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Re: Mary SHORNEY, b. c1801, Stogursey

DMSpurling — 2011-01-31 17:51:18Z

Jenny
She is the daughter of George Shorney and Ann(e) Shepherd
Daphne

Re: SHORNEY of the QUANTOCK area, SOMERSET

DMSpurling — 2011-01-31 17:42:32Z

Hello Jenny
I also go back to George Shorney and Sarah Shepherd via their son Henry. I am certain that George's parents are James and Mary Dibble from a family history written down in the 1930s and from parish register transcriptions. Further back to John and Ann Cridland is a possible.
Contact me if you are still watching this thread!
Daphne

Re: Shorneys in Bristol

mairknight — 2010-01-13 22:59:45Z

Hi I am Thomas George shorney's sister and my daughter is tracing the shorney family tree and has got back to the early 1800s you must be his grandson so I am your great aunt now living in Cornwall hoping this helps,my father was also Thomas George Shorney
From Mair Knight [nee Shorney]

Re: bedminster shorneys

monikacleary — 2010-01-08 22:19:57Z

hi andrea, i am going from 1916 W shorney, father W shorney b 1880, father Henry charles b 1843 ( all b bedminster ) Henry m Sarah ann Hill, b 1844 taunton,( tricky to find her as she is not on the printed marriage, but is on the handwritten index) m 1865 bedminster, Henry being a shipwright with siblings Sarah, Samuel, Mary, Alfred b 1837-1846. parents of Henry ,Eliza Knight and W Shorney, b 1813 lydeard, parents being Jane Phillips and W Shorney. I am in Ireland after living uk and Germany. My email monikacleary@ yahoo.ie. By the way I think the famine may have been in the 1800s.
Take care. Monika

Re: bedminster shorneys

andeabrand96 — 2010-01-05 14:35:10Z

Hi Monika, thankyou for getting back to me, i am following the male side of my mother, starting at the bottom of the tree my mum mair shorney was born in wales came to bedminster @ 2yds old her dad was thomas george shorney b 1894 in ferndale married annie may morgan 1919, his father thomas henry born 1873 bedminster( moved to ferndale ) married 1893 to alice emily tindall in ferndale 1893 his father thomas henry born 1843 in bedminster worked as a shipwright married sarah(surname unknown) born in taunton 1844(book binder) married 1863 in williton his father william born 1813 lydeard st lawerance moved to bedminsterand was a butcher he died 1868, married eliza knight??? born 1811 in congresbury (laundress) she was alive in the 1881 census dont know when she died. You then have given us the names of there parents william and jane, we found a william shorney baptised 1776 in lydeard st lawerance.if you are looking for a branch of this tree we do have some information on siblings my direct e-mail is andreabrand@ymail.com tel 01726 890159 andrea

Re: bedminster shorneys

monikacleary — 2010-01-04 21:41:24Z

hi andrea, thanks for that. I sort of came to that same conclusion unofficially. What info are you looking for? I am at the basic stages as such and havent proven anything as such. Which member are you following? From a later census Jane phillips was born in Brompton Ralph about 1782, ( 1861 I think she is living with Harriet her daughter who married a Chorley) Anyway let me know what you are after and I will see what I can help with. I think the Irish bit may be a myth, but I am open to any ideas.
Monika

Re: bedminster shorneys

andeabrand96 — 2010-01-03 22:57:09Z

hi i have been doing our family tree shorney bedminster. we
belive that william shorney was born in lydeard st lawrence somerset 1813 (not cornwall) his parents william shorney(baptised 1776) and jane philips(age unknown) i think there parents are john shorney and ann ? they may have origanated from ireland irish fammie 1740-1741??? any information we could share with each other many thanks andrea

bedminster shorneys

monikacleary — 2009-07-31 22:13:59Z

my william shorney through the census records was born in 2 different counties, born 1813 in fitzhead and 1813 in lada st lawrence cornwall, i am aware that lydeard is close to fitzhead but cornwall is not somerset. Can any one advise? Hisparents were william shorney and jane phillips who married in 1800. By 1841 william is in bedminster with wife eliza knight.( by the way are all you shorney researchers family , as when I began my search i thought my surname was rare, now it looks very common and i am glad )

