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Re: Allan Reford 1900s

blueskylady0122 — 2008-11-06 23:09:56Z

Hi Denise
I just sign up again and reading the board messages
What Reford did you contact?
I have a family tree going back to 1690 on the Refords
My GRGRGrandfather was born in Antrim Ireland 1802
If you need any info. please let me know
Thanks Kathy

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

blueskylady0122 — 2008-11-05 16:46:14Z

Hi Mike
Just sign up again and I am reading my messages.
My GrGr Grandfather James Alexander Reford was born in Antrim 1802. If you need any information on the Reford please let me know.

Kathy

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

blueskylady0122 — 2008-11-04 17:47:03Z

Thanks for the update.
I have the family tree going back to 1690
starting with Robert Reford and his wife Dorothy Till
they and family moved to Antrim Ireland from England
to start a fulling mill.
If you need any information please e-mail me at
kfamily0114@aol.com

thanks Kathy

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

Mdukes1231 — 2008-11-03 19:06:09Z

Please accept my apologies, I was referring to Frances (Frank) Allan Reford and his wife Sarah.

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

pfoster91_1 — 2008-11-03 09:56:46Z

hi that is my family berried in that grave yard in Belfast the last person berried is my grandmother my mother had a uncle allan that lived in canada we had bleaching green in antrum and our family lost its fortune gambling .
I am the first generation of Australians some of the family are still in belfast .

Re: Ireland antrim

joannnesmyth — 2008-08-31 18:53:40Z

they had 3 siblings. lewis reford born 1st feb 1700
john reford 1702 and rebecca 1705. lewis reford 1657 was a clothier and was known to have quaker meetings in his house in 1701. hannah melvin daughter of stephan melvin of coleraine,i have it in my family tree they where married 1690???

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

Mdukes1231 — 2008-08-21 22:15:42Z

Just to let you know, I am a relative of the reford's, my mother is daughter to allan and sarah from antrim, they passed away back in the 1950's & 60's, indeed you are part of a family that were well to do and lost their wealth in a gambling scam sometime in the early 20th century, in fact the reford cemetary is still intact today along the belfast road just outside Antrim near muckamore. My mother is still alive and the family name continues with the only son from that marriage and his son and their sons (they live in scotland). hope you have luck in your quest.

regards
Mike

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:24:07Z

passenger transcript details
Name: Lewis REFORD
Date of departure: 13 April 1927
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: Montreal, Canada
Passenger destination: Montreal, Canada

Date of Birth: 1901 (calculated from age)
Age: 26
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Shipping
Passenger recorded on: Page 28 of 31

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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
ALAUNIA
147315
Geo Gibbons
Cunard.
Montreal, Canada
22803
8448
783

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:23:02Z

I am waiting for that from Oz. His niece is still alive out there, although memories are a bit hazy now.
I have waited many years to do this, but being ill last year ( better now) made me realise that I should pursue it as there are blood relatives and I could have died never knowing who they were or vice versa! The Reford ancestors have been much more helpful than my small remaining family as it was so covered up. My grandmother was sent away and my G/grandmother confined to the house with a cushion stuffed up her dress until the "miracle" (she was late fifties) was born! Menopause was obviously not such a big issue in those days! My 2nd cousin, who for years I believed was my cousin was told of the name Reford as the father, since confirmed. Her father's sister was his sister-in law -very confusing! Drowning in it all now! talk again
Denise

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:18:57Z

This could be the Frank on the Ulsater Covenant

Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 3 Jul 1914
Groom Name frank REFORD
Bride Name jeannie THOMPSON
Church Muckamore Presbyterian Church
Parish Grange of Muckamore
Civil District Antrim
County Antrim

Surname Firstname Year Fathers Firstname county
REFORD FRANK 1914 JOSEPH Antrim

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:18:04Z

Denise
Do you know who Allan's parents where.

