Porteous - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Thomas Steedman PORTEOUS

2012-02-11 17:32:30Z

Hello
I am postong this message for my carer Eilzabeth (nee POTEOUS) She knows a little of her family but not a great deal owing to the fact her father had 8 children to bring up on his own. He was a wagon driver so was away a lot of the time and the rest of the family helped rear the children.Liz does not have a computor at this moment in time that is why I am doing this for her.Here is the detalis as she can remember and askes for your help.She was told as a young girl living in Edinburgh that one of her relitives was hanged on the gallows were they lived. She belives her Granddads name was James but is not quite sure of this. Can anyone help please I know it is not a lot of information but we all have to start somewere.

Her Father Thomas Steedman PORTEOUS (youngest child Twin 1 died) born about 1920??? married 1952
His Sisters and brothers.
Agnes- ( known as Nan )
Robert
George
Jessie
Patrick
James or John ( known as Sunny went to AUS. had a son called Shane)
There were 2 other children but she does not know there names belives one died in the war and given a medal
Thank you for reading Hannah

Re: Thomas Steedman PORTEOUS HELP PLEASE

bripa92 — 2012-02-11 08:37:46Z

Hannah,

It has been a while since you posted, but just in case you are still here - Thomas was the brother of my grandfather.

My Grandfather was James Steedman Porteous - he is the one they called 'Sonny' - moved to Australia in 1950.

Fiona

Re: Hon. George Porteous

PatAllan925 — 2012-02-06 20:03:05Z

Hon. George Porteous (family #911) became Lt.Gov. of Saskatchewan Mar/1976-Feb/1978; his first wife was Mildred Berks REDMAN & 2nd was Kathleen ALLINGHAM (by which there were 2 more sons). George was born 1903 in Douglas, LKS SCT & came to Canada in 1910 with his siblings & their widowed mother.

Pat Allan porteousassoc@hotmail.com
Volunteer Research Contact for The Porteous Associates

Re: Mildred Porteous

PatAllan925 — 2012-02-06 19:59:00Z

Mildred Berks REDMAN (1905-1944) was George's first wife; eldest son, John/Jack, passed away last November, the other 2 in 1990 & 1992.
Pat Allan porteousassoc@hotmail.com
Volunteer Research Contact for The Porteous Associates

Re: Andrew Porteus or Porteous

mandokelly — 2012-02-06 19:28:03Z

My Grandfather George Porteous was a POW in WW11. He received a medal on his return to Canada.

Mildred Porteous

mandokelly — 2012-02-06 19:22:33Z

I am looking for some information about my Grandmother Mildred Porteous, who was married to my late Grandfather George Porteous of Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada.
Mildred died in Saskatoon in the 1940s. She had 3 sons with George - Jack, Berks and Malcolm Porteous.

IMPORTANT - MUST READ - ORIGIN OF SURNAME PORTEOUS

siosalach — 2012-01-24 18:35:59Z

Are you aware that in lower Normandy, France, there is a place called Port en Bessin?

Are you aware that the names Hugue de Port and Hubert de Port or elsewhere referenced as Le Sire de Port are included on the Battle Abbey Roll and the Falaise Roll for William the Conqueror? (Note: Apparently these individuals were from Port en Bessin, Basse Normandie (Lower Normandy), France.

Are you aware that:

"Port-en-Bessin-Huppain est une petite ville française, située dans le département du Calvados et la région de Basse-Normandie. Ses habitants sont appelés les Portais et les Portaises." (From: http://www.annuaire-mairie.fr/mairie-port-en-bessin-huppain....

TRANSLATION: Port-en-Bessin-Huppain is a small French town, located in the department of Calvados and the region of Lower Normandy. Its inhabitants are called Ports and Portaises.

I spent untold hours looking everywhere on the internet to determine the ancient origin of the surname "Porteous" to no avail. It did not seem "correct" to me that the Norman name "Porteous" first appeared as late as 1400 AD associated with a clearly established Norman name such as Fraise (Fraser). I started digging, using logic, and I discovered the above information.

