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Samuel Newman Shaw

hopeSnell222 — 2012-05-24 06:05:21Z

Samuel was born in Dec. 1884 in Elizabeth PA. He died in the flu epidemic in1919 in Elizabeth PA. He married Theodosia V. Householder. 3 Daughters. Theodosia, Elizabeth, and Grace. Only Grace survived into adulthood. His parents were Joseph SHaw and Mary Picton. I am looking for any info on him. He is my great grandfather. Thanks

Re: James Shaw s/o S. D. Shaw and Sarah Moore

reeses051 — 2012-05-22 17:36:11Z

I know this is a very old message, but did it prove to be the son of Soloman and Sarah Shaw? I have just started researching my ancestry. My great-great grandmother was Malinda Battell Shaw. Thanks for any info.

Re: Hon. Robert Gould Shaw

ladybug31191 — 2012-05-21 21:44:29Z

My Dad's mother's last name is shaw and I was also told I was related to Robert Shaw so I was trying to find out info about my family history also

JEREMY H. SHAW of Guin, AL

gilann — 2012-05-19 13:34:09Z

Jeremy H. SHAW b. February 21, 1826, d January 15, 1900. m Margot Ann GUIN. From the area of Guin/Winfield, Alabama.

They had at least one child, a son, Jason Hickson SHAW, b August 25, 1855, d February 10, 1933 in Ashford, AL., m Mary Jane Taylor, b November 18, 1857, Winfield, AL., d July 15, 1924, Ashford, AL.

If anyone recognizes any of this info and can contribute any additional, please advise. I have more that I will exchange.

Thank you in advance.

Gil Roberts

Re: Shaw nr Richmond, Yorkshire c1800

ChristineP59 — 2012-05-14 19:30:42Z

Hi dave just wondering if you have come accross the were abouts of a sarah ann Corner in your search in the shaw family. she is the daughter of Elizaneth shaw 1855 and john corner. Ive got her in the 1881 census as grandaughter visting thomas and eliza but cant find her or her parents anywhere after that I wonder if shes emigrated?
Good luck with the search of the shaws
Christine

Re: Looking for Info on Billy SHaw

marthamcvay — 2012-05-13 14:37:28Z

Sorry, I don't think so. My family was from Elberton- Hartwell area of Ga. You could be related to the Shaws that have a W estbrook conection. They have conection to west Ga. area. Don't know much about them. I have a cousin who was married to a Westbrook. If you find a connection let me know. Found my Billy Shaw in Hartwell. Wish you Good Luck! Martha

Re: Henry Shaw-Louisa Witte (Witty)

christinecs13 — 2012-05-13 13:01:47Z

I am a descendant of Louisa Witte and Henry Schall. I know nothing about Louisa's siblings and parents; only that she came from Germany in the 1840s. She lived in East St. Louis, Illinois and St. Louis, Missouri and married Henry Schall in 1860. It seems like they could be the same people you are looking for... I'd love to find out!

Re: Looking for Info on Billy SHaw

jessiemlewis2003 — 2012-05-13 12:29:46Z

My birth name is Billy Sue Shaw. I was adopted at birth. My birth mother is Virginia Lois Shaw whose parents John C. Shaw and Dorothy L. Shaw were both born in Jacksonville , Ga. Could there be a connection?

Obit of David E. Shaw 1909

MaryRunyonHanshew — 2012-05-12 20:15:18Z

From the Chatsworth Plaindealer
Chatsworth,Livingston,Illinois

DAVID E. SHAW
FEBRUARY 26, 1909

Departed this life on the 8th of February, 1909, Major David E. Shaw, at his home near Belleair, Florida, situated on the beautiful Bay of Clearwater.
Major Shaw was born in Quincy, Mass. in 1824, but went west in 1850. After passing through many vicissitudes on the frontier he returned to Illinois, where he entered in the U.S. volunteer army on September 24th, 1861, in Company 1, 36th Regiment, Illinois Volunteers. He was present with his regiment at the battle of Pea Ridge, Ark., where he rendered valuable services, for which he received a lieutenant's commission from R. Yates, governor of Illinois. He was a charter member of two G.A.R. posts, also was charter member and W.M. of three different lodges of Masons in this and other states.
He was wounded in the battle of Perryville, Ky., on the 8th of October, 1862. He resigned the United States service and entered the state services of Indiana and was commissioned major by Governor O.P. Morton.
He leaves a wife and two sons, eight grandchildren, twenty-six great grandchildren and three great-great grandchildren.
The funeral services were conducted by Rev. R.W. Hines, of Clearwater, at his residence, after which his remains were taken in charge by Clearwater Lodge, No. 127, F. and A.M. and conveyed to the cemetery at Belleair and interred with Masonic honors.---West Hillsborough (Fla.) Press.

