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Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-12-30 22:12:40Z

Hi David

If you contact me direct evelineclarke183@btinternet.com we can discuss how we can help each other.

Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

davidpumphrey500 — 2011-12-30 20:59:40Z

Hi,
I posted a message earlier in 2011 requesting information about the Pomfrey/Pumphrey lineage. I noticed that Eveline has noted that she has details about this family line. If you do not mind, could you contact me so that we might discuss sharing current and past information. I am fascinated with all the family history I have uncovered so far. It pleases me greatly to find that I and my American family are descended from the English people,on both the paternal and maternal sides. I look forward to any contact from others also researching this family.

Thank you,
Dave Pumphrey

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-05-14 07:23:54Z

Hi Mark

Thank you for your input and I am sorry I took so long to answer, but I was doing my volunteer work all day yesterday.

I have a lot of the details from the Pumphrey History which was given to me by my husband's family some time ago, but nothing further back than John 1410 as set out in the Pumfrey Pedigree.

My husband is descended from Elizabeth Pyper Weale through her son Richard Pomfrey alias Weale. I agree with Larry Pumphrey that it is the best possible fit, not only from the details in his book, but added to different parish records, I was able to find. I did not find as many as he did and I couldn't find the will at Hereford Records office, but did find enough to think that it was most probably correct. I worked backwards from George born at Tewkesbury in 1610 who married in Hill Croome and as far as I can tell, everything I found tallies with the book.

I have also done a lot of work on the family of James Pomfrey son of Richard which is Lynn's family. I had all the earlier ones and with help from Lynn and another of James descendants, I have taken James family down to John Lovell Pomphrey born 1820 who married Jane Hodges and had 4 children. Lynn has obviously started with herself, so has even more modern Pomphreys. You do not say which branch of the family you are from, is it from the Newnham ones, or perhaps from the London and East Coast Pumphreys.

My husband has a fifth cousin who is of the belief that as most of the English Pumfreys either lived on the coast or along rivers, that perhaps there are related in some way, ie. the early Pumfreys in Gloucestershire came from the East Coast or maybe even the other way around. I have not found any earlier ones from either side of Britain.

Regards

Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-05-13 15:45:16Z

Hi Mark ,just acknowledging your message ,thank you for the info ,i have read you news paper article on the Pomphrey Family on your lineage and we are related to your Richard Pomfrey of Newnham i know your of the Weale family line ,you still remain family as much as any of us .I am currently Talking to Eveline ,and Anne They have been amazing help and we are doing well with the research ,i hope soon to hear the story of the weale family i had no idea of thier exsistence till i read your story .will speak soon hopefully .Lyn. x

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

mpumphrey_1 — 2011-05-13 02:18:06Z

Hi, A family historian from California, Larry Pumphrey, has published a book called The Pumphrey Pedigree, in which he traces our ancestry and all of its branches back to John Pomfrey of Newnham, whose dates are estimated to be 1410-1472, based on the following earliest reference found to the Pomfrey family in England: "18 November 1472. Executors of the will of John Pomfrey of the parish of Newnham, to wit: Agnes, his widow and William Pomfrey of Little Dean." Larry Pumphrey believes that William was John Pomfrey's son and that Agnes was John Pomfrey's wife. The book contains 664 pp. plus an index, but only the first 31 pp. cover the English Pomfreys, plus a brief index. This first section of the book does include mention of the Weale alias Pomfrey and Pomfrey alias Weale ancestors. The book was available directly from the author for $50 (US)and may be still in print. Larry Pumphrey's address is: 1147 W. Koleeta Drive,
Harbor City, California 90710.

If anyone has any information about Pomfreys in England (or Wales) prior to 1410, I am very interested in your information. Thank you.

