Penn - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Re: Black Penns

gnewgie1 — 2013-06-16 04:53:17Z

Hi there...I'm new to this message board thing, so i'm just checking to make sure we are speaking of the same Penn family....I.G Penn born in Va....Anna Belle Rhodes his wife.

Re: Black Penns

Ednamae07 — 2013-06-16 00:00:24Z

Unfortunately I'm not sure how I'm related to the Penns. The name only came up as my only DNA match a few years ago with Ancestry.com. I will have to dof more digging and get back with regarding the Penns.

Also, I noticed you are researching Chappell. I have a lot of Chappells in my family tree. My mother's maiden name was Chappell. I am missing several Chappells from my maternal lineage. My great grandfather was from South Carolina, but lived in Mississippi. It's most of his children that I am having trouble tracking. What can you tell me about the Chappells you are researching or have researched?

Re: Penn - Creek Nation

Yaya76 — 2013-06-14 04:12:56Z

He is the son of Thomas and Malinda.

Re: Penn - Creek Nation

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-14 02:53:55Z

I assume u mean he was a child of jim and charity penn, from chambers county alabama or was he the child of thomas and malina penn?

Penn - Creek Nation

Yaya76 — 2013-06-13 18:27:55Z

Hi,

I have been working on my family tree, which includes my great grandfather Thomas J. Penn. Family has told me he was Creek Indian. We are trying to find proof of this. I cannot find any information on when and where he died. If anyone can assist with this, it is appreciated.

Info:

Thomas J. Penn
DOB: Mar. 1870
Place: Georgia
Race: Mulatto/Black
Lived: Okmulgee, OK

Re: Penn - Creek Nation

Yaya76 — 2013-06-13 18:26:21Z

He lived and had kids in Okmulgee, OK. He had a second wife by the name of Alice. He has a brother and son also named Thomas Penn. He has many kids. My grandmother told her kids, he was forced out of Georgia(I believe that's the state). He is mixed black with Native American or white. We were always told he was Creek Indian.

Re: Black Penns

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-13 04:05:23Z

Years later i see this post. Wow. Please let me know if i can help.

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-12 14:08:52Z

under Markus you find:

Marcus * 17 FLOURNOY Marcus A 5,81 * 10 May 1853 *
Marcus * * FLOURNOY Marcus A 5,423 * 1 Feb 1854 *
Marcus * * FLOURNOY Marcus A. 5,515 * 8 Jan 1856 Lot 4

Markus m * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale
Markus m 23 FLOURNOY Marcus A 7,174 * 20 Jun 1859 *

If you modify the search to find sales on the same date you find:

Lucy w * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale 3 children
Lucy g 11 FLOURNOY Marcus A 5,81 * 10 May 1853 *
Lucy * * FLOURNOY Marcus A 5,423 * 1 Feb 1854 *
Lucy w * FLOURNOY Marcus A 7,174 * 20 Jun 1859 *
Lucy * * FLOURNOY Marcus A. 5,515 * 8 Jan 1856 Lot 1

Minea (sic) c * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale Lucy's child
Mose b * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale
Nancy w * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale 1 child
Raney c * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale Lucy's child
Richard b * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale
Wilis * * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale
Willis b * FLOURNOY M A 7,437 * 21 Jan 1861 Sale

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-12 13:57:50Z

The name was Flourney. Russell was sold to to Thomas L Penn in 1858. That's the story. The 1856 entry appears to be a family unit. Hopefully we can find that bill of sale.

Russel m 35 FLOURNOY Marcus A 5,81 * 10 May 1853 *
Russell * * FLOURNOY Marcus A 5,423 * 1 Feb 1854 *
Russell * * FLOURNOY Marcus A 6,476 PENN Thomas L 26 May 1858 *
Russell * * FLOURNOY Marcus A. 5,515 * 8 Jan 1856 Lot 1: appears to refer family units.

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-12 13:35:45Z

Hi,

Marcus Penn was the son of Russell Penn, a blacksmith in the 1870 Chambers County, AL Census. I actually located a will indicating Russell was given to the Penn Family. Please tell me how you believe you are related, or spell out your mothers lineage? I believe it may shead light on how our families are connected. I know many of the descendants. I know absolutely nothing about Marcus' mother and I hope that your connection may shead light on that part of the family. I have simply forgotten the last name of the family Russell Came from. I want to say it was Stozier...but I will look and find it.

