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Re: John Shelby and Family

kd7300 — 2012-05-06 01:23:39Z

Spouse Caroline Sandstrom b abt 1840 Sweden

General John O. Shelby, aka Gen. JO

android — 2012-03-26 14:21:31Z

For those with a special interest in Gen. Jo Shelby, the cavalryman who fought for the Confederacy during the Civil War, I suggest (if not all ready reviewed)the well documented narrative by Shelby Foote titled THE CIVIL WAR, (paperback edition), First Vintage Books Edition, September 1986, Copyright 1963, Vol. II, pp. 776-778, 779. These pages describe the famous raid from Arkansas into Missouri and back in great detail. Some believe the results of this raid confirmed Gen. Jo as the greatest cavalryman for the Confederacy surpassing Forrest, Morgan and Quantrill. Shelby was promoted to Brigadier General as a result of this famous raid.

Ophelia Shelby

jeujeumarie — 2012-03-19 18:27:15Z

Hello, I am a ggrandaughter of an Emma Baham Hyde who was from Madisonville La. Her brother was Arthur Joseph Baham so maybe Ophelia was her sister-in-law. Arthur and Emma were two of about 13 children of Louis Baham and Rose Scarza. Rose died when Emma was five years old. I have info that Rose was part Choctaw and born around 1848 as a free woman of color. I don't know if these are your wife's people or not but it certainly sounds like they are the same people. Hope it helped.

Thanks for the possible lead

larrywernle — 2012-01-14 20:31:55Z

Thanks!

Re: Seeking Michael/John/Daughter Choate/Shoat b. in TN?>>1860 in Butler Co, MO>> 1870-1880 in Jackson Co, IL>> d. ?? date in ??

franciskeenan — 2012-01-14 19:02:52Z

Larry, I know nothing about the Shoate/Choate family histories having never encountered them and also having no kinship with respect thereto. I also am not familiar with the Shelbys in your message. With more time, I might be able to identify them. I am currently packing for an extended four month trip. I did, however, look at my treasured book by Johnnie M. Johnson titled REES AND MARY SHELBY: Ancestors & Descendants. There was one reference to a Shoat in the section concerning Thomas Shelby and Hannah, his wife. Here is the entry which may lead you to where your Shoat people were at one time, perhaps.

" 29 April, 1822, Tennessee, Maury County: Thomas Shelby of Maury County in consideration of natural love & affection I have for my sons Eli and Levi, I have given them land in this county on waters of Duck River ... NW corner of Jonathan Broom to NW corner of Thomas Shoat/Shute. Signed Thomas Shelby; Witnesses: John Priest & George Shelby (a brother); registered 17 Feb 1823, source: Maury Co. Deed Bk ki, p. 78."

Good Luck

Seeking Michael/John/Daughter Choate/Shoat b. in TN?>>1860 in Butler Co, MO>> 1870-1880 in Jackson Co, IL>> d. ?? date in ??

larrywernle — 2012-01-14 16:30:16Z

Seeking Michael/John/Daughter Choate/Shoat b. in TN?>>1860 in Butler Co, MO>> 1870-1880 in Jackson Co, IL>> d. ?? date in ?? place.

Here’s what I know with reasonable certainty:

In the 1880 Fed Census for Degognia Twp, Jackson Co, Illinois:
SHOAT, John N W M 24 Head Married Farmer KY KY KY
“ Emily W F 21 Wife Married Housekeeper IL OH OH
“ Claud E. W M 3/12 Son At Home IL KY IL
Browfield, Ben W M 15 Ad. Son At Home IL IL IL

The wife is Emily MNU Johnston, daughter of George Washington Johnston and Rebecca Rouse (Chester, Randolph, Illinois: Choate, John L / Johnson, Emily / 11/24/1879 D /33 199 / Randolph). I have not yet researched this Ben Browfield. John allegedly d. 13Jan1893, and is buried in Buchanan Cemetery, Degognia Twp, Jackson Co, IL. I have Emily and their 6 known children in the 1900-1930 censuses. Emily allegedly d. 14Mar1939 (not sourced yet), buried Buchanan.

In the 1870 Fed Census for Degognia Twp, Jackson Co, Illinois:
Demster, Reason 63 M W Carpenter PA
“ Margaret 40 F W Keeping Home Tenn
“ Marion 10 M W MO
“ Miles? 7 M W MO
SHOAT, Mary? 13 F W MO
“ John 18 M W Laborer Tenn

I am fairly confident this is the same 1880 John Shoat/Choate, because family legend states:
"Mike Choate, the father of John Liddel Choate, came to Tennessee from Either Northern England or Ireland (date on that unknown). About 1863 or 1864 Mike Choate brought John Liddel and a daughter, whose name we don't know, to Illinois to be left with a Mr. Dempster to be cared for. There was some relation between the Dempsters and the Choates. Mike Choate paid Mr. Dempster in gold to care for the two children. He and an older son returned back to TN . . . It was said they owned a plantation there." It has been hypothesized that 1870 Margaret Demster was born Choate, or at least that the “relation” is thru the maternal side, but any relation is possible at this point.

