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Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-04-02 18:22:10Z

I have pointed out to several persons/associations in the past ,the fact that at least 2 names came to be Senior in England. The 'first' is deSeignure that came with William, a latinized Norman name. The other is what derives from,at that inquisitional period in Spain- Seneor, sometimes spelled Senior/Senyor.The 'first' consequently came in the 11th century, but I would be very curious to have substantiated for me ,the claim in the above post that it appeared in England, as a surname from as early as Roman times.Is thare any validity jn any documentary form to illustrate this claim?

Re: senior

radenton — 2012-04-02 17:28:37Z

Thanks for the information it's very informative.

Beginners should be aware however that the surname "Senior" is a common one in England and dates back to the Roman period, it has nothing to do with being of Spanish descent. It simply means in Latin someone who is superior to others or older than them. So if you find a "Senior" in the Carribean that doesn't fit the profile dont' panic. There are probably a few English Seniors who fathered a "Senyor" in Spain or the Carribean during the many wars etc.!

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-04-02 16:13:15Z

Thanks for the info Janet. I noted some of your posts on Caribbean Surnames. To help you and Jim, let me say that the name Senior in the British Caribbean got transferred to England in successive generations and is not necessarily connected to those in the Spanish Caribbean , Cartegena and Coro. It seems as though the British Caribbean Seniors passed from Recife to the Caribbean directly whereas the Spanish Caribbean ones, myself included were the result of the intermediary isle of Curacao.In another of those posts, it is claimed that Trinidad has a Senior family buttheir date of arrival is unknown...its my family and arrived at the end of 1887. There was at least one other member connected to our family domiciled in Trinidad for almost ten years before but maritally Pereira, namely Julia Jael nee Senior. A DeLima family, maternally Valencia also had Senior connections and came here in the early 1880's. From about 1680, 4 Senior brothers migrated to Curacao and in the late 1700's, were freequenting Coro as their second home. As well many had gone to Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic and several latin american port cities on the main.Hope that info helps as it is unlikely that someone tracing their Senior ancestry in a British Caribbean isle find their rooting in Curacao....unlikely but not impossible as the Trinidad Senior family does trace it, but Trinidad was formally Spanish until 1802.If you can put your hands on the Recife Synagogue lists, from pre Portuguese times you are likely to have a better chance of finding the anceswtor of the Senior and Sarayva British Caribbeaners. Regards, Ian

Re: senior

jancar4606 — 2012-03-14 08:48:02Z

Hi

Sorry for delay in replying. My husband's great grandfather James Carroll was born in Cork.

Regards
J

Re: Seniors - Yorkshire, England

roma64_1 — 2012-03-13 14:19:12Z

mary senior was 5gt my grandmother her father was called george senior she married thomas heald in wakefield england have been looking for her family as there so many senior

Re: Origin of last name Senior

donya20746 — 2012-02-21 20:23:22Z

My Great Great Grandfather was a senior born in South Carolina. I wish I knew how to research like you all have.

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-01-26 17:29:35Z

Janet
I forgot to inform you of the earliest recorded Senior in the St Kitts-Nevis list. Jews in the list are...........
The 1678 census lists 8 Jewish families . 5 of these families listed in 1678-Isaac Senior, Abraham Rezio, Salomon Israel, Daniel Mendez, and Rachel Mendez.
regards
Ian

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-01-26 17:10:25Z

Hope you have found the more of what you are looking at, in your adventures at the London library,
Janet. As another point of interest, does the name Caroll come from the Inishowen area?
regards
Ian

Re: senior

jancar4606 — 2012-01-10 21:07:42Z

Hi,

Thanks so much for this wonderful information. I've noted the data that is available at the British Library and as I live just on the outskirts of the City of London I will be able to go there.