1870 Chambers County reads:
Russel Penn 52
Lucy Penn 28

Then a few households over you find Marcus Penn:

Marcus Penn 9
Salina Penn 2
Sarah Penn 1
Ann Jones 28
Albert Jones 6
Nancy Jones 1

1880 Census reads:
Russell Penn 55
Marcus Penn 19
Sarah Penn 10
Henrietta Penn 8

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Ednamae07 — 2013-06-11 12:32:16Z

I've hit a brick wall. The relation is probably on my mother's side. I had my DNA done with Ancestry.com several years before the new DNA program. A person identified as "Marcus Penn" resulted in a strong match (1st or 2nd cousin). Over the years, I've sent over a dozen messages to the person through Ancestry and no one responds. The person could be deceased. There are several gaps and few people I've been able to speak with in my family.

I will have to continue digging until I can connect the dots. I also discovered there were Black Penns living in Missouri. Can you share your tree and/or also tell me if you know of any black Penns in Missouri?

Re: Penn - Creek Nation

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-11 06:33:24Z

Thomas J Penn sounds familiar. what else do you know about him?

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-11 06:30:40Z

Yes, Marcus Penn married Winny Cain in Limestone County. i have the old info. I'll have to dig it up. Please share your connection.

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Goodfella062002 — 2013-06-11 06:28:44Z

Yes. He is my great great grandfather. Marcus Penn was originally from Chambers County, AL, but lived much of his life and died in Limestone County, AL.

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Ednamae07 — 2013-06-09 02:12:35Z

Thanks, Did he marry? If so where there children and where?

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Yaya76 — 2013-06-08 02:41:51Z

While researching my Penn connection, I found Marcus Penn on an 1880 Census in Limestone, Alabama. Father Russell Penn.

Re: Irvine Garland Penn

gnewgie1 — 2013-05-25 15:30:03Z

YES...I found her ggrand son in calif, there are other family members that I have tried to contact but with no luck

Re: My family are the Black Penn''s

Ednamae07 — 2013-05-24 17:50:30Z

Has anyone found a Marcus Penn that lived in Limestone, Alabama? I have a strong DNA match this family and haven't been able to get a response. This match was discovered several years ago - not recent. any info. helpful.

Re: william penn genealogy

dreynoldsuk — 2013-05-06 20:19:36Z

Hi,
thanks for contacting me.
I have hit the biggest, strongest, brick wall with George Penn Hamilton. I have his marriage certificate, a photo and a sample of his handwriting, his acting career as mentioned in The Stage, but cannot find his birth or death. He does not appear in any census' either.
I hope you are related and can shed some light on this very elusive character.
Diane Reynolds (nee Hamilton)

Re: william penn genealogy

nikiroberts1 — 2013-05-06 15:52:57Z

Diane, please email me. I think we are related through Penn Hamilton. My mother has photos and his death cert. Niki

PENN Nathan J 1868-1932

t42RushSprings — 2013-04-28 12:29:16Z

PENN Nathan J 1868-1932

I photographed this gravestone in the Rush Springs Cemetery, Grady Co., Oklahoma . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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PENN Nannie R 1863-1949

t42RushSprings — 2013-04-22 12:29:17Z

PENN Nannie R 1863-1949

I photographed this gravestone in the Rush Springs Cemetery, Grady Co., Oklahoma . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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PENN Mildred D 1919-1919

t42RushSprings — 2013-04-16 13:29:06Z

PENN Mildred D 1919-1919

I photographed this gravestone in the Rush Springs Cemetery, Grady Co., Oklahoma . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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PENN Matttie 1869-1930

t42RushSprings — 2013-04-11 15:02:05Z

PENN Matttie 1869-1930

I photographed this gravestone in the Rush Springs Cemetery, Grady Co., Oklahoma . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records.

