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Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

susanstephenson19851990 — 2012-05-15 19:29:32Z

sorry its taken so long to reply Margaret but i,m afraid i havent been on ancestry for a while Very nice to hear from you kind regards susan stephenson nee pipe

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

peterofware24 — 2012-04-24 10:07:06Z

Hi Margaret,
Thanks for confirming that we have your mother's details correct. According to FamilyTreeMaker it means that your are my 8th cousin once removed!
Regards,
peter

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

lizamag54 — 2012-04-24 08:34:16Z

Hello,
I am Margaret, daughter of Lily (Pipe) and Robert Brydon. I'm afraid I don't know anything about John Pipe and family, but can confirm the info you have about Lily.
Regards Margaret

Re: Ronald Joyce Pipe

michaelpipe — 2011-08-13 08:04:36Z

Hi Paul, Thanks for that information. Are you related? I was interested as someone was researching a book on Burnham and local characters such as Ronald Joyce Pipe (Senior) at Tucker's Boatyard, and his son Ronald until now not found.

I would also be interested in anything further you have on this line to compare with my findings.

Regards
Michael CM Pipe

Re: George Wesley Pipe & Rose Pullar

michaelpipe — 2011-08-13 08:03:53Z

Gordon,
I will need an address to post the papers to you.
Michael

Re: Alice Wilgress Pipe b1893 Bermondsay

peterofware24 — 2011-01-29 11:52:55Z

Sorry no. I used to have Ancestry.co.uk subscription but not currently. Is this Samuel W P son of Thomas Wilgress Pipe and Mary Ann Pratt? I have this couple but only two children (Eliza Wilgreess Pipe and Adelaine Elizabeth Wilgress Pipe). I still think it is a strange curiosity how these names Wilgress and Keeble have continued down the years from the mid 1700s to the present day - did you know that they were taken from the names of Sam Pipe's parents in law (he married in 1745)?

Re: Alice Wilgress Pipe b1893 Bermondsay

jakirkman99 — 2011-01-23 00:36:17Z

1855 born Bermondsay. Do you know anyone who can work their way through american databases as the info may be there.

Re: Alice Wilgress Pipe b1893 Bermondsay

peterofware24 — 2011-01-22 17:57:33Z

Hi,

Sorry I can't help with the descendants but I was interested to know which Samuel Wilgress PIPE married Eliza Scudds, can you let me know his DOB, I have 1838, 1861 and 1867.
Regards,
Peter

Alice Wilgress Pipe b1893 Bermondsay

jakirkman99 — 2011-01-19 06:06:14Z

I am trying to trace information on Alice. B1893 bermonday, UK married Ernest Arthur Gallop in 1922 and so I have been told, moved to the US. Her niece would like to find out information on her decendents. Parents Samual Wilgress Pipe and Eliza Margaret Scudds

Re: Cecil Robert Pipe born Hartismere 30/07/1909

lambpipe — 2010-12-22 17:10:02Z

Hi Michael,
Yes Cecil Robert married Olive Queenie M Taylor (1911-1995)in the Hartismere district in 1933. Marina is the eldest but has one brother and 3 sisters born between 1935 and 1945. By the way she has one remaining living uncle not on your list named Ronald

Cheers
Colin

Re: Cecil Robert Pipe born Hartismere 30/07/1909

michaelpipe — 2010-12-18 03:31:40Z

Hi Colin,

Is that the one who has a couple of siblings b 1937/38 in Hartismere? I had Cecil Robert married to Olive Taylor, with two daughters & one son.

Michael

James Pipe m Phoebe Smith 02/10/1806, Bruisyard, Suffolk

lambpipe — 2010-12-17 17:49:44Z

Does anyone know of the parentage of this particular James Pipe? I am wondering if it is James Pipe b 1782, died 1812 (both Badingham) as I can only find one child- James Smith Pipe b 1807 in Bedfield. Badingham and Bruisyard are quite close together.

Re: Cecil Robert Pipe born Hartismere 30/07/1909

lambpipe — 2010-12-17 17:41:34Z

Many thanks, Michael. I am in contact with his eldest daughter Marina, we have called each other 'Cousin' for some years! Now I can link her to the Pipe family and have told her she is my 8th cousin once removed.