Kind Regards
Janet

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-01-10 20:36:39Z

Kindly check this link
http://www.tc.umn.edu/~terre011/Cemetery.html

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-01-10 20:32:32Z

I will check my records but offhand I can tell you that in the cemetry in Nevis, the sister isle of St Kitts, there is a mid 1600's Senior burried there. I cant remember his first name just yet. Point 2. Bishop Timothy C. Senior's father was Harwood -Senior, almost certainly illustrating descent from a Senior -Harwood lineage although the maternal - paternal doubling of the surnames is in reverse. Point 3 The main Senior line that came through Curacao, via Amsterdam was Spanish -Jewish originally, but made a loop in the latter part of the later 1500s, Portugal, Turkey, Venice and finally the Netherlands. 2 brothers reverted to Judaism namely Phillippe Senior-Henriquez and Duarte Senior Coronel aka Sarayva. Phillippe 1 had 4 grandsons including a Ph 2 migrate to Curacao about 1680. Phillippe 2 died and is burried in Puerto Rico

Re: senior

jancar4606 — 2012-01-10 17:35:34Z

Hi
Thanks for getting in touch and thank you for volunateering to help me.

It's been suggested that Richard Senior, b 1765 married a Judah or Judith in St. Christopher, St.Kitts and that they had 4 daughters, one of which was Alice Senior, b 1790. Alice was brought to England, don't know when exactly, but she married William Harwood in 1806 in Sheerness, Kent. Her father died there in 1835. In all the census reports I have of Alice she has constantly gave her birth places as the West Indies. I don't know if her father, Richard was born in the W.I. but did think that may he was a soldier. This is all I have, so any help you can give would be really appreciated.
Regards
Jancar

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2012-01-10 15:01:52Z

Hello
I am Ian Senior ,a descendant of the Curacao-Coro Seniors. Iam am from Trinidad. What is very interesting in the marital names you referred to is encased in the family of one of Philadelphia's bishops...Timothy Christian SENIOR. His father had Haward tucked in between his first name and his surname
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_C._Senior.
I am quite familiar with the Caribbean Senior lineages, and would like to help you solve your query. First of all read my other posts on the name at ancestry.com

Re: senior

jancar4606 — 2012-01-07 21:58:46Z

Hi Maria,

My late husband's great grandmother (about 3 times removed) Alice Senior, b 1790 St.Christopher/Kitts, West Indies I believe was decended from Shephardic Jews. Her father, Richard Senior, b abt 1765 apparently married a Judah/Judith in St. Christopher and they had four daughters. I don't know what happened to the family, but Alice was brought to Sheerness, Kent in England by her father and she married a William Henry Harwood in 1815.
The reason for the search is that my late mother, Ellen Carroll, late husband, Dennis and his sister, who is still living, have very dark hair, eyes and swarthy complexions, and we were all convinced that they must have Spanish genes to look as they do. I haven't been able to find out much from the W.I records as they are few and far between, but hoping that someone might have better luck than I have.
Regards
Jancar4606

Re: Origin of last name Senior

deborahsenior1 — 2011-12-24 08:16:46Z

This Senior family has a fascinating history as follows:

The progenitor of this family in the United Kingdom, (Moses) Aaron Senior (d 1736), was described as a 'West Indian Jew' and owned land in Barbados. His probable father or grandfather, Joseph Senior Saraiva of Barbados (d 1694), son of Antonio Coronel (d 1665 in Hamburg), who was one of the co-founders of the Bank of Hamburg (which became part of the Reichsbank in 1875), was a direct male-line descendant of Don Abraham Senior (b 1410/12), Chief Rabbi and supreme magistrate of the Jews of Castile, and favourite of Ferdinand of Aragon (1453-1516) and Isabella of Castile (1451-1504), whose marriage in 1469 he arranged. This marriage led to the unification of the kingdoms of Aragon and Castile and, ultimately, to the formation of the modern Spain. Don Abraham also brokered a reconciliation between Isabella and her brother, Henry IV (1425-1474), by which Isabella was acknowledged as heir to the throne of Castile, and negotiated the surrender of the great castle of Segovia, which helped to end the Second Castilian Civil War (1475-9).

