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1793 marriage record of Thomas Probert (of Wales) to Elizabeth Lacey in London

SusanHopkins68 — 2012-04-10 13:23:53Z

A cousin of mine who uses findmypast.co.uk found a parish record for the marriage by banns of a pair of mutual ancestors, Thomas PROBERT and Elizabeth LACEY at Saint James Picadilly, Westminster, London on July 8, 1793. We know that this is the correct pair because we know a fair amount about the couple, including where and when their children were born, much about their movements, their descendants, and some of Thomas's cousins. The register confirms that both were literate enough to sign their names. We know from a family history that their grandson wrote, that Thomas was from Llandefally Parish or village, Breconshire, S. Wales and that his father was born at Llwyngwyn (trans: White Thorn) farm, Cragerdern (now Crickadarn), Wales. Elizabeth was from LACEY GREEN. I have their family bible. The two are buried at Hughenden. On the same image of the page of the parish register, and on the same date, is the marriage of Sarah LACEY to Joseph PARSONS. Joseph is able to sign his name, but Sarah is not. It could be a coincidence that two women with the surname Lacy were each married by banns in the same home parish. It is also possible that they are related to each other. My Probert tree, with Elizabeth LACEY, and with much of what I know, is at http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=bigbible&...

Re: Probets Surname

JulieBoyle18 — 2011-11-17 10:06:57Z

Hi Phillip,
My sister had Tom Probets traced through Ellis Island, and they say that Tom Probets changed his name to Tom Rogers, and arrived on the Saint Paul, from Southhampton arriving Sept 26th 1896 age 21 years 5 months Unmarried. His brother, our grandfather, Arthur Probets changed his name to John Rogers, came to Bundaberg, Queensland, was conscripted in the Army, and sent to Gallipoli, where he died in conflict. His service record is on the Australian National Archives Service Records. You may know this much. I haven't been able to trace him in the US. Cheers, Daphne

Re: PROBERT, James S. Sherburne/Smyrna NY>IA

6MERC6 — 2011-10-04 19:44:25Z

Hi Dixie,

I thought for a long time that the James Probert who came on the Thames from Liverpool in 1820 was our James Probert.

But I don't think that James was early enough to explain the following.

Susan Finett Probert Crumb was the *second* daughter of James and Asenath Probert. She did at age
22 years, just a year after her marriage, and was buried at Christ's Church Cemetery, Sherburne, N.Y.
Her headstone is noted to be broken all the way across, and set far down in the ground.

Cemetery site on-line says:

Finett, Susan, wife of Alanson S. Crumb and daughter of James & Asenath Probert- Feb. 7, 1841 - ae 22 yr (Stone mended all the way across and set far into the ground)

This would make her born about 1819 and she was the SECOND daughter.

Also there is the biography of a son that says he arrived ca
1812 via Quebec in the War of 1812. That seems a more likely time of arrival, but I haven't been able to prove ir.

Regards,

Sharilyn

Re: Francis Marion Probert

sjprobert1 — 2011-09-27 04:19:33Z

Marion Earl Probert is the name of the BYU athlete that was killed in November 1965. His father was Leo Marion Probert and his grandfather was Marion James Probert. They both lived in Scipio, Utah. I am Marion Earl Probert's son. I would be happy to share more with you if you are interested.

Re: Probert

murder — 2011-05-28 19:25:44Z

Hello John, I don't know if we have searched my Probert database for you or not. I would have to check my files for your address. Here is mine direct. nts@sti.net. I can't really send you any data from the database without it being direct. Nancy

Re: Probert

jrstewart1965 — 2011-05-26 13:04:24Z

This is old post I see but wondering if you found anything. My grandfather was also from Steubenville, OH. Charles William Probert he died about seven years ago and served in WWII. His father served in WWI in ths US Navy and also owned a drug store in downtown Steubenville, on 4th St I believe. Just wondering if there is any connection and if you pursued this any further.
John Stewart

Re: Proberts in Wales

susanmcfadden162 — 2011-04-08 19:43:24Z

Anybody looking for the probert's in Wales from the area around glasbury? The Glasbury parish register 1660-1836 is free to download or read onlin. the site is * archive.org * this is the INTERNET ARCHIVE library of free music,books etc, ignore the ads just type wales parish registers in search box in top left hand corner . Enjoy Sue

Re: John Probert born Clyro, Radnor

Edent0388 — 2011-01-04 18:16:35Z

Hi Marilyn,
I would love to see the old photos of the John Probert family. I am working on the descendants of John Probert. I have a website of some of my research at http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~probart/IN... I would love to exchange information. Please contact me.
-Elaine
elwdent@fastmail.fm

Re: John Probert born Clyro, Radnor

johnsondna — 2011-01-02 03:29:30Z

The Probert's were well known in the Portland area, I believe I have several old photos of the family. Lenora Musser is buried in Portland along with several members of the Probert family.

