Sir Charles PERCY, bro. of Lord Northumberland, and Sir Richard PERCY of that ilk, commanded English troops in Ireland in 1601. Was one of them the ancestor of the PERCYs of Ballintemple, Kings Co. Ireland? Did Sir Charles (d. 1628) have an illegitimate son to whom he left property in Ireland? Does a copy of a will exist for either man? Or a grant of land in Ireland? Any information will be very welcome.

Just a long shot that youre still interested in the Percys after all of these years. Wondering what you might have found about Colonel Henry Percy of King Charles Army, described as the natural son of Sir Charles Percy. Henry is said to have inherited Ballintemple which was later passed to his son Richard.

Ray

Hi Ray,

That's not a long shot --- it's a sure bet. I've been at this for almost 35 years, and have no plans to stop! :-) I'd be delighted to have any new clues about the Percys.

Since that post, I've collected some differing Percy of Ballintemple pedigrees. None is much help, and there are some glaring errors.

I've found wills and other documents relating to Jonas of Ballintemple, and to his maternal relatives (Padfield), but never a mention of his father. Frustrating. (Wonder where the name "Jonas" comes from?)

By whom is Col. Henry described as the natural son of Sir Charles, and said to have inherited, and to have had a son named Richard? I think that I've heard that version of the ancestry, but I haven't seen any evidence. I did try to find a will for the Sir Charles Percy who died in 1628, but no luck. If he bequeathed land in Ireland, I believe the will would have been filed in Canterbury.

The 1815 pedigree filed in connection with the grant of arms to John Percy (which may be the earliest of the ones I've seen), says that Richard was "Descended of the House of Northumberland, and came to Ireland as a Colonel in the Army." Cromwell's army? I don't see him on any lists.

Dear Peggy

I'm a descendant of Rev William A Percy, Rector of St Georges, Carrick on Shannon from about the 1860's to the 1880's. One of his daughters, Anne Maragret Percy, married my G G Grandfather, Dr Zachariah Johnson, surgeon of Kilkenny, in 1850. I have a copy of their marriage registration. Also have a note sent by relatives who visited Ireland & copied notes from the Church of Ireland records which indicated that William A Percys's father was Henry Percy. Further back from that, I've had to rely on what other posters have said.

Here's an entry I found a few days ago. I've not only been trying to contact you but have also been trying to find Eleanor Donaldson (from your other email address,it sounds like you're out boating most of the time!-- I own an American yacht which sailed from Florida 2 years ago & I bought it here in Australia).

This posting from Eleanor is worded in such a way that it would appear that she's copied it from an older record. The wording makes it sound authentic. By good fortune, I came across a photo of the tomb of Sir Charles Percy in St Peters in Dumbleton, Gloucestshire. I contacted an Adrian Phillips there who put me onto a woman in Australia who is probably going to introduce me to Eleanor Donaldson this week (she spoke to Eleanor only last week).

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# ID: I1361
# Name: Henry Percy
# Given Name: Henry
# Surname: Percy
# Prefix: Col.
# Sex: M
# Note:

Sir Charles Percy (d.1628),younger brother of Henry 9th.Earl of Northumberland (1564-1632),had no legal issue,but he left his estates of Ballintemple,King's Co. to his natural son Henry Prcy,who was Colonel in the Army of King Charles 1st. and in the habit of coming to Ireland to raise recruits for his Majesty and serving him in every way he could.
He came to Ireland after the King's death.

# Change Date: 9 FEB 2002 at 15:41:44

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My g grandfather was William Percy Johnson, son of Anne Margaret Percy & Zachariah b 1854. He came to Australia in the 1880's. It's been quite a job tracking the family history as he separated from his Anglo-French Mauritian wife in about 1901 & was hardly heard of again. We dont even know where he's buried though we think he had another family. Much of the family history was not passed on & he probably knew little of his mother anyway as she'd separated from his father when he was very young.

Until recently we knew virtually nothing of Anne Margaret Johnson nee Percy apart from her marriage & the fact that she had 2 children with Zachariah. In the past 6 months we have found via the magic of Google, Ancestry.com & email contacts, that she separated from Zachariah not many years into the marriage, had an illegitimate child to a William Sandys Browne. Browne died soon after & she went to England where she took up with an already married doctor who had 3 kids. She & this doctor had 2 more boys & in 1878, they migrated to New Zealand. She died in 1915, is buried in Christchurch, just around the corner from my daughter's mother in law. My wife & I were in NZ a month ago & visited a descendant of Anne's from her partnership with the other doctor & also visited her grave.

I can be contacted at rayjohnson@austarnet.com.au or rayjohnson43@gmail.com.

I'm a semi retired doctor living in Queensland & finally have the time to pursue this addictive pastime.

Ray

PS Have come across a reference to a research paper which I've yet to access. You may know of it. It seems that it might throw some light onto the problem. It's by Mark Nicholls "As Happy a Fortune as I Desire: the Pursuit of Financial Security by the Younger Brothers of Henry Percy, 9th Earl of Northumberland.

Peggy

Just to let you know I've made contact with Eleanor Donaldson. We plan to exchange information. Have you ever contacted her privately?

Ray