As a financier, tax farmer and factor-general of the army Don Abraham also played an important role in funding and supplying the armies that drove the Moors from Spain (in fact the Crown would have been bankrupt without Jewish finance), helping to bring to a successful conclusion the 800 year long Reconquista (722-1492), the crusade against the Moors. Behind the scenes Don Abraham seems to have tried to minimize the suffering of his fellow Jews during a very difficult period. In Segovia in 1485 he intervened to prevent the rabble-rousing activities of Antonio de la Pena, a Dominican monk, against the 'Jewish wolves' who should be 'driven away by fire'. In other Spanish cities such activities had led to pogroms in which many hundreds of Jews had been murdered or forced to convert. In 1486 he interceded with the King to prevent the expulsion of the Jews from Valmaseda. In 1489 he paid, largely from his own fortune, the ransoms of 450 Jews captured at the fall of Malaga, mainly women who would otherwise have been sold into slavery.

Don Abraham also appears to have been one of the Jewish backers (led by Luis de Santangel) of Christopher Columbus' voyage of discovery to America, who he first met in Malaga in August 1487 ('Christopher Columbus', M. Kayserling, 1907, p. 42, 52-55). Such was his authority that, on one occasion in 1492, he even sued the Inquisition in order to recover property - and won. When the Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492 Don Abraham converted to Christianity, together with most of the close members of his family. He did this partly on account of personal pressure from Ferdinand and Isabella, partly on account of his advanced age, but mainly, it appears, on account of threats of reprisals against the Jewish community at large. Ferdinand and Isabella, with Cardinal Mendoza and the Papal Nuncio, were the sponsors at Don Abraham's baptism, when he and his family took the name 'Coronel', and they clearly regarded the event as a triumph.

In the decades and centuries following the expulsion, branches of the family emigrated to Amsterdam, Hamburg, Brazil (Recife, Pernambuco), Curacao, the West Indies and elsewhere, usually via Portugal, where some remained; this was often to escape the Inquisition. Many of these branches reverted to Judaism and re-adopted the Senior name (or the name Senior-Coronel) when it was safe to do so. Many were crypto-Jews, that is people who were officially and outwardly Catholic but who retained their Jewish faith and observed Jewish religious practices in secret. It was a common (and necessary) practice for crypto-Jews to have one or more aliases, which were often retained even after they had settled in places beyond the reach of the Inquisition. Other branches of the family remained Catholic and inter-married with non-Jewish or non-Converso families; some abandoned the name Coronel. Amongst Don Abraham's direct male-line Catholic descendants in Portugal are the Counts and Marquises of Penafiel (formerly of the Palace of Penafiel, Lisbon and the Palace of Correio-Mor, Loures, nr. Lisbon, and feudal lords of Penafiel, near Porto), which title later passed through an heiress, the first Marchesa, to the Gomes family, Brazilian diplomats, who adopted the family name of da Mata de Sousa Coutinho (the family changed its name from Coronel to da Mata Coronel, then to da Mata, and later added de Sousa Coutinho via marriage (de Sousa de Arronches being the surname of an illegitimate branch of Portuguese royal family descended from Alfonso III (1210-1279) and Coutinho being the surname of the Counts of Marialva, Marshals of Portugal, themselves descended from Alfonso Sanches, illegitimate son of Denis 'the Farmer' (1269-1325), King of Portugal).

Descent of Joseph Senior Saraiva of Barbados (d 1694) from Don Abraham Senior of Castile:

Don Abraham Senior/Fernao Perez Coronel of Castile (1410/12-1493), lived at Segovia, near Madrid m (1) Dona Violante de Cabrera (sister or close relative of Andrés de Cabrera (1430-1511), 1st Marquis of Moya*) and (2) Dona Maria Sanches del Rio and had issue an eldest son;
Juan ('Joao') Perez Coronel (d about 1504/5), lived at Segovia, described as a 'Knight of Philip I in France' m Cataline del Rio and had issue an eldest son;
Inigo Lopez Coronel (b about 1490), born in Segovia m not known and had issue a second son;
Francisco Coronel, lived at Salvaterra, Spain, served in the army of Flanders m not known and had issue a second son;
Antonio Coronel (b c 1523), moved to Moncao, Portugal in 1588 m (about 1548) Isabel Dias (b about 1527) and had issue a second son;
Heitor Coronel (b about 1549) m (about 1574) unknown Saraiva (b about 1553) and had issue an eldest son;
Antonio Saraiva Coronel of Hamburg (d 1665) m Ester de Joao Ramires and had issue;
Joseph Senior Saraiva (d 1694 Barbados), possible father or grandfather of (Moses) Aaron Senior (b 1690/1)
*Empress Eugénie of France (1870–1920), wife of the Emperor, Napoleon III (1808-1873), was the daughter of Don Cipriano de Palafox y Portocarrero (1785-1839), 17th Marquis of Moya. The title is now held by Cayetana Fitz-James Stuart, 18th Duchess of Alba.

See José Amador de los Rios, 'Estudios históricos, politicos y literarios sobre los Judios de España', p 445; José Amador de los Rios, 'Historia social, politica y religiosa de los judios de España y Portugal', iii, p 279-296; Kayserling, 'Geschichte der Juden in Portugal', p 83 & 102, and also the pedigree prepared by the Portuguese historian, Luis de Bivar Pimentel Guerra, in 1976.
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Senior Family

Karrin73 — 2011-10-25 17:05:33Z

Forfathers---Charles Senior 1887-1940 in Canada---Joseph Senior 1862-1934 married to Eliza? born 1861 Address Lands Lane Soothill,Earls Heaton,Yorkshire----Thomas Senior 1816-1893 married to Ellen? born 1817 Address Lands Lane Soothill,EarlaHeaton,Yorshire.I am missing maiden names and I need info on Thomas Seniors, father who could be Joseph Senior born 1791 lived in High Street in Horesbery.If any one has info would be interested.

Please help, all my Senior family males have been wollen Mill Workers in West Ridding of Yorshire, living in the soothill area.I am in Canada and I get confused about the different areas. I know I must have some Senior cousins left in England who I would really love to contact.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

roma64_1 — 2011-10-04 05:59:10Z

hi am looking for a senior family my 5 gtgtg mother was mary senior who married thomas heald in walkefild england her father was called george senior dont know who her mother was
maybe we on the same family mary senior was born in 1765 and married in 1786 in hull east yorkshire

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

Bryans1937 — 2011-09-28 19:00:48Z

I believe I have been confusing you with someone else also with questions about John Senior and Elizabeth (Tottington).

George was my gt gt grandfather and John shown on hois marriage certificate to Ann Rowley was in fact his grandfather, Frances was the mother of George.

The parish records for Hemsworth show two Mary's, in fact this was an error and the second one should be Sarah.To the best of my knowledge there is NO John for John and Elizabeth.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

Bryans1937 — 2011-09-28 18:59:10Z

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-09-28 17:18:34Z

its great what a fresh mind finds.
Well done.
That sounds like it fits well.
Sadly female servants are two a penny but where do you live?
I realised that the most likely way I am going to find any information about my rather more numerous illegitimacies in the Senior line is to dig in the poor board records and church records of Hemsworth. But it will be years before I get the opportunity.
It is possible that the parish elders would have made a record of the birth, and even asked the father, if known, for a contribution to the parish coffers to offset any costs they might incur later on in caring for the mother and child. If you are anywhere near, that would be my port of call.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-09-28 17:10:59Z

I am not getting YOUR info from anywhere but that which you have posted here and my own research, which is like yours extensive, as I have proven.
Otherwise the information I am posting is that of MY family - as this thread is about them as clearly identified in the subject. I am keen to learn more of our joint relations. I completely understand your keeping your ancestry tree private, but if you would like to share ideas off this group I am very happy.
We are very distantly related, we share
my 4th Great Grandfather (John Senior and Elizabeth Tottington) Frances is my 3rd Great Greataunt.
In the early 1800's there were not yet full brith certificates, but often baptismal records with birth information. Marriage information was frequently iffy in the early stages, and sometimes later on too! if he was hiding the fact of his illegitimacy he might easily pluck out a name - and what better than his grandfather and uncle?
The Martha you have on 1861 is MY 3rd Great Grandmother. It seems that illegitmacy runs in the family !!

