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Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

1_bconway217 — 2012-05-17 19:32:13Z

Greetings,Would it be possible to have you contact me to discuss some of the information you did not want to disclose in public? I am supposedly descended from a daughter of William Penn through the Grindrod family originating in Conway Wales. (pure coincidence with my family name on the Conway Wales)

Constance Penn

aljack45 — 2012-05-07 15:58:04Z

Hi

Looking for Constance Penn whose parents were Ernest Penn and Tryphena from Buckinghamshire

PENN Charles H - Vietnam Wall section 6E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-05 01:36:54Z

PENN Charles H - Vietnam Wall section 6E

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,289 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

PENN Herman - Vietnam Wall section 6E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-02 14:47:36Z

PENN Herman - Vietnam Wall section 6E

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 227,289 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

ThingsFound — 2012-03-22 00:21:27Z

My grandpa Charles Melvin Penn is 81 yrs young, born on Hunters Hill, Alleghany Co, Virgina but raised and still living in Amherst county, Buffalo ridge, Stonewall Mill area and he said that his granddaddy use to tell him when he was a little boy, that if you keep digging and go far enough back, that you will find that we got that surname given to us by William Penn when they migrated over, and got mixed in with our tribe, and he says thats whats been passed down in our family for generations... He also says to research someone by the name Walter Ashby Plecker was unassuming in appearance: a small-town doctor whose penchant for number-crunching earned him the position of registrar in Virginias Bureau of Vital Statistics in 1912. But appearances were indeed deceiving. With Plecker at the helm, the bureau went on an all-out war against "amalgamation". He tried to wipe out the Indians from that point by changing the race or putting a different race on all records...Blessings... Tsi's'qua

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

williamsc71 — 2012-03-18 18:14:22Z

I have recently discovered that my 5 x gt grandfather was William Penn, born 1772 in Chalfont St Giles, Buckinghamshire, England. There has been a story in my family for years that we were also direct descendants of William Penn. I have got no further with my research into finding his parents but if you have any information I'd be grateful to know of it.

Re: Files or Charts on the Penn Family of Ohio

EMARLO — 2012-03-16 01:05:36Z

So, how do these Penns from Ohio connect to the Benjamin Penn and Richard Penn and Sarah Penn DuVall from Broad Top, Pennsylvania. They went to Pennsylvania with Jeremiah DuVall, Sarah's husband, and are listed in the 1790 Bedford, Pa. census, but, can not find anything more about the Penn "boys" as they are referred to. Although Sarah is buried in Bedford County along with Jeremiah. Did they go to Ohio from Pa. or did they go back home to Maryland? They were from Anne Arundel Co., Md.
Does anyone have info?

Re: William Penn descendant?

CFChildressJr — 2012-03-12 11:50:02Z

I have never seen a mention of Beverly in any charts. John Turner Penn does not appear either. Rawley or Rolly Penn either. Martha and her family were from Patrick County Virginia and moved to Covington, Louisiana in the early 1800's. She married Paris Constantine Childress and eventually moved to New Orleans, around the 1840's where he practiced law. She and all of her children are buried in New Orleans with their wives and/or husbands. I am sorry that I was not a positive help to you in your quest.

Charlie

Re: William Penn descendant?

ThingsFound — 2012-03-11 23:58:19Z

Was this Martha Ann Penn a Martha Ann Beverly before she was married? Also, Does a John Turner Penn ring any bells? If you have any info on this it would be great? Also, how about a Raleigh could be spelled Rawley or Rolly Penn? Please any info would be great it is the direct line of my family... Thank You..

Re: VA. PENN FAMILY- AMHERST COUNTY

ThingsFound — 2012-03-11 23:53:28Z

Have you checked out the book The Buffalo Ridge Cherokee: The Colors and Culture of a Virginain Indian community...It was very helpful and informing.. My GGG Grandfather is John Turner Penn. Father of my GG Grandfather Ellison Penn, Father of my Great Grandfather Hunn Penn... The Buffalo Ridge Cherokee has Risen... Anyone with any extra info would be great... Thank You

Re: Elizabeth Penn Hammond

tkent12345 — 2012-03-10 18:47:43Z

i am not familiar with a genealogy written by william wallace hammond. do you have a copy? the book written by roland hammond in the 1890's can be found online by googling "a history and genealogy of the descendents of william hammond of london".

