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Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

fionashale — 2010-01-27 22:33:01Z

My father was an Anthony Joseph Shale, brn in Devizes, Wiltshire, England. His father was Wilfred Shale.

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

cpl99 — 2009-08-28 01:18:52Z

Hi Bernadette

I did some more digging this morning and found some good evidence that I have the right William.
A Benjamin Brad/Bradd was one of the fencibles who came to NZ from Ireland on the 'Oriental Queen' the same year as William & Simeon (1849).
On Williams marriage record to Ann Merrett on 1/5/1854 in Sydney, a Benjamin Brad and Jane Merrett witnessed. On the 12/6/1854 Jane Merrett and Benjamin Bradd married & William & Ann Shale witnessed.
Benjamin & Jane had 3 children (1st named William)in Sydney area and later died in Sydney.
It doesn't seem that Brad is a common name and it's possible that William simply lied on his marriage about being a bachelor.
What do you think?
Carol

Looking for Shale or Shales

bernadettesiebert — 2009-08-27 07:29:28Z

Hi again,
The problem with the 2 William Shales is getting confirmation.
Both born Staffordshire about 1800.
NZ William's wife died 1850 but AUS William says single when married in 1855.
NZ William did not die or remarry in NZ.
NZ William is on 1841 census: Bath Lane, Rushall, STS, after he retired from the Marines.

What we need is William on a shipping list from NZ to AUS. And I wonder if any of NZ William's children passed on what happened to their father? 'Disappeared to AUS' would be good.

I do like that both Williams have Rhoda in their near descendants, it's not a common name.

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

cpl99 — 2009-08-26 10:44:43Z

Hi Bernadette

I have had some spare time so tackling family tree again. Did you get the copy of death certificate that I sent you for William Shale (1801-1859).

I am searching for more info on the William Shale "Fencible" from the Berhampore 1849 to see if he's possibly my GG Grandfather. I found info on Simeon Shale (pension allocation & death record) after they arrived, but can't find anything on William. Do you have any further info to help me on this? Do you have the census record for William & his family from 1841?
Carol
ps Was the Smith's that they came over with their in-laws

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

cpl99 — 2009-08-26 10:29:22Z

Hi Dale

I don't think I've ever spoken to you before. I am trying to trace info on a William Shale (my Great Great Grandfather on paternal side) I have a copy of his death certificate (d. 1859)which says he was born in staffordshire in england in 1801. He married Ann Merrett in Sydney in 1854 and in 1855 they had a son Edwin Joseph (Edwin Joseph is responsible for the adding of the "s" to Shale & he had lots of children (Port Macquarie area). I am having trouble tracing back from there. I did find a promising record of a William in NZ who came from staffordshire as part of the 'Fencibles'in 1849. He was born around same time, but unable to substantiate at this time.
Are you married to the same line?

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

showellgl — 2009-06-21 12:18:29Z

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Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

showellgl — 2009-06-21 12:13:07Z

Yes, william Walter and Frances Kathleen, nne Hall. They are now deceased. They had 11 children. Robert, Carol, David, Peter, Pamela, Terry, Jenny, Colin, Philip, Michael and Alan. Alan and Terry are deceased.

Looking for Shale or Shales

bernadettesiebert — 2009-06-21 08:22:04Z

Yes:)
Would his parents be William & Frances nee Hall?
I have 10 children for them. I'd love to exchange information.
Bernadette

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

showellgl — 2009-06-17 13:59:29Z

My friend, Colin Shale. His father was William Shale from Birmingham, U.K. Colin has eight brothers. Is this of interest to you?

Looking for Shale or Shales

bernadettesiebert — 2009-02-21 19:56:07Z

Hi Susan,
Are your grandparents William Shale & Bessie Goodhind?
I'd love to exchange information.

Bernadette

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

sbr24915 — 2009-01-25 21:25:23Z

Hello there, my married name is Susan Brent. My maiden name is Susan Shale. My father was Keith William Shale who lived in Essendon in Melbourne, Victoria. His father was William Shale but he died in the 1970's. As a boy my father (I think) lived in Kyneton, Victoria.

kind regards
Susie

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

daleshales54 — 2008-11-15 11:16:14Z

Hi Carol

I have married into the Shales Family hear in Australia,is there anything I can help you with.

Regards
Dale
PS not sure if I have been in contact with you before.