Thomas John Wilgress Pipe

VeronicaMoloney53 — 2010-12-05 16:26:07Z

There seems to be much confusion about the date & place of my great grandfather T.J.W.Pipe, son of John Wilgress Pipe and Ann Fuller. The options are: 27 Jan 1839 or 1840 in Hoxton or Maidstone or even Bromley Kent (census 1851). 22 Nov. 1857 St. Botolph's, Bishopsgate or 23rd Feb. 1845 Walworth St. Peter, Surrey.
I hope someone can help me to clarify the correct dates and places.

Re: Cecil Robert Pipe born Hartismere 30/07/1909

michaelpipe — 2010-12-04 22:39:51Z

I think this is how it goes:
Father was Robert Pipe, b Stradbroke, birth reg Sept Qtr 1885. Mother Ellen Elizabeth Briggs, b abt 1888 at Alburgh, Norfolk marriage licence issued 4th Nov 1908 (Suffolk Record Office, Ipswich, ref FB133/D3/7).

Siblings of Cecil Robert:
Violet Ellen, b 1911
George R, b 1912
Rose L, b 1914
May E, b 1919
Primrose E, b 1920
Lily E D, b 1922
Robert A J, b 1923
Harold F, 1926

Cecil Gordon is a very distant cousin.
I think this is correct, but welcome corrections.

Michael Pipe

Cecil Robert Pipe born Hartismere 30/07/1909

lambpipe — 2010-12-03 12:13:08Z

Please can anybody help me with the parentage of Cecil Robert Pipe, born Hartismere, Suffolk on 30th July 1909 and died in Ipswich District of Suffolk May 1988. I do not have access to the 1911 census which might help.
I suspect he might be related in some way to Cecil Gordon Pipe b c1885 Tannington, Suffolk, died Hartismere District, Suffolk in 1963.

HENRY WILLOUGHBY PIPE

brpipe — 2010-09-07 10:22:13Z

Dear All,

There are three world war 1 medals (the 1914/15 star , the British war medal and the Victory medal) and the memorial plaque (more commonly called the dead mans penny) all assigned to enlisted serviceman HENRY WILLOUGHBY PIPE service number 15105, from the 11th battalion, the Suffolk regiment, all on sale on eBay as one lot at http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110...

This is not my sale but I thought it may be of interest to one of you, on this list, that is from the Suffolk Pipe family.

Price at 13:20 (GMT -2) on 7/9/10 was 205 GBP but reserve has not been met and there are 5 days to go!

I am from the Somerset Pipe family.

Best regards,

Brian Pipe.

Re: Pipe family Moreton 1922

peterofware24 — 2010-07-23 08:24:36Z

Just to add to Michael's note, the four generations back - father, grandfather etc. were all called John Wilgress Pipe, the earliest being born in 1753 - the first of this name. His maternal grandmother was Deborah Wilgress(b c1700) which is where the name came from. His maternal grandfather was Keeble Chandler(born c1700), the name Keeble was also used in the PIPE family up to the present day, there were and are several "Keeble Wilgress PIPEs" - very odd that the name has been carried forward for over 300 years.
Regards,
Peter

Re: Pipe family Moreton 1922

michaelpipe — 2010-07-19 12:00:25Z

I may have them - John Leslie Pipe married Louisa Edith Roberts 11th Sept 1922 Wirral RD. They lived somewhere in Wirral at least until 1925 when a daughter was born.
John Leslie Pipe's father was John Wilgress Pipe, b Preston 1869, his father (also John Wilgress Pipe) being born 1823 in Grundisburgh, Suffolk.
Need anything else?

Michael

Re: Pipe family Moreton 1922

romi999 — 2010-07-19 09:47:30Z

No sorry, I am doing some research on an album I bought and only have an address. Fothersley, Glebelands Rd., Moreton. Marked AR 1922.

Re: Pipe family Moreton 1922

michaelpipe — 2010-07-19 02:26:18Z

Any names or ages?