John Penn the signer

JeanneBrower37 — 2012-03-03 00:34:59Z

Interested in your article. Where can I view it?

father of James Penn m. E. Alloway

JeanneBrower37 — 2012-03-03 00:22:46Z

Anything new on who his father is? We're also from line supposedly thru reprobate son of Wm. Penn. I tried to connect his father as William James b. 1703, d. 1746 but do not believe that is the true line. Jeanne Brower

Re: Penn family in alabama

jimsing45 — 2012-02-24 20:52:49Z

I'm fairly sure William Chandler Penn married Elizabeth Dent 1732-1753. But several places show old WC's dates to be 1730 to 1847, which would have made him 117 years old at his death. That's highly questionable. I'm not at all sure about his mother and father and anywhere further down the line. Anyone else have a clue?

Jim Hargrove, originally from Birmingham, AL Sarah F Penn 1859-1937 was my grandmother.

A. H. Penn d. 1904 probably VA

keyesperry — 2012-02-15 21:54:49Z

This article was found at ChroniclingAmerica.com
Alexandria Gazette
Alexandria, District of Columbia [now Virginia]
Thursday evening, December 26, 1905 (page 2)
IN MEMORIAM.
In memory of A. H. PENN, our dear father, who departed this life December 26, 1904 -- one year ago today. A loving husband and devoted father.
I hear the soft winds sighing
Through every bush and tree,
Where our dear father is lying
Away from friends and me.
The midnight stars are shining
Upon his silent grave,
Then chide us not for weeping --
We have no father now.
BY HIS CHILDREN.

Eliz. Perry, born 1750, grand niece of Sir Wm. Penn?

nashwallace — 2012-02-12 18:42:21Z

Does anyone have possible info on my ancestor, Elizabeth PERRY, born 1750 in PA., supposed to be niece of Wm. Penn, born 1673? [daugher of Elizabeth Penn, born 1712??].

Any help would be most appreciated !

Re: William Penn Descendent

EleanorZane — 2012-02-09 13:57:00Z

Eleanor and Henry are buried in Emmanuel Methodist Episcopal Cemetery in Penns Grove, NJ in lot 117. He died in Sep 1914 in Penns Grove. She died in 1916. No other info.
There is also a William Munion,Jr. died July 1919 buried there in Lot 60A. Both men served in the Civil War.

Re: some English records for William Penn senior esquire

CLforbush — 2012-02-03 02:38:42Z

Reference WY800-803
Title Agreement and Marriage Settlement. Four copies.
Date Free Text 5 Jul 1727
Scope and Content (i) John Penn of London gentleman. }
(ii) Thomas Penn of London merchant. }surviving children of
(iii) Richard Penn of London woollen draper. }William Penn.
(iv) Margaret Penn of London spinster. }
(v) Thomas Freame of London grocer.
(vi) Joseph Wyeth of London linendraper and
Silvanus Bevan of London apothecary.
Recites Will of William Penn, 1711, bequeathing personal estate in Pennsylvania to wife Hannah and £300 per annum.
Will of Hannah Penn,
Dennis Penn died in 1722. Disputes have arisen. There is due to Margaret £300 given to her by her grandfather Thomas Callowhill. She is shortly to marry

Thomas Freame.
It is agreed that since Hannah never touched or claimed the £300 per annum it is hereby extinguished; that the real and personal estate of William

Hannah and Dennis Penn shall be divided among John, Thomas and Richard, and Margaret; that the £300 is conveyed to parties of (vi) in trust for

Margaret.
Witnesses: John Page, Richard Beale.