The surname "Porteous" loosely (and perhaps carelessly) translated may mean "carrier" or messenger" etc., but I have always suspected that it was a name associated with a place, not an occupation or an adjective. The written word as it was in those days would easily (mis)spell the term Portais or Portaises in numerous ways, especially if the surname Port became a plural also, as in "the Port descendants became numerous" thus: the Portaises.

I hope everyone will start looking into this themselves. I suspect the Porteous name is more closely connected to the time of Wm the Conqueror than previously thought. If genealogists will start looking at the family name Port and descendants of Hugh or Hubert de Port, perhaps the connection will be made. I have a bit more information regarding these two de Port names, as well as a reference to them as Le sire de Port. The earliest reference to them finds them in lands located at Seamer, Scarborough, North Ride Yorkshire, England shortly after the Conquest. The father of these individuals is named Hughes Gospatric de Port, a sister is Emma de Port, Hugh's wife is Sybil de Port, and a son is also Hugh. It is unclear to me at this time, but I believe there were two de Port sons riding with Wm the Conqueror, Hugue and Hubert, although one reference I found did note "Hugh Hubert dePort".

In kinship spirit - Penelope Chisholm

Re: Porteous Relatives

PatAllan925 — 2011-09-24 23:28:39Z

I realize that you know little, but anything you can add is helpful ... do you know Grandma Griffith's first name(s)? Do you know when/where she died? Did your mother have any siblings? Are there any other relative names you know? It's possible your mother was named after a family member. From all your previous messages I've built the following tree:
1 ? GRIFFITHS d: Bef. 1930 CDA /?UK m: Bef. 1922 ?RNF SCT to ? PORTEOUS d: Bef. 1930 CDA /?UK
2 Isabella Margarita Whillemina (PORTEOUS) GRIFFITHS b: c1922 Motherwell/?Greenock RNF SCT d: 1989 Swansea GLA WLS
+Earnest R Brown m: 1stQ 1943 NewtonAbbot DEV ENG (div.)
+William Fredrick Samuel CROCOMBE b: 2ndQ 1916 Barnstaple DEV ENG m: 4thQ 1948 Swansea GLA WLS d: 1996 Swansea GLA WLS
Like to help, but need anything you know to go further!

Pat Allan porteousassoc@hotmail.com
Volunteer research contact for Porteous Associates

Re: Porteous Relatives

howardcrocombe1 — 2011-09-24 20:24:06Z

Re: Isabella m w Porteous ? afraid not her. I Have only anecdotal info on mothers side of my family Mum born either Motherwell or Greenock in 1922 Parents deceased while young. Train crash ??? adopted by Grandmother Griffiths about 1937 lived in Swansea until death in 1989 previous marriage to Earnest Brown in 1943 divorced then married my dad in 1947 in swansea wales uk

Re: Nova Scotia -- Albert John PORTEOUS

PatAllan925 — 2011-09-19 13:48:38Z

Not sure when my cousin, Jason, may be able to reply, so have done some searching. No luck searching Nova Scotia records (nothing on vital stats website & closest I can find on 1881 census is Albert Parker, 2, s/o William & Nancy (nee: Johnston, m: 1869) in Parrasboro, Cumberland co. NS I was able to build up the NZ family (from NZ vital stats webpage) & have this:
1 Albert John PORTEOUS b: 1878 Oxford, Cumberland co. NS CDA d: 27/7/1965 NZ
+Marian FISCHER b: c1878 m: 1898 NZ d: 1965 NZ
.2 Albert Charles Edward PORTEOUS b: 1900 NZ d: 1968 NZ m: 1921 NZ to Eileen Mary CAVANAGH
.2 Hilda Florence PORTEOUS b: 1902 NZ d: 1903 NZ
.2 Hannah Christina Valentine PORTEOUS b: 1903 NZ
.2 Stanley Claude PORTEOUS b: 28/10/1905 NZ d: 1992 NZ
.2 George Reginald PORTEOUS b: 4 Apr 1909 NZ d: 1986 NZ
.2 Moana PORTEOUS b: 1910 Woodville NZ d: 1973 NZ

Would like to compare files with you to confirm above & how you connect to this line. Perhaps there's something else which might link to one of the many families in Porteous Associates huge database. porteousassoc@hotmail.com

Re: PORTEOUS - HURWOTH - BOUSFIELD Connection

BillboHaze — 2011-09-19 13:47:48Z

Hi Marion I have just found your message about the Bousfields and Hurworths. Ada Hurworth was my Grandmother. I have some information on both familys

Re: Nova Scotia -- Anne Jane PORTEOUS

masie9 — 2011-09-19 13:47:04Z

Dear Jason,

I am currently researching my family tree name of Hurworth which has linked into the family name of Bousfield both families come from Yorkshire & Durham in the UK.