Re: SHORNEY of the QUANTOCK area, SOMERSET

te131 — 2009-05-07 17:02:27Z

I know that your inquiry is two years old now but better late than never.
Did you ever have a reply re the subject above.
At the time in question there were two James Shorney's of a similar age living in the Nether Stowey, Dodington, Overstowey, Charlynch, Spaxton area. Yes a James Shorney from Holford married a Mary Dibble from Doddington in 1760 and another James Shorney from Nether Stowey married Joan Rich from Spaxton in Charlynch in 1754.
The problem is that we know that one of the James's parents were John Shorney born Stogursey in 1688 who was married in 1717 to Ann Cridland born in 1686 in Nether Stowey.
The big questions are; who did the son of John & Ann Shorney marry and who were the parents of the other James and where did they come from ?
Get in touch with me on ted.shorney@talktalk.net

SHORNEY of the QUANTOCK area, SOMERSET

jlclake — 2007-10-06 09:12:32Z

Six or seven years ago, there was a spate of correspondence on this board about the Shorneys of Stogursey, Charlynch, Nether Stowey, etc. Then it dried up because, I think, the participants took their discussion offline. I would really like to revive it, because I need some help.
I’ve traced a branch of my family back to John Shorney and Ann Cridland who apparently married in 1717.
While much of my data comes from IGI and from other online and cd parish record transcriptions, a few details (incl. the date of the above marriage) come only from OneWorldTree (OWT), which is often unreliable.
I believe that my descent is from John and Ann’s son James (bap. 15 Mar 1730, Nether Stowey), who married Mary Dibble at Holford in 1760, and then from their son George who married Ann Shepherd in 1792
I’m sure of my facts back to George and Ann, but I have only the OWT to say that a)George was the son of James and Mary, b) that James Shorney did indeed marry Mary Dibble, and c) that the James who married Mary Dibble was the James, son of John and Ann.
Can anyone help?
Jenny

Mary SHORNEY, b. c1801, Stogursey

jlclake — 2007-07-10 09:03:18Z

Does anyone have any information about the Mary Shorney, b. c1801, Stogursey, Somerset, who married James Elworthy of Devon in about 1821/22 and spent the rest of her life in Plymouth? I have lots of data about her children and further descendents, but nothing about her parentage and siblings.

Charles Joseph Shorney - 3rd Class Passenger on the Titanic from England

titanic_project — 2007-06-20 14:05:38Z

Source, photo and biography: (not all available on some passengers)

http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/biography/1212/

Charles Joseph Shorney
s/o Austin and Margaret (Nelson) Shorney

Born: 17 August 1889
Residence: Heron's Ghyll, Sussex, England
Occupation: Valet
Destination: New York City, New York, USA
Status: died in sinking - body not recovered

**not a relative - posting for genealogical purposes only, and I have no more information regarding this passenger.

Re: Shorney family tree

te131 — 2007-02-02 14:40:04Z

Good afternoon
I know its almost 9 months ago you asked the question about Elizabeth married to a Edwin Onion. I am related via my GGrandfather Jesse who was a younger brother to Elizabeth.
I have some detail about that family but Im sure its not complete.
Contact me on ted.shorney@tiscali.co.uk if you are still stuck.
Regards
Ted Shorney.

Re: Shorney family tree

morva50 — 2006-07-15 19:46:14Z

Do you have any records of an Elizabeth Shorney of Cannington marrying an Edwin Onion in 1840 in Cannington.
I am a descendant.

Thanks

Re: Shorneys in Bristol

2006-02-20 12:38:41Z

I was just searching the web for Shorney info and found this. I am from Bristol and my grandfather was born in Wales, in Ferndale. Any relation?

William Shorney b. 13 Feb 1756 at Stogursey

te131 — 2005-11-22 15:23:24Z

William Shorney's parents were Robert and Amey (nee Nurton m. 31 May 1748. Robert buried 16 Jun 1766. Amey buried 14 Dec 1792 all at Stogursey).
William had 3 sisters, 1. Elizabeth b.30 Jan 1749.m.John Thorne 1 Oct 1774. 2. Ann b.28 Feb 1752. m.James Burland 3 Apr 1790. 3. Mary b. 28 Apr 1754. m. John Luckwell 21 Apr 1778. All again at Stogursey.
Other than his baptism in Stogursey I can find no other info on William can anybody help.

john,francis shorney

l_safarik — 2004-12-05 03:44:01Z

im looking for info on francis or john shorney from schuyler,nebraska. 1880 . john b1857 francis b1863 johns wife annie b1857 daughters jennie.m b1879 ellen b1880. any info helpful thanks

Re: Shorney Family Tree

2004-02-02 16:05:40Z

julie .are you related to the julie shorney who worked for dan technology thanks jeff

Shorneys in Bristol

2003-11-10 19:55:32Z

Hey! I come from a line of Shorneys that live in Bristol (and Portishead, etc.) I believe that my line of Shorneys came over from Ireland during the Potato famine, and then settled in Wales and the South West of England (??) My grandfather (who is in his 70s) was born in Wales, and had many brothers and sisters. The siblings all now live around the Bristol area. My gradfather's name is Thomas George Shorney (I'm Thomas George Kenneth Shorney!) and his father, I believe, was also a Thomas Shorney.