I conclude from this that Mary Shoat, age 13, is the previously unidentified “daughter”. I have additional evidence below. Others have concluded from this 1870 census alone, because Mary age 13 is shown ABOVE John, that Mary Shoat was born Demster and is John’s WIFE in the 1870 census. I cannot come to this “wife” conclusion. I have seen too many ages out of order in too many censuses.

Now comes the really interesting part. In the 1860 Fed Census for District 1, Butler Co, MO:
Isaac Shelby 30 M W Farmer Tennessee
Margret Shelby 35 F W Housekeeper Tennessee
John SHOAT 8 M W Tennessee
Margret A SHOAT 4 F W Tennessee
William Shelby 3 M W Tennessee
Jane F Shelby 1 F W Missouri
And John Shoat is shown with an X denoting he is a different family in the same dwelling.

AND, most interesting of ALL, in the immediately prior dwelling (presumably right next door) is a Michael SHOAT in the household of a George Smizer.
Michael SHOAT 30 M W Loafer? Tennessee
Also in this same large household, are you ready??
Resen Demster 47 M W Carpenter Pennsylvania
Does this guy look familiar? I mean C’MON! Other than the ages being a little off, this is the same man from the 1870 Census.

Sooooo, I HAVE to conclude from all this that this Michael, John, and daughter (Mary or Margret) SHOAT are the three from the family legend, and are indeed the family I seek. If anyone reading this disagrees with my conclusions, PLEASE email me to present your case, at ldwernle@aol.com. Of course, the 1860 census violates the legend, at least the part about leaving TN in 1863/1864. Instead, that could be when they left MO, for IL.

As a result, my questions are numerous:

What happened to Michael Shoat? Did he indeed return to Tennessee with his older son, as the family legend says? When? Where? Or did he stay in Missouri? Or move on to Illinois? Does anyone have this Michael SHOAT before or after 1860? If so, who are his parents? Who is the legendary older son? What about possible other children? Wife? PARENTS? When did the “four” CHOATEs/SHOATs leave TN for MO?

And what about Mary(1870)/Margret A (1860)?? Is she indeed the legendary daughter? Where did she go? Did she pass away? Or get married? If married, WHERE? MO? IL? Back to TN? Does anyone have her before 1860 or after 1870? Is Mary and Margret A even the same girl?

I also have unsourced information that Michael SHOAT’s wife was one Mary SHELBY. That’s right, SHELBY. The same name the two kids were living with in 1860.

And what is John’s middle name? Does anyone have a source for N? or L? or Liddel? Does anyone have sources for his death on 13Jan1893? His grave marker is in Jackson Co, IL.

And the most important question of all. Can anyone tell me where this family came from in Tennessee? CHOATEs and SHELBYs see to be all over the durn place in TN!

Any questions/comments/corrections or help would be most welcome.

Larry Wernle
ldwernle@aol.com

Re: Joshua Shelby and Military Service

franciskeenan — 2011-12-01 21:38:28Z

Children of JOSHUA SHELBY and SUSANNAH were:

JEMIMA SHELBY, b. April 30, 1781, Now, Greene County, Pennsylvania; d. 21, 1867, Wayne County, Indiana.

ISAAC SHELBY, b. Abt. 1782, probably German Township, Fayette County, Pennsylvania; d. Bef. May 29, 1837, Warren County, Indiana.

JOSEPH SHELBY, b. April 7, 1785, Mason County, Kentucky (It was Virginia until 1792); d. April 8, 1849,Greenfield, Hancock County, Indiana.

SARAH OR “SALLY” C. SHELBY, b. Abt. 1788, Pennsylvania; d. December 1843, Algonquin, McHenry County,
Illinois.

DAVID SHELBY, b. 1792, Pennsylvania; d. Bet. 1860 - 1870, Probably Breckinridge County, Kentucky, his last known residence.

MARCIA OR “MASSEY” SHELBY, b. Abt. 1795, Mason County, Kentucky; d. Abt. 1864, Bedford, Lawrence County,Indiana.

JOHN SHELBY, b. Abt. 1796, Mason County, Kentucky; d. December 26, 1843, Jefferson Township, Montgomery
County, Ohio.

EVAN SHELBY, b. Abt. 1798, Mason County, Kentucky; d. Aft. 1830.