I have now traced a Adam Bousfield who appears to have left the UK for Canada and married a Anne Jane Porteous on 24/02/1866 at Pictou Nova Scotia..

I have a great deal of information relating to the Bousfield & Hurworth families and I wish now to add to my research this Canadian link.

Please could you tell me anything about Anne Jane Porteous who I believed was born about 1844 in Pictou Nova Scotia. She died 15/04/1909 in Sydney Cape Breton Nove Scotia and was buried on 18/04/1909.

From the 1881 Canadian Census the follwoing information has been gained

Adam Bousfield 39yrs UK Farmer
Anna J Bousfield 37rs Nova Scotia
Archibald Porteous Bousfield 13yrs Nova Scotia
John Adam Bousfield 11yrs Nova Scotia
Jennetta A Bousfield 7yrs Nova Scotia
Leonard Bousfield 2yrs Nova Scotia
Archibald Porteous 70yrs Scotland Widow

All residning at Hardwood Hill Pictou Nova Scotia.

There is also another name to the children :- Allison Leonard Bousfiled born 1877 Lyris Brook Nova Scotia who is not shown on the 1881 census and died 07/10/1908

It appears that Adam Bousfield's brother Thomas Bousfield who had a son called Alfred Bousfield ...Alfred married my relation Ada Hurworth in 1900 in Barnard Castle Durham.

That is all I appear to have so far, for what appear now to be my very distant cousins within my family tree living in Canada.

Kind Regards

Marion James
London
England

Re: Nova Scotia -- James T. PORTEOUS

2011-09-19 13:46:25Z

Hi Jason:

I would be interested in any dates you may have re: JAMES THEOPHILUS PORTEOUS, (s/o JAMES WARREN PORTEOUS and ELIZABETH ANN TAYLOR), married to SARAH JANE COADY (d/o DANIEL/DONALD COADY and SARAH McLEAN) James and Sarah had at least one child, CHRISTINE PORTEOUS. All born NS.

Thanks

Re: Nova Scotia -- Albert John PORTEOUS

SuzanneSoutter — 2011-09-19 13:45:28Z

Hi Jason,
I have an Albert John Porteous born 1878 in Oxford Nova Scotia to parents William John Porteous and Hannah Wright. According to his death certificate, he emigrated to New Zealand at about the age of 5, but that might not be accurate. I wonder if you would have any information about this family in your database.
Kind Regards,
Suzanne Soutter
Australia

PORTEOUS births, deaths, marriages - in Nova Scotia

2011-09-19 13:31:47Z

I have recently finished compiling the births, deaths, and marriage information for surname Porteous for the province of Nova Scotia. I believe there are only three or four different families so the information will likely only be relevant to a small few. Also, the records have several gaps so the dates covered is limited, especially for births and deaths. There are about 40 entries in all. If you are interested, please let me know.

Jason Porteous

Frances & George Porteous/Braid/ Kinloch-Kinross monument

clddbd — 2011-08-16 12:59:15Z

In July 2011 I visited the Church of Scotland-Kinross Parish in Kinross, Scotland and took this picture. I hope someone finds it meaningful for their family
Cheryl

Isabell Porteous - b. 1922

howardcrocombe1 — 2011-08-16 12:56:49Z

looking for any information on parents of my late mother. isabell m w Porteous/griffiths Born circa 1922 motherwell/greenock. both parents deceased. possibly accidental deaths. uk or canada. mum adopted by or lived with maternal grandmother in swansea south wales. i would be grateful if anyone could shed light on her ancestry.

