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Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

Rivkala  (View posts) Posted: 17 Nov 2007 6:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Seibel
My SEIBELs were Jewish. They came from what was Galicia: Lviv/Lwow, Tarnobrzeg, Grebow, Rozwadow as well as nearby towns in Poland: Klimontow, Konary, Nadbrzezie and others. There is a family rumor that my great grandfather, Yitzhak Yosef (born ca 1825), had 8 sons, 4 who remained Jewish: Avram Moshe, Mendel, Hersch Melech, Shlomo and 4 others who converted. I would like to know about these 4. I have a great deal of info about those who remained Jewish. On my immediate line, my great grandfather Mendel left Poland in 1905 and settled in New York. Found relatives in US, Canada, Brazil, & Warsaw. Have a DNA Seibel project already started.

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

GCentritto  (View posts) Posted: 21 Jun 2009 3:22PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Seibel, Bobelak, Hermann
I am trying to determine whether the Seibels in my family were Jewish. My mother's maternal grandfather was Anton Seibel of Lwow who served in the Great War. He married a Ukrainian woman by the name of Anna Bobelak. They were well off and lived in a large farmhouse and had servants. One of his daughters Stanislawa Seibel is my maternal grandmother. She became pregnant by a German man my grandfather, Aloys Hermann and married him. Their son Waldimar died of diptheria in 1940. My mother Gisela Hermann was born in 1940, her sisters Ingeborg(Ann) in 1942 and Elona in 1944(?) We believe Elona died shortly after she was born when the hospital she was in was bombed. We cannot find any records of our Seibel ancestors and believe that they may have deliberately been destroyed as the family attempted to pass themselves off as Poles. If you can help me at all or know anything of the Seibels of Lwow during this time please contact me.

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

gailstern9  (View posts) Posted: 5 Sep 2009 10:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Seibel, Driks
I think I am related to you. My grandfather, Isadore, was (I think) the sone of Abraham Driks and Frimet Seibel. he took his mothers name when he immigrated to the United states in the early 1900s. He was from Lvov (i think). We are jewish. Can you share any other information about my ancestory? I have been trying to fnd info on Poland websites.
I live in New York. Isadore and his 2 brothers lived most of their lives in Brooklyn.

Gail Stern

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

Rivkala  (View posts) Posted: 6 Sep 2009 2:19PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi Gail,
I do not know if we are related, but I have 2 records that must belong to your family. One is the birth of Chaje Drix in 1889. Parents are Abraham and Frymet. Town in "Glina" on the record which had other spellings and is not far from Lviv.
The other is the 1891 birth of Rafel Driks (spellings were not consistant on records especially since it was from the Yiddish). Parents were Frimet Seibel and Abraham Driks. The name Chancre Seibel is also in the record but I have not translated it all yet. The town is Pustomyty also near Lviv.
I would love to pursue this further. I can send you my family website. Please contact me via my e-mail Roni19@optonline.net. I also live in NY. Where are you in NY? I have company for the holiday, but will get back to you as soon as I can. Roni

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

gailstern9  (View posts) Posted: 9 Sep 2009 3:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
It is possible that Anton was my great grandmothers brother. She lived in Lvov and her last name was Seibel before she married Abraham Driks.

There are a few polish ancestry websites that have tons of Seibels on them from Lvov. and around that area. It was a very very Jewish section.

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

gailstern9  (View posts) Posted: 9 Sep 2009 3:11AM GMT
Classification: Query
It is possible that Anton was my great grandmothers brother. She lived in Lvov and her last name was Seibel before she married Abraham Driks.

There are a few polish ancestry websites that have tons of Seibels on them from Lvov. and around that area.

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

GCentritto  (View posts) Posted: 10 Sep 2009 10:27PM GMT
Classification: Query
Gail,

Thank you for your response! If we are related through my great grandfather Anton Seibel , I would love to know! I am willing to participate in your DNA study as is my mother Gizelle (Hermann). We too have Seibel relatives in Milwake, Chicago and Poland. Let me know how to proceed.

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

GCentritto  (View posts) Posted: 10 Sep 2009 10:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
My mistake, I should have greeted Rivkala with my last post.Apologies***

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

Rivkala  (View posts) Posted: 11 Sep 2009 1:47AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: SEIBEL, KLOSS, SCHAEFER, SZULDMAN
It's hard for me to know because the given names are not typical Jewish names. One way to determine it is by DNA. I already had a male SEIBEL cousin participate and am trying to get a SEIBEL cousin in Brazil to send in the mouth swabs already(we are fairly certain we are related but would like to confirm this). It has to be a male with the surname SEIBEL going back, ie must be the male genetic line. If you think you might be interested, I can send you links to the DNA organization. Are there any other clues that they may have been Jewish at one time?

Re: Jewish SEIBELs from Poland --looking for our non-Jewish relatives

Rivkala  (View posts) Posted: 11 Sep 2009 2:25AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: SEIBEL, KLOSS, SCHAEFER,
GCentritto: I think you meant to send the DNA post to me. I replied to you privately.
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