LYDIA SHELBY, b. Abt. 1801, Mason County, Kentucky; d. 1891, Richmond, Wayne County, Indiana; m. WILLIAM H. BENNETT, August 19, 1819, Wayne County, Indiana.

SUSAN SHELBY, b. November 27, 1803, Mason County, Kentucky; d. February 14, 1878; m. JAMES WOOD,February 2, 1820, Wayne County, Indiana. He was a physician. Information concerning him was difficult to obtain.

The issue of Joshua Shelby and his wife, Susannah, were proven by probate records in Union County, Indiana, where Joshua died in 1830. These records provided a dower for Susannah Shelby, his surviving wife, and assigned the remainder of his estate to his heirs-at-law.

Joshua Shelby and Military Service

franciskeenan — 2011-11-30 11:28:48Z

Joshua Shelby served with Capt. David McClure in the Virginia Militia during Dunmore's War of 1774. He was
paid on the Pittsburgh Payrolls in 1775. This information was found at the Library of Virginia. Joshua did not live in Virginia; as it was, Virginia had laid claim along with Pennsylvania and Maryland, to lands in what now is western Pennsylvania where Joshua lived in Fayette County.

Joshua was a member of Captain Thomas Gaddis's Company in 1783. Capt. Gaddis's militia was from Bedford
County, Pennsylvania. In a "List of Revolutionary Soldiers of Virginia" p. 398, it was stated that Joshua Shelby
was finally paid in 1791 for services at Pittsburgh or Ft. Pitt, Pennsylvania.

Joshua Shelby was listed as an inhabitant of Post (Fort] Vincennes, in Indiana Territory on the Wabash River
frontier in 1783. [See: Charles M. Franklin (Compiler). INDIANA TERRITORIAL PIONEER RECORDS 1801-
1815. Heritage House, 1983, p. 51.] Included in the reference is a section: "A List of American Inhabitants of
Post Vincennes, 1783 (Men and Boys.]The Wabash River campaign was a part of the Gen. Clark expedition.

Joshua Shelby [1759-1830], as previousl stated,served in the Revolutionary War in the Company of Capt. Thomas Gaddis' Virginia Militia. Joshua's card number at the National Archives and Records Administration in Washington, D.C., is 37405730. No personal papers were included in Joshua's file. Neither was there any application for pension or record of any land grant.

Joshua's name appeared on a list of Officers and Privates under the Command of Capt. Thomas Gaddis at Fort Liberty commencing Sep 9th and ending 1st January 1777. The list was not dated. But, the payroll indicated that Joshua Shelby's service commenced Sep 9, 1776,and ended Nov. 8, 1776, and that Joshua served for 61 days. The source of this information was M 881 "Compiled Service Records of Soldiers Who Served in the American Army During the Revolutionary War." Roll No. 1089, National Archives and Records Administration [NARA], Washington, D.C.

Fort Liberty was in the northern neck of what is now the State of West Virginia. It was but a couple of miles from the Ohio River, a major transportation artery during this era. The blockhouse fort was near to what is now the Town of Liberty, Ohio County, West Virginia. The fort became known as Black's Cabin and served as a territorial court for a time. During my visit to this area, I was unable to find the ruins of this likely small blockhouse fort. Fort Liberty was not far from where Joshua Shelby lived during this period of time and that was near to the Monongahela River in western Fayette County, Pennsylvania, at the mouth of Brown's Run.

Descendants of Joshual Shelby can be proud of their ancestor's military service. His male descendants are eligible for membership in the society known as the Sons of the American Revolution (SAR); the female descendants of Joshua Shelby are elibible for membership in the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution (NSDAR).

Re: Evan Andrew SHELBY

franciskeenan — 2011-11-30 09:39:17Z

For those wishing to perform on site research in an effort to discover vital statistical information concerning Joshua Shelby's wife, Susanna(h), I shall list here the sites which I visited without success. I reviewed the available documents and literature at courthouses, historical and genealogical societies, and libraries. I went to Westmoreland, Fayette, and Washington Counties in Pennsylvania. I also went to Mason County, Kentucky. Finally, I traveled to Wayne and Union Counties in Indiana. My last effort was to review the names of all the neighbors of Evan Shelby, Joshua's father, at the time the family lived in the Little Cove area of Pennsylvania. The hypothesis was that perhaps a young Joshua had met his wife among those who lived nearby to his home there in Little Cove. This search also failed. I have also scanned as many resources as have been made available at Ancestry.com and
Genealogy.com as well as at Family Search, the LDS Library. Perhaps this information will assist anyone who wishes to pursue the question of Susanna(h)'s family history in the future.