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Reference WY848
Title Release.
(i) Thomas Freame of London, grocer and wife Margaret.
(ii) Silvanus Bevan of London apothecary.
(iii) John Penn of Feens, Berkshire, esquire.
Date Free Text 12 May 1732

Scope and Content Recites WY800-3.
In consideration of a conveyance by John Penn to Thomas Freame of 10,000 acres land in Pennsylvania, value £1,115, in full of Margaret’s share in estates of William and Hannah Penn.
Witnesses: John Shewbart (?), William Benham, John Page.
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Reference WY847
Title Declaration of Trust. £500.
(i) John Penn of Feens, Berkshire, esquire.
(ii) Charles Fell of Westminster esquire and Gulielma Maria his wife.
Date Free Text 15 May 1739

Scope and Content Recites that John Penn is administrator of William and Hannah Penn deceased; WY842; WY844;WY845; there has been paid to Daniel Phillips £100, and to John Penn £150, in part of their debt, and to William Aubrey £50 that remained due on the security, making £300 altogether, so that there remained due £950; William Aubrey is deceased; his wife Letitia was released by Daniel Phillips and John Penn of all their claim to the debt; Letitia Aubrey assigned to John Penn the £950 debt; Gulielma Maria Fell is a granddaughter of William Penn, and is entitled to a tract of 10,000 acres in Pennsylvania, part of which has been sold for £500; this is proposed to be lent to the said John Penn.
Witnesses: Thomas Bulmer, Edward Oake, Thomas Rush, Samuel Andrews.
___________________

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Reference WY815-816
Title Will, and probate copy, of John Penn of Hitcham, Buckinghamshire, esquire.
Date Free Text 24 Oct 1746. Proved in England, 12 Nov 1746. Proved in America, 20 July 1747

Scope and Content Executors for personal estates in England: good friends William Vigor of London, merchant, Joseph Freame citizen and banker of London, and Lascelles Metcalfe of Westminster esquire.
To them money, stocks, debts etc., plate, household goods etc., in Great Britain; also money, goods and effects in America “which before such time as my death shall be heard of in America shall have been sent or meant to be sent to England”; also real estate in Bristol and Gloucestershire, to be sold for the best price; money arising, to be taken as part of personal estate; then English personal estate to be disposed of thus:-
(1) for payment of debts, funeral expenses etc;
(2) for payment of an annuity of £120 to sister Margaret Freame; if she pre-deceases him, annuity to be sold.
(3) to pay to servant John Travers £100.
(4) to pay English executors 100 guineas each.
(5) to purchase and make up £10,000 stock, to produce a yearly
income of £300, and to pay thereout:- half-yearly £7.10s. to “my old and worthy servant Thomas Penn”, £7.10s. to old servant Hannah Roberts, and £5 to Jane now wife of Henry Aldridge of White Waltham, Berkshire.
The residue to be paid for “the liberal education, maintenance and better support” of nephew John Penn, unless by virtue of this will he becomes entitled to testator’s moiety of Pennsylvania, and money then is to be paid for education etc. of the person next in expectation of the moiety. (Instructions as to manner of payment and re-investment of surplus, if any, given.) Also out of English personal estate, to invest £6,000;
1/3 of annual income to maintenance etc. of nephew and nieces, Hannah, Richard Penn and Philadelphia Hannah Freame; upon attainment of 21 by Richard or marriage of nieces ⅓ part of the principal to be conveyed to each. Any remainder of English personal estate to brother Thomas Penn.
To nephew John Penn, share in manor of Perkassie, tract of liberty land, High Street lot (which is claimed under Wills of father and grandfather Thomas Callowhill).
To brother Richard Penn, moiety of properties, lands, rents etc. in New Jersey. Richard appointed executor for estate in New Jersey.
Moiety of province of Pennsylvania, the Three Lower Counties, Newcastle, Kent and Sussex upon Delaware, and of the royal franchise of the of the government of the province and counties, to brother Thomas for life; and to Thomas Hyam and David Barclay of London merchants, as trustees; after death of Thomas Penn to his first sons and his heirs; if default of issue to brother Richard for life; then to nephew John Penn son of Richard and his heirs male; if default of issue to nephew Richard son of Richard and his heirs male; or to other sons of Richard, or sons of Thomas, or Hannah daughter of Richard, and her heirs male, or sister Margaret and heirs, or Philadelphia Hannah Freame and her heirs; then to nephew of the half blood William Penn of Cork, Ireland, esquire, to Springett his son, to Christiana Gulielma Penn his daughter; then to grandnephew of half blood Robert Edward son of Gulielma Maria Fell deceased, to great niece Mary Margaretta Fell, eldest daughter of Gulielma Maria Fell, then to Gulielma Maria Frances Fell. Whoever become entitled to the moiety, male or female, is to take the surname Penn and use testator’s arms. Pennsylvania and the Lower Counties to be subject to payment of £6,000 to English exececutors if they have need of it for the purposes before mentioned, if not to brother Thomas Penn.
Empowers future possessor of moiety “to do, execute and perform all lawful acts, deeds, matters and things” concerning conveyance of estate, appointments of governors, for making treaties, etc.
Moiety is to be released as soon as possible from payments of the £6,000.
To brother Thomas Penn share of fines and purchase money from Pennsylvania and the Three Lower Counties, also of rents, and all personal estate in Pennsylvania at time of decease. Appoints Thomas executor of Pennsylvania estate.
“Lastly, as this my will was hastily and suddenly drawn” requests brothers to remedy any defects.
Witnesses: John Cormell, Ferdinand John Paris, Robert Gwynn.
(Probate has fragment of Pennsylvania seal).