I'd appreciate any help in finding out more about my family tree, and whether they connect to yours...

Thanks, Tom

Re: Shorney Family Tree

2002-11-17 12:41:46Z

Hello, my farther is called, Edward, he origanally came from Taunton. He has 2 brothers James and Richard and one sister Judith. His farther was called Arthur who came from weston-s-mare, with his brother Jessie, do'es this link up with anything you might know?

shorneys 17th/ 18th century

thenightrider — 2002-08-13 14:41:54Z

infomation wanted on the parents of james shorney (15-3-1729/30 at nether stowey i believe his father may be john shorney and his mother ann cridland i have been told a john shorney was bpt. on 8-8-1688 at stogursey the son of john & mary shorney and that ann cridland was bpt. 23-1-1686/7 at nether stowey. date of marriage 1717. my direct line if correct is from john - james - william - william - jesse shorney.
ann would be very interested if you could contact her, via me (roy) as she has not got a computer. but very interested in her line of shorneys. looking forward to your reply.

many thanks roy

shorneys 17th/18th century

thenightrider — 2002-08-13 14:41:54Z

information wanted on the parents of james shorney (bapt 15-3-1729/30 at nether stowey)
i believe his father may be john shorney and his mother ann cridland.
i have been told that a john shorney was bapt on 8-8-1688 at stogursey the son of john & mary shorney and that ann cridland was bapt 23-1-1686/7 at nether stowey, date of marriage 1717.
my direct line if correct is from john- james- william- william- jesse shorney.

Re: shorneys 17th/18th century

2002-08-06 06:48:57Z

I am descended from James Shorney who married Joan Rich at Charlinch in 1754. It would be intresting to know whether this is the James you are looking for.

SHORNEY of Somerset, UK

Kvilhaugveien — 2002-01-10 19:32:42Z

My gg-grandmother, Sarah Bartlett (nee Shorney) was born in Cannington, Somerset, in about 1826, the daughter of Samuel Shorney and Agnes, nee Pridham. Further back the Shorneys seem to have lived in Charlinch. Is anyone interested in this name in that are?

SHORNEY family

Kvilhaugveien — 2002-01-10 19:32:42Z

I've just read your reply to Rosalie. I think the marriage you're referring to was of John Shorney and Ann Davy, at Nether Stowey on 2nd February 1749. I'd noted this down, but not firmly connected it with our James.

SHORNEY family - Quantocks

Kvilhaugveien — 2002-01-10 19:32:42Z

I too am a descendant of James Shorney and Joan Rich, through their son William who married Elizabeth Hallett. One of their sons, Samuel married Agnes Pridham, and my line descends from there.

SHORNEY family

Kvilhaugveien — 2002-01-10 19:32:42Z

Thanks, Jonathan. The names Pridham and Bridham are just two spellings of a number of alternatives. I've presumed the "P" version is correct from the birth certificates of several of Sarah's children, when she spells her middle name thus. Also, her own baptism spells it that way. However - you know what parish records are like! I now have the RICH family line back to the mid-1500s, thanks to a lady in Australia. If you e-mail me, I'll pass it on to you. I am at: kvilhaugveien@aol.com. (Don't be put off by a Norwegian handle on an American server - I'm in Bath!)

Shorney Frank

Nannybabs — 2001-06-28 13:34:40Z

Hi everyone.
I am researching my g-g-grandparents Frank Shorney and Sarah Williams.According to the 1881 Census Frank was born in 1851 in Over Listcombe? (County not known). Sarah was born in 1854 in Exeter Devon. In 1881 they were living in Newport, Monmouthshire, were the family have lived ever since. Any help would be much appreciated, especially the whereabouts of Over Listcombe. Is this a mis-spelling perhaps
With hope, Barbara Marsh