Re: Evan Andrew SHELBY

franciskeenan — 2011-11-30 00:30:13Z

To correct the grammar, Susannah did not die in an unmarked grave. The sentence should have read ... and was buried in an unmarked grave.

Re: Evan Andrew SHELBY

franciskeenan — 2011-11-29 21:22:29Z

Evan Andrew>Theophilus>David>Joshua. My extensive research concerning Susanna(h), wife of Joshua Shelby, had not revealed her maiden surname, place and/or date of birth and death,or burial site. She died after Sept. 30, 1830, probably in Bethlehem, Union County, Indiana, in an unmarked grave. My visits to Union County on several occasions did not produce the home site for Joshua Shelby or his grave. I have assumed that he was likely buried on his acreage in the northwest corner of Union County near to the Wayne County line. Whatever marker may have been upon his grave there, if any, has been removed by the ravages of time.

Judy Trolinger has been burdened by other matters to the detriment of her outstanding efforts and contributions to Shelby surname history for which we are all thankful.

Re: Evan Andrew SHELBY

tr_shelby — 2011-11-29 20:05:22Z

Francis,

Good to hear from you, and thanks for your detailed synopsis of Evan Andrew.

I have Joshua SHELBY as his great-grandfather, and Susanna ?? as his great-grandmother.

Is this correct?

Do you have any more information on Susanna?

Finally, do you ever hear from Judy Trolinger; how is she?

Tom Shelby

Evan Andrew SHELBY

franciskeenan — 2011-11-29 19:25:51Z

Evan A. SHELBY was a son of Theophilus Hall Shelby and Elizabeth Monroe. He was born in November, 1857, in Breckinridge County, Kentucky; he died before November 7, 1925, in Vermilion County, Illinois. He married Indiana Gilkison on August 25, 1878, in Parke County, Indiana. The marriage license was signed by David Strouse, County Clerk, and also by H. A. Coffman who performed the marriage ceremony. She was a daughter of John Gilkison and Sarah Stever. She was born about 1861 in Indiana; she died before 1900 in Vermillion County, Indiana.

Evan A. Shelby married a second time to Eunice Thompson on March 28, 1886, in Vermillion County, Indiana. Eunice was born in January of 1864 and died before 1900. Thompson was her maiden surname according to a death certificate for her son, Everett H. Shelby.

The children of Evan Andrew Shelby and Indiana Gilkison were: Eli Roscoe Shelby, born May 1, 1881, Vermillion County, Indiana; died March 23, 1923, Clinton, Vermillion County, Indiana. And Mary Shelby, born October 1884, Vermillion County, Indiana. Mary was likely buried in an unmarked grave in the Johnson Cemetery, Vermillion County, Indiana.

Children of Evan Andrew Shelby and Eunice Thompson were:
Joseph Shelby, born about 1886. No further information was available concerning Joseph and he likely did not survive childhood. He was buried in Johnson Cemetery, Eugene Township, Vermillion County, Indiana. Everett Heidbreder Shelby, born April 15, 1887, Portertown, Vermillion County, Indiana; died May 23, 1963, Veterans' Administration Hospital, Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois. And Paul Shelby, born April 1895, in Indiana; he died March 6, 18198 in Indiana.

In the 1880 census for Vermillion County, IN, Evan was listed as ag 19 years and born in Indiana, working as a laborer. It was noted in this census that he had a mashed leg at the age of 19 years. At that time, he lived in a rented residence. In the 1920 census, he was living with his son, Everett, in Eugene, Vermillion County, IN, and he was 66 years of age.

Evan Shelby's will, dated March 9, 1925, bequeathed his estate to his son, Everett H. Shelby. The will was probated in the Circuit Court and filed November 7, 1925, in Vermillion County, Indiana. This information suggested that his daughter, Mary, born in 1884, likely died at birth or shortly thereafter, as probably also did her mother, Indiana (Gilkison) Shelby. No record of Indiana's death has been found. Also, Evan Shelby remarried only 18 months after the birth of his daughter, Mary, suggesting that his wife, Indian, likely died during child birth.

[Source of data: Francis W. Keenan. JOSHUA SHELBY: Ancestors and Descendants. Georgetown, Kentucky: The Kentucky River Press, 2007, pp. 113-115.]

Re: Evan Dhu Shelby

artdes — 2011-09-06 12:38:24Z

Hi Judy
I've been doing some more Selby/Shelby research at the National Library in Wales and wondered if Evan and family were Welsh speakers and did they continue to speak the language when they emmigrated.
Look forward to hearing from you
Yvonne

Re: Shelby-Darby

android — 2011-08-21 23:10:17Z

Be assured that the Shelby/Selby conundrum has needed resolution many times in the past by other serious Shelby family historians. Tangles with this issue in my research alerted me to the possibility. My first post could have been more forthcoming with the data thereby alerting readers that the Phillip Selby in question was not Phillip
Selby of Tregaron, Cardiganshire,Wales.

