Does anyone know where these places are in relation to one another:

Schwarzenau, Huttenthal, Westfalen, Preussen and Nienburg,an der
Weser,Preussen and Ehnwihr, Bas Rhin, France and Muttersholtz, Bas
Rhin, France?

I am descended from a German named John or Johann Siedler or Seidler
or Sidler or Sitler or Sittler or Settler who was born about 1814 in
possibly in "France." His wife, name unknown, was a Catholic lady from
Paris. Their daughter, Mary Philomina or Philomena or Philomene Sitler
or Sidler was born about 1840, probably in France. She was also
Catholic. She was first married to a gentleman by the last name of
Pooley or Pulley. On the 1870 census, she is widowed with a 3 year old
son named John Pooley or Poley or Pulley who was born in Alabama. Her
brother, John Sitler or Settler is living in her household. He is aged
27 and also of "France." Two gentlemen from Pennsylvania are also
living with them. A John Decatur or Decatus who is listed as a 36 year
old male and Henry Barley who is listed as a 38 year old male
locksmith/builder. I note this because many of the descendents of
Baron Mathias VON SIDLER's sons, Mathias Sitler and Dietrick Sitler,
of Preussen settled in PA. I am also very interested in the story of
their immigration to America and whatever happened to their brother,
Abraham. What I have read, is that their father, the baron, was
Catholic and they decided to leave the faith and come to America. Did
Abraham stay with the church and stay in Germany? Did he marry and
have children? What happened to his offspring? I am also curious about
the Siedler or Sidler or Sitler family of the Province of Alsace in
relation to the family in Germany. Thanks so much for your additions,
corrections, suggestions and any input you have the time to offer.
Fredreica Speyer speyer@bellsouth.net


Descendants of Matthias Siedler as per Familysearch.org IGI Files:


Generation No. 1

1. MATTHIAS1 Siedler was born 1630 in Of, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France,
and died January 05, 1695/96 in Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France. He married
BARBARA ENGELLAENDER (or ENGEL) February 04, 1655/56 in Muttersholtz,
Bas Rhin, Alsace-Lorraine Province, France. She was born Abt. 1635 in
Muttersholtz, Alsace, France>.

More About Matthias SIEDLER:
Burial: January 06, 1695/96, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

More About Matthias Siedler and BARBARA ENGELLAENDER:
Marriage 2: February 04, 1655/56, Evang Ch, Muttersholtz, Alsace,
France

Children of Matthias Siedler and BARBARA ENGELLAENDER are:
i. MATTHIAS2 Siedler, b. 1658, Of Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France;
d. June 23, 1720, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France.

More About Matthias SIEDLER:
Burial: June 24, 1720, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

ii. BARBARA Siedler, b. March 10, 1671/72, Ehnwihr, Muttersholtz,
Alsace, France.
iii. JOHANNES "HANS" Sittler, b. December 14, 1656, Ehnwihr,
Muttersholtz, Alsace, France; d. Bef. 1718.
iv. ANDREAS Siedler, b. December 15, 1659, Ehnwihr, Muttersholtz,
Alsace, France.
v. CASPAR Siedler, b. January 10, 1667/68, Ehnwihr, Muttersholtz,
Alsace, France.
vi. MICHAEL Siedler, b. September 05, 1675, Ehnwihr, Muttersholtz,
Alsace, France.
2. vii. JAKOB Siedler, b. January 19, 1664/65, Ehnwihr, Muttersholtz,
Alsace, France.


Generation No. 2

2. JAKOB2 Siedler (MATTHIAS1) was born January 19, 1664/65 in
Ehnwihr, Muttersholtz, Alsace, France. He married SUSANNA SYGWALD
November 14th or 24th, 1695 in Muttersholtz, Bas Rhin, Alsace-Lorraine
Province, France.

Children of JAKOB Siedler and SUSANNA SYGWALD are:
i. JAKOB3 Siedler.

More About JAKOB SIEDLER:
Christening: February 06, 1706/07, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

ii. SUSANNA MARGARETHA Siedler.