Mark Pumphrey
El Paso, Texas
mpumphrey@elp.rr.com

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-04-21 15:12:42Z

HiEveline,this is the only way i can explain the way i worked out the connection so here goes;stoke bishop,westbury on trym gloucestershire;George Pomphrey born 1706 married Marth Lovell,thier children John Lovell Pomphrey born 1738 died abt1762 occ curate,son Matthew Pomphrey born 1754 died abt 1791 occ curate,daughter Martha Pomphrey born 1st april1735 married Ralph Dyer occ Attorney of Bristol,Daughter Mary Pomphrey born 12th july 1737.Daughter Elizabeth Pomphrey born 1748 ,married William Bullock in 1770,Daughter Jane Pomphrey born 1749 married Joseph Austin born 1750.son george Pomphrey born 1733 married Sarah Lewis in 1793 Portishead North Somerset ,he was from st James Bristol,she was from well's.thier children were George Lewis Pomphrey born 1793 he married three times 1st to Sarah Johnson,second to diana Brain,thirdto Sarah Holmes.son Matthew Pomphrey born 1794 married Marth Pritchard.Son William Pomphrey born 1796 married Mary Atherton,Our Lineage.Daughter Martha Pomphrey marriedJoesph Atherton....Matthew Pomphrey that married Martha Pritchard thier children have the Lovell and Austin names which confirms the connection with George and Marta Pomphrey of the early 1700's...Now my concern is thier son George died 1807 around the age of 35 to 40which dont add up unless thier's an error Sarah was born 1770 i'm assuming they were abt the same age i have thier wedding cert but no mention of age on it when George died Sarah remarried to a Thomas Barron of London ,she died 1822.The reason i dont have thier Baptism's is that in early 1700's to late mid 1700's the record's in the Bristol office are not in order and i would have to go thier to search them through,unfortunatly i am of poor health at present and unable to make the journey .I have also an interest in Martha Lovells side she was the niece of John Lovell Clerk and godson to Thomas Barrow of Minster oxfordshire,John Lovell left Land to Martha and his nephew John Watts in Portishead ,i have nothing on her family side but i have a feeling she may come from a family of baroncey and i would love to know the story should this be the case, so you see why i would love to get this sorted so as to know i'm following the right line .Well once again i hope i have'nt done your head in with me going on and on as i do luv the mystery of it all, thank you again for trying to help where possible.Lynn.

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-04-21 15:11:36Z

Dear evalanda, hope you dont mind me asking you for help only you mention your intouch with someone whose been researching into the gloucestershire pomphrey families,if anyone can help i would be greatful.I'm looking for the father and mother of George Pomphrey of st james ,Bristol City ,England born abt 1770 married Sarah Lewis of Well's 1793 they lived in Portishead early 1800's.I have thier family thier on and maybe a generation before them but i need to confirm my detail's. thank you Lynn.

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-04-21 15:11:02Z

Hi eveline,thanks for replying ,greatful for anything if your friend can help ,you see i do have a fair amount of info ,it's just the dates dont tally and i mean alot we actually decened from a Matthew Pomphrey of Newnham his father was Phillip Pomphrey mother Mary Monmoth,his son Matthew married Sarah Abbot 1682 thier son George born 1706 had a son george born 1733 now it's this son george who married sarah Lewis in 1793 i'm having a prob with as thier seems a large age gap unless i'm missing another son somewhere. anyhow greatful for anyhelp should she come across anything similar. Lynn

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-04-21 15:10:11Z

Hi Eveline, thanks for getting back to me ,the last message you sent was frozen ,just caught up with your messages ,please bear with me as i'm useless at using the comp i much prefer to talk.I will do my best to explain my findings ,i have had alot of help from a pomphrey relative in somerset she's been a god send .now back to info this is how we followed the lineage;Georgius Pomphreyof Newnham Married 15th Oct 1580to Elizabeth Malson of Newnham,thier children were Maria 30thdec 1581 our Phillip 4th may 1584 ,Agenta 3rd march 1586 Matilda 21stsept1588 ,Henricus 7th oct 1591,Eleanor 11th sept 1597. Georgius burial 12th jan 1621 all in Newnham.Phillip married Mary Monmoth 17th feb 1630 Newnham Parish ,English Bickner.(notes in latin).thier children Matthew 18th dec 1631 ,william 22nd march 1635 ,george 4th june 1637 ,roger 4th june 1637 mary 13th feb 1642.thier's two mary burials one a widow on the 10th nov 1683 one 28th april 1710 newnham.also a burial of a george pumfrey burial 5th march 1712Newnham.a few other burials also mentioned . now i have Mary Monmonth's parents names ,but back to phillip's son matthew his wife was Hester thier children were Hester bapt,28thapril 1661,John bapt6th oct 1663 ,Elizabeth 9th May 1674 ,AnaBapt5th oct 1670,and then 2 Matthew's one 30th april 1675,burial 4th jan 1677 .then the other Bapt 30th april 1678 died 1738.Father Matthew buried 11th April 1680.Now thier's an Hester Pumphrey burial 1690 down as Mistress /Widow and one a little later for 29th jan 1718.thier's a burial for a John pumphrey which could be the son bureial24th dec 1689 .Now the connection was Matthew and Hester's Daughter Elizabeth she Married Joseph Swaine in Newnham on the 12th oct 1710he was from Bristol city.now the dear friend whose been helping me obtained a will of Matthew Pomphrey of Bristol occ Soapmaker born 30th april 1678 Newnham ,he married Sarah Abbott born 1682 ,theymarried 7th july 1702 st augustine the less gloucestershire they had three children Sarah born 5th june 1705, Hester born 20th nov 1709 and George born 1706.George married Martha Lovell abt 1733 thier children were John Lovel Pomphrey born 1738,martha born 1st april 1735 ,Mary born 12th july 1737 Jane born 1749 and Matthew born 1754 and George born 1733 ,christened 11th june it is this george that married Sarah Lewis that i'm questioning . we have obtaineded the will of both georges and they seem to tie up and we also have the will of Joseph Swaine reason being he was mentioned in Mattew's will as the brotherinlaw with a mention of another brotherin law John Price .you see they all seem to fit in thier's more on the family of george and martha i have right down to our family but thiers a piece missing i'm sure of it they seem to center in the st james area and then westbury and noth somerset .any help much appreciated and if i can help with the many names i have jotted down please ask and i will do my best to help you .hope you understand what i've written as it gets so confusin. Lynn.