Re: some English records for William Penn senior esquire

CLforbush — 2012-02-03 02:34:50Z

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Reference WY797
Title Appointment. Hannah Penn widow and relict of William Penn esquire.
Date Free Text 18 Nov 1718

Scope and Content Recites will of William Penn, with reference to his American estate.
Three sixths of Pennsylvania to son John.
One sixth each to sons Thomas, Richard and Dennis.
The remainder in the Three Lower Counties or in East and West Jersey to be similarly divided.
Witnesses: Lucy Davies, J. Clement, John Page
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Reference WY796
Title Probate Will of Hannah Penn widow of William Penn late of Ruscomb, Berkshire, esquire.
Date Free Text 11 Sep 1718
Scope and Content Recites Will of William and in pursuance of powers thereby given to her: residue of estate after payment of debts etc. to be divided

into six parts of which three to eldest son John on condition he pays sister Margaret £2,000 upon her marriage or at 21; remaining three parts to sons

Thomas, Richard and Dennis.
Witnesses: Susan Perrin,Mary Chandler, Hannah Hoskin, Thomas Grove, S. Clement.
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Re: some English records for William Penn senior esquire

CLforbush — 2012-02-03 02:32:48Z

Reference WY614-615
Title Settlement. Lease and Release.
Date Free Text 27 Nov 1711
Scope and Content (i) Thomas Callowhill.
(ii) Brice Webb of Bristol, linendraper, Charles Hatford of Bristol, linendraper, Richard Champion of Bristol, merchant.
-- Brickleaze close in St. James;
5,500 acres land in Pennsylvania, set out in the county of Philadelphia there, near Penquiamene Creek;
several liberty lots in Philadelphia and buildings thereon, occupied by Thomas Roberts, in Delaware Front Street and High Street;
80 acres “Liberty land” in the suburbs of Philadelphia;
1,000 acres land in Pennsylvania, purchased of Isaac Martendale in the counties of Chester and Buckinghamshire;
messuage and lands in Frenshaw and Winterborne, Gloucestershire;
messuage and lands in Ticknam, Somerset;
messuage in St. Maryport Street, Bristol;
one-sixth part of a cornerhouse fronting High Street, St. Maryport, Bristol;
8 messuages in Broadmead Street, St. James within the suburbs, Bristol;
1 messuage and garden on James’ back, in the same parish;
10 messuages, in Silver Street, Bridewell Lane, and Lewin’s mead, in St. James;
Settlement made in consideration of Callowhill’s love for his wife Hannah,
his daughter Hannah wife of William Penn senior esquire, and their children Margaret, John, Thomas, Dennis and Richard.

Reference WY608-609
Title Covenant to Levy a Fine. And a Copy.
Date Free Text 10 Nov 1677

Scope and Content (i) Thomas Callowhill of Bristol, linendraper and wife Hannah.[Hannah Penn's parents]
(ii) Thomas Jordan of Bristol, grocer and wife Lydia.
(iii) Simon Clement of Bristol, merchant, and wife Mary.
(iv) Phebe Hollister of Bristol spinster.
(v) Walter Clement of Alveston, Gloucestershire, gentleman, and Nathaniel Haggatt of Bristol, esquire.
(Hannah, Lydia, Mary and Phebe are daughters of Dennis Hollister deceased.)
-- new built house called the Fryer’s orchard, piece of pasture adjoining; messuage in St. Maryport Street;
messuage called the White Hart in Broad Street.