Added by the Plaindealer: Major Shaw resided on a farm northeast of Chatsworth for many years and was well known to the older residents of this community. He left here a number of years ago, and had since made his home in Florida.

Susan C Shaw / Windle / Hibbert.

dyanye — 2012-05-12 18:26:39Z

I am looking to find Susan C Shaw, born 1950, mother Hilda Windle, father Thomas Mervyn Shaw.I am looking for information on Susans Grandma Olice Eva Shaw nee Hibbert, and her father Mervyn. Last know to be living in Whitwell, Chesterfield Derbyshire. Please contact me at dyefxh@btinternet.com

theresa mary shaw

xmwahx — 2012-05-12 10:02:44Z

Hi i am looking for any information anybody has on the where abouts of my sister theresa mary shaw or my farther john shaw. Theresa married in 1980 in preston. All i know of her is she amrried someone call reginald barker. My father was last known to be in the burnley area in 1967 i dont have alot of information but would be great if i could get some more x

Re: John Shaw B 1670 D 1722 M Susannah Haworth

Jared1968 — 2012-05-12 04:47:21Z

"If we are talking the same John Shaw B1670 in England and D 1722 in Bucks Co., PA. His dad was James Shaw B 12-24-1626 Halifax Co., Yorkshire Eng. D 1679 Middleboro, Plymouth Co. Mass. Married to Marcy C. Mitchell 12-24-1652 , Plymouth MA.
His father was John Shaw B 1596 Eng. D 2-15-1688 Plain Dealing, Plymouth Co., Ma. Married to Alice Phillips B 1606 England D 3-6-1564 Plymouth Co. MA. married 1621 Eng. His father was Richard Shaw."

The above is an awful tangle of authentic information and misidentifications. Where to begin? How about with "John Shaw B 1596" and his alleged wife "Alice Phillips"?

The John Shaw who was born 1596 (actually circa 1597) is my mother's direct male-line ancestor. His parents are unknown, as is his place of birth. Whatever his father's name was, it is extremely unlikely to have been "Richard," since that name never appears among his children, grandchildren, or great-grandchildren. He did live at Plain Dealing, but he did not die there, and he did not die in 1688. He actually died about 1663/4, probably at Middleboro, Massachusetts. His wife (perhaps his second wife, and if so not the mother of his children) was named Alice, died 1654 (not 1564), but her maiden name is unknown.

There was a John Shaw in Massachusetts who married an Alice Phillips around this general period of time -- but those are a different John and Alice. The John Shaw who married Alice Phillips was born 1630 in Halifax, England, the son of Abraham Shaw of Halifax.

Now then, my ancestor John Shaw did have a son named Sgt. James Shaw, who was born perhaps circa 1626, presumably in England. James' wife was named Mary Mitchell (not Marcy C. Mitchell -- an impossible name, since English women in those days did not have middle names, and thus she could not have a middle initial), and they had two sons and at least two daughters. Their children were born in the 1650s and 1660s. One of their sons was named John.

However, all of the children of James and Mary died without leaving any surviving issue. This we know because a deed of Nov. 1699 shows James' land in Dartmouth had been inherited by his nephew Lt. Jonathan Shaw. If James had any living children or grandchildren, they would have inherited his land rather than his younger brother's son.

Therefore it is impossible to trace a lineage back to any child of St. James Shaw of Plymouth and Dartmouth, Mass.

Note also that the John Shaw who was born 1670 would have been too young to be one of the children of Sgt. James Shaw. Plus we have the statement that John Shaw was born in England, not Massachusetts.

It is clear, then, that John Shaw, born 1670 in England, who settled in Pennsylvania, could not possibly be the John Shaw, son of Sgt. James Shaw of Massachusetts. No one is descended from James' son John.

Re: SHAW, James (m. Elizabeth McBride) b. abt 1779, Antrim, Ire > PA

CMillsop — 2012-05-09 19:03:46Z

It does sound similar but I don't think he was married prior to Elizabeth. So at this point I can't connect him. He died in 1858 and his tombstone says 80 years at the time of death so 1778 or 1779 as DOB I sure. Thanks for your reply!