Michael

Pipe family Moreton 1922

romi999 — 2010-07-18 15:54:01Z

Is anyone researching this family?
I think Moreton is in the Wirral...? Anyway it is Glebelands Rd., Moreton.
Thank you
Helen

John Clifford Pipe

michaelpipe — 2010-07-18 07:52:19Z

John was born 1890 in Lowestoft, Suffolk, parents Edgar Pipe & Annie Upton Fletcher. John married Vida Hammond, and then divorced 1932. After this he had a son David (1935)in Ipswich, Suffolk, mothers maiden name Furley, but I can't find a marriage.
Does anyone know anything about this second wife? Any information appreciated.

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-05-21 15:03:22Z

Its the same Stanley must have put the incorrect date down as 1926 but do have him on my genesreunited site born 1928 many thanks susan

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

michaelpipe — 2010-05-21 07:58:20Z

Hello Susan,
I do have a Stanley Pipe with that GRO reference (vol 10a Page 1280) but the year is 1928. The parents are John Pipe (son of Edgar), and Elizabeth Ann Burrell. This Stanley, I think went on to marry Vilma Parmley in 1953 in Eton Reg District.
So I am not sure where your other Stanley came from.

Regards
Michael

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-05-21 06:07:37Z

hello regards stanley I have a birth entry 10a 1280 sunderland have a look it may be I have the incorrect info kind regards susan.

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

michaelpipe — 2010-05-19 00:34:09Z

Susan, the Stanley who you mention - I can't find any trace of him. What do you know about him?

Michael

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-05-18 15:28:20Z

have not tried that site yet but will do kind regards susan

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-05-18 15:26:30Z

Many thanks to peter and michael for you information regards edgar 1857 sisters and also regards winifred now have a lead will follow up kind regards susan

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

michaelpipe — 2010-05-18 13:49:54Z

Hi Susan,
Margaret is unmarried in the 1891 census. There is a marriage in Jun Qtr 1897 in the Newcastle T Reg District Vol 10b Page 174 between Margaret Pipe & Joseph Blakey.
In the 1901 census this pair appear living in Heaton, Northumberland, and Margaret, now Blakey, is born in Stradbroke, Suffolk, so I think it is safe to say that this is her.
According to the 1911 census, there were no children from this pair, but there was one 20 year old daughter, Winifred, who used the name Blakey, and was presumably in the 1891 census the 5 month old Winifred Pipe who was living with grandparents George & Sarah. Winifred also uses the name of Blakey in the 1901 census.
There is a death for Margaret Blakey, Northumberland South Reg Dist, age 73, in 1940, and for Joseph in 1955 age 83 in sane district.
There is also a death record for Winifred Blakey in Newcastle 1918 age 28, correct place & age, but I cannot confirm that it is the right one.

Ellen – lost track of her after 1891, single at that stage.

As for Sarah, the last I have for her is the 1911 census when she is also still single, age 46, and working in Sunderland as a domestic cook. There is a possible death for her, still as Sarah Pipe, in Newcastle Reg Dist 1943 age 79 – age about 2 years out, but errors do happen.

Hopefully this gives you a start.

Michael

Re: Edgar Pipe 1857

peterofware24 — 2010-05-18 11:42:36Z

Hi Susan,

I am a bit confused as to whom you are talking about. Are you referring to Edgar's sisters or children. I assume you are referring to his sisters, since I do have Margaret having an illegit. daughter Winifred (28 Oct 1890, Sunderland). I have no children for Sarah. Ellen appears to also have an illegit. so, Samuel in 1894. I have no records for husbands for any of the 3.
Have you tried Jon Pipes database -http://www.pipej.utvinternet.ie/
Regards,
Peter

Edgar Pipe 1857

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-05-08 15:30:00Z

I would like to know if anyone has any information about the spouses of Margaret Pipe Sarah Pipe and Ellen Pipe. I believe margaret and sarah both had children out of wedlock Stanley and Winifred.I know stanley died aged 4 but cant find any info on winifred. Kind regards susan

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

peterofware24 — 2010-05-01 13:20:26Z

Thanks Michael, I shall correct my records
P

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

michaelpipe — 2010-05-01 13:13:20Z

Hi Peter,

Stanley was born Sunderland 25 Apr 1928, and married aged 24 on 14 Feb 1953 Buckinghamshire. There os no record of a death between 1928 & 1937, and no sign of a birth around 1937. As far as I know, Stanley then had at least two sons, but I cannot substantiate this - possibly Canada.

Michael

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

peterofware24 — 2010-05-01 11:43:51Z

Hi Michael,
Thought I might see something from you on this.