some English records for William Penn senior esquire

CLforbush — 2012-02-03 02:28:56Z

Reference WY804
Title Order of the Court of Exchequer.
Date Free Text 12 Feb 1728
Date From 1728

Date To 1728

Scope and Content Recites that Hannah Penn widow and executrix of William Penn esquire deceased, proprietary governor of Pennsylvania, John,

Thomas, Margaret, Richard and Dennis Penn, infants by their mother, plaintiffs, in Michaelmas term, 1721, exhibited a bill versus
Springett Penn, Henry Gouldney, Joshua Gee, John Wood, Thomas Oade, John Field, Richard Hill, Isaaca Norris, Samuel Preston, James Logan, Aubrey

Thomas and wife Gulielma Maria, William Penn grandson of William Penn deceased, Mary Penn widow, William Aubrey and wife Letitia, Robert Earl of

Oxford, Earl Powlett and H.M. Attorney General, defendants, reciting letters patent of Charles I and a grant by James Duke of York to William Penn, that

he having a considerable estate in England and Ireland, settled on his eldest son by his first wife, could not pay his debts thereout or provide for his

children the plaintiffs; that William Penn offered the powers of government to Queen Anne who resolved to accept them and to pay £12,000 for them,

of which £1,000 was paid; the various mortgages on the American property; that in 1720 William Penn the son died leaving Springett Penn his heir; that

some of the trustees of William Penn’s will were deceased; that Gulielma Maria had married Aubrey Thomas; that the Earl declined to act; that the

Attorney General insisted that without a proper conveyance to the Crown that remainder of the £12,000 could not be paid; that the mortgagees insisted

that the government was included in the mortgage, and that the surviving trustees refused to act; the Court was requested to settle. Proceedings insued;

before any settlement Dennis Penn died, also Henry Gouldney, his executor being Adam Gouldney. John, Margaret and Thomas Penn being 21, they and

Hannah Penn and Richard Penn by Hannah, in Michaelmas term, 1725, exhibited their bill of revivor and supplemental bill. Case was heard 13 December

1726. Court decreed the will was proved, and should be duly performed, that the Deputy Remembrancer should take account of the testator’s debts,

that the defendants Hill, Norris, Preston and Logan should sell enough property to pay debts, and that being done should convey to Gulielma Maria Fell,

Springett and William Penn, the three children of William Penn the son, to Letitia wife of William Aubrey, 10,000 acres in America each, and then the

rest to John, Thomas, Richard and Margaret by Hannah Penn; the surviving mortgagees should give an account of what had already been paid off, and

when all was paid convey the property back to John, Thomas, Richard and Margaret; and that the money raised by sale of the government should be

accounted part of the personal estate of William Penn senior and applied accordingly. It was also ordered that the cause as concerning His Majesty the

King, should stand until the next Easter term. Before further proceedings Hannah Penn died. In Easter term, 1727, John, Thomas, Richard and Margaret

Penn exhibited their bill of revivor, against Springett Penn, Richard Hill, Isaac Norris, Preston, Logan, Gee, Wood, Oade, Adam Gouldney, John, Earl

Powlett, William Penn grandson, Mary Penn, Gulielma Maria Fell, William Aubrey and wife Letitia and Sir Philip Yorke, H.M. Attorney General. It was

decreed by the Court 15 May 1727 that the will was proved and should be performed.
Ordered by the present court that the cause stand to be heard some time in the next Michaelmas term.

.

Re: Penn Families - England and America

davegp1 — 2012-02-01 17:45:43Z

Hi Veronica, Good to hear from you. I believe Wrilliam R Penn's middle name was (Rivera) but I am not sure. I have not seen it anywhere. Yes, I have found a total of 7 children so far. They are (in birth order); Ida Penn, William Rivera Penn (a minister), Alfredo Rivera Penn (a Presbyterian minister), Enrique Rivera Penn, David Penn, Reuben Penn, and Ricarda Penn.
I know that Enriqueta was married to Gabino Cedillo and had one son. Do you have more information? PLEASE contact me. my email is davegp1@aol.com
David Penn

Re: PENN FAMILY - INFORMATION ON BRANCHES

r_deese — 2012-02-01 11:41:11Z

Deae Pennsearch, do you have info o the Alabama Penns/Simpsons,thru Stephen Penn, the Rev War Soljier. I descend thru the Simpson/Jones/Deese line I was b. in Tuscaloosa Co, Ala. in 1940s, email is Kono_palolo@msn.com
If you coul send me a gedcom I wou;d sure apprecite it
Thank You
Randy

Re: Penn Families - England and America

vcedillo1 — 2012-02-01 04:55:55Z

Hi David,

My name is Veronica. My Great Grandmother in Enriqueta Penn. Her parents are William L Penn and Paula Rivera. I have found death certificates for her, Ruben Penn, and William R Penn. What was William's middle name? Also, are there any other children besides Enrique and David?