Kindest regards,

Android

Re: Shelby-Darby

vshelby1955 — 2011-08-21 22:55:29Z

Sorry. My bad. I did not realize or think about the possibly of it being Selby. Sorry.

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

vshelby1955 — 2011-08-19 21:22:11Z

Thanks Larry. I did get the article. Please let me know if you find out any more on Samuel. We think he may be the brother to our John since they seem to show up at the same place and time.

Virginia Shelby

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

larryshelby21 — 2011-08-19 18:30:47Z

I sent you a copy of the article by e-mail today. If you don't receive it let me know. I still don't know who Samuel's parents were. I have recently got two books on Shelbys and I have just started trying to find anything to connect.
Larry

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

larryshelby21 — 2011-08-19 18:22:04Z

I sent the article by e-mail. If you haven't received it let me know. Do you think John is the brother of Samuel? I haven't found anything pertaining to Samuel except his family down.

Re: Shelby-Darby

android — 2011-08-19 00:33:49Z

Hello June: I have learned from reading your posts that when during your research you find unfamiliar Shelbys, you post the information to learn about them and also to attempt to assist others. Thank you for your posts.

With respect to the Benjamin Shelby in your post to which I am responding, I searched at Ancestry.com for Martha Darby. Then,I looked at family trees. While I am not a fan of such trees unless they are fully documented, they do at times offer some insights for further research. And too, some of them are documented enough to have some credibility as was the one below.

I have learned from my years of Shelby research that there are many instances of Selbys having been reported as Shelbys. I could name some of them but wish to get on to this matter.

In this instance, there was one Public Member Tree at
Ancestry.com named Tom's Roots owned by "Tallred." It had some documentation in the form of census data. Here are some of the particulars from that tree.

Benjamin Simmons SELBY, b 21 Apr. 1809, Union, SC; d Jun 1880 Yalobusha, MS. He married Martha Darby 11 Sep 1830, Lauderdale, AL. There was a long list of SELBY issue from this marriage.

This Benjamin SELBY was a son of Phillip SELBY, 1774-1833, and Mary SIMMONS, 1774-1870.

For some corroboration, see the 1850 Federal Census for Dist. 1, Lauderdale, AL; and, the 1860 Federal Census for Oktibbeha, MS. Benjamin was clearly listed as a SELBY.

Perhaps this shall answer your initial question. I could have provided this data in my original response to your query but saw no point. I also wish to point out that a search for a Martha Darby married to a Phillip SHELBY was futile.

Keep up the good work, June.

Re: Shelby-Darby

android — 2011-08-18 22:34:40Z

There was more than one Phillip Selby. The one to whom I referred and who was mentioned in the trees I read married a woman named Mary Simmons. Sorry to spoil your joke. I was only trying to point out that very often there have been Selbys who were thought to have been Shelbys and this apparently was another of those instances. You can read the trees and their documentation and decide for yourself whether this Benjamin was a Selby or a Shelby.

I certainly never meant to imply in any fashion that this Benjamin was a son of Philip Selby of Wales, the patriarch of the Shelbys in the USA.

Re: Shelby-Darby

vshelby1955 — 2011-08-18 20:52:52Z

This Benjamin was born about 1810 and was married in Lauderdale County, AL in 1833.

Source Lauderdale County AL Marriages. Old Marriage Books 1-6 1820-1857 as transcribed by the WPA in the 1830's Book 3 Page 64 married by Samuel Young.

Don't think he lived 200 years but us Shelby's are hardy people. :-)

Thanks.

Virginia

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

vshelby1955 — 2011-08-18 13:26:55Z

Thanks Larry.\

My e-mail address is: vshelbycpa@yahoo.com.

Virginia

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

larryshelby21 — 2011-08-18 12:07:49Z

Send me your e-mail address and I will send it...........Larry

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

tr_shelby — 2011-08-18 04:14:53Z

Try looking at the 1860 Federal Census for Saml Sheeby

Looks like this may be your Samuel

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

tr_shelby — 2011-08-18 04:01:50Z

Hi Larry,
You and I had an email exchange in 2006 over this; sounds like you found a few answers.

Do you know who Samuel's parents were?

I too would like a copy of the newspaper clipping.

If you can, please send to tr_shelby "at" cox.net

Tom Shelby

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

vshelby1955 — 2011-08-17 20:42:04Z

Is is possible to get a copy of that newspaper article showing the marriage of Samuel and Ms. Meadows???