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-09-28 15:09:52Z

At last I found George's birth on findmypast in the Parish Records Baptism.

It states that George is the Illigitimate son of Frances born 1 May 1814 Hemsworth. Frances is working as a Woman Servant (I would like to know where, you hear so much about Servants getting pregnant to their masters). Let me know what you think.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-09-28 14:39:18Z

I am still wondering where you are getting my info from. My tree's are all Private not Public. I do not have an Elizebeth b: 1858 or Oliver in my tree. I will try to show you my connection. I have been researching my family tree for over 14 years and I have checked and double checked my branches. I have never added anyone to my tree without proof. William Senior b:1847 who Married Mary Cox, his father is George Senior b: 1816/18 as stated on his birth cert. George married Ann Rowley, on their marriage cert it states George's father has John Senior. I find this unlikly has Eliz would have been 58 years old at the time of his birth. Also on the 1851 census for Georges household Hannah is there as his Aunt, Martha as Aunt, Thomas as Cousin and Sarah as Cousin. The only births I have found for George is Frances as mother no father given and I have also found that John & Eliz had a son in 1795 named John Senior who married Ellen Rothwell 21 Sept 1818 in All Saints Wakefield. I am not certain which is Georges parent, is it Frances or is it John.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-09-27 11:58:43Z

second half
Mary's christening record, mother only recorded : Martha. (this was the second child she called Mary, another christened in 1830 must have died)
Mary with mother Martha and siblings Sarah and Thomas in 1841
Thomas's christening record, mother only recorded : Martha.
Martha's christening record to John and Elizabeth, who also had Frances, John, Joseph and Hannah.
I do not yet have Sarah's christening.
and I have a number of other certificates of Tom, Sarah and Martha's deaths and marriages to buy yet.
Mary is away as a nurse girl in 1851 and then I have Elizabeth, Mary and Martha in a census all together, all unmarried, in Hemsworth in 1861.
If you have some records that contradict or conflict with these I would be very pleased to see them.
Genealogy is always fraught with misleading strands and ancestors taking us up blind alleys

all the best.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-09-27 11:57:55Z

I am struggling to send this information - will try it in two posts
We are talking about different Elizabeth's.
I have Oliver's birth certificate, he is illegitimate, born in Nottingham.
The Edward in 1881 does not exist - he is, with 95% probability, Sam Pulman under an assumed name - there is good reason.
I have
= the census record of 1891.
= Sam and Elizabeth's eventual marriage.
= the whole family in 1901 census.
= Bertha's death and letters in response.
= Elizabeth's birth certificate, (4th February 1858) and the record of her christening. Both of which only identify her mother, Mary. -
to be continued

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-09-27 11:48:45Z

from the original thread query : William is not in my direct tree, he is of no immediate import to my line, although I am interested in the Senior cousins as well.

My Elizabeth is the one that is clearly defined by the title of this Thread.
John Senior - Elizabeth Tottington
had Martha Senior (1800 -1868)
[John and Elizabeth also had Frances(abt1790) Joseph(1786-1861) Hannah (1797-1874) John (1814)]
Martha (1800 -1868) had Mary(1830-bef1837) Thomas(1834) Mary(1837) and probably Sarah(1839) all illegitimately.
Mary (1837) had Elizabeth (1858-1932) illegitimately.
Elizabeth (1858-1932) had Oliver (1880- 1944) illegitimately (to Sam Pulman)

I have lots of records to prove all these connections and dates.
If each described clearly who your line is, with the records for each connection, then maybe together we can match up the branches accurately.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-09-27 11:34:24Z

Which Elizabeth are you referring to. I am confussed as to which tree you are looking at.
Yes I do have the marriage certificate of William Senior and Mary Cox.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

Bryans1937 — 2011-09-26 23:07:55Z

I think somewhere along the way you have names mixed up. I believe that the mother of Elizabeth Senior was Sarah Senior. The Elizabeth you appear to have living at 14 Summer Lane in Nottingham was a married woman previously named Lee. Do you have the birth Certificate for Oliver born 27 September 1880? The 1891 Census shows an Oliver living with his mother Elizabeth Senior, born in Hemsworth in Manchester with another child a daughter. Do you have a marriage certificate for William and his marriage to Mary Cox?