Re: SHAW, James (m. Elizabeth McBride) b. abt 1779, Antrim, Ire > PA

JONESHAW — 2012-05-09 05:13:16Z

The only person simular I have is
James Shaw b abt 1785
Parents John Saw and Sarah Mciver married 1751. Donaghmore, Tyrone N. Ireland
He was their 8th child of 10.
I have him married to Pheobe Mackenzie from a previous family researcher long gone and nothing else on him. Let me know if you can connect to him.

Re: William Henry Fletcher Shaw - Naomi Ruth Beech; Liverpool, Lancashire, England

bookaddictau — 2012-05-06 06:18:41Z

Unfortunately, no I haven't. I live in hope though :)

Re: William Henry Fletcher Shaw - Naomi Ruth Beech; Liverpool, Lancashire, England

casscott — 2012-05-05 23:33:31Z

Hey on this note, did you ever find anything regarding the first wife and baby.

Re: William Henry Fletcher Shaw - Naomi Ruth Beech; Liverpool, Lancashire, England

casscott — 2012-05-05 23:31:25Z

Hi Robbie, No Shalana was doing a project for school and the teacher go excited over the fact we had a convict int he family and wanted to know if we had any more info. So I went looking, printed out a few things helped her draw a basic family tree etc. Oddly the subject was Japanese.

Re: William Henry Fletcher Shaw - Naomi Ruth Beech; Liverpool, Lancashire, England

bookaddictau — 2012-05-05 15:16:15Z

Hi Cassie, I posted the query :(
Are you doing your tree now? Robyn

Re: Shaw nr Richmond, Yorkshire c1800

daveshaw175 — 2012-05-04 11:26:11Z

That's the family. I've picked up some of your Thomas's family from others of that side. I come from this Robert Johnson Shaw. There's also another Robert Johnson Shaw, possibly from Richard's family. Richard seems to be the son of Thomas Shaw and Elizabeth Johnson. The struggle is in going backwards from there. If the other RJ Shaw is Richard's brother, then Thomas may be from Middleton Tyas.

SHAW, James (m. Elizabeth McBride) b. abt 1779, Antrim, Ire > PA

CMillsop — 2012-05-04 02:59:03Z

Trying to find out who his parents were if possible.They came from Antrim, N. Ireland and settled in the western PA area in Mercer Co. and Venango Co. that I know of so far. Thanks for any help! James and Elizabeth had the following children:
Anna -
Samurel -
William -
William - 1806
Robert - 1810
Nancy - 1814
Mary - 1818
Elizabeth Jane - 1820
James C. - 1820
Hugh - 1822
Margaret - 1826

Re: Archibald and Catherine Shaw

williecrawford_1 — 2012-05-03 21:16:47Z

There was a ELIZABETH SHAW b 1797 CUMBERLAND CO N C FATHER-JOHN SHAW SHE MARRIED WILLIAM STEWART IN CUMBERLAND N C 1820.
HOPE THIS HELPS

Re: Shaw nr Richmond, Yorkshire c1800

ChristineP59 — 2012-05-03 16:21:53Z

Hi Im not sure if this is the same family but Ive got elizabeth shaw 1762 her son Richard B 1804 married Jane?B 1807 children John 1828, THOMAS 1830,robety johnson 1833 Richard 1835, ann 1837. elizabeth 1839. Mary 1841,Jne 1846.

Thomas married Eliza Tolson Their daughter sarah was my Gt Grandmother, she married twice and also had an illigitimate child ( my Grandfather)

Shaw and Clerk

SherriSmith84 — 2012-05-03 14:57:27Z

Looking for information on Niel Shaw and Rachell Clerk. Niel born 1780-1790. Looking for marriage dates, children, parents, when/where born in Scotland and where did they go!

Re: Shaw surname in Lancashire UK

djl79ewing — 2012-05-03 14:42:33Z

Sorry , no obvious links....and having looked a bit further afield none there either.