Marilyn

Re: probert's in llowes area..

LaurieTimberlake — 2010-12-22 16:18:33Z

I have a lot of information on Proberts who settled in Paterson, NJ who came from Wales. There is also a good bit of information on RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project
Cocker/Probert/Brewster/Meyer New Jersey

Re: PROBERT DNA PROJECT

stevewilliams250 — 2010-12-19 12:58:49Z

Nancy,

I recently posted an information request on the Probert message board @ ancestry.com, any information would be appreciated.

Thank You

Steve

Probert immigrants

stevewilliams250 — 2010-12-16 12:49:08Z

Hello to all.
Seeking help for immigrant family. Listed as passengers aboard the ship West Point, arriving in New York 21 July 1851 from Liverpool are: Ann Probert age 40, William Probert age 20 and George Probert age 13. No other information such as family relationships are given, any help is greatly appreciated.

Thank You

Steve

Re: Belinda Eliz Ellen Probert (1881)

murder — 2010-10-23 22:04:09Z

write me at nts@sti.net and I'll check my database for Probert. Nancy Probert Strickland

Re: Francis Marion Probert

jlj3940 — 2010-10-12 19:25:06Z

Sorry,
i spoke to my mom, she said it was not Pearl ( passed away when she was 9 years old) that it was Rebecca - Bessie that left the family and no one knew what became of her.
please cantact me if you have any info. at gwyrick@comcast.net
thank you
Gene

Re: Francis Marion Probert

jlj3940 — 2010-10-11 23:58:55Z

Hi Lina,
Do u have any info on Pearl, My Grandmother Jennie Probert Ohlrich said Pearl had a fight with their dad , left home and was never heard from again, do you know if this is true?
wonder if Nancy Strickland has any info about Pearl?
Please email me at gwyrick@comcast.net
thank you
Gene Wyrick

Re: Probert

jlj3940 — 2010-10-11 23:45:42Z

Hi Lina,
My name is Gene Wyrick, see that u hav info on Catherines line was wondering if i could get that from u?
U must be Rhys Jones daughter?
My Grandmother was Jennie Probert Ohlrich, (do you have any pictures)
I did receive some Probert info from Tina Melton in WA
but do not have much on Catherines side
would be greatful for only info. my email address is gwyrick@comcast.net
Thank you
Gene

Re: Mowbray/Probert

judithgarvie — 2010-09-28 23:57:18Z

Thankyou Philip for the info, I will pass it on to family members who are researching that line, also in a months time we have a gethering of Garvies here so they will be interested.
Cheers Judi

Re: Mowbray/Probert

harpers7 — 2010-09-28 09:42:12Z

Hi Judith sorry for the delay. If not of significance to your search I hope this at least fills in some gaps in the families history. Thanks once again for you information you have supplied. Regards Phil Harper

Re: Probert

lallen80 — 2010-09-17 02:28:25Z

I have information, as well. My grandmother is Estella Catherine Probert Jones. Let me know if I can help you. I have found quite a lot on Catherine's line.

Lina

Re: Mowbray/Probert

harpers7 — 2010-09-17 01:56:35Z

Thanks Judith, this looks great. I am a decendant of Philip Probert (born 1810). I am currently at my daughters and when I return home will send you the tree I have. My maternal grandmother was Sarah Hood Probert. She had a son and daughter (my mum). Her son died before my birth so Philip Probert was passed on to me. I had no idea of the history of the name. My only son is a John Philip. I will be intouch next week. Regards Phil Harper

Re: Mowbray/Probert

judithgarvie — 2010-09-16 08:32:00Z

Hi Marlene,
Have only just discovered your message when I recieved another query from a Philip Probert. I find it all very interesting. There is another member of the family who is tracing the Probert line of the family. I will try to attach a file with info I have.
Cheers Judi

Re: Mowbray/Probert

judithgarvie — 2010-09-16 08:27:51Z

Hi
My husband is descended from Mary Mowbray(Christened Jan 5 1802 and John Finlay. I have attached a file with the only information I have, this was given to me by a family member Suzanne, who is doing more research down this line.
I am not too sure whether the attachment will be successful, as I had to change it to a JPEG.
Cheers Judi