The Allan Reford who sailed in 1929 gives his last address as

Town Parkes
Antrim

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:16:59Z

The shipping companies were Canadian and yesterday I contacted a Reford "cold" to let them know who I was - no reply as yet. Risky, I know, but they either want to know me or they don't!
You are certainly a mine of information!
Denise

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:15:38Z

Interestingly I still have my maternal g/g fathers covenant - a bit waxy and transparent, but still intact!
I didn.t realise where exactly the Refords lived, down a road right opposite my family's home and business.
Have you ever read "My lady of the Chimney Corner"?
It gives good insight into things as they were and my g/g uncle is mentionned as "the best dressed man in Antrim"
Wow - fame at last!
Denise

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:13:55Z

Thank you for all this info.
As everyone, I am trying to piece things together, but this is shrouded in family secrecy as my mother was Allan Refords illegitimate daughter, and rather than marry into the "mini Carson dynasty" where g/grandfather ruled, he fled to Canada to his family out there. I am waiting for hard copy from Canada via Australia to try and find living relatives.
Thanks again
Denise

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:12:43Z

The Ulster Covenant
http://www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/ulster_cov...

Reford Allan Riverside Antrim Antrim: South Antrim Antrim Protestant Hall Vance, E Signature Folder

Reford Frank Riverside Antrim Antrim: South Antrim Antrim Protestant Hall Vance, E

Denise
Not sure what info your looking for re contacting someone in Canada.

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:11:37Z

This could be the boy, because I think my mother may have known him and therefore there would have been a gap between her birth and him going, although I believe her family tried to offer him all sorts of things to marry, he wouldn.t. The family owned shipping companies, so I will try and find out if they owned that one.
Thanks,
Denise
PS Have you ever contacted anyone in Canada?

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:10:20Z

Hi Denise
Only other one I could find on passenger list is

Name: Allan REFORD
Date of departure: 26 March 1929
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: Saint John NB, Canada
Passenger destination: Saint John NB, Canada

Date of Birth: 1900 (calculated from age)
Age: 29
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Clerk
Passenger recorded on: Page 5 of 8

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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
MINNEDOSA
142717
D S Mcqueen
Canadian Pacific
Saint John NB, Canada
31423
8310
174

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:09:22Z

Hi
I.m not sure the dates tie in as my Allan was born in about 1886 and fled Antrim after an illegitimate baby was born (my mother ) in 1921 - he would have been a young starter!
Denise

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:08:26Z

Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 10 Sep 1888
Groom Name allan REFORD
Bride Name maria jane GRAY
Church Saint Annes Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

Re: Allan Reford 1900s

moren — 2008-07-28 00:07:37Z

Is this him

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passenger transcript details
Name: Allan REFORD
Date of departure: 25 April 1930
Port of departure: Belfast
Passenger destination port: Quebec, Canada
Passenger destination: Quebec, Canada

Date of Birth: 1910 (calculated from age)
Age: 20
Marital status:
Sex: Male
Occupation: Lab
Passenger recorded on: Page 2 of 6

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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
DORIC
147215
W S Hodgson
White Star
Montreal, Canada

9869
88

Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:06:17Z

I am looking for information reagarding Allan Reford from Co. Antrim, relating to Canadian Refords and myself.
Thanks
Denise

Allan Reford 1900s

bekwey — 2008-07-28 00:04:06Z

I am looking for any information about the Refords who emigrated to Canada from Antrim in the 1920/30's.
Thank you

Re: reford

moren — 2008-07-26 11:25:50Z

Possibles for Lewis

Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 6 May 1850
Groom Name lewis REFORD
Bride Name anne GIBB
Church Antrim First Presbyterian Church
Parish Antrim
Civil District Antrim
County Antrim

Fathers of the groom
Surname Firstname Year Fathers Firstname county
REFORD LEWIS 1850 JOSEPH Antrim
REFORD LEWIS 1875 FRANCIS Antrim
REFORD LEWIS 1888 JOSEPH Antrim
REFORD LEWIS 1898 THOMAS Down

Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 18 Apr 1888
Groom Name lewis REFORD
Bride Name jane handcock CALVERT
Church Saint Pauls Church of Ireland
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

Entry Details
Record Type Civil Marriage
Date of Marriage 13 Jan 1898
Groom Name lewis REFORD
Bride Name maria LEE
Church Ballysillan Presbyterian Church
Parish Shankill
Civil District Belfast
County Antrim

Index of abstracts, extracts and duplicate copies of original wills, pre-1858
Surname First Name Area Country Document Date PRONI Ref
Reford Lewis [Antrim ] c. will & probate 23/4/1760 T 1213|2
Reford Lewis Antrim Prerog. will ext. 2/7/1760 T 1021|1
Reford Lewis Antrim Quaker wills 1760 D 799|3