Re: Porteous Relatives

PatAllan925 — 2011-08-04 17:03:37Z

I am wondering if your mother could be Williamina b: 9 Mar 1913 Glasgow to Martha Mackrell & Howard Porteous. Have previously heard from a descendant who knew almost nothing about the Porteous side (parents not married, father not involved) & little of maternal side, Martha's parents were William & Mary. Any additional information you can provide regarding isabella margarita whillemina porteous (birth date, place, parents or grandparents names) would help.

Re: Porteous Relatives

howardcrocombe1 — 2011-08-04 17:03:17Z

my mother isabella margarita whillemina porteous. adopted by maternal grandmother Griffiths. married brown /divorced remarried my father William fredrick samuel crocombe.
family link to a ferrymaster at queensferry./ Captain john porteous. /ana a Lord leftennant of edingbrough. mum born in either motherwell or grenock 1922 ish

Christina Porteous/Morton/Thomson..Monument Pic in Scotland

clddbd — 2011-07-28 15:58:56Z

I took this photo last week at the Church of Scotland Kirk "O" Shotts. It is very difficult to read but I hope someone finds this meaningful to their family.

Cheryl

Re: Porteous

springdaleia — 2011-07-17 13:27:42Z

No, I don't...but I would love to know the reason you ask. Strads are so scarce...your answer will be interesting, that's for sure.

Porteous

MBrooks743 — 2011-07-16 17:02:45Z

does anyone with the last name Porteous have a Stradivarius violin in the family, which has been passed down through many generations?

Re: James Porteous

porteous191 — 2011-07-15 10:51:37Z

Hi Amber
Can you contact direct at
porteous@tpg.com.au
Roger Porteous

Re: James Porteous

PatAllan925 — 2011-07-14 13:18:52Z

Had his birth, marriage, parents on file, but didn't have death, so thanks for that! Have births of 2 sons, one of whom returned to AUS where he married & died. Also have births for 7 siblings of James, with limited detail (death info for only 3). Would be glad to exchange info. & compare notes as it looks like we may have different pieces of this puzzle (family #1324) - easier via direct Email porteousassoc@hotmail.com. I am a volunteer research contact for http://members.shaw.ca/amms/PorteousAssociates/

Re: James Porteous

DewarAmber — 2011-07-14 02:05:59Z

I have information on James Dempsey Porteous who was married to Jessie Gibson Roberts on 10/4/1885, Gorbals, Glasgow.

I have a record of his death 18/1/1944 in Govan, Glasgow aged 81. His mother was Ann Porteous (MS Dempsey) and Father was James Porteous, River Pilot.

The New South Wales registry for BDM records show James Porteous was born in Shoalhaven, NSW Australia in 1863 and has many siblings.

Please get in touch if you'd like further information.

Re: William Portus 1715

katieMoir13 — 2011-07-01 14:17:21Z

Hi,
The Cumberland connection is the William Portus i am searching.
I got some of the informaton, from my cousin Derek.
Just trying to see if it could be traced back before 1715. Last time I contacted Derek, he was also stuck at 1715.

Gordon

Re: William Portus 1715

porteous — 2011-07-01 12:52:36Z

These places are in Cumberland, England (Cumbria), where there are a number of Porteus families recorded.
A quick Google search also leads to a number of mentions, including an old GenForum posting from Derek Porteous from 2005 titled "Porteous in Kirklinton, Arthuret". I think he may be on this Ancestry/Rootsweb forum.
Good luck with your search.
Best wishes, Bruce

Re: William Portus 1715

kglass18 — 2011-06-30 17:46:59Z

Katie,
What part of the world are these places in? We need to narrow the search. I have many Williams who were baptized around this time in Lincolnshire, England. The name PORTUS is only one of the many surname spellings, also.

I would love to help you if I had more information.
Regards, Karen

William Portus 1715

katieMoir13 — 2011-05-09 21:57:39Z

looking for any info on this person. Lived in Longtown and kirklinton.

Re: Thomas Porteous

katieMoir13 — 2011-05-09 12:21:37Z

I j
have a Thomas on my tree.....he was a shoemaker. born around 1844

Thomas Porteous

2011-05-09 12:20:59Z

My great-great grandmother was a Porteous, born around the same time from Dumfries, but the family went to Canada. Her father, Thomas was a shoemaker. I have some info on them.