Re: John Shelby b 1796 SC

larryshelby21 — 2011-08-17 16:34:59Z

Samuel Shelby was my ggg grandfather. I recently came by a newspaper article from Mt.Croghan, Chesterfield, SC. showing that after the death of Joel Meadows his widow Livinia (Vinny) Meadows married Samuel Shelby. In 1822 they sold the land to James Fields. I know of two sons by them, Calvin Shelby and Alfred Shelby both born in Livingston, Sumter, Alabama. They later moved to Tippah County MS which was divided in 1870 and part became Benton County. I am from Alfred's side andthey continued to live in Benton County until their deaths. It goes on from there. If I can be of any help let me know.......Larry Shelby

John Shelby b 1796 SC

pinneya — 2011-08-16 23:15:44Z

Looking for info on John Shelby b. around 1796 in Chesterfield, SC, and Samuel Shelby b. around 1790 in SC, both entered War of 1812 in 1814 from SC, discharged in 1815 SC. John married Martha Jones in SC 1816. Samuel married Lavina Meadows. Believe John and Samuel may be brothers, as joined war on same day, served in same company, and discharged same day. Believe both show up together in Lauderdale, AL at inventory estate sales in the years 1824 – 1826, and then again in 1831. They appear to be in the Maury, TN 1830 census. Believe they may be brothers to Rees who is in Lauderdale, AL from 1818 – 1835, who is probably son of Rees Jr from Chesterfield, SC. Don’t have any documentation, but am searching. If anyone has any info on either of these three possible brothers, or info to show they belong to some others please reply.helb

Re: Shelby-Darby

android — 2011-08-14 20:25:58Z

For what it may be worth, most of the public family trees at Ancestry have Benjamin as a SELBY, son of a Phillip Selby. This is not my research and family trees should always be approached with suspicion. You may wish to contact the contributors to learn more about Martha Darby and Phillip Selby.

Re: Shelby-Darby

vshelby1955 — 2011-08-14 19:33:57Z

Did you ever find you Shelby/Darby Connection? I know the post is several year old but just wondering if you discovered who this Benjamin is. I would be very interested in finding out if you have. Thanks.

Wright Co Missouri

tr_shelby — 2011-06-27 17:51:25Z

Hi,
I visited several cemeteries in Wright Co, on Sat. 6/25 and discovered that I was a day behind another SHELBY researcher!

If you visited Dutch Chapel, Manes, and/or other cemeteries in June 2011 please reply.

I'd love to compare notes, and find out who I'm related to.

Tom Shelby

Re: Evan Dhu Shelby

tr_shelby — 2011-05-02 23:21:22Z

Hi,

Does the birth record actually show Catherine's maiden name?
I'd love a copy of it, with or without maiden name.

if you can, please send to:

tr_shelby "at" cox.net

thanks

PS

Judy Trolinger posted this message in July, 2000

"Adam's (ALEXANDER) wife, Mary Shelby, was Baptised at the age of 3 weeks, on 6 Sept 1735, Christ Church, Philadelphia, PA.

Mary is buried next to her husband. Tombstone dates for her:
b 14 Aug 1735 - d 26 Nov 1813

They are buried in the Rock Springs Cemetery, Clear Springs Twp, Mecklenburg Co, NC

Mary did not marry a second time to Vincent Hobbs..
Judy"

Mary SHELBY ALEXANDER can be found on Find a Grave at Memorial# 33028216

Re: Isaac Shelby-Tn and Ky descendants

tr_shelby — 2011-05-02 23:07:40Z

William Taggart SHELBY was a 3rd cousin, twice removed.

Ancestry won't let me upload their kinship report, so if you would like to see the lineage, email me at:

tr_shelby "at" cox.net

I would love any gedcom, or photos/docs that you have.

We are VERY distant "cousins"

Tom

Re: Isaac Shelby-Tn and Ky descendants

sleach08 — 2011-04-19 04:08:28Z

Dear Mr. Draper,

I am a descendent of Isaac Shelby and we are trying to piece together the line of descendants from him, including his connection to General Joseph Shelby who fought in the Civil War. My mother Lousia Caroline Shelby was the daughter of William Taggert Shelby.

Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated.

regards,

Steve

Re: Gatcey Shelby

tr_shelby — 2011-04-11 06:39:31Z

My records have a Gattsy Shelby b. abt 1806 in NC/IL??

dau. of Jacob SHELBY and Serepta Polk ALEXANDER

Gattsy was one of 10 children, she was the 6th

The last 4 were born in Pope Co. Ill

Jacob Shelby was the son of Rees SHELBY and Mary BLAIR

Tom

Re: Gatsey Shelby

fairytalefashions — 2011-03-27 06:47:58Z

Laura Ann and John Thomas are my Great-Aunt and Uncle.
Which of the 7 daughters is your Mother?
Any info you have and would like to share on the children would be appreciated.
Contact me at fairy-talefashions@hotmail.com

Re: William Shelby b: 1760 NC d: 1817 KY

tr_shelby — 2011-02-18 03:42:03Z

My records show a John CLINTON b. 10/28/1791 d. 10/05/1840 Crittenden Co. KY.

