisserand — 2012-03-02 18:31:59Z

Hello: I would like to discuss C.M. (Charles) Payne with you. I am a comics researcher and would be happy to share any information I have. I can be reached at michaeltisserand@yahoo.com. Thank you, Michael Tisserand

Jeremiah PAYNE b. 1812 Long Island,NY

Beaner1 — 2012-03-02 02:40:08Z

It has Been a while since I have posted to any of the message boards & I have hit one brick wall after another.I thought I would try the message boards again. The kindness & knowledge of other researchers on these boards are the best.
Jeremiah PAYNE b. 1812 Long Island,NY. I am searching for who his parents were & if he had any siblings.
What I know about Jeremiah, his birth 1812 Long Island NY; marriage to Leticia(Orr) in 1833 in Greene Co. IL. They moved to Scott County Iowa about 1837 and then in 1851 settled in Rock Island Co. IL. Jermiah & Leticia had a family of 11 children They were: Maria,Margaret,Helen,William,Jeremiah,James,Edward,Eliza,
George,Charles & Jennie. Most of the children stayed around the Rock Island area....
I sure would appreciate some assistance or tips on how to go about finding out who Jeremiah's parents were.
Thanks so much for your time & assistance. Please feel free to email me direct chops57@hotmail.com
Tina

Re: Hugh H Payne Died 1893 NY

ahmost — 2012-03-01 01:33:46Z

The bearded lady's mom remarried and became Margaret Pogue. Possibly the same Margaret who married a "Hugh H. Pogue". If correct, it would make sense that a Hugh H. Pogue was buried in the same space as Annie Jones Donovan. Interesting that POGUE looks much like PAYNE. Is there possibly a transcribing issue here?

Seeking photograph & Info of John Allen Payne Husband of Thelma Ragon Hale

Jacqueline_Whedbee — 2012-02-29 06:20:19Z

I am seeking information (dates and places)
for John Allen Payne Husband
b about 1903 son of J Maymon Payne and Hattie Elliot
Husbond of Thelma Ragon Hale

John Allen Payne and Thelma Hale were the parents of Peggy Lou Payne b 31 Jan 1924 Fayetteville, Arkansas m John Albert Wilson d. 22 Feb 2011 Thompson Falls Montana.

Any information at all would be appreciated.
I do have Ancestry.com so I have access to the Census
but he seems to go by Allen if I have looked at the right ones.

MARQUETTE PAYNE-BARKER

debbierobson656 — 2012-02-26 20:45:31Z

I'm looking for any information on Marquette Payne. Born in North Carolina in the 1880's. Married a BARKER, then possibly a Shinault. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks! Debbie

Payne Family,Al.--Clinton Payne

yemonie — 2012-02-24 18:03:37Z

Hello my name is Nocoasha Henry (live in California) and I am also looking for a Hannah Payne born May of 1838 in Alabama. She is listed on the 1870 Census as Hannah Paine(age31) with Richard Stone and lived in Police District 1, Lowndes, Mississippi. The Egglestons (white) are listed on this census but I'm not sure if they were the slave owners.

I can not find the father the children listed below, but it does state that Hannah was married in 1870 and then widowed in 1880.

Hannah has the following children:

John b. 1857 Alabama
Alick b. 1859 Alabama
Henry b. 3/1864 Alabama
Claiborne (aka Cleveland & Clinton) Payne b 1865 Alabama
George b 1874
James Alexander Hunter b 8/1880 Mississippi (which is my gggrandfather)

If any of this information is familar please email at yemoni3@yahooo.com or give me a call at any time at 707-712-00455. I would love to connect with anyone.

William Isaac Payne

lswood1 — 2012-02-19 13:11:05Z

I am looking for anyone connected to the family of William Isaac Payne (also known as Isaac Payne) and Catherine O'Neill.
William and Catherine were married is Manchester in 1866.

The family that I have found are :
William born abt 1866 England
George born abt 1868 Scotland
John born 1869 Longford Ireland
Thomas born abt 1871 Ireland
Catherine born abt 1873 Ireland
Robert born 1874 Dublin Ireland
Annie born abt 1877 Bangalore India
Augusta born 1879 Deptford England

Augusta married Richard Still in abt 1897 and they emigrated to New Zealand between 1906 and 1910. My husband is a grandson of their of their eldest daughter Dorothy Augusta

Any information would be greatly appreciated
Leonie Wood

Re: WILLIAM PAYNE AND CAROLINE FORD PAYNE

judylynnturner — 2012-02-14 16:56:29Z

Descendants of Caroline Ford
Generation No. I

1. CAROLINEI FORD was born 1835 in Alabama, United States. She married (2) WILLIAM PAYNE. He was born June 16, 1830 in Pelham, Shelby, Alabama, United States.