Mary E Shaw

tvoneil — 2012-04-30 19:12:06Z

I'm searching for a Mary E. Shaw, with a possible last name of Pelston or Polston. Mother Katie Polston, father Jim (james) shaw. DOB around 1944, cumberland, KY.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Re: Shaw surname in Lancashire UK

ann3s1mm0n1t3 — 2012-04-29 18:37:04Z

I have records of David Shaw born Dalton-in-Furness c.1841,
his son David Shaw born Lindal-in-Furness c.1864, his son David Stanley Shaw also born Dalton-in-Furness, 1890

Re: Shaw Prince Edward Island

triplebay — 2012-04-29 14:20:11Z

Hey Anne
Wondering if this will reach you and rehashing my Shaw tree. Because of the death cert of Barbara Shaw by husband Alex saying her father was Neil I am still not 100% convinced without evidence that Barbara is actually my Archie and Catherines ....I don't have Archie and Flora having a Barb either...this is Athol Robertsons tree...my Neil 1809 seemed to young to have her.

I did not in Matthews line a Catherine Shaw m Auley Mathews I wonder who she was.
Did your family have picture of Barbara around somewhere, one would think they might. It sure would help to compare to my own - I have recently found more pictures.

Hope all is well
Sherri

Re: Shaw surname in Lancashire UK

djl79ewing — 2012-04-29 08:37:14Z

I have connections to Shaws from Dalton in Furness. As you may have discovered there were lot of Shaws in that area. Can you provide some full names and year of birth and I shall see if we appear to have any matches.

Re: Shaw surname in Lancashire UK

jmcgie184 — 2012-04-28 17:48:42Z

I have a Samuel Shaw b.June 1779 m. Martha Wilson, March 2, 1791 in Great Budworth, Cheshire, England. He died in 1841. Martha was born in Lower Walton, Lancashire, England and d. in 1853 in Cheshire, New Hampshire. They had a son Joseph Shaw b. in 1802 in England; d.July 25, 1887 in Runcorn, Cheshire, England. He m. Mary Elliott b. Jan. 20, 1806 in England and d. 1885 in Runcorn, Cheshire, England. Their son, George S. Shaw b. Feb 15, 1830 in Kent, England d. April 27, 1895 In Kinsley, Edwards, Kansas. George S. is my GrGrandfather. If you have any other info, I would be interested.

Re: Gabriel E Shaw Lucinda Wolf and Nancy Jane Wolf

ryancline00869 — 2012-04-27 22:45:00Z

Well I would ping you on ancestry.com except I don't have a paid membership to it. Do to finances I am trying to save up in order to do it. Do you have any pictures you could email me? My email is ryancline8069@gmail.com

Re: Shaw surname in Lancashire UK

lesleyknapp1957 — 2012-04-27 20:03:55Z

Hi Anne,
Sorry, I'm not aware of a David in my family. My great-grandfather was Samuel Shaw, his brother was Francis Askew Shaw, his father was John Shaw. Samuel was born about 1854.
Good luck with the research.
Lesley

Re: Gabriel E Shaw Lucinda Wolf and Nancy Jane Wolf

BrianMatthewShaw — 2012-04-27 16:02:49Z

I have Gabriel born in Brown County, OH, based on census records and Civil War service records. Most of these source documents I have uploaded to my Ancestry tree. Ping me if you'd like access. :)

Re: Gabriel E Shaw Lucinda Wolf and Nancy Jane Wolf

ryancline00869 — 2012-04-27 15:49:56Z

Gabriel Ernest Shaw Sr. was born in June of 1818 Brown County, Iowa, he died on 08 June 1901 in Bedford, Taylor, Iowa. His wife was Lucinda Wolf was born 11 November 1822 in Brown County, Iowa died 21 August in Hawleyville, Page, Iowa. I will be going to work here in a little bit but I will be back soon that way I can make a list of all of their children. In case you are wondering how I fall into this Shaw line I hope will help. My Great-Grandmother was Gladys Alma Shaw Cline (daughter of Gabriel Ernest Shaw Jr. & Millicent (Millie) Mae Young). Gladys' husband was Cloyd Emery Cline. Thier son was my grandfather Lloyd Cecil Cline Sr.

Re: William Henry Fletcher Shaw - Naomi Ruth Beech; Liverpool, Lancashire, England

casscott — 2012-04-27 11:30:00Z

Hi, your query was posted a long time ago but this man was also my ggg grandfather (father's side). I wondered if you ever found the information you needed. I have some since he came to Australia (where he eventually married someone else - where I descend from)and my cousin has done a lot of research on the family.

Re: Gabriel E Shaw Lucinda Wolf and Nancy Jane Wolf

peeshaw — 2012-04-26 22:32:06Z

Ryan, do you have any information on the birthplace of Gabriel, or perhaps his parents names or any of his siblings names? I am the ggg grandson of Gabriel Shaw. Direct Shaw line.