Re: Mowbray/Probert

judithgarvie — 2010-09-16 08:22:42Z

Re: Francis Marion Probert

lallen80 — 2010-09-16 05:26:24Z

Tina,
Hope to share information with you. I have genealogy on Catherine back to the 1600s. How are you related? I am the granddaughter of Estella, one of Francis and Catherine's children.
Let me know how I can help you, as well.
Lina

Re: Francis Marion Probert

lallen80 — 2010-09-16 05:12:39Z

Hi Tina,
I sent you an email about two weeks ago. Perhaps you did not receive it. I would be happy to share the information I have, as well. I have Catherine's line back to the 1600s. Let me know how to proceed.
I am anxious to know how you are related. It will be great to collaborate on this endeavor.
Do you have PAF? If so, I could send you my information on this line.
Lina

Re: Mowbray/Probert

harpers7 — 2010-09-16 01:48:39Z

Hi, I have been able to trace my maternal line back 6 generations to Charles Probert and Mary Moubray (sic). The "Lady" title was a suprise though. If this is of interest please contact me. Regards Philip Probert Harper

Re: Francis Marion Probert

tmeltotree — 2010-09-08 00:37:16Z

I was very excited to see your post...I discontinued membership for a bit cause I've hit a bit of a brick wall.

I do have some information and would love to share with you..pictures and literature and such of Katherine and Frank and family. Contact me at tmelto@comcast.net

Tina

Proberts - East/West/Little Dean, Coleford and Cinderford

wossgowinon — 2010-09-05 17:45:56Z

I wonder whether anyone is able to help?

Currently i have traced my Paternal family history back to my ggggrandfather Thomas Probert but have been unable to find any cencus or birth/marriage/death records relating to Thomas. The details i have managed to obtain thus far are as follows:

ggggrandfather: Thomas Probert
Profession: Labourer
gggrandfather: John Probert
Born: 1869
Wife: Rosina (Rosa) Probert (nee Price)
Married: 14/11/1892 in St. John's Church, Coleford
Residence: Lane End, Coleford
Profession: Collier
Children: Beatrice Maud Probert (B. 1894/5), Leslie Oliver Probert (B. 26/11/1898), Edgar Roy Probert (B. 01/07/1911), Hilda (B. 1902), Ida (B. 1910).

gggrandfather: Leslie Oliver Probert
Born: 26/11/1898 in Upper Cwmbran
Died: 06/09/1940
Wife: Alice Edith Probert (nee Mustoe)
Married: 13/04/1925 in Parish Church, Cirencester
Residence: Mount Pleasent, Cinderford
Profession: Collier, Enlisted in the Navy 01/10/1915
Children: Leslie John Probert (B. 14/03/1931), Ivy Edith Probert, Edgar Roy Probert (B. July 1911).

However i have found a record on the Forrest of Dean Family Site for Thomas Probert marrying Elizabeth Tyler on the 26th June 1866. There residence at the time was Coalway Lane End (Coleford) which ties in with the records i have for the Baptisms of Lonnie Victor and Hilda May Probert in 1904. Also with John being born in 1869, three years after the date of this marriage, this would also seem to tie in.

The marriage of Thomas Probert states that he was 28 when he married Elizabeth Tyler, making his date of birth about 1838.

The only trouble is there is a 38 year gap between the marriage of Thomas Probert in 1866 and the Baptism of Lonnie and Hilda in 1904, therefore If you are able to find any cencus records which would confirm that this Thomas is my ancestor i'd be very interested to see them.

Thanks,

Scott

Belinda Eliz Ellen Probert (1881)

timperkins_1 — 2010-08-08 11:54:11Z

Belinda was b: 1881 in Coelford, Gloucestershire (ref. 1911 census), she married Charles Herbert Powell in 1902 and had four children (Ellen, Alfred, Phyliss and Gwendoline). Ellen possibly illegitimate, as born three years before marriage.

Belinda's full name is confirmed on both marriage and one of the children's birth certificates. But apart form those references, no further trace, no birth record or trace in the 1891 or 1901 census. Father's name Thomas Probert according to marriage cert.

Can anyone assist with any further information on Belinda ?

Thanks !