More About SUSANNA MARGARETHA SIEDLER:
Christening: October 13, 1712, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

iii. SALOME Siedler.

More About SALOME SIEDLER:
Christening: August 04, 1715, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

iv. URSULA Siedler.

More About URSULA SIEDLER:
Christening: August 27, 1705, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

v. MARIA BARBARA Siedler.

More About MARIA BARBARA SIEDLER:
Christening: September 29, 1709, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

3. vi. MARTZOLFF Siedler, b. February 14, 1698/99, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin,
France.
vii. MATTHIAS Siedler.

More About Matthias SIEDLER:
Christening: October 17, 1696, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

4. viii. JACOB Siedler, b. February 05, 1706/07, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin,
France.


Generation No. 3

3. MARTZOLFF3 Siedler (JAKOB2, MATTHIAS1) was born February 14,
1698/99 in Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France. He married MAGDALENA SYGWALD
January 22, 1719/20 in Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France.

More About MARTZOLFF SIEDLER:
Christening: February 18, 1698/99, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

Children of MARTZOLFF Siedler and MAGDALENA SYGWALD are:
i. SUSANNA4 Siedler, b. January 12, 1720/21, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin,
France.
ii. MAGDALENA Siedler, b. January 02, 1726/27, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin,
France.
iii. JACOB Siedler, b. February 14, 1721/22, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin,
France.
iv. MICHAEL Siedler, b. August 30, 1724, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France.

More About MICHAEL SIEDLER:
Christening: August 31, 1724, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

v. MARIA SALOME Siedler.

More About MARIA SALOME SIEDLER:
Christening: November 24, 1739, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

5. vi. MARCOLPH Siedler, b. April 01, 1729, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France.

4. JACOB3 Siedler (JAKOB2, MATTHIAS1) was born February 05, 1706/07
in Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France. He married ANNA URSULA SIEGWALD
November 26, 1725 in Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France.

Children of JACOB Siedler and ANNA SIEGWALD are:
i. MARTINUS4 Siedler.

More About MARTINUS SIEDLER:
Christening: August 18, 1726, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

ii. JOHANN JACOB Siedler, b. November 07, 1728, Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin,
France.


Generation No. 4

5. MARCOLPH4 Siedler (MARTZOLFF3, JAKOB2, MATTHIAS1) was born April
01, 1729 in Ehnwihr, Bas-Rhin, France. He married MAGDALENA SYGWALD.

Children of MARCOLPH Siedler and MAGDALENA SYGWALD are:
i. MAGDALENA5 Siedler.

More About MAGDALENA SIEDLER:
Christening: January 05, 1726/27, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

ii. CASPER Siedler.

More About CASPER SIEDLER:
Christening: March 01, 1735/36, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

iii. SUSANNA Siedler.

More About SUSANNA SIEDLER:
Christening: January 16, 1720/21, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France

iv. JACOB Siedler.

More About JACOB SIEDLER:
Christening: February 15, 1721/22, Muttersholtz, Bas-Rhin, France.


http://reimert.org/genealogy/database/index.htm

Jacob Sidler was born after 1563 in Germany. Place is assumed. He died
after 1624 in Germany. Place is assumed. IGI shows a JAKOB Sidler b.
11/21/1563 in Ottenbach, Zurich, Switzerland, m. 1/28/1582 in
Ottenbach to Margaretha STIERLIN and also to Verena SIEGRIST on
4/30/1593
Children were: Frederich Sidler.

Frederich Sidler was born on 4 Jun 1624 in Huethenthal, Westphalia,
Prussia, Germany. He died in 1697 in Huethenthal, Westphalia, Prussia,
Germany. Place is assumed. He has Ancestral File number 50RP-0F.
Parents: Jacob Sidler.
He was married to Elizabeth HEIDRICH on 25 Nov 1649 in Schwargenau,
Westphalia, Prussia, Germany. Children were: Johann Mathias Siedler,
Johannes Sitler, Anne Sitler.