Re: Seniors - Yorkshire, England

roma64_1 — 2011-08-03 06:40:00Z

hi my 5 gt mother was called mary senior she was born in 1765 one said she come from wakefield as she marred thomas heald in1786 in east rider england her father was called george
but i have found some senior maybe this might help some one
charles senior b.1730 mirfeild west york
sarah fearnley b.1729-birstall,west yorkshire
ann senior. b1775, Dewsbury .West yorkshire
Benjamin,b 1773, Soothill Dewsbury,west yorkshire
mercy,b1766.dewsbury west yorksire
Racheal.B.1762 Dewsbury .west Yorkshire
susy.b1760 ,Dewsbury .west yorkshire
george,b 1769 ,dewsbury.west yorkshire
mary, B1756,Dewsbury.West Yorkshire
HANAH .B.1756,DEwsbury .WEST yorkshire
Sarah.B.1754.Dewsbury .west.yorkshire
CHARLES .B.1753.Dewsbury.west.yorkshire
JOHN.B.1753.Dewsbury.west.yorkshire

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

roma64_1 — 2011-08-02 11:29:56Z

christin my mary senoir b1761 wakefield buti have some were
there and other senior in austarlia ifound in some papers have alook for youi think he name was richard senoir
i dont know if she had borther or sister

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-08-02 10:17:50Z

Hi, What is Mary's date of birth and do you know who her brothers and sister's were. I will check the info you give me against mine.

Kind Regards.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-07-28 14:43:54Z

Is your connection the Tottington one?
Elizabeth Tottington would be my .... 4th ... great grandmother.
The descendancy is Martha, Mary, Elizabeth, Oliver.... who married my grandmother, but the previous births of Mary through to Oliver were all illegitimate.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-07-28 14:11:00Z

George is my 2nd Great Grandfather and William his son is my Great Grandfather who had a daughter Agnes who is my grandmother. I have found that much info on the family of Agnes that I have been able to write a book on them.

William married Mary Cox from Barnby Dunn and they had 7 girls, Agnes being one of them all born in Elland, W Yorkshire.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-07-27 17:55:25Z

I had spotted George in my researches, but did not get too involved in his descendants.
I have Martha, Mary and Elizabeth all living together in Hemsworth in the 1861 census.
so if your George is right for John Senior and Elizabeth Tottington then it looks like we are cousins.

Oliver is my Grandfather.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-07-27 17:49:07Z

Yes, I agree with your findings, but please take note that the tree you are looking at I honestly thought I had deleted.

On further research I have also found that Martha Senior had three children.
Mary as you have mentioned, and Elizabeth as her daughter.
Tom b: 1834 in Hemsworth,
Sarah b: 1839 in Hemsworth.

I have also found that John Senior & Elizabeth Tottington had a son b: abt 1795 named John Senior and married Ellen Rothwell in 1818 they had one son George Senior b: 1818.

If John Senior and Elizabeth Tottington was his parents, that would mean that at the time of Georges birth Elizabeth would have been aged 56 and John 62.

George had a son William, who married Mary Cox, they had a daughter Agness who is my grandmother and I have extensive information and documention on them.

I look forward to your reply as the Senior family is a complicated one and would be glad to hear of your findings.

Do you think we could be related in any way.

Kind Regards.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-07-26 17:49:22Z

the list is the chronological list of parent child.
Unusually there are multiple illegitimates
Martha is Marys mother who is Elizabaths mother, who is Olivers mother. All illegitimate according to records found.
:)

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

Bryans1937 — 2011-07-26 15:41:04Z

There is NO Oliver connected with John, Martha or Elizabeth, unless Elizabeth is his mother, Martha is the daughter of John and was unmarried. I think somewhere along the way you have got your names mixed up. Let me know where Oliver came from?