Child of CAROLINE FORD is:
2. i. LEONA LENORA2 PAYNE, b. April 06, 1855, Alabama, USA; d. August 05, 1917, Fort Worth, Tarrant County, Texas, USA.
Generation No. 2

2. LEONA LENORA2 PAYNE (CAROLINE' FORD) was born April 06, 1855 in Alabama, USA, and died August 05, 1917 in Fort Worth, Tarrant County, Texas, USA. She married (I) WILLIAM HENRY LOFTON, son of HENRY LOFTIN and SARAH Mc NAIR. He was born July 02, 1852 in Wahalak, Kemper, Mississippi, USA, and died February 07, 1914 in Mertzon, Trion, Texas, USA.

More About LEONA LENORA PAYNE: Residence: Justice Precinct 1, Irion, Texas

More About WILLIAM HENRY LOFTON: Residence: Kemper, Mississippi, United States

Child of LEONA PAYNE and WILLIAM LOFTON is;
3. i. ALICE3 LOFTIN, b. July 02, 1880, Eastland, Eastland, Texas, United States; d. March 14, 1924, Choate, Karnes, Texas, United States.

Children of LEONA LENORA PAYNE are:
ii. OSCAR HENRYS LOFTIN, b. October 23, 1875, Scooba, Kemper, Mississippi, USA; d. June 02, 1956, Electra, Wichita, Texas, USA.
iii. ALVA MAY LOFTIN, b. May 19, 1879, Mississippi, United States; d. March 15, 1917, Menard, Menard, Texas, United States.
iv. RICHARD ELMO LOFTIN, b. April 30, 1883, Choate, Karnes, Texas, United States; d. June 05, 1974, San Angelo, Tom Green, Texas, United States.
v. MYRTLE ELSIE LOFTIN, b. March 24, 1886, Carbon, Eastland, Texas, United States; d. October 11, 1974, Corpus Christi, Nueces, Texas, United States.
vi. MARY PEARL LOFTIN, b. April 09, 1888, Carbon, Eastland, Texas, United States; d. April 03, 1957, Kerrville, Kerr, Texas, United States.
4. vii. ADA VIRGINIA LOFTON, b. May 08, 1888, Ranger, Eastland, Texas, United States; d. August 16, 1957, Corpus Christi, Kleberg, Texas, United States,
viii. IVA AGNES LOFTIN, b. May 13, 1890, Carbon, Eastland, Texas, United States; d. April 10, 1968, Kenedy, Karnes, Texas, United States.
ix. EDGAR FRED LOFTIN, b. October 20, 1892, Carbon, Eastland, Texas, United States; d. August 07, 1955, Big Lake, Reagan, Texas, United States.
x. SETH HAYDEN LOFITIN, b. March 26, 1895, Choate, Karnes, Texas, United States; d. February 06, 1973, Aspermont, Stonewall, Texas, United States,
xi. CLYDE LOFTIN, b. October 02, 1897, Mertzon, Trion, Texas, United States; d. August 28, 1983, Mertzon, Irion, Texas, United States.
xii. LENORA LEONA LOFTIN, b. November 02, 1899, Choate, Karnes, Texas, United States; d. November 21, 1990, Kountze, Hardin, Texas, United States.

Re: John T Payne Parents

JerryPayne11 — 2012-02-12 22:47:57Z

I believe you may have something wrong----Robert E. Payne is burried at Kosoma,Ok Head stone say's: R E Payne the other head stone next to him say's A M Payne which was Alfred Marion Payne son of R.E Payne --mary Payne wife of R.E. Payne we believe is buried in Rockwall,Texas. My email address is jmpayne@miswaco.com and at home is tkandjp@brightok.net-----I live at Sulphur,Okla I enjoyed looking at the pictures in your tree esp --Bud Payne which I remember quit well.

Re: (Charles) Bartley Payne m Jane Miller (Alabama)

Sahareia — 2012-02-12 04:16:21Z

Sounds encouraging. wind_spirit@rocketmail.com
charlie's daughter - Penelope married Carter. Family was in AL and most then migrated to TX and OK. Would like any additional information you have.

Re: (Charles) Bartley Payne m Jane Miller (Alabama)

LOCKEroots — 2012-02-11 20:52:59Z

I know this is a very old post, hope it finds you well.

I have a Bartley Payne of Alabama, most likely Jefferson County Alabama being named in the Locke family bible as being the son of Curtis or William Curtis Payne.
I am betting this is likely one and the same Bartley Payne?
My 4th great grand mother was Elizabeth Payne a sister to Bartley Payne.

Frank Payne 1890-1930 B. Kentucky D. Missouri

pipster1969 — 2012-02-11 16:33:06Z

He was my great grandfather, murdered by his own brother Louis in 1930 in Pineville, Missouri. That's about all i know other than he had at least 3 children Marvin Lee (my grandfather), Bessie Pauline and Lucille and lived in Boone, W.Virginia in 1920. Any info would be much appreciated as other than newspaper clippings (http://www.flickr.com/photos/63709042@N07/sets/7215762918229...) i can't find anything.