Re: Francis Marion Probert

NancyProbert — 2010-08-01 02:49:40Z

My computer is now back online and working so I will again be able to search the PROBERT DATABASE for you. It now has over 124,000 entries. But in order to send out blocks of data to you I need to be in direct contact please. Here is my address nts@sti.net.I look forward to hearing from you. Nancy Probert Strickland

Re: Francis Marion Probert

murder — 2010-07-27 03:33:09Z

I'll be back as soon as possible. Thanks for the update and we'll see if our branches fit. Nancy

Re: Francis Marion Probert

lallen1304 — 2010-07-27 01:36:49Z

Dear Nancy,
We must be related since we are both working on the Probert line. I am happy to share what I have as well. Thank you for responding to my inquiry. Let's stay in touch!
Lina Allen

Re: Francis Marion Probert

murder — 2010-07-27 00:16:03Z

Hello Francis,
I have been having real problems with my XP going out and Dell making me accept the replacement since it was their faulty part. They replaced with Windows 7 and I have lost my genealogy programs which we are trying to find and replace. I'll be glad to try to help when the Probert database is back in service. It is no doing the Access queries properly. The computer guy will be here this week. Nancy

Re: Francis Marion Probert

lallen1304 — 2010-07-25 20:42:50Z

My grandmother is Estella Catherine Probert. My father is Rhys H. Jones. I would love to have any information on the Probert line. My father, 92, has always wondered about Charles Probert, brother of Francis. Apparently he left home and came to Utah, but I have not been able to find himin any records. Dad thinks that Francis Earl Probert, the physician and BYU athlete who was killed in 1965 in a plane crash is connected to our line.
Recently, I learned that Francis Marion Probert's father is John Probert and he was born in New York.

Re: Proberts in Cheshire

astariel — 2010-04-12 04:56:13Z

Hi, I haven't been on for a while. Basically Im trying to trace Proberts who were living in the vicinity of Hope and Higher Kinnerton in FLintshire and Dodleston in Cheshire in the 18th and early 19th centuries.

I am descended from an Edward Probert who was a farmer in and around Dodleston at the turn of the 19th century. His father seems to have been a WIlliam who may have been a cordwainer and then later a farmer.

Edward's son WIlliam went into the railways and my branch moved north into the Manchester area. His son was a Thomas Woodward Probert who was apparently a bit of a black sheep.

So any info about Proberts in this region would be gratefully received.

p.s. I have also sent this to your direct email

Thanks, Andrew

Re: Proberts in Cheshire

murder — 2010-04-10 21:24:31Z

Hello again. I have read your data and I will be glad to try to fill in some gaps for you. What questions do you have. You say you have a tree and I don't want to send you what you already have. write directly please: nts@sti.net Nancy

Re: Flt Sgt Alan Probert - WW2

murder — 2010-04-02 21:31:28Z

Hello Tracy, I received your email but then my computer died and went into a long saga. I am now working with the new one and trying to learn new programs and do corrections. Easter is upon us and I should be able to find some genealogy time next week. Let me know what your questions are and any data that would help. nts@sti.net Nancy

Re: Proberts in Cheshire

murder — 2010-04-02 21:27:28Z

Hello Andrew, I received your email but then my computer died, and now I am having quite a time bringing everything over to the new one and correcting. Easter is upon us and I should have some work time in a week. I'll be back and if you have more data to add to Probert data base or to check. just drop me a line. nts@sti.net Nancy

Re: Proberts in Cheshire

astariel — 2010-02-14 21:31:22Z

Hi again. Here is the summary chart.
Cheers,
Andrew

Flt Sgt Alan Probert - WW2

stegfish — 2010-02-10 23:07:35Z

I am researching the men from Eastham, Wirral who were killed during WW2. Alan Probert is mentioned on the War memorial in the village and from the Commonwealth War Grave site I have managed to find that he was the son of Rashleigh Charles and Florence Probert of Bromborough.

Does anybody have any information about the family?

We are hoping to host an exhibition in Eastham (in aid of Help for Heroes) in November and would love to be able to bring the memory of these men alive.

Any information would be fantastic.
Thanks
Tracey

probert family

aldythr — 2010-02-10 06:36:01Z

Hi Andrew
great to get a reply.Did you know that Ed.had siblings,jane,bpt7/11/1773,intered30/7/1783,hugh,bpt20/8/1775,int.17/11/1775. Wm bpt3/8/1777. Ewd 1,int 2/4/1779,Ewd2, farmer, bpt 2/4/1779. ---note same date----, anne ???.Poor survival rate wasnt it.! note that was not necessarily Ewdsbirth date. It was baptisim. From known facts on our side, it was sumtime months before they were regersted,but at least it is a starting point.
His father was Wm, 1730 of Mold,m Elizabeth Williamson 24/11/1765, she was interred15/7/1770. They had a daughter Mary bpt 19/11/1768. ( she married one of the Edwards,on our side we think.--one of the names I sent you) Wm married again , 6/1/1773. to Ann kinsey of Hawarden, interred Dec 1782.
Would love any info you have, we have nothing after Betsy. Michael, my husband, will try and sort out what we have to send to you. It will take a bit of doing.
Our tree goes back to 1703. and they were all at Dodleston.It appears as if your Ewd,and our Hugh were brothers. How exciting.
Would like to give you my email and address, but dont know how to do so securely,as I guess this is public
Cheers cuz
Aldyth