Dan Penn living in Cherokee County Alabama during 1885

dartigers — 2012-01-15 20:30:34Z

I am searching for information for Dan Penn who was living in Cherokee County Alabama around July of 1885. I suspect that he was a teenager at the time.

While researching a branch of my family in the probate records in Cherokee County, I found court records where Dan was arrested with a Van Langley (15 at that time: maybe) and a Will Garrison (9 at the time).

If anyone who reads this is related to the Dan Penn mentioned in the court records, I'll be happy to forward the information and reference data to you.

Thank you for your time.

Penn's family

jbeaudry30 — 2012-01-11 22:23:08Z

I think that you will probably find something in the great
bibliotheque of Utha. In the town ''Salt lake city''.
I am presently at Penn's landing marina Tortolla and I find this subject very interesting. Thimothy Penn that I met last week told me that his ancerters come from Pensylvany.
William Penn was the foundator of the town of Pennsylvany.
He was British, a good man and made goods thincks for his country. I know that he ad a mission in the Caraibes after
the American War. See what you can find about him and see the bibliotheque there is the solution. Good luck.

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

jadelyne — 2011-12-20 16:55:00Z

If you are still looking, I have direct lineage.
Carmandy Penn
Walter Robert Penn Jr
Walter Robert Penn Sr
Calvin George Penn
William Ross Penn (Married into Martin VanBuren Parmer line)
James Christie Penn
John William Penn
William Ephraim Penn
Benjamin D Penn Jr
Benjamin Penn Sr
Edward Penn (1683-1741)
** What I have been able to find.

Re: Irvine Garland Penn

gnewgie1 — 2011-12-09 21:24:09Z

OK, i'm sorry that i didnt find you sooner, I'm also researching the Penn family, Irvine mother i my great grandmother were sister's, i do believe i have a photo of I. G. Williams, last year i found a relative of Irvine Sr his great grand son, i would love to make contact with you so we could exchange info.

Re: Irvine Garland Penn

avaburnell — 2011-12-09 13:26:16Z

This Anna?

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X6HT-WNL

Alice Penn Powers 1563-1632

robbie19371 — 2011-12-08 20:45:01Z

Would like to know any information about Alice Penn, alledgedly born in England 1563, had a daughter (Phoebe) in Germany (Rotterdam?) and died in Plymouth, Mass in 1632. She was married to a John Powers. If this info is correct I think they might have been one of those puritan families who escaped to Holland/Germany and then later came across to America, possibly on the 2nd or 3rd Mayflower voyage. Have been unable to discover any truth in this theory.

Lucille Penn

hasample1 — 2011-12-07 06:43:36Z

Hello. I'm researching a family drama in 1929 that involved a Lucille Penn, who at the time lived in Tracy, CA with her common law husband, Mark Higgins. If anyone out there in cyberspace has heard of either Penn or Higgins, please -- PLEASE -- contact me. Thanks!

Re: William Penn Tree

1_marthascott — 2011-11-29 00:28:25Z

There is an excellent source which shows nearly all the Penn descendants. It is:

The Penn Family of Virginia by E.P. Waller

This is available in a book format, which I think you can order from Amazon, or from

http://discover.hsp.org/Record/hsp.opac.v01-75319/Details

This is The Historical Society of Virginia, phone number 215-732-6200.

I have a copy of the Waller book. It is excellent! I was looking for an digital copy of the book than can be uploaded in Wikitree, Family Tree, or some other electronic version of family history software.

My line is through Col. Abram Penn and Ruth Stovall of Virginia.

Good luck!