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-04-21 15:09:21Z

HI eveline, sorry to hear your friend has illness in the family ,of course I will wait till things improve for her, no probs I've been doing this off and on for 30yrs so untill things get better i will be patient.Now as i said i'm new to the comp so not sure abt the gap so i'll ask my son when he gets home to see if he understands how to do it.otherwise this could be a problem.i can give you my mobile phone no; maybe you could text it to me , if thats not possible we'll think of some think else.07948804794 my no.Many thanks Lynn .Almost forgot,to ask how you fit in to the family tree?.

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-17 14:50:50Z

Hi Lynn

The gaps. When I wrote my name and supplier, I left gaps between my name, the 183, the @bt internet. all you have to do is write it all in the e.mail box with no gaps whatsoever.

My husband is descended from the Pumfreys at Upton on Severn who we have traced back through various spellings of the name to Richard Pomfrey born 1470 who married Elizabeth Pyper Weale in 1510. Your family are also descended from Richard but James the son of his first wife (whose name we are not sure of).

Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-17 07:27:39Z

Hi Lynn
If you don't here from me in the next few days or so, please be patient. My friend has family illness at the moment and cannot cope with both. She is intrigued though and has asked me to send everything to her and she will look at it as soon as she can. In the meantime, here is my e.mail address. It might be easier for you to send anything direct rather than through ancestry. I am going to put yours in a separate family file on my family tree program to see how it pans out, so if I could have yours as well that would be great, all you need is to send an e.mail below. I am having to put a gap in so it passes Ancestry security, you will need to close the gaps.
evelineclarke 183 @ btinternet.com
Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-15 16:30:47Z

Hi Lynn

I have read your e.mail with interest and it all seems to tie in with what we had up to Matthew as we had him dying before 1718. However, we have not found that death and what you have shows that you have put in many hours of hard work.

Just a couple of questions.
1. Do you have an actual baptism date for George c 1770?
2. Do you have a marriage date for George born 1733
3. Did George born 1770 have any elder siblings
4. Why do you think there is another Generation, the gap is only 37 years, which would mean both had to be married at 18 years old.

The gap could be explained by a late marriage for George born 1733 and older siblings for George born 1770.
Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-14 19:41:56Z

Hi Lynn

I have looked at my notes and have also been nudged by my friend. She is happy to do some digging for you, but she needs to know a little more. We are wondering if you are doubtful about the gap between the 2 George's and 60 is a bit old to get married for the first time, just how you managed to link back to Matthew at Newnam.

Our problem is that as far as we have been able to ascertain, the Pomfrey line finished with Matthew dying unmarried sometime before 1718. As Hester died that year and she was the last remaining of this family line. We have not managed to find out what happened to the Newnham home which had been passed down through the eldest male in an unbroken line from 1472.

We do know that the Pumfrey/Pomfrey family of Newnham spread up and down the River Severn, so it is most probably that you do link back to that family but we need to find exactly where you fit in.

Any extra info you can give us would be a great help.

Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-13 18:26:50Z

Hi Lynn

Now that looks much more promising. Can you give me some dates please.

I might have your family in the tree. I have a Matthew christened Newman 18th December 1631 married to Hester Witt. Matthew died in 1680. Hester died 1690. 7 children the last two both being Matthew, the first dying at 4 months old. The second Matthew christened 1678 not sure when he died, but we have before 1718, but that could be incorrect. Especially as he is the right age to be the father of your George born

Matthew Snrs father was Phillip born 3rd May 1584, I know he was married to Mary but not the surname, so if it is your Phillip and Mary you have helped us as well. If this is the family, we join together back in 1510.
Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-13 15:51:02Z

Hi Lynn
I don't have your George in the tree but, although Julie and I have gone back to the 1500s (mainly Julie's hard work), and we do have a lot of side shoots, I haven't put all the detail on to the tree, I started finding it cumbersome. However, I know Julie has it in some sort of order (whether or not it is on a family history file with a search engine I am not sure). She did send me all the details which I saved to my computer, but when it crashed I lost nearly everything.

I will write and ask her today.

Eveline

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2011-04-12 07:47:51Z

Hi David
Sorry I am late in replying, but Ancestry (very unusual for them) did not tell me that anyone had replied to my thread. Unfortunately, you didn't put the year that your Richard was born (or even a circa date, I have 9 Richards in the family tree, so I am not sure which one you are interested in.