Re: Proberts in Cheshire

astariel — 2010-02-09 08:09:57Z

Wow. I am descended from the second Edward Probert you mentioned who married Sarah Woodward. They had a grandson who was known as Thomas Woodward Probert and is my great-great grandfa.
Edward had a son William (a name that seems to repeat) who went into the railways and ended up in Bury. William in turn had TW

Its brilliant to know the exact birthdate for Edward. We have been guessing that he passed sometime before 1841 since there is a record of Sarah living with William in Liverpool in the census of 1841.

Do you know where this branch of Proberts ultimately hails from? Given the Welsh name and the proximity of Doddleston to Wales we have been guessing the origin is somewhere like Flintshire.

If you would like I can attach our Probert line tree. I would be interested to know how accurate it is. The Cheshire connection is quite new knowledge for my family.

Cheers,
Andrew

p.s. a cordwainer is a designer/maker of quality (originally Cordoban felt) shoes (as opposed to a cobbler)
;)

Re: Proberts in Cheshire

aldythr — 2010-02-08 08:15:35Z

Hi Andrew,
I was a probert.Dad came from chester, but was born in Hope,flintshire. We have a copy (poor)of family tree, drawn up in chester about 20 years ago. There are lots of Ewds.One, our line,of doddleston ,bramley lane, higher kninnerton,married mary probert 6/3/1786. he died 3/12/1839 and was burried at Hope. another,different branch, was baptised 2/4/1779. He married sarah woodward 19/1/1802. Had a daughter, bettsy bpt 14/11/1802 He was a farmer. His father was william,was a cord wainer (wht is that),later farmer of higher kinnerton..Have more, but perhaps this would help.
Love to hear from you. I live in Western Australia.

Re: probert's in llowes area..

Gumfreston — 2010-01-30 20:21:56Z

Hi Mike,
Sorry for the delay - I have Thomas P in my tree too but sadly I am no further back than that either. There wereb a lot of Proberts IN Llowes some of whom moved to Glasbury around that time.
Thomas is such a popular name with the Proberts (so is James) that it is difficult to be able to spot the right one.
From the Llowes BTs I cannot find a Thomas born in Llowes in 1801! But strangely I have his birthplace as Llowes which I must have recorded from somewhere. I am not in the right country to be able to check this info at the moment but it will have to go on my list of things to do....
Sorry that I cannot help further. If you do find parents for him I would be very interested...
Thanks

Re: Albert probert B1869

leelussier — 2009-12-28 16:40:44Z

RHE Probert:
Please contact me with reference to your inquiry maternal grandmother @ leelussier@hotmail.com

Proberts in Cheshire

astariel — 2009-11-24 01:49:06Z

Hi,

I am interested in hearing about/contacting any Proberts currently living in Dodleston, Cheshire or whose ancestors are from there.

My great(4x) grandfather Edward Probert lived in Dodleston in 1802 and may have been born there. Since the town had only about 180 people back in 1800 there is a chance that any other Proberts who were there are relatives.

Thanks,
Andrew Probert

Auckland
New Zealand

Re: Proberts in Wales

marilynprobert — 2009-11-01 23:52:28Z

I always thought my Proberts came from Wales but just found out they came to the U.S. from England. John Probert married ELizabeth Corkey and came to NY, USA sometime before 1903 which was when my grandfather was born in Brooklyn, NY.
Have you come across their names. I would like to start looking in England but don't know where.

Re: Proberts in England

marilynprobert — 2009-11-01 23:40:33Z

My relatives from England are Elizabeth Corkey Probert and John Probert. I do not know when they came to the US but resided in Brooklyn NY and had 4 sons (Franklin Chase, John, Ernie and Alfred.) All born in US.
Anyone of them related to you?
thank you marilyn probert-pandya mamoo727@hotmail.com

Re: Proberts in Wales

Gumfreston — 2009-11-01 16:19:55Z

Hi Laura,
They aren't in my tree but it could just be that I haven't got round to finding them yet! Any idea where they were born or lived?

Re: Proberts in Wales

beauty91 — 2009-10-30 10:06:57Z

hello i read all of your posts and i was wondering if anyone had an relations to Violet Probert? Ivy Probert?? They were born in wales in the early 1900's.

Would really appricate any information you have

Thanks. Laura x