Martha Scott

Re: William Penn Tree

1_marthascott — 2011-11-29 00:28:24Z

Penn/op den Graeff connections

tpkamathes — 2011-09-29 03:27:47Z

William Penn's maternal grandmother, Alet Pletjes was the sister of Greitjin Pletjes. Greitjin married Herman op den Graeff, the grandfather of the 3 op den Graeff brothers who helped settle Germantown Pennsylvania. Both families are well documented, so I am pretty positive of the connection. I am curious as to why this connection isn't more well known. Any suggestions?

Re: OHIO PENN FAMILY

tomboyyz — 2011-09-26 16:28:46Z

I would be interested in Penn info... I know my Father was born in KY, lived in OH, PA and died in OH - Ohio areas of Columbus, Blacklick, and Grove City. I know there was a large Dickinson/Dickenson connection also. And father had half-siblings. Supposedly a cousin, Marcella living in Tampa, FL had traced the family back to William Penn before she died.

tomboyyz@yahoo.com

my tree so far http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/30471991/family?cfpid=1227399...

Re: PENN FAMILY/BLACK

billhino — 2011-09-25 22:49:43Z

Just wondering what part of Ga. My family is Penn from Rome, Ga.

Re: Elizabeth Penn wife of James Hamilton McWhorter

mebateman1 — 2011-09-21 23:38:40Z

on familysearch.org lists the mother's maiden name as Pearce but if you look at the original copy on the website it probably should be Penn:

per familysearch.org
GA Deaths
Wm Pearce McWhorter
d. 25 Jan 1922
age 83y7mo1da in Novaville Greene Co Ga
b. 24 Jun 1838 in GA
male white
father James Hamilton McWhorter b. GA
mother Eliza Pearce (Penn) b. GA

per familysearch.org
James Hamilton McWhorter
married 25 Jan 1831 Oglethorpe Co GA
to Eliza Penn

http://fax.libs.uga.edu/hmans/1f/hargrett_manuscripts_Ma.txt

This link if regarding Mcwhorter family info that is stored in the library. Maybe some of the letters would say something about Eliza's family?

Re: re ancesters

mebateman1 — 2011-09-21 23:01:54Z

I'm not quite certain why your grandfather's name has commas in it?
When was he born and when and where did your grandfather die?
Have you ordered his death cert? With a specific death date was a search done for an obit?

Re: try to locate husband father

mebateman1 — 2011-09-21 22:56:39Z

What is on his birth certificate?
Was Penn his mother's maiden name?
If Penn is his mother's maiden name he needs to find his birth male surname and to do that he may have to do a ydna test which should show which surnames he matches up with.
Is his mother still living?
Which branch of the military and where was he stationed?

to order a Family Tree dna test
http://www.familytreedna.com/

Let me know if you have any questions.

Re: BVI Penn's

tshanne — 2011-09-21 06:42:26Z

Hi Kacey, would you happen to have a sister named Kizy...if so I remember you, your sis and your mom also father when you lived in Tortola. We were probably about 10 at the time.

Re: Penn Families - England and America

r_deese — 2011-09-19 01:28:53Z

My grgrgr grandmother was Sarah Simpson Penn of Lawrence/Morgan co Alabama, thus related to stephen Penn and Stephen Chandler Penn of the same area. At least one of them fought in the Am Reveloution (verified, SAR #126369)
Most of nmy material is packed up, but I have been downloading bits and pieces from the internet. You may reach me at kono_Palolo@msn.com R. Deese Boise, Idaho
Willing to help and share info, Thanks (note the underscore between kono and palolo

Re: Penn Families - England and America

r_deese — 2011-09-19 01:25:43Z

Re: PENN FAMILY/BLACK

taajwar_penn — 2011-09-16 01:21:13Z

Looking to reunite with my Penn family in Chicago, Illinois, and the State of Georgia. I was born in Detroit Michigan my family has been there for a little over a hundred years.
Yes I have information about Robert, Milton, and sister named Muriel oh Muriel pass in Detroit, Michigan in 2009 and has a child in Dayton, Ohio. My great grandfather is Daniel Webster Penn and your info sound right some moved to Chicago and Detroit but from Georgia in the early 1900’s. I was at the family reunion in Georgia. We had a Penn Family Gazette coming out of Chicago. The Chicago Penn Family has alot more info but are background is mix.