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-07-26 14:07:23Z

ah ha !!!
that one worked.
Oliver is my Grandfather, and with the dearth of identifiable males in this line, I am keen to learn more !

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

ancestryhistory — 2011-07-26 14:02:29Z

I am definitely still interested
have always had trouble posting here.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

christinerubinace — 2011-07-26 12:45:44Z

In what way is it incorrect. I have the Birth Certificate of their son William and I have the Marriage Certificate of George Senior and Ann Rowley.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

Bryans1937 — 2011-07-25 20:38:07Z

The information you have about George and Ann Senior (nee Rowley) is incorrect.

Re: senior

seniorymorrison — 2011-07-08 18:52:23Z

There is a 2 volume history of the 'Jews of the Netherlands Antillies by Emmenuel, which gives several documented pieces on the sephardim that came there from Amsterdam mainly. Marriages, deeds etc are all included. This includes the SENIOR family from which I descend. I am from Trinidad , my grandfather born in Venezuela, but all before him from Curacao. The Amsterdam Senior family branches that made their way to Curacao. 4 brothers,have their roots in Amarante, a Portuguese town settled by Spaniards, including marranos. They left there whilst Portugal was incorporated into Spain for Constantinople, then Venice and finally holland. This all took place within 20 years, between 1580 and about 1593. There is every indication that they are the same family that had earlier been resident in Segovia and Guadlajara in Spain a century before. Their deepest traceable origin is On~a in spain as well. In Curacao and Coro, Venezuela branches of them were practicing Jews.
I am very versed in Trinidad history and do not in any way see protestant or jewish people being allowed to own plantations anywhere in Trinidad before 1798. The various Cedulas only permitted Catholics to do so.
Such ownership may have been permitted in Tobago which at that time was separated from Trinidad.
And so the claim in the original post 'We know that the brothers Nassau Thomas Senior and Ascanius William Senior had plantations in Dominica, Babados, Trinidad & Tobago' is not accurate....unless of course it is meant after 1798, an untenabe date.
There are however Senior Seraiva people living in Barbados in the earlier 1700s who were land owners.

Re: Hemsworth Seniors :John [1751] - Martha [1800]- Mary [1837] -Elizabeth [1858] - Oliver

Bryans1937 — 2011-06-11 18:18:34Z

Not sure if this query is still active, but the people you refer to Elizabeth Tottington Martha and Elizabeth et al are my relatives. Are you still there and interested?

Re: Valentine senior

AnneTjaden — 2011-06-06 03:12:43Z

Hi - My name is Anne (Stinehart) Tjaden. I'm just starting into genealogy, but I am actually the current holder of Charles Berry Senior's Civil War letters. I look forward to sifting through the info I got from my great-grandmother (Esther Senior Stinehart) on the family, as well as these online resources. Right now I have some messed up notes, but am glad to read here that Valentine (Reuben Valentine in some notes I have) is C.B.'s dad. I also have a photograph I hope to scan which I believe is of CB Senior and his family.

Jane Senior b. 1803

peterjshaigh — 2011-05-23 01:31:47Z

My Jane was born in Woolly Royston, Yorkshire about 1803. Her father was Christopher Senior and she married William Haigh (1808 - 1882) on 19 Dec 1833, in Woolly Royston. She had at least 8 Children, but her Joseph b.1843 in Holmfirth is my connection. Does anyone have futher details of Jane and her ancestors - please

Peter Haigh

Re: Senior's in your family - possibly East Riding in Yorkshire

amandasnr2 — 2011-04-16 15:12:19Z

I Orignally I had issues tracing the Senior’s in Yorkshire because my father Stephen Senior and his brother Andrew have not maintained contact with their father Joseph which means I have had a great deal of trouble tracing anything.