Interesting that you think all 5 survived, at present we have two Stanleys, born 1928 and 1937, I assume that this was correct and the earlier one died.
Thanks for the information,
Regards,
Peter

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

michaelpipe — 2010-05-01 10:44:46Z

May I throw a comment in here regarding the following quote from your message:
"the other 3 children I have for John and Elizbeth Burrell are John W born 1924 Robert born 1926 and Stanley born 1928 I assume these children died very young, they were the other 3 that I mentioned."

The total number of children was 5. John William, Robert E, Stanley, James Edgar, & Gordon

As far as I was aware, all five were alive and well and were all married. I have not put details here as they may well still be living.

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

peterofware24 — 2010-04-29 13:43:53Z

Thanks Susan,
Adds something to the overal picture. I see that Colehamds still exists in Shrewsbury.

Regards,
Peter

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-04-28 17:56:47Z

Hello Peter the other 3 children I have for John and Elizbeth Burrell are John W born 1924 Robert born 1926 and Stanley born 1928 I assume these children died very young, they were the other 3 that I mentioned. I can confirm that Lily born 1928-2009 was the 1 and only child of James and Ellen the death appeared in the Sunderland Echo 23/10/2009 she died 20/10/2009 at Portland Nursing home Shrewsbury 1 time owner of Coleham Hardware. She married Robert Brydon 1930 born Sunderland and had 2 Children Margaret 1957 and Neil 1960. I was hoping they might see this post and reply,as they might know more about our family tree. Lily was born the year before my father John James.I know this was true the paper named ellens mother and father and mentioned where in sunderland they came from. Hope this is of some use for you kind regards susan

Re: JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

peterofware24 — 2010-04-27 13:59:41Z

Hi Susan (from email address),

I have James married to Ellen Davidson, Nelly and Ellen are essentially the same but my reference has the extra "d" as you can see. I have 9 children for Edgar and Agnes, including James and John. I do not have any children for James, I have checked for Lily on Jon Pipe's database without success. Do you have details of Lily, or are you still unsure about her being James daughter?
John married Elizabeth Ann Burrell as you say but I only have children as James Edgar, Gorden and Stanley. Can you tell who the other three are please. What else do you need to know? I can tell you that these PIPEs are descended from the main Suffolk PIPEs line which goes back to (probably)to Richard born in 1327. The "probably" is because there are a couple of generations missing between Richard and Robert - whose son John was born in 1450.
Regards,
Peter

JOHN AND JAMES PIPE Born Sunderland Parents Edgar Pipe and Agnes Cowe Crombie

susanstephenson19851990 — 2010-04-23 19:13:32Z

I would like to find out any more info about my grandfathers 2 youngest brothers. They were James Pipe born 1895 and married ellen davison I beleive they had 1 daughter Lily and John 1893 he married Elizabeth Burrell and had about 6 children. My dad was names after both brothers he was names John James Pipe born 1929 many thanks

Re: Jeremiah Pipe b 1684

VeronicaMoloney53 — 2009-04-19 11:06:21Z

Thank you to all who have replied.
Veronica (nee Pipe)

Re: Jeremiah Pipe b 1684

peterofware — 2009-04-19 10:42:58Z

Hi All,

I have 11 children for Jeremiah and Susan, MIchaels list plus Charles (b1734), Elizabeth(b1736) and Susan (b1738). THese last three, I think, came from Denis Pipe and I don't have baptisms or birth locations for them.
Regards,
Peter
PS As Michael implies we have Susan's first child born in 1713when she was 19 - which seems more likely.

Re: Jeremiah Pipe b 1684

susanstephenson19851990 — 2009-04-16 18:25:37Z

regareds Jeremiah i am also researching the pipe family and dont seem to have 22 childred for jeremiah and susan lambert but thats not so say they didnt. My link comes from William 1714 son of the above kind regards susan stephenson (Nee Pipe)

Re: William Henry Pipe b. 1843 ???

denesepipe — 2009-03-10 22:13:25Z

Oh my, glad he was on the right side of the law...:) Thank you so much, my husband will get a kick out of reading this when he arrives home...