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Johann Mathias Siedler was born on 4 Jun 1651 in Huethenthal,
Westphalia, Prussia, Germany. He died between 1701 and 1741 in
Huethenthal, Westphalia, Prussia, Germany. Dates are estimated.
Parents: Frederich Sidler and Elizabeth HEIDRICH.
Children were: Baron Johann Mathias VON Siedler.

Johannes Sitler was born WFT. Est. 1645-1674 in Huethenthal,
Westphalia, Prussia, Germany. He died WFT. Est. 1651-1753. Parents:
Frederich Sidler and Elizabeth HEIDRICH.


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Baron Johann Mathias VON Siedler was born on 4 Jun 1674 in
Huethenthal, Westphalia, Prussia, Germany. He died in 1745 in Germany.
Place is assumed He practiced the following religious faith: Catholic.
He has Ancestral File number 50RN-X4. Parents: Johann Mathias Siedler.
He was married to Dorothea about 1700 in Huethenthal, Westphalia,
Prussia, Germany. Date and place are assumed. Children were: Mathias
SITLER, Dietrich Sitler, Abraham Sitler, Anne Sitler.
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Dietrich Sitler was born on 13 Sep 1716 in Huethenthal, Westphalia,
Prussia, Germany. He immigrated in 1744 to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
On page 171 [of Rupp's collection of thirty thousand names of
immigrants in Pennsylvania] is found the record of the coming of our
ancestor Dietrich Sitler. His name is recorded as Deitrich Schattler,
he arrived at the port of Philadelphia in the ship named Friendship,
under the care of Captain John Mason, having sailed from Rotterdam and
last from Gowes. The date of his arrival was November 2nd, 1744; the
evidince from which he came is not recorded in this volume, but
information from other sources leads to the belief that the Sittlers
came from Alsace. Some may be discouraged by the spelling of the name
Sitler in the form of Schattler; but of those who arrived within the
45 years, among the thousands of names emamined, there is not one that
came anywhere near to Sitler, or could be translated into it, but this
name. He resided between 1752 and 1754 in Berks Co., Pennsylvania.
Among the Pennsylvania archives, of which there are 30 volumes, in the
third series, we found two records of Dietrich Sitler having obtained
land warrents. First under the name of Teeter Seidler, he received a
warrent for 50 acres of land in Berks Co., Nov 13 1754. Second, under
the name of Diter Sitler, he received a warrent for a tract of land,
then in Berks Co., now in Lehigh, of 98 acres, ordered to be surveyed
to him by the "Reverend William Penn," Esq., dated Oct 15, 1752, this
same land was sold to Engle Meyer, May 27th, 1779, by Dietrich Sitler,
and by Engle Meyer to Philip Sitler, son of Dietrich, May 27th 1786,
price 220 Pounds of gold and silver money of Pennsylvania, about $1600
of our money. The record shows that Dietrich Sitler, in religion was a
protestant, in demominatin, a Lutheran. He died on 20 Oct 1788 in
Richmond Twp., Berks Co., Pennsylvania. He practiced the following
religious faith: Lutheran. Family legend tells that the Sitler boys
left the Catholic Church in Germany and became Lutherans. This enraged
their father who disowned them. They subsequently came to America.
Dietrich was reportedly robbed on the journey which fact is used to
explain why he was not as well off as his brother Mathias who
prospered as a property owner in Baltimore. Their Father left them out
of the will by leaving his estate in trust for 100 years. At the end
of that trust, the German Government came to America looking for all
the descendants to close this Von Sitlers estate. This was 1890's.

In 1745, one year after his arrival in America, he assisted in
building a Lutheran Church of logs, on a tract of land near 100 acres
presented by the son of William Penn, to the German Lutherans in Berks Co>Co. That sturcture was burned by the Indians; but the congregation
survived and Dietrich was an officer in the same in 1761; 16 years
after, the church was rebuilt of stone, a few rods from the original
site, and Dietrich was one of the builders. This is the Moselem Church
with a history of more than 150 years. Of this church Dietrich was an
officer nearly every year from 1745 to 1765. From this date on his
son, Philip