Shorneys from Weston-s-Mare

2001-03-03 07:39:43Z

Julie-Ann,
Apologies for being slow in replying. I don't look here very often. Gilbert Shorney was my grandfather's first cousin. Gilbert was the son of Edward who was the eldest son of Henry. My grandfather, Loudon John (Jack) was the son of John Neath, the youngest son of Henry. I have a lot more information on the family. Please e-mail me directly at l.morgan@ucl.ac.uk
Lesley

Roy for Ann Shorney, Lesley Morgan, Jonathon Shorney, Colin Hunt,

2001-02-22 22:51:16Z

Hello all, this is a reply to Roy, darn it I forget what he asked, because in the meantime I have copied every message on this board and pasted it into Word, so I can read it from beginning to end. Guys, we are going around in circles. Lets share our email addresses and write to each other as a group direct. Back to Roy, most of my pre 1850 Shorney information that relates to England was provided by Lesley Morgan. I had found some information from IGI and had some anecdotal info. but as Lesley took her info. from Census returns and Parish registers, wherever there was a variation, I have adopted Lesley's information. Where you have given me a private email address in the past, I will send you my tree and you can get back to me privately please and tell me how you think we all fit together. My address is shorney@omninet.net.au Rgards Rosalie

Shorney Family Tree

2000-12-07 08:50:47Z

My mother's maiden name is Susan Shorney and my grandad was Clifford Shorney of Weston-super-Mare (UK), born 12 September 1913. His parents were Gilbert Shorney and Gertrude. Apparently they owned a guest-house in WSM and he was known as a local artist. I have just started to research my family tree but I can't find any mention of this part of the family anywhere on the net. I have an uncle John Shorney and cousins with this family name, mainly in the midlands area of the UK. Can anyone help?

Shorney/Davy

2000-09-17 22:09:58Z

Hi Colin
I have John and Ann Davy in my family.

Q1.
Who is the James you refer to in your previous mail.

Q2.
Lesley, Jonathon and Colin. Are any of you interested in us all talking directley to each other instead of through this message board which is not the easiest?
Rosalie

desendants of William Shorney

2000-09-17 07:52:30Z

Jonathan,
I would be interested to know more about your sources, since we clearly disagree about several important details. I have a lot of information about my ancestor Henry, from the censuses and his father's will. Where did you find Henry's birthplace registered as Dodington ? I have looked at the Cannington parish register several times and the entry for baptisms in 1818 is difficult to read and does look like James. I have no other evidence for a James in that family but the censuses and death certificate suggest that this person was Henry. I have not come across the other William either. Maybe we sould continue this discussion more directly since I find this bulletin board a bit cumbersome. My e-mail address is l.morgan@ucl.ac.uk but I am retired and live in Stogumber.
Lesley

Murder of Jane Shorney

2000-09-16 22:22:39Z

Hi Richard, (was it? I can't go back to your email to check your name.)
Lesley Morgan of England is searching the Shorneys and now thinks there were 3 main families in Somerset. She thinks her branch were one of the poorer families and that my branch was the best educated of the 3.
Your John being in Stogumber would indicate either a connection or a huge coincidence.
As to Jane Shorney, I have the book published a couple of years ago, I think she must be from one of the poorer families. And my liberated nieces think the support for Walford is chauvenistic. After all, they argue that he did not have to unzip his pants. :)
Jane may not really have been half witted just a product of her time. So cheer up, we certainly had some very bright ancestors closer to my life time.
What did your father do, and grandfather etc. do? Assuming it is the male line that is your Shorney ancestors.
The name has died out in Aust. All descendants now come down female lines.

Richard, try using my email if you want to get back to me.
shorney@omninet.net.au
Cheers. Rosalie Glynn nee Heaslip nee Shorney.

Shorney family tree

2000-09-16 16:06:55Z

Rosalie,
I think there is a link between all of us on this Shorney message board, but some things dont quite add up.
I believe James Shorney (my gggg-grandfather), who married Joan Rich in 1754, was the son of a John and Ann, but I dont have Anns maiden name.
This cannot be the Ann Cridland you refer to if their first child was born in 1718 because this John was baptised in 1722, but I suppose he could be another of their children. I say this because my John was baptised in Stogursey, and the couple came from Bicknoller.
It is interesting you mention the Castle of Comfort because you may know of the celebrated case of a John Walford, born in Over Stowey in 1765, who married a Jane Shorney, but killed her one night on their way to the Castle of Comfort pub. After a trial at Bridgwater Assizes he was sentenced to death and became, it is thought, the last man to be hanged on a gibbet. This took place near the murder spot a short distance from the Castle of Comfort, and is marked on the Ordnance Survey as Walfords Gibbet! Unfortunately, for us, all the accounts show public opinion very much on Walfords side, because he had been forced to marry this half-witted girl after she had borne their child!
That's us then, descendants of labourers and half-wits!