Regards,
Denese

Re: William Henry Pipe b. 1843 ???

michaelpipe — 2009-03-10 22:09:25Z

More on William Edward, the father:

Proceedings at the Old Bailey:
WILLIAM PIPE, witness name in trial of WILLIAM STRATTON, Theft > stealing from master; WILLIAM PORTER, Theft > stealing from master, 1st March 1841.

993. WILLIAM STRATTON and WILLIAM PORTER were indicted for stealing, on the 20th of February, 1/2 ton of coals, value 15s., the goods of Robert William Samson and another, their masters.

MR. BALLANTINE conducted the Prosecution.

CHARLES BUTTIVANT . I am in the employ of Robert William Samson and another, coal-merchants. The prisoners were their wagoner and porter— on the 20th of February I directed a wagon to be loaded, and afterwards saw it loaded, standing in the yard— there were four tons of coals in it— ten sacks were to be delivered at Maryland-terrace, Dover-road, and the remaining thirty at Mr. Nickerson's, of Berraondsey— the wagon returned empty, and went out again.

Cross-examined by MR. PAYNE. Q. Did you see the forty sacks put into the wagon? A. No— I gave directions for four tons of coals to be put in— I did not weigh or measure them, or see them put in— I only saw the wagon when loaded.

THOMAS FOGO BURNEY . I am weigher to the prosecutors. On the 20th of February I weighed forty sacks of coals into a wagon, and delivered them to the prisoners, to be delivered at Mr. Frost's and Mr. Nickerson's.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you see them put in? A. Yes-Pipe and Co. had ordered the coals-they were the persons to whom we sold them— this ticket is one of Pipe and Co.'s— it applies to these coals— it was given out by Buttiman.

CHARLES BUTTIVANT re-examined. This is the ticket relating to these coals-Pipe and Co. purchased the coals of Mr. Samson, and their name was on the wagon— the prisoners were Messrs. Samson's servants.

WILLIAM PIPE . I supply my customers with coals, by giving orders to Messrs. Samson— I gave them orders to supply three tons of coals to Mr. Nickerson, and one ton to Mr. Frost.

Cross-examined. Q. The wagon was yours, we understand? A. No, it was Messrs. Samson's— my name was on it— it screwed on and off— it is a usual thing in the coal trade— I was the seller.

COURT. Q. Are you liable for the whole of the coals, or only for the quantity delivered? A. For whatever quantity was delivered, no more.

MARY ANN FROST . I am the wife of Thomas Frost, No. 18, Mary-land-place, Dover-road. On the 20th of February I received ten sacks of coals from Messrs. Samson's— I saw them delivered— there were other sacks in the wagon— the prisoners are the persons that delivered them.

Cross-examined. Q. Did you measure your coals after they were delivered? A. No— I saw them shot into the cellar— Mr. Frost ordered them of Mr. Pike— I knew nothing of Messrs. Samson.
See original Click to see original

CHARLES NICKERSON . I live in Bermondsey. On the 20th of February some coals were delivered to me by the prisoners— after they were delivered, Stratton came and asked me to come and see the sacks counted— I went, and be counted thirty— he appeared to count right— I saw five empty sacks in the wagon, and five full sacks— I asked Stratton, in Porter's hearing, what those five empty sacks were— he said they were five sacks that he bad left on the road— I also remarked about the five full sacks— he said they were five he had got to leave elsewhere— I gave him 6d. and they went away— when I looked at the coals afterwards, there appeared lets than I thought there should be— I locked the cellar door, and weighed them, on the following day, only those in the dye-house, not those in the house— I found half a ton deficient— there were very few coals in the cellar previously, not a quarter of a hundred weight— we had had a hundredweight in the day before.

Cross-examined. Q. When did these coals come in? A. Between one and two o'clock on Saturday, and I began weighing them about nine o'clock next day, and finished about eleven or twelve— there were some other coals shot into the house— I did not weigh them that morning— I did when the policeman came on the Wednesday following, and they were all quite right.

MR. BALLANTINE. Q. When did you lock your cellar up? A. Within a quarter of an hour of receiving the coals.

WILLIAM DYER . I am servant to Mr. Nickenon. I helped him to weigh the coals on Sunday morning, and found a deficiency of half a ton, or a little better— I knew what coals were in the cellar before.