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Re: Penn/Bretton in New England states

belladoli — 2013-03-21 07:08:33Z

send me your email, we are related...I'll send you an invite to my tree, the Penn-Giles tree. My name is Stephanie Penn :-) I was born in Plymouth and grew up on the Cape. My father was William Pann, uncle is Robert Penn, grandmother was Mildred Penn, her husband was Wm Conrad from CT. Uncle Bob has been in FL for ages, as was I after Cape, now I'm in PA. I have Arthur and Florida in my tree and my mom remembers them. funny. sorry I didn't see this earlier...??? small world..in fact I just found cousins I never knew about on the Giles side...
my email is belladoli@yahoo.com

Re: Penn Family Tree

HaroldLarson77 — 2013-03-14 00:33:34Z

Susan,
You have a lot of into and some of it I did not have. Thanks.
Harold

Re: Penn Family Tree

HaroldLarson77 — 2013-03-14 00:31:47Z

Yes, you have the correct Penn. I have not checked out the other names and sources you listed. I am trying to have the Maryland Genealogical society do further checking for me.
Harold
PS Thanks for writing.

Re: Penn Family Tree

DickBoggs — 2013-03-03 15:47:59Z

Just stumbled across your note.
Q:I have John Penn 1800 Maryland - 1879 Knox Co., Oh. wife Mary Chamblin 1803 Va. - 1844 Oh.
Are we talking about the same people?

PENN Herbert I 1887-1892

t42PleasantPoint — 2013-02-23 23:11:24Z

PENN Herbert I 1887-1892

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Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

theseltine17 — 2013-02-06 00:51:11Z

Joann
I don't have documentation, but I strongly suspect that your John Richard PENN was the son of Richard PENN of Maryland and Catherine MOULDER, daughter of Johann and Susannah SWINGLE.
My ancestor William who was apparently his brother.
There were also sisters Mary (Hopper), Nancy (Barcroft), and Susannah (Hopper).
Have you any further information or leads?

Re: Yes, William Penn Has Living Descendants

clivecowling12 — 2013-02-01 20:30:26Z

Doing family tree of the Cowlings & Penns...my Aunt in her 80's say's she recalls her mother (my Grandmother) telling her they were related to William Penn the Quacker..thats what she believes...I however..do not....still, truth is stranger than fiction I recall..!!

PENN George B 1886-1966

t42Benbrook — 2013-01-11 00:28:01Z

PENN George B 1886-1966

NormanGuiling photographed this gravestone in the BenBrook Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 228,952 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

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Re: William Penn descendant?

genstore99 — 2013-01-08 14:43:49Z

I, too, grew up hearing that we were related to William Penn. I have yet to be able to find the connection, but I'm continuing to dig! I'm guessing I'm not a direct decendant, but maybe a distant cousin.

My great great grandfather was James Penn (Sept. 1842 England - 12-9-1880). His father was William Penn(born 1817 England). This is all I've been able to trace, since I don't have access to any of the overseas files here on ancestry. Would LOVE to figure this out!!

Holly

Jersey Penn

genstore99 — 2013-01-08 14:37:20Z

Does anyone have any information on a Jersey Penn? I found him on the 1870 Virginia-Alexandria-Jefferson- Census... page 16, in the dwelling listed right above my great great grandparents, James and Emma Penn. I am wondering if this Jersey Penn could be a brother of James.

thanks!

Holly

Stuart C. Penn of Detroit, MI 1944

drbrownlee — 2013-01-06 06:25:26Z

Stuart is pictured in the 44-A class yearbook of Bruce Field in Ballinger, Texas. He is a flight training cadet. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Re: Lemuel and Hester Strouse Penn

cowhaus — 2013-01-03 00:24:56Z

Your work on Lemuel Penn is amazing. Very nice work. I don't know the parents of either Lemuel or Hester, sorry. Since posting this question, I have learned more about Mary Ellen Penn and her husband, James Forrester. In your information about that part of the family, there is an error - Hester Jane did not marry a "mr sense" of sistersville, wv. Margaret Mae married William Spence and lived in Sistersville, WV - they both died there. Margaret is my ggrandmother. Thanks for sharing.

Re: Lemuel and Hester Strouse Penn

cowhaus — 2013-01-03 00:24:53Z

PENN Carlton B and Myrtle A

t42Benbrook — 2012-12-29 16:58:04Z

PENN Carlton B and Myrtle A

NormanGuiling photographed this gravestone in the BenBrook Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 228,862 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

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PENN Ollie Mae 1889-1948

t42Benbrook — 2012-12-29 16:57:52Z

PENN Ollie Mae 1889-1948

NormanGuiling photographed this gravestone in the BenBrook Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 228,862 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Penn/Bretton in New England states

djutras45 — 2012-12-29 16:40:29Z

Does anyone have any information on the Penn or Bretton Families in CT, MA, RI...new england states? My grandfather was Arthur Penn and my grandmother was Florida Bretton (sp?) Penn. They lived in Moosup, CT and Hartford, CT. My grandfather had at least 2 brothers; Edmund and Lawrence. My grandmother had at least one sisten, Yvonne. My great grandfather Bretton lived in Moosup, CT.