I am also in touch with someone who has done a huge study of the Pumfreys in Gloucestershire and surrounding counties, so even if I can't help perhaps she can.

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

lynnjames47 — 2011-03-12 20:44:40Z

if your still in search of info on your family please get intouch i maybe able to help .

Re: Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

davidpumphrey500 — 2011-03-11 22:40:14Z

Hello,
My name is David Pumphrey. I live in Akron, Ohio, USA.
I saw your post concerning the name Pomfrey. I have done some genealogical research and I believe that my family may be descended from a Richard Pomfrey of Newnham, England, born in 1470. Could you please advise as to whom I should contact in the UK, if not you, to gather further information regarding the Pomfrey lineage. I would be very grateful.

Thank you,
David Pumphrey

Re: Pomfrey's of Ireland

2lunar2 — 2011-01-28 16:17:51Z

My Pomfreys lived in Middletown, CT. My great grandfather was Bartholomew Pomfrey. He married Mary Keefe in Middletown, CT in 1849. They had a son named Michael born in 1850 and four daughters: Catherine, Margaret, Honora, and Mary.

Pomfrey/Pumfrey of Newnham Gloucestershire, UK.

Tynycae — 2009-06-17 14:13:02Z

My husband's family are the Pumfreys of Upton on Severn in Worcestershire and we have found a possible link back to the Pomfrey/Pumfrey family of Newnham and Tewkesbury and the Pomfrey alias Weale family also of Newnham.

Richard Pumfrey born c1470 married Elizabeth (Pyper)Weale in 1510.

If anyone has information on this family, I would love to hear from them.

Obit: Bertha B. (Pomfrey) Franck, b.1898 Kingsbury, NY

kttrucking1 — 2006-12-05 18:50:09Z

DELHI, NY — Bertha B. Franck, 106, a 26 year Delhi resident, passed away peacefully Saturday afternoon, Feb. 12, 2005, at Countryside Care Center, where she had been residing for the past seven years.The daughter of the Rev. George and Rachel (Gaynor) Pomfrey, she was born Nov. 17, 1898, in Kingsbury, Washington County.She was married twice, first to Frederick Willets, and later to Edward Franck; both predeceased her.Formerly of Westchester County, Bertha was self-employed for many years in the sale of women’s dresses, and lived in Elmsford until moving to Delhi in 1979, where she was an active and devoted charter member of the Delhi Alliance Church.She was skilled in the now almost "lost art" of tatting and made numerous doilies for her family and friends.Surviving are a daughter and son-in-law, Dorothy and Ralph Partelow of Delhi; a son, Frederick B. Willets of Walton; 10 grandchildren; numerous great-grandchildren; several nieces and nephews.She was predeceased by a sister, Madeline Elliot.Friends are invited to call 4 to 6 p.m. today, Feb. 14, at the Hall & Peet Funeral Home, Delhi, when the family will be in attendance.Funeral services will be conducted at 11 a.m. Tuesday at the Delhi Alliance Church, Meredith Road, by the Rev. David Wheatley, and burial will be later in the Woodland Cemetery, Delhi.Memorial contributions to the Delhi Alliance Church will be appreciated. Arrangements are entrusted to Robert A. Peet, Delhi.

Pomfrey of VA

2006-07-18 14:18:36Z

Ron,
Your father and I are third cousins. His great grandfather George Oscar POMFREY and my great grandmother Ella Jackson POMFREY BAILEY were siblings. Altogether, there were 11 childen in their family from New Kent Co., VA. You may email me for more specifics. The new Kent Historical Society can be very helpful. It is located at the Courthouse in the old jail and use to be open one morning a week. http://www.newkent.net/histsoc.html

Re: ancestry and background of name

cherylallen32 — 2006-01-06 01:18:44Z

Hello Herbert

My great grandmother's name was Mary Ada Pomphrey. Her father, Mathew Pomphrey emigrated to Canada from Clifton, Bristol, England in 1868.

I just thought seeing our ancestors are both from Bristol, we may be related in some way...

Anyway...it has been a long time since you have posted a message...you may have found out some more information by now. If you have, I would love to find out anything I can about the Pomphreys of Bristol.

Thanks
Cheryl
Burlington, Ontario
Canada

family tree info and a warm hello from a fellow Pomfrey

2005-10-22 05:21:31Z

Just checking out my family history, looking to find out more about my family tree and where we came from or originated... My full name is William Ronald Pomfrey,Jr from the Richmond area of Virginia. My Grandfather was William Fredrick Pomfrey, Jr... Not certain where we fit in ive never seen a full layout or any for that matter of family tree... Hope yall are all doing well....Hope to hear back from someone...

Pomfrey's of Ireland