Archibald and Catherine Shaw

triplebay — 2012-04-25 22:58:11Z

Hi, does anyone have access to US City Directories 1821-1989? There appears on ancestory - I have no subscription - a Archibald and Catherine Shaw - no dates or information except it is recorded in City Directories....Is this one or one of many!

Also a John A Shaw and Catherine E Shaw

I am trying to see if their is an Archibald and Catherine Shaw born pre 1800 (1760-1785) in USA anywhere - best guess Mass, Maine or surrounding Eastern USA states.

Alvie E. Shaw

deborahsnyder52 — 2012-04-25 22:57:12Z

I am looking for information on my grandfather Alvie E Shaw .He married Cora lee Winters in wardel Mo. She was also married to his brother John he was killed in an accident and before his death he ask Alvie to marry and take care of her and his son Evert. I would like info on his parents I cant find a thing.

Re: Shaw

triplebay — 2012-04-25 21:18:17Z

Thanks Joy, not mine. I was hoping they might be much older showing up like 1821-1860 born in the late 1700's. Atleast now I can forget that trail~! Elimination works.

Re: Elizabeth Shaw Macdougall

triplebay — 2012-04-25 21:13:33Z

Hi Allan:

I am a Shaw on PEI with MacDougal connections as well via the Beer family. ARe you decendant of Allan Shaw son Donald Shaw up lot 50 and 58, etc....

I have been trying to connect with someone from up that way regarding Lamonts, etc....based on my theory LOL

I had been emailing with Donna MacKenzie and her Montague area Shaw's as well finding the connection between Athol Robertson line and Donna's and she thinks we are related, just can't figure it out, however I have since found some information on Angus Shaw 1791 to whom she thought Neil 1789 was a brother.

Love to chat

Re: Shaw

Joyful — 2012-04-25 21:02:15Z

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about John A Shaw
Name: John A Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Spouse: Catherine Shaw
Publication Title: Quincy, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1870

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about John A Shaw
Name: John A Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Spouse: Cath Shaw
Publication Title: Blackwell, Oklahoma, City Directory, 1936

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about John A Shaw
Name: John A Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Spouse: Catherine E Shaw
Publication Title: Canyon, Idaho, City Directory, 1915

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about John A Shaw Dr
Name: John A Shaw Dr
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1956
Street Address: 2959 Joan la Tel
Residence Place: Billings, Montana
Spouse: Kath Shaw
Publication Title: Billings, Montana, City Directory, 1956

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about John A Shaw
Name: John A Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1957
Street Address: 330 Hill
Residence Place: Bucyrus, Ohio
Occupation: Eng
Spouse: Cath Shaw
Publication Title: Bucyrus, Ohio, City Directory, 1957

Re: Shaw

Joyful — 2012-04-25 20:56:21Z

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about Archibald D Shaw
Name: Archibald D Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1933
Street Address: 17 Homestead at
Residence Place: Albany; Rensselaer, New York
Occupation: Elec Contr
Spouse: Katherine M Shaw
Publication Title: Albany, New York, City Directory, 1933

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about Archibald D Shaw
Name: Archibald D Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1934
Street Address: 17 Home-
Residence Place: Albany; Rensselaer, New York
Occupation: Elee Contr
Spouse: Katherine M Shaw
Publication Title: Albany, New York, City Directory, 1934

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about Archibald D Shaw
Name: Archibald D Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1940
Street Address: 110 Pine av N
Residence Place: Albany, New York
Occupation: Elec Contr
Spouse: Katherine C Shaw
Publication Title: Albany, New York, City Directory, 1940

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 (Beta) about Archibald H Shaw
Name: Archibald H Shaw
Gender: M (Male)
Residence Year: 1941
Street Address: 27 TenEyck av
Residence Place: Albany, New York
Occupation: Electn
Spouse: Katherine C Shaw
Publication Title: Albany, New York, City Directory, 1941

Those last two offer a couple of addresses to check on the 1940 census to see if it's who you are seeking.

Re: Mary Shaw--Hawaii

shelbyhand58 — 2012-04-23 07:24:37Z

Hi: I just saw your message about your grandmother Shaw living in Hawaii. My brother, Thomas A. Tackett, married Patricia Shaw in California and they moved to Hawaii, where her family lived.

If you will tell me more about your Shaw family, I will check with my former sister-in-law and see if there is any connection.