Re: Penn Families - Thomas penn

1_laura_howe — 2011-09-15 09:03:11Z

My name is (Margaret) Laura Howe (nee Penn. My father was Thomas Charles Penn and my grandfather Thomas Samuel Penn from Birkenhead. My grandfather died in 1963/4 at the age of 73. He married Charlotte May Gilby of East Ham London.

Laura

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

lcincotti — 2011-09-14 20:39:08Z

The person who posted about my Great Grandmother Aurrilla Penn is my Cousin.
I am trying to locate more information on the Penn side. Supposedly my GGrandmothers Fathers name was Brazier or Brazieur B Penn and Her Mothers name was Rachel L Simpson or Sampson. Brazier and Rachel were married 07-22-1864
My GGrandmother Aurrilla was born 1879 and passed away 01-01-1917 and she was married to Thomas L Rose. My GGrandfathers sister Lewillda married Captain John Lake Young owner of the famous Pier in Atlantic City.
Other Children born to Brazier and Rachael were:
Rejoice J Penn dob 02-08-1865 dod 12-28-1865
Anna E Penn (married James Yourn) dob 10-26-1866 dod 07-10-1899
Lunetta Penn 03-24-1870 dod 05-10-1913
Wallace F Penn dob 08-06-1872 dod 09-17-1872
Elizabeth E Penn dob 11-21-1877 dob 08-11-1897

Any additional information would be greatly appreciated
Lisa A Cincotti

Re: William Penn descendant?

BarbaraWinfieldPenn — 2011-09-05 17:43:24Z

I too, am looking for more history of the Penn family who lived in or near Buckingshire England. The oldest information that I have is for John William Penn, born about 1876 and died about 1973 in England. He married Alice Baker about 1896. Alice died about 1958 in England. The above people were grandparents of my husband. It was always said that Ian was a direct decendant of William Penn, the Quaker. Somebody in the Penn family had researched a family tree to show their pedigree. I don't know who it was.
My husband, Ian Paul Penn, was born in Hawridge near Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England May 18 1935. His father, George Herbert Penn, born May 3 1910 (I believe in Buckinghamshire, England). Died Oct 6 1988 in Guelph, Ontario Canada. The 5 th of 7 children.
--Charles,b.1898 d.1943 From being gassed in WW I.
--Rose b. 1902 never married.
--Dorothy[Doll]b.Dec 1905 never married.
--Edith b.1907 d.1980.
--Then George.
--Fred b. about 1912, d.about 1975.
--Arthur b. 1917. Died about 1976.
Any further information would be appreciated. Contact me at pennib2@rogers.com
Thankyou. Barbara Penn

Re: Penn Families - England and America

mddorrell — 2011-09-04 20:42:51Z

I have found no real info about the Penn family branch were are talking about further back than James Penn 1729-1814. I never saw anything about him being a sea captain. Where dud you read that? There were those who thought that James Penn was the son of William Penn, the reprobate son of William Penn, the founder, but it couldn't be substantiated. According to my notes, this is where I read that:

Watson's Annals of Philadelphia and Pennsylvania Vol. 1 Ch 5 - History of Monmouth Co. NJ

http://usgwarchives.net/pa/philadelphia/watsontoc.htm

Mary

Re: Penn Families - England and America

cvthompson — 2011-09-04 18:16:57Z

I know you posted years, ago, but Richard Penn's father was James Penn, married to Elizabeth Judith Alloway. If you can answer the question about the grandfather, I'd like to hear from you. According to publications by the State of NJ and others, the grandfather of Richard was a William Penn, sea captain. I am still trying to learn their sources.

Regards,
Carol

Re: OHIO PENN FAMILY

TLClingman — 2011-08-31 03:11:21Z

I would be interested in this information. Please email me at t_glass1976@yahoo.com
Thank you.

Terry

Re: Penn Families - England and America

grannyraine — 2011-08-28 02:26:56Z

Hello, I'm new to going on boards for help. Do you still check this board? Does your offer to help still stand? If you can help I will be grateful. Doing search on Penn for a daughter-in law. Julien Penn 1908-1975, VA.; Father: William Sylvestor Penn 1865, VA.; Father John Penn 1840, Oxfordshire, England. Married to Ann Clark in 1863, VA. John and Ann both from England. My brick wall: John and Ann's parents. thank you, grannyraine