Unfortunately all the information I have is very limited due to the usual restraints of divorce. I understand My grand-dad (Joseph, whom I have never met) remarried to one D Gibson in 1979, previously married to my grandmother veronica Bye in 1959 aged just 21. My father and uncle remained with my gran and moved to Rochdale, Lancs.

I have now managed to trace the senior side of my family back six generations with the help of census, archives, certificates and other members trees. I have listed the information I have, and would be delighted to find others whom I am linked to.

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1st Generation

Steven Thomas Senior who is my dad, was born 18Dec 1960 in Howdenshire, York.

Father: Joseph Senior born on 25 Feb1938 Yorkshire.

Mother: Veronica M Bye born May 1941 Bulmer, Yorkshire.

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2nd Generation (Parents)

Joseph Senior was born on 25 Feb. 1938 in York, Yorkshire. He married 2nd Veronica May Bye.

Father: George Ernest Senior was born on 19 Jul. 1905 in Scarborough, Yorkshire, England.

Mother: Isabella Wilson was born on 27 May 1904 Yorkshire and died in Sep.1995 in York.

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3rd Generation (Grandparents)

George Ernest Senior was born on 19 Jul. 1905 in Scarborough. He married Isabella Wilson ( Isabella was born on 27 May 1904 in Yorkshire - East Riding and died in Sep. 1995 in Yok)

Other events in the life of George Ernest Senior

Occupation Apr 11 1938 General Labour
Occupation 22nd feb 1930 Dealer

Father: Albert Senior was born in Jan. 1878 in Yorkshire - West Riding, United Kingdom.

Mother: Rose Smith was born in 1873 in York.

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4th Generation (Great-grandparents)

Albert Senior was born in Jan. 1878 in Yorkshire - West Riding, United Kingdom. He married rose Smith (D.O.B 1873) in 1899 in York.

Other events in the life of Albert Senior

Baptism May 30 1878 York, Yorkshire, England

Father: John Senior was born in 1840 in York, Yorkshire, England and died on 19 Jun. 1882 in York, Yorkshire, England.

Mother: . Eva Evangeline Davies was born in 1853 in Sigglesthorne, Yorkshire, England and died in 1909 in York, Yorkshire, England.

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5th Generation (Great(2)-grandparents)

John Senior was born in 1840 in York, Yorkshire, England and died on 19 Jun. 1882 in York, Yorkshire, England. He married Eva Evangeline Davies in 1874 in York.

Father: Luke Senior was born in 1810 in Royston, Yorkshire, England and died in 1880 in York, Yorkshire, England.

Mother: Maria Senior was born in 1811 in Royston, Yorkshire and died in Oct. 1877 in East Riding, Yorkshire.

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This is has far as i have got with the direct line (i have many children and siblings but was hoping maybe some of this information may ring a bell

Re: Senior's in your family - possibly East Riding in Yorkshire

amandasnr2 — 2011-04-16 15:11:01Z

I dont seem to have uncovered any allen's oe helen's as of yet but have got further back yet... please see me update which I have pasted in as i have since posted an update... :)

Re: Senior's in your family - possibly East Riding in Yorkshire

amandasnr2 — 2011-04-16 15:09:03Z

Hi

I have a two luke seniors in my family, i have found out alot more which i have included as i have since posted an update.

Re: Senior's in your family - possibly East Riding in Yorkshire

Seniorg1 — 2011-04-13 00:42:55Z

Hello,

I read your post and my father is from Lancaster, Lancashire. He is Allen Wilson Senior. I would have to ask him the origin of his middle name. He was an only child. Father was Allen William Senior, mother was Helena Fisher.

Thank you,
Gary Senior

Re: Senior's in your family - possibly East Riding in Yorkshire

jsenior173 — 2011-04-02 16:03:56Z

I'm also searching for Seniors in West Riding, Luke Senior, my Great Grandfather, his wife was Emma (nee Craggs), had possibly 5 children: Tom, Marion, Frank, Beatrice and Clifford. No info on any of these yet. Perhaps relatives of yours? regards. Chris.