Shorney family tree

2000-09-16 15:05:17Z

Colin,
My records on this seem incorrect, as I have Samuel marrying an Agnes Bridham rather than Pridham, and having four children all girls namely, Sarah Bridham (presumably a middle name), Caroline (who married an N. Williams in 1852), Louisa and Agnes.

Shorney family tree

2000-09-16 14:51:25Z

Lesley,
According to my information Henry was in fact the youngest child, or one of the youngest, of William and Rebecca. It does look as though the practice in these big families was to name the first boys John, William and James, presumably after their fathers, uncles and grandfathers. Henry comes further down the pecking order (although having said that, Jesse's first child by his first wife was indeed Henry!!).
William and Rebecca's children were Elizabeth (born 1815), James (1817), Jane (1820), Charles (1823), Christabella Withers (1826), Jesse (1828), Joseph (1828), Robert Withers (1834), William (183-), and Henry (183-) - the precise dates of the last two being unavailable.
Henry's birthplace is registered as Dodington, but apart from that I have no more information about him, but then I expect you do. It is interesting to learn that he too went to Weston, but I suppose that is to be expected because many seem originally to have been in the building trade in the Cannington area, several being described as master carpenters, and Weston must have opened up lucrative new possibilities.
My father, who is 85 this month, was born in Exeter Road, Weston, and remembers the building activity going on, although he believes it was at its peak at around 1900. In his youth it was on the wane but he moved away soon after his father died in 1928 and cannot say when it actually came to an end.
He remembers how they got stone from the local quarry, and there were builders' yards at the back of the house where the wood was left for years to cure. In one book I have seen, there is a picture of Jesse who is described as a demolition contractor, so it seems they knocked 'em down as well as put 'em up!
The houses are still there and seem to be very solid. They don't make them like they used to!
Please let me know if you have any more information about the Shorneys in Weston. I am sure my father would be interested - and it may jog his memory.

descendants William Shorney

2000-08-21 10:48:29Z

Jonathan, I too am descended from William
Shorney and Rebecca Withers, via their eldest
son Henry. He too moved to W.S.M and like
the rest of the family was in the building
trade though not nearly as successful as his
illustrious brother Jesse. I would be very
interested to learn more about the Shorneys
in W.S.M and what befell them all.

Quantock Shorney's

2000-08-04 04:57:55Z

Hey Jonathan, my Shorneys came from around the Quantocks too. Your names don't seem to connect with mine but perhaps we just came down from different brothers.
I'd love for you to contact me.
Rosalie on shorney@omninet.net.au

Shorney family tree

2000-06-08 17:40:29Z

The Shorneys, under a variety of spellings, originally Shornway, date back at least to the 1500s in Somerset, which seems to have been the place of origin, dispelling a theory that the name was Irish. However, just what the source of the name is remains a mystery.
Several groups appear to have taken root in villages near the Quantocks and my ancestry dates at least from James Shorney of Charlinch who married Joan Rich in 1754.
The striking feature is the number of children these families had ten was not uncommon but then, lets face it, there was no Coronation Street or Match of the Day in those days.
James and Joan had ten children, one of whom, William, married Elizabeth Hallet and had 11 children, one of whom, the unimaginatively-named William, married Rebecca Withers, who, true to form, had ten children.
One of these, Jesse, became a famous builder in Weston-super-Mare, building many houses in the Clarence Park area at a time in the late 19th century when the resort was developing rapidly. He was helped by his nephew, my grandfather Frank, who, alas, died long before I was born.
It is interesting to note how the Shorneys dispersed with the advent of the railways, while others emigrated to Australia and New Zealand. One even went down on the Titanic.

Shorney's of Somerset and Cridland

2000-04-27 07:26:34Z

Hi Colin, I think my line of Shorney's is different to yours, but I have a connection in England who is searching lines unlinked to mine.
Cridland. I am curious, as I too have Cridland in my Shorney line. John Shorney married Ann Cridland in ? First child was born 1718. My Shorneys came from around the Quantocks. Stogumber, Stogursey, the Castle of Comfort, etc. my email address is
shorney@omninet.net.au I may not get back to this board, so if you would like to share contacts etc, please get in touch. Rosalie, Albany Western Australia