Re: I'm a direct descendant of ELIJAH L. PAYNE of Duboise, Indiana....NEED HELP IMMIDIATELY!!

wyliebh77 — 2012-02-11 07:27:07Z

I am looking for information for my sister-in-law on the Paynes from Ireland Twp, Dubois County, IN. Her grandfather was John T. Payne, born 1867 in Ireland Twp, Dubois County, IN, son of James Ballinger Payne and Mary J. James Balleinger Payne was a brother to Elijah L Payne. According to my sister-in-law's father's (Charles Augustus Payne)social security application, his father was John T. Payne and mother was Roda White, both from Ireland Twp. Can anyone put any "teeth" in all this. According to her father, his father and mother were killed by indians in Missouri when he was young and he was raised as an orphan.....Thanks wbh

Re: James Madison Payne Sr. Information

Lobo1911 — 2012-02-09 02:00:51Z

All right . . . that still leaves us at square one: what was James Madison Payne Sr.'s original surname?

There is a possibility, if James Madison Payne Sr. moved to Tahlequah, that some museum there might have his personal papers with records of his original surname, but that's a long shot. If it isn't there, then Tennessee might hold some answers.

The 1820 Warren County Federal Census lists "Payne, William" twice. It also lists "Daniel Payne" and "Ransom T. Payne". http://tngenweb.org/warren/1820.txt

Re: James Madison Payne Sr. Information

kansascwy — 2012-02-08 19:32:04Z

Although we do not know the exact date of Sarah Payne Randolph's birth, the genealogy that we have done would support your theory #2.
James Madison Payne, Sr. was unknown to us until we examined the documents included in the 1896 Dawes Commission application submitted by the grand daughter of Sarah Randolph, Mary Frances Randolph Hanna. In the application to the Commission for inclusion in the Cherokee Nation, Mary F. Hanna (my great grandmother) submits seven affidavits ranging in date from 1891 to 1896. In at least four of these affidavits it is sworn that Mary F. Hanna's father, George W. Randolph was the son of Sarah Randolph and the nephew of James Madison Payne. Two people swear that they were 'full' brother and sister and another person swears that he knew James Madison Payne and Sarah Randolph in the 'Old Nation' and he believed George W. Randolph to be Cherokee.

Re: The Paynes

ronaldmarcus65 — 2012-02-07 17:56:05Z

Carolyn
Any off your family as far as you know from Roundhill Va., Berryville Va. Middleburg Va., or Clark county Va.?

Re: I'm a direct descendant of ELIJAH L. PAYNE of Duboise, Indiana....NEED HELP IMMIDIATELY!!

drortiz — 2012-02-07 09:39:34Z

There are a number of family trees at ancestry.com for Elijah L. Payne. Of course, you can't just take the information at face value; you will want to find additional documentation, but it's a nice starting place.

I found the marriage records for Elijah Payne and Telitha Jane Williams (28 Sep 1848) and Elijah Payne and Mary Williams (28 Nov 1856) in the Indiana Marriage Collection, 1800-1941. Some databases say the second wife was named Mary Woolsey instead, but I don't know the source for their information.

What I would like to know is whether Elijah really had two daughters named Amanda -- one with each wife -- or did he just have one daughter named Amanda with his second wife.

Re: James Madison Payne Sr. Information

Lobo1911 — 2012-02-07 02:36:07Z

The thing I'm trying to find (ideally) is James Madison Payne's original last name. A tall order, yes, but we'll see what happens.

Sarah "Sally" Elizabeth Payne's vital dates seem to be: b. c. 1784, m. Isham Randolph c. 1796, d. after 1860. I'm having some trouble nailing down her birthdate (ranging from 1778-1790). The 1860 Tennessee census lists her as 76 years old.

If James Madison Payne Sr. was born in Tennessee in 1810, then he would have been 12 in 1828 at the Dwight Mission, having entered it in 1822 (as per the Cherokee Phoenix newspaper). This would make Sarah Elizabeth Payne roughly 26 years older than James Madison Payne Sr. She seems to have died after 1860, in McMinnville, Warren County, TN.

After 1828, the Dwight Mission moved to Sallisaw, OK, south of Tahlequah, OK. As noted in my last post, James Madison Payne Sr. may have been Secretary of Education of the Cherokee Nation, based in Tahlequah in 1845. This fits with what I've heard of him as a person of some importance in the Western Cherokee Nation.

Theory 1:

As I understand it, James Madison Payne Sr. was most likely sponsored by a wealthy Payne family. His adopted sister, Sarah Elizabeth Payne Randolph (b. c. 1784, m. Isham Randolph c. 1796. d. after 1860) came from here. Her parents would have been Capt. William and Elizabeth Payne.

Theory 2:

If Sarah was Cherokee, not White, then Isham Randolph (evidently a wealthy man) could have removed her from Cherokee culture when he married her around the age of 12. If this is the case, then she would have been the genuine sibling of James Madison Payne Sr.

I lean toward Theory 1 myself. I would like to know one thing for starters: how certain are we that James Madison Payne Sr. was born in Tennessee in 1810?