Re: Lemuel and Hester Strouse Penn

joshualeepenn — 2012-12-12 17:25:56Z

They did have a child named Mary Ellen Penn. Here is more information: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/c/c/Tracey-J-Mc...

do you by any chance know who the parents of Lemuel L Penn and/or Hester Strouse are?

James Penn born 1798 Shoreditch, St Leonards, Middlesex

een1 — 2012-12-10 13:53:46Z

I have traced my Penn family back to a James Penn (trade Silversmith) born 3rd Jan 1798 Shoreditch,St Leonards,Middlesex.His parents were Samuel and Sarah Penn,and his sister was Maria Penn born 3rd Dec 1795 Saint Clement Danes Westminster,London.Samuel was a gentleman's servant and had died by 1811 ,last address was Nobel street St Lukes.
James Penn died 1843 Islington. He was married to Harriet Susan Smith born 1799, they married on the 13th Oct 1821 St Annes,Soho,Westminster. They had the following children, James William born 3.11.1824 Clerkenwell,Middlesex,(My Great,Great Grandfather), Henry John born 18.10.1828 Pentonville,Harriet ?born about 1826, Ann Louisa born 8.5. 1834 London,and Isabella born 1836 died Nov 1852 of Typhoid.
Does anyone know anything about this family?

Re: William Penn descendant?

xxhorse11 — 2012-12-05 21:24:22Z

I am a descendant of William Penn.

Re: John Penn & Lucy Granville

JaneDebenport — 2012-12-03 13:52:15Z

The first time I encountered the Granville and Wyche information connected to the Penn family was in a family newsletter called "Pen Pals" when I first began working on genealogy 25 or 30 years ago. I have never been able to find any information that would support that information. If anyone does, I would be very pleased to see it!

Re: John Penn & Lucy Granville

stphilipsrector — 2012-12-03 03:20:26Z

Can you provide documentation for this lineage?

Augusta Penn b about 1827 Ohio Married James Leach in Tx

kerenscutie — 2012-11-06 18:41:20Z

I can't find her parent's at all. Any help would be greatly appreciated.Her father was born in Missouri and her mother in Ohio.

They had 3 children that I can find.

Her husband was a teacher and they both died in Erath County, Texas

Thanks!
Suzanne Tarkington

Family history

dottypenn — 2012-10-23 19:24:40Z

Grandparent Rachel Penn, lived with Suenalis and Moyer on Chester

Searching descendants of Rachel Penn who lived on Chester Knob,in Martinsville, Va, with her daughter Suenalis and Son in law Moyer.

Re: Gabriel Jackson Penn son of Wilson Penn, son of Philip Penn of Virginia

Kellydeanking — 2012-10-19 02:48:52Z

Phillip & Lucinda Penn were my great grandparents more than a few times over. I could never find out anything about Phillip's parents until now. Thanks so much for sharing this information. Robert (son of Phillip) married Sarah Clark, they are my family line as well, & ended up in Williamson County, Tennessee. I have the children of Phillip & Lucinda as: Robert, Phoebe, Sally, Edmund, & Lucindy.
Thanks again, Kelly

Re: Christian Penn, arrived Plymouth 1623

eGENEee — 2012-10-01 23:17:12Z

This page has some interesting history re: the Plymouth colonists, including the Anne passengers:

http://www.histarch.uiuc.edu/plymouth/townpop.html

it might be helpful to know whether Christian Penn had to work for the common good or was a "particular."

This also states that John Oldham had nine others with him, but doesn't name names.

Re: Christian Penn, arrived Plymouth 1623

eGENEee — 2012-10-01 22:13:51Z

I was thinking that if there is a documented Penn line, then the DNA testing would be able to show whether a descendant matched that line. I know that it can't get into specific names, dates, etc.

If records don't exist and DNA testing is out, then I can't think of how you would determine her heritage.

I do know that "making matches" causes all sorts of problems and inaccuracies -- i.e. finding a woman who "fits" by name or timeline.