Livingston Co. KY Marriage records show that he married Sarah SHELBY on 1/17/1815

Sarah and John had the following kids:

Sarah "Sally" Shelby 1797 – 1855,
William Barnett Clinton 1815 – 1883,
Mary Emmaline Clinton 1818 – 1897,
James Clinton 1821 – 1860,
Aaron Shelby Clinton 1822 – 1889,
John E Clinton 1824 – 1908,
Finis Ewing Clinton 1832 – 1910,
Serena Clinton 1834 – ,
Eliza Ann Clinton 1837 – 1868,
Andrew Russell Clinton 1840 – 1909,

Sarah was the 1st daughter of 3 and had 7 brothers born to William SHELBY and Sarah Sally NEEL.

Yes, William was one of eleven kids born to Moses SHELBY b. 5/05/1728, Tregaron, WALES, and Isabel ALEXANDER
Find A Grave Memorial# 43362288

This link to Judy TROLINGERs SHELBY website is by far the best documented and most complete.

http://www.trolinger.com/judy/Judith4.htm

Hope this helps
Tom SHELBY

William Shelby b: 1760 NC d: 1817 KY

Alexanj10 — 2011-02-06 02:30:09Z

I am searching for my Shelby family connections. I have good data up to John Clinton (d: 1839, Livingston, KY) and his wife Sarah “Sally” Shelby (d: 1855, Crittenden, KY). They are buried in Crittenden, KY in Piney Fork Cemetery.

My Clinton family records have Sarah as the daughter of William Shelby and Sarah blank.

Could this be the William Shelby that is the son of Moses Shelby (B: 1728 Wales, D: 1776 Mecklenburg, NC)?

William Shelby.
B: 1760 in Clear Creek, Mecklenburg, North Carolina, USA
D: Aug 1817? in Livingston, Kentucky, USA
I cannot find a record on his death date and data found varies widely.

I was also trying to track his wife Sarah. Her family name varies widely in family trees. I started searching through William’s records and found the most likely candidate:

Sarah Sally Neel
B: 1763? in Carrabus, North Carolina, USA
D: 23 Aug 1852 in Livingston, Kentucky, USA
Birth date varies widely.

Thanks for any information you can provide.
Janet

SHELBY James B - Vietnam Wall section 24W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-01-12 23:16:55Z

SHELBY James B - Vietnam Wall section 24W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 219,082 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is not my family.

Re: Evan Dhu Shelby

trainingjds — 2011-01-02 13:37:15Z

Evan was married to Catherine Morgan and had at least two children Mary and Moses. I have a picture of the Christ Church in PA's birth record of Mary being born to Evan and Catherine Selby (which was the original spelling in Wales before coming to US.

Re: Mary Pindell Shelby Stallcup

franciskeenan — 2010-11-21 11:19:47Z

Your message is ambiguous with respect to what "family" you seek. Is it the Shelby ancestral lineage or the Stallcup ancestral lineage or the history of the issue from the marriage of Shelby to Stallcup to the present? You should be more specific and also provide information which you already possess such as dates and places, for instance, and also to avoid duplication of effort. Then, there are likely many who will be able to assist you.

The Shelby lineage is known and Judith Trolinger can be thanked for doing the research and documenting her findings and then posting it at her website as follows: Mary Pendell Shelby was the daughter of Richard P. Shelby and his 2nd wife, Rebecca Williams Mitchell. Richard P. Shelby was the son of James Shelby who married Mary Pindell. James Shelby was a son of the famous Isaac Shelby.

I do not know about the Stallcup lineages.

Mary Pindell Shelby Stallcup

LynneStallcop — 2010-11-20 05:04:27Z

I am looking for information regarding the family of Mary Pindell Shelby and John C Stallcup. I know that their children were Amanda, Margery, John C and Evan Shelby. I know that Evan had a son Evan and Margery (Smith) had 2 children, Stallcup Nichols and Shelby. Any information about this line would be much appreciated.