Re: Looking for Shale or Shales

cleach68 — 2007-10-24 03:53:33Z

Dear Bernadette

Sorry it took so long to reply - had to have a break from family tree as was taking up too much time and chores weren't being done.
I don't know when William was born. I will try to get copy of death certificate or son's birth certificate to get more info.
He married in 1854 in Sydney, so I've been concentrating my search for approx 1820-1835.
Sorry might have more to go on later.
Thanks
Carol

Looking for Shale or Shales

bernadettesiebert — 2007-04-14 09:09:12Z

Hi Carol,
Do you have any idea when this william was born? Does it say on his death certificate? Or perhaps on his marriage to Ann Merrett?
I have information on alot of Shales in England, with a little more information we may be able to match him to a family,
Regards
Bernadette

Re: SHALE-SLOOP-JOHNSON-SITES

kshale144 — 2006-03-17 22:00:20Z

Ralph Sayres forwarded me your posting. I am descended from Frederick F. Shale, Christian's older Brother. As I am sure Ralph has told you, we have much on the family we have been corresponding/collaborating fro nearly 15 years. I do have a letter which John wrote to Christian from Helena just 2 days before he was killed on Union stationery, I would be happy to send a scan of it to you. Please drop me an email. Which of Christian's sons are you descended from?

Kevin Shale
Boston Ma.

Josiah Shale

bernadettesiebert — 2005-07-08 03:52:11Z

Hi there,
I have 11 children of Josiah & Elizabeth. Who are you descended from?

Josiah Shale

bernadettesiebert — 2005-07-08 03:52:11Z

Hi, are you Murray from Wellington? I believe we've corresponded before.
You are descended from Herbert Percy Sharp & Grace Shale, d/o Josiah & Eleanor.
How's your research going? Any further back?
Please email me siebert@maxnet.co.nz

Re: SHALE-SLOOP-JOHNSON-SITES

2005-06-05 21:41:36Z

Hi Kevin, Thanks that would be swell if you could send me a copy of that letter, i`ve got a copy of a copy of it that is hard to make out. I believe that you originally sent it to my mom, Hope Shale, who married Wilfred (my dad) who is the son of Martin Shale, the son of Fred Shale( son of Christian). How did you get it? Has anyone ever found out what happened to the son of Sgt. John Shale`s that was sent to New Orleans with that man? Later, Steve

Re: SHALE-SLOOP-JOHNSON-SITES

2005-06-03 11:42:42Z

Hey Steve,
I was never notified you replied to this. Yes we are cousins. Christian Shale was the brother of my GGG grandmother, Mary Shale Seybold. Please contact me at zap3048@yahoo.com, or ralph.sayers@navy.mil. I have some info on the John Horace Shale family, including a copy of the letter he wrote from Helena Ar, just before he was killed. I would love to find his grave. We also have a cousin Kevin Shale of Boston who has done research including trips to Germany. Are the Souders of S. Dakota still alive? They came to see my grandmother in the late 1970s. We got alot of copies of really old pictures of the Christian Shale family from them.

Roger SHALE, obit 1931

SStrout — 2005-05-06 16:26:26Z

Evening Star, 27 Dec 1931
Washington DC

Roger Shale
On Thursday, December 24, 1931, at his residence, 4400 Hawthorne street, Roger, beloved husband of Mary Mayo Shale. Services at his late residence on Sunday, December 27, at 4 PM.

Re: Josiah Shale

2005-02-19 02:21:49Z

I am decended from William Denham Shale who was the youngest of the children by my list.

Josiah Shale

2005-02-19 02:19:27Z

To Bernadette.
I am decended from William Denham Shale who was the youngest of the eleven children of Josiah Shale

John Grapes & Eliza Shale or Hale

Acrotiri — 2005-01-20 21:33:40Z

Looking for further information on John Grapes bc.1813 Newsells, Hertfordshire who married Eliza Shale or Hale bc.1814 Reed, Herts. They had a daughter Emma born 19 Nov 1846 Barkaway, Herts who is my ancestor. I dont know any other siblings names.

Re: Josiah Shale

2005-01-13 06:19:47Z

Caroline Shale is unknown to me thankyou very much.