Prerogative Wills: Co. Antrim, 1536-1856
Surname First Name Date Date Will/Probate Occupation Residence PRONI [T559] Go Betham etc. PRONI
Reford Lewis 1760 linen merchant Antrim 32 p258 D|799|3;T|1021|1;T|1213|

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Surname First Name Title Initials Address Town County
Reford Lewis Esq Beechmount near Belfast

Merchants and Traders of Belfast 1865

Surname First Name Business AKA Address
Reford Lewis Grocer & Tea Dealer/Wholesaler 54 High Street
Reford Lewis Merchant (General & Provision) High Street

Spirit Grocers in Ireland

Surname First Name Town Rate of Licence
£ s. d. Value of House Fixed
by Officers of Excise £ Value of House as fixed
by Board of Guardians £
Reford Lewis 3 Waring St., Belfast 14 6 7 3/4 250 300

Re: reford

bekwey — 2008-07-26 10:51:28Z

Yes I think Frank could have been a brother. It seems the family, as many Irish ones did, repeated names a lot!
I believe that the origins of Reford are French and my Carson side would have been Scot. I also think that Allan married in Canada and had a son called Allan and a daughter but as yet this is not confirmed. There was a Lewes or Lewis as well - not Welsh, but probably from Louis the French. This would make sense as although they sound the same the similarities between french and welsh words is quite incredible.

Re: reford

bekwey — 2008-07-26 10:27:56Z

Thanks again,
Permission to pick brains again as I am new to all this, though I suspect you'd already gathered that!
Denise

Re: reford

bekwey — 2008-07-26 10:23:52Z

Whoops - didn't read it properly before my fingers went into overdrive again. Will have to look into this a bit closer - the idea had to come from somewhere and I believe milling of cotton and/or rice came into the Canadian side and still does.

Re: reford

moren — 2008-07-26 10:13:29Z

Would this tie in with the shipping companies?

County : Antrim

Civil Parish : Shankill

Town / Townland : Belfast

Other Information : [Twin tablets formerly in carved entablature with ornate pediment, in high- railed enclosure, now laid flat and broken] [The will [with one codicil] of Agnes Herdman of Cliftonville, Belfast, in the county of Antrim, who died 5 September 1865 at same place, was proved at Belfast on 16 October 1865 by the oaths of James Gibson of the City of Dublin barrister-at-law, James Herdman of Sion Mills, Strabane, in the county of Tyrone, and Alexander Finlay Herdman of Belfast in the county of Antrim, esquires, the executors Effects under ?14,000 The Herdman family were wealthy linen merchants with mills, first in Smithfield, then later at the Brookfield Linen Co on the Crumlin Road They were also ship-owners and were connected with Belfast Harbour They are closely related to the Herdman family of Sion Mills, the pedigree being in Burke's Irish Family Records [1976]].

Erected by Thomas Herdman, of Belfast, in memory of his children: Alexander who died 29th Nov 1807 aged 35 years, Sarah who died 18th July 1812 aged 25 years, Agnes, wife of Thomas Herdman who died 15th July 1817 aged 74 years Ann REFORD, grandchild died 6th Nov 1817 aged 2 years Here also is interred the remains of the above named Thomas Herdman who died 23rd September 1833 aged 92 years And Frederick Septimus his grandnephew and son of the late John Herdman Esq died 18th January 1919 aged 71 years Also his only daughter Mary Aline Herdman died in London, Christmas Day 1920 aged 32 years Erected in memory of William Herdman Esq, of Belfast, by his devoted sister Agnes Herdman He died 19th June 1855 aged 78 years Mark the perfect man and behold the upright, for the end of that man is peace Here also are interred his two beloved nieces, Anna Sarah Reford who died 8th October 1836 aged 17 years, Charlotte Mary Reford who died 24th March 1841 aged 18 years, They were lovely and pleasant in their lives and in death they are not divided And also the remains of the said Agnes Herdman who died Sept 5th 1865, aged 85 years Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord; they rest from their labours and their works do follow them.

Re: reford

moren — 2008-07-26 10:11:15Z

Hello Denise
Glad info was of some help to you.
Happy to help anytime.

Ireland antrim

blueskylady0122 — 2004-10-26 19:45:38Z

looking for info on lewis reford who marry hannah melvin
abt 1669. childern names/dates and who they married.