(The prisoners received good characters.)
STRATTON— GUILTY . Aged 33.
PORTER— GUILTY . Aged 24.
Confined Twelve Months.

Re: William Henry Pipe b. 1843 ???

denesepipe — 2009-03-10 13:52:09Z

Michael, Thank you so much, you have filled in the missing pieces that I had on my tree. I am going to try and trace the family back as far as possible. Once again, thanks for the info.

Regards,
Denese Pipe

Re: William Henry Pipe b. 1843 ???

michaelpipe — 2009-03-10 07:13:11Z

As far as I can tell, your William Henry was baptised 11th Feb 1842 in Middlesex, b Hackney according to the 1851 census ref HO107; Piece: 1478; Folio: 400; Page: 20

You will find his parents are William Edward Pipe, b abt 1814 St George East, Coalmerchant, and Ann Holland, b 1814 Shoreditch, but I haven't found their marriage, presumably before 1837.

Also in 1841 census HO107; Piece 664; Book: 9; Civil Parish: St Mary Islington East; County: Middlesex; Enumeration District: 22; Folio: 27; Page: 4

If you obtained the marriage cert of William Henry & Julia, it will confirm his parents. GRO Ref Dec Qtr 1874 Hackney Vol 1b page 657

Sorry, but I don't have anything else on this line.

Michael Pipe

William Henry Pipe b. 1843 ???

denesepipe — 2009-03-08 21:17:33Z

My husband and I are searching for a William Henry Pipe, married Julia Atterton and had a son, Henry Edward Pipe, who was married to an Eleanor Mary Jones. Henry Edward Pipe had a son, Cuthbert Edward Pipe, who had a son, my husband, John Cuthbert Pipe.

Re: Which William Pipe b c1802-1806?

denesepipe — 2009-03-08 20:36:53Z

We also have a William H. Pipe we think the dob is 1843, he was apparently married to Julia Atterton and had my husband's grandfather, Henry Edward Pipe on 1874, we have been searching for these people for a while and they seem to be missing in action, can't find them anywhere. If you could point us to the right branch of the tree we would really appreciate it.

Regards,
Denese Pipe
designsbydenese@bellsouth.net

Re: Pipe coat of arms

michaelpipe — 2009-02-28 12:24:28Z

A short answer to your question, “no”, there is no 'definitive' Pipe arms.

There is no such thing as a Coat of Arms for a family. Arms could be granted to an individual, which may possibly be hereditary in some instances via a direct line (eldest heir to eldest heir etc).
In the past several arms were granted to various Pipes, all of them originating from the Staffordshire line. There is no evidence that any Pipe from Suffolk had any right to arms, and most of the lines of succession from Stafford appear to be extinct.

The FIRST one that you refer to is one that is touted on the Internet by various irresponsible companies who do absolutely no research to back up their claims. If they did their research they would find that this one was granted to Sir Thomas de la Pipe (Staffordshire) by Edward II around 1320, described as “Azure, crusily 3,3, and Fess Or” in the Parliamentary Roll. This line has no descendants as far as is known, so the arms are extinct.

The arms that are most usually associated with the name of Pipe are others that were granted in Staffordshire and are totally different from those that you describe. The line also became extinct when the only heiress passed her inheritance to the Vernon family, the arms going with it. These arms c 1380 (Azure, crusily, two pipes pileways Or) can be seen at various places in Haddon Hall, Derbyshire, and also in Tong Church, Shropshire, on the tomb of Sir Richard Vernon (d 1467) and Margaret Swynfen his wife, heiress of Sir Robert Pype.

Sir Richard Pipe, Lord Mayor of London, also a descendant of the Staffs Pipes, was granted arms around 1587, but this was his grant, not the Pipe name as a whole.
Another line from Staffs, Pipe-Wolferstan has the right to arms since Jun 8th1776, which also contains Pipe, but that is for one specific line.

The second one that you describe is from “Burke’s General Armory 1848”. The description is:
“Sable, on a bend Or, between two nag’s heads erased Ar, three fleur-de-lis of the first.”
It is attributed to Pipe, Cottenham, Cambridgeshire. This one gave me the run-around for some time, until I finally discovered that it had been attributed incorrectly to Pipe, and was in fact the arms of Pepys, as in Samuel Pepys, who was from Cottenham.