Re: Josiah Shale

2005-01-10 19:21:46Z

Is there a Caroline Shale related to the two names you have given. She had links with this church in Wolverhampton and I would like to know more. Thank you

Re: SHALE-SLOOP-JOHNSON-SITES

2004-12-24 18:15:51Z

Hi Ralph, I`m descended from Christian Shale, who was a son of Ferdinand Shale(Scheel?) by his first wife, whereas John H. Shale was a son of Ferdinand`s by his second wife I believe( this is all from memory, so forgive me for any mistakes). BUT, I am a Civil War buff so I have been researching Sgt. John Shale quite extensively for the last five years or so. He probably lies in an unmarked grave at Memphis or is still at or around Battery C in some unknown site. I know from pension records that most or all of the children wound up with guardians as you said and there is mention of Henry I believe going into partnership with someone in a hardware store in missouri about 20 years after the war. As I recall he was listed on a school board of some sorts about 1890 also, but I could be mistaken( it`s Christmas eve now but when I get a chance I`ll look up the info in my papers). Did you Know about the other son who was supposedly given away before the war to a man around New Orleans? I`ll look forward to hearing from you, maybe we can fill in a few blanks for each other...........Steve

SHALE-SLOOP-JOHNSON-SITES

2004-10-09 00:52:22Z

Hello
I am from PA and I have an ancestor that went to MO. (Amazonia?) His name was John Horace Shale, b.26 Jun 1827 and was killed at the battle of Helena Ark. on 4 July 1863. His first wife was Elizabeth Sloop married 18 Apr 185_. They had 3 sons Henry B Shale (b 9 Aug 1853), John C. (b12 Apr 1855) and George E. (b. 15 Apr 1858). Elizabeth dies 23 Apr 1858, burial Mt. Maria Cem St Joseph MO. John remarries Rebecca Johnson on Aug. 18 1859 has a daughter Alice Victoria b. 1 Jan 1863. John is then killed in battle. Rebecca gives up the boys, remarries Mr. Meadow Sites. Desperately trying to find out what happend to the Shale boys. I have much info on the Shale lines from PA going back to the late 1600s. Thanks
Ralph Sayers

Looking for Shale or Shales

2003-11-22 11:41:31Z

I'm looking to trace our family history and am looking for a William Shale who I believe came from England(sorry no idea where). He died in Australia in 1859. He married in 1854 to an Ann Merrett and had a son named Edwin Joseph Shale in 1855. I think his father may have been a William also. Can anyone help?

Alexander Blair Shales

CarolineHomewood — 2003-07-24 02:25:54Z

Am interested in finding our cousin, Alex Shale. He was born Jan 1884, in Lewis Co, N.Y. He is first mentioned on the census of 1915. We know from the newspaper the story of his birth, attended only by 2 farm boys who went for help when their sister hemmoraged. He stayed at Cummins Rd, which is locally known as Blair Corners for the Blair families which had several homes in the area. I am related to the Robert and John Blair of that area. We know nothing of schooling or trade for Alex,and surely would like any info we can get.
It is thought that his mother may have been slightly retarded, but noone can tell us for sure. Thanks, Caroline

Elizabeth, William Setzer

2002-10-18 19:01:51Z

I am looking for Elizabeth Shale (Scholl, Sholl). She maried William "Wilhelm" Micheal Setzer abt. 1792. She was born Aug 17, 1767 and died in1855 in PA. They had 9 children. Any info would be helpful.

Sophia Shale Van Camp of Canada and Mi

PamelaFoster44 — 2002-08-17 22:34:03Z

I am looking for the ancestors of Sophia Shale who married Jesse Van Camp 12-22-1839 in Newcastle District in Ontario, Canada. They later moved to Sanilac County, Michigan. Jesse's parents were Mary Burke and Jacob Van Camp.

Alice Shale London

lanniet1 — 2002-08-06 22:41:57Z

Looking for any info on Alice Shale born approx 1851 London, father Richard mother unknown. Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks
Leanne
Australia

SHALE

edellisus — 2002-04-02 15:10:16Z

I DO NOT KNOW IF JOSIAH SHALE AND ELIZABETH JACKSON ARE ANY RELATION. I AM TRYING TO TRACE ARTHUR SHALE WHO MARRIED ELIZABETH AND LIVED AT ZOAR STREET WOLVERHAMPTON WERE HE DIED IN 1894 LEAVING 6 CHILDREN ARTHUR, LEONARD, NELL, ELIZABETH, HARRY AND FRED

Josiah Shale

mual — 2002-01-19 17:03:08Z

Any knowledge on a Josiah Shale who married an Elizabeth Jackson at St Peters Or Collegiate in Wolverhampton England in 1803.Family history would be greatful

Athur Shale Elizabeth

mual — 2002-01-19 17:03:08Z

To Elaine Ellis,sorry looking up my records.The people you mention are not related as far as I can see

Re: Sophia Shale Van Camp of Canada and Mi

paw2u — 2001-10-22 00:51:20Z

Hello ,I too am researching this name ,the ones that I am after originated inWednesbury Dudley and wolverhampton UK
1700s ,one of whom was Kinbury Shale she married Richard Haughton,in1763,I have also found some poss the same fam, in NZealand,cheers Pat in Canada