John PORTEOUS -- b, 1827-28 Scotland

2011-05-09 12:20:07Z

Seeking info on birth place, parents of John PORTEOUS, b. 13 Feb 1827/8 in Scotland. Arrived port of New York on 13 Aug 1852. He m. Marion STEWART on 18 Jan 1856 in Pittston, Luzerne Co., Pennsylvania. Their children were: Andrew (1), Elizabeth, James, Margaret, Adam, John, & Andrew (2). PORTEOUS was a miner and mine supervisor in Pittston.

Any assistance greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Jack Porteous

Jack Porteous

Re: John Porteous 1827

josejones141 — 2011-05-09 09:44:35Z

I don't know what the connection is but perhaps ... My mother was the seventh, and last, generation of our famly to be born in Ecclecfechan and I have found photos of Andrew Porteous in her photo album. The photos were taken about 1926 on RRS Discovery when exploring the Antartic. Some of them have hand written descriptions. I have never been able to work out how or why she had these photos but the connection with Ecclefechan must be relevant - surely? Ecclefechan is a tiny place!

Re: Porteous Family from Whitehaven, Cumberland

JulietTRobinson — 2011-02-13 08:54:07Z

From the Davidson family, Whitehaven:
Ann m. John Porteous, a shipwright, Dorothy m.Joseph Adair a mine manager in Egremont, Cumberland, Elizabeth m. Jeffrey Ingles from Dundee having spent several years teaching there before marriage. There were several other children in this family who I cannot trace.
From the Ann (Davidson) & John Porteous family:
Sarah did not marry, Elizabeth married Charles Adlem, Dorset,(2 children) Mary Agnes married William Nixon from Dundee in 1889 and died in Boscombe,Christchurch June 1894,a few days after giving birth to her second daughter. Her death cert gave the cause of her death as pulmonary phthisis and exhaustion.

Re: Porteous Family from Whitehaven, Cumberland

PatAllan925 — 2011-02-04 00:47:18Z

From what's been posted, I've done some searching & think I've got a start on a tree here - additions/corrections welcome!
1 John PORTOUS m: 4thQ 1844 Liverpool, LAN ENG to Ann Elizabeth Davidson? d: 4thQ 1862 Liverpool, LAN ENG
.2 Sarah Porteous b: 4thQ 1847 Whitehaven, CUL ENG d: 1924
.2 Elizabeth Ann Porteous b: c1859 ?Whitehaven CUL ENG d: 2ndQ 1929 Blandford, DOR ENG m: 3rdQ 1886 Blandford, DOR ENG to Charles Adlem b: Dec 1853 Blandford, DOR ENG d: 1stQ 1920 Blandford, DOR ENG >> 2 children
.2 Mary Agnes Porteous b: 3rdQ 1860 Whitehaven, CUL ENG
[not sure if Elizabeth who m: INGLIS is nee Porteous or if she's Ann's sister]
Pat Allan porteousassoc@hotmail.com Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Volunteer Research Contact for ... The Porteous Associates http://members.shaw.ca/amms/PorteousAssociates/

Re: Porteous Family from Whitehaven, Cumberland

JulietTRobinson — 2011-02-04 00:46:53Z

I have just noticed your message.I have Elizabeth Ann Porteous,aged 12,in my family records in the 1871 Dundee Scottish census living with Jeffrey Thomson Inglis.She was the niece of his wife Elizabeth Inglis.At this time her sister Mary Agnes Porteous,b 1860,had been living in the orphanage in Strathmartine,Dundee.Despite much searching we have no idea why she should have been living there while her sister was living with their aunt.Their mother Ann died in 1862 in Liverpool.Their father was a shipwright.They married in 1844.Elizabeth Ann married Charles Adlem He was the village blacksmith in Durweston,Dorset.They had 2 ch.There was an older sister Sarah Porteous d.1924.