Shelby

Re: Gabriel E Shaw

shelbyhand58 — 2012-04-23 07:19:53Z

Larry, it is very interesting that you have Tackett ancestors. The only Shaw connection that I have is that my brother, Thomas A. Tackett, married Patricia Shaw in California. Thomas and Patricia went to Hawaii to visit her family and just never came back to live in the United States. They had two sons together, before divorcing.

Where are your Tackett family members from? Would be interested in learning a little about them.

Thank you.

Shelby

Re: Gabriel E Shaw Lucinda Wolf and Nancy Jane Wolf

ryancline84403 — 2012-04-23 05:01:59Z

Dear Brian,

Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Ryan Dee Marriott-Cline and I am the great, great grandson of Gabriel Ernest Shaw Jr. & Millicent (Millie) Mae Young and I have noticed that you been doing some family searching on our family line (The Shaw Family) and I would like to help in any way I can.

Re: Benjamin of the Anthony Shaw family line

j57bobby — 2012-04-22 17:27:51Z

i would like to see the article that you have on him..

Re: Benjamin of the Anthony Shaw family line

j57bobby — 2012-04-22 17:26:31Z

benham shaw is my 5th great grand-father i am doing my family ancestry. but i can find out who is parents were and before him..can you help me?

bobby shaw

SHAW SISTERS

williecrawford_1 — 2012-04-20 22:21:25Z

I am looking for my ggrandmother's parents. There were 4 sisters, Catherine,Nancy,AMANDA and Edith Shaw all b in Ga in the 1840's Later showed up in Covington Co Ala with a family name Elizabeth Shaw Stewart and William Stewart. The Stewarts were from Cumberland Co N C. She must be aunt to these girls. AMANDA was my ggrandmother. I want to know who their parents were. Can't find them before 1860 I suspect that Elizabeth SHAW Stewart's brother was their father..but do not know. CAN ANYONE HELP?

Re: Looking for Ancestry

jonesw61 — 2012-04-20 12:21:53Z

Lived next door to Charles Shaw in Seminole County, Fl. Visited Buford's daughter yesterday. She is 84 and was married to my uncle. Garland and my father were lifetime friends. will share what I know.

Re: Shaw, Attwood, Norcross

crusoe123 — 2012-04-19 21:32:25Z

If you have found 11 children, then the census says that there were 12, but 3 died. There are quite a few Shaw children dying at age 0, in Ulverston, so unless you have checked each one, then one of those babies could be your missing relative. I still think you have found her. There are no Minnie Shaw's registered in the years in question, in Ulverston, which is where the family remained, and where the parents were married, and the children were born.

Re: Shaw, Attwood, Norcross

djl79ewing — 2012-04-19 20:05:11Z

Thanks again for your help.
I only know of the existence of Minnie because I was given a funeral record relating to her brother Samuel who died in Canada in 1946. This contains references to those of his eleven siblings who were still living – including “Mrs Minnie Norcross of Lancashire”. (She was born in Lancashire and quite possibly had returned there in 1946.)
I have never been able to find any birth record, reference in census records, or any other records relating to her until I found her in the 1911 census. The fact that Agnes Shaw aged 58 born Gleaston, Lancashire was a visitor at the home of Minnie in that census confirmed that I had the “right” Minnie Norcross, the details matching those of her mother.
My failure to find records prior to 1911 census supports the view that Minnie and Martha Jane were one and the same person. There are one or two doubts and complications, however.
There was another Martha Shaw born in Gleaston in 1879 – the daughter of William and Elizabeth, christened 17/12/1879. “My” Martha was the daughter of Thomas and Agnes.
A Martha Jane Shaw, dau of Thomas and Agnes Shaw was christened 28/07/1778 at St Matthews, Dendron.
A Martha Jane Shaw died in Ulverston Q4 1907. She was aged 28, so born 1879
(Gleaston, Aldingham, Dendron and Ulverston are all within the same area.)
The 1911 census record for Thomas Shaw (who also included his wife Agnes on the return –almost certainly an error because she was visiting her daughter) informs us that Thomas and Agnes had 12 children. If Minnie and Martha are the same person I have only 11 names.
Another interesting fact is that the surname of the lodger at the Shaw home in 1881, Fawcett, is the name of the man Audrey Attwood married....so i shall see if i can find any connection.

I am telling you the above because I thought that you maybe interested, not because I am expecting you to spend any more time on my “mystery”.