Lynne Stallcop

Re: Jessie E. Shelby Witt

BrendaEvatt1514 — 2010-11-06 03:45:57Z

Thank you for your reply. I will try to find a copy of that book. My grandmother was Jessie Dawdy Shelby's cousin. Brenda

Re: Jessie E. Shelby Witt

franciskeenan — 2010-11-05 11:14:35Z

Jessie Shelby was a dau. of Wm. Henry Shelby,born 11 Oct. 1864 in Hardin Co., TN., and married in 1940, Stephenville, Erath Co., TX. William lived in Arkansas and married Sarah Dowdy on 7 Apr 1878. They had five children one of which was Jessie who married a Mr. Witt. The ancestors of this William Shelby are known. This is a 7th and 8th (Jessie) generation of Shelbys in the USA.

I am not related to this lineage and know nothing about Jessie's last 20 years. The data was found in a book by the wonderful lady and outstanding Shelby family historian, Johnnie Mullinax Johnson, aka "Pea Picker."
[JMJ. REES AND MARY SHELBY: Ancestors & Descendants. Published by the author in 1994, p. 198.

Jessie E. Shelby Witt

BrendaEvatt1514 — 2010-11-05 05:28:56Z

Looking for information on Jessie E. Shelby Witt, esp. her last 20 years. Used to visit her often when she lived at Lake Worth. When she disappeared quite suddenly we never knew what happened to her. She was my grandmother's cousin. Minnie Mae Dawdy Evatt. She was one of my favorite people and would love to know what happened to her. We visited her mom's grave just last week and her sister, Bessie in Erath County. Any help would be appreciated. My dad is 88 years old and would love to know about "Aunt Jessie". Thanks, Brenda Evatt

Re: John Shelby

franciskeenan — 2010-10-21 10:40:22Z

This John Shelby was the son of Esquire (Squire) Shelby and Rebecca Ann Terrell. John Shelby was born in Sept. of 1868 in Vermillion County, Indiana. He married Cora Fortner. She was born Dec. 1867 in Rossville, Vermilion County, Illinois; she died in 1916. John and Cora were married June 8, 1892, in Danville, Vermilion County, Illinois.

Squire Shelby was a son of David Shelby, born 1792 in Pennsylvania, and Deborah (Hall/Hutchison) Shelby. Squire was born Dec. 20, 1840, in Breckinridge County, Kentucky. He died Aug. 10, 1920, in Catlin Township, Vermilion County, Illinois. He had been a resident of the "Old Folks Home." Burial was in the Town Cemetery, Rossville, Vermilion County, Illinois. He had married Rebecca Terrell Feb. 16, 1864, in Parke County, Indiana. She was born Mar. 27, 1846, in Indiana. She died Mar. 26, 1905, and was also buried in the Town Cemetery, Rossville, Vermilion County, Indiana.

No issue for John and Cora were discovered.

Re: John Shelby

katherinemadison11 — 2010-10-19 21:45:03Z

i HAVE A JOHN SHELBY IN MY FAMILY TREE.hE WAS BORN 1864.WASTHE BROTHER OF MY GREAT-GRANDMOTHER PRISCILLIA ALICE.WHO BORN IN TENNESSEEIN 1862. THEY WERE CHILDREN OF MATLDA SKIPPER ANDALTON/ALSON SHELBY

Re: Rachel Shelby

gregsmith6 — 2010-08-25 12:59:21Z

Hi. My name is Greg Smith.

I am a descendant of Thomas Pindall. I have inherited documents that trace my heritage, and am in search of "long lost relatives".

Most of the documents that I've inherited were produced for application for membership into the Daughters of the American Revolution by my g-g-grandmother, Adelaide (Addie) Pindall Milliken.

My sister-in-law and I are in the beginning stages of applying for membership for our daughters in DAR.

I just ordered "Pindell, a Family Through Time" on Amazon.

Feel free to email me: gregsmith6@yahoo.com

All the best,
Greg

Evan Dhu Shelby

tr_shelby — 2010-07-02 01:39:08Z

Hello to all of our SHELBY researchers.

Two of our foremost SHELBY researchers since Cass Knight SHELBY himself- CKS, namely Judith Ann Trolinger- JAT and Johnnie Mulinax Johnson - JMJ, would periodically appeal to serious SHELBY devotees to stop using unsubstanciated or dis-proven data.

I've noticed that several trees on Ancestory are using Evan "the black" (Dhu) SHELBY. Type in "dhu" on SHELBY boards in Ancestry or Genforum for JAT's and MJM's comments on the fictitiousness of using this colorful but unproven name.

I'm posting this to try and get a string going on "other" SHELBY data "myths" ( WAS there a Catherine DAVIS MORGAN ?, etc)

Post you biggest SHELBY pet peeve, with as much "proof" as possible.

LET'S LIVEN UP THIS BOARD : )

Maybe the best responders would be allowed to use their three initals like our mentors CKS, JMJ, JAT.