Re: Andrew Porteus or Porteous

richardporteous1 — 2010-12-04 15:59:25Z

Hi thanks for your reply. My e-mail address is richardporteous@yahoo.co.uk I look forward to receiving the photos.
All the best,
Richard

Re: Andrew Porteus or Porteous

josejones141 — 2010-12-04 15:59:09Z

I'd be delighted to send them to you, Richard. Can you let me have your email address and I'll forward on what I have.

Incidentally, how do you link with him?

best wishes - Jose

Re: Andrew Porteus or Porteous

richardporteous1 — 2010-12-04 15:58:56Z

Hi, I'd be interested in any photos you may have of Andrew Porteous. I'm putting together a CD Rom of Porteous's killed in the 2 World Wars and those who were awarded decorations. Although not a 'war' decoration I've still included Andrew P because of him being awarded the Polar Medal during the second world war period.
I'm hoping to finalise this in the next few days so if you can send me something then I'd be most grateful.
Best wishes,
Richard Porteous

Re: James & Anna (Patterson) PORTEOUS

richardporteous1 — 2010-12-04 15:58:29Z

Pat, I doubt if you'll pick this up but if you do I'd be interested in where you got the information about Anna Patterson being the mother. James Porteous was my g-g-g-grandfather so I'm more than interested.
Best wishes,
Richard Porteous

James PORTEOUS b. abt. 1736 - Newton, England

patricia1435 — 2010-12-04 15:57:46Z

I have researched my ancester, James Porteous back to his birth in Newton circa 1736. His father is listed as Andrew, mother Anna Patterson. There appear to be several siblings. The family then appear to have moved to London, where James pursued a naval career, becoming master of George III's yachts. Would dearly love to tie in the missing links - why did the family leave. Anyone had an interest in this particular branch of the family?

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

onniebelle — 2010-10-16 03:17:11Z

love to have a copy too :)

onniebelle@hotmail.com

thank you,

Onalee

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

hougan93 — 2010-09-21 03:00:09Z

my email is hougan93@gmail.com

Thanks,

Doug

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

sburch — 2010-09-19 11:52:42Z

Please, I would appreciate a copy.

Thank you,
Sharon

fambuff7 @ gmail. com [do not leave spaces]

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

yakapow — 2010-09-17 21:46:02Z

what is your e-mail?

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

DougHughes — 2010-09-14 21:28:07Z

Yes - could I have a copy of the excel sheet of Porteous in the 1841 census
Thanks, doug

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

lostinhonkers — 2010-09-13 17:51:28Z

lostinhonkers@yahoo.com.au

thanks

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

yakapow — 2010-09-12 23:09:22Z

sure just leave your e-mail.

Re: Porteous List of Entries - 1841 Census Scotland

lostinhonkers — 2010-09-12 19:44:17Z

Hi Jason,

A bit late to the party but is it still possible to get a copy of this excel spreadsheet?

Thanks
Jo

Re: Rev John Porteous

sburch — 2010-05-31 14:47:58Z

Not much time today and haven't had much time to pursue my family history this last year, but not to left out of the loop...

Do not have a reference to the Reverend, but do have Thomas BELL Marriage 08 February 1877, Fergus, Wellington, Ontario to Alice JEFFREY. Parents of Alice, listed as Marg. PORTEOUS and George JEFFREY. My grandmother: Gertrude Alice PORTEOUS BELL.

Margaret PORTEOUS - Cemetery record reads HUGGARD, MARGARET PORTER MAR 1822 JAN 12, 1901 ALBION, NY BORN: ENGLAND, WIFE OF STEVEN HUGGARD & ____ HUGGARD, DAU OF JOHN PORTER & CATHERINE

HUGGARD, MARY 1880 JAN 25, 1897 ALBION, NY BORN: CANADA, DAU OF STEPHEN HUGGARD & MARGARET

This record is found on the Gen Web site, Margaret's burial is on a family plot - name should read PORTEOUS. Haven't figured out the HUGGARD association as yet, she may have remarried at some point, but I do not find any indication of that. She also would have been 58 years of age for Mary is her daughter.

Hope to have time to work on this a bit more before the PORTEOUS reunion - both my sister and I are planning on attending.

Any help appreciated and I will forward any info I may uncover.