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Re: Looking for info on my Greatgrandmother Olive Horton Smart

chdodge_50 — 2012-05-24 04:00:51Z

Greetings! Captain Elisha Smart and Olive Horton Smart were my great-great grandparents. I am interested (among other things) in developing genealogies on all of their children. If you are still interested in learning more about Olive and in sharing information, feel free to contact me. By the way, the 150th anniversary of Elisha Smart's death in combat at the Battle of Fair Oaks (Seven Pines), Virginia, during the American Civil War, is just a few days away on May 31, 2012. I will be toasting his memory! Regards, Cliff Dodge P.S. Annie Smart Dodge was my great-grandmother (looking at your listed photographs).

Re: Another Descendant of Hiram Smart

darensmart1 — 2012-05-05 17:47:04Z

Just for the record;

I realize this is far "after the fact", but there were a couple Grover Cleveland Smarts.
Grover Cleveland became a popular name, because of President Grover Cleveland (and many of the Smarts were Democrats during this time)

The Grover Cleveland Smart that Phil, Patricia, Bill, and myself are related to: was the son of "Josie Smart".

Mary Josephine "Josie" Smart Tesseneer, was the daughter of William Gettys Smart (and thus also the grand daughter of Joseph "Hiram" Smart).
"Garney" is buried at Union Baptist Church in Polkville, NC.
Here is "our" Grover Cleveland Smart (died 1938):
Link: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=83...

As mentioned, other Grover Cleveland Smarts were around

There is a Grover Cleveland Smart (d. 1943) buried in VA.
Link: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Sm...;

There is a Grover Cleveland Smart (d. 1944) buried in KY
Link: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Sm...;

Corn-fusing at times, eh?

Any questions, I will try and help. Please e-mail me direct at steelshot4ducks@yahoo.com

Thanks

Smart, Richard & Caroline

MaHaselton — 2012-05-05 00:43:15Z

Info required Richard Smart (1822) Warwickshire, married Caroline Ryan in South Africa. Richard in British Army, served in India and South Africa.

Smart, Richard & Caroline

MaHaselton — 2012-05-05 00:42:07Z

Info required Richard Smart Warwickshire, married Caroline Ryan in South Africa. Richard in British Army, served in India and South Africa.

Re: Smarts from the South

englishanne — 2012-04-17 14:44:15Z

Hi - I believe she is the daughter of James Smart, Jr, who is the brother of nathan smart.

Re: Need Will of William Smart Sr. of Rutherford Co., NC

eesmart — 2012-03-12 16:07:19Z

This Joseph is the Joseph who married Elizabeth White, not his son!

Smart Family - Kirriemuir & Forfar, Angus

suziebloo — 2012-02-22 20:14:23Z

Any information on any member of this family would be greatly appreciated.

Kirriemuir - JAMES 1822-1867, Ann C1824-1880, Thomas 1826-1900& Margaret 1830 issue of Charles Smart & Jean Lowdon***

Kirriemuir - Ann C1842-1911, Charles 1847, Margaret 1850 & Alexander 1852-1921 issue of JAMES & Jean Barrie***

Forfar - James Adamson 1880-1959, Alexander (Sandy) 1881-1946, Helen Samson 1883-1939, Charles Adamson 1885 (emigrated to Canada, John Peffers 1887, Margaret Adamson 1888-1971, Rose Clark 1890-1973, Ann Glen 1893-1972 & ALLAN Adamson 1896-1965 Issue of ALEXANDER & Ann Adamson***

Re: Joshua Smart born 07 Feb 1769 in NH had how many children?

smarttom — 2012-02-16 21:36:33Z

Jacob Smart is shown in this family tree on ancestry.com as the son of Joshua Smart and Hanna Nickerson: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/9012702/person/148722673. This says he married Susanne Blake and had seven children: Robert, Jacob, Miriam, Richard, William, Alonzo, and Benjamin.

Re: Smarts in SC

brittdesn — 2012-02-13 04:52:17Z

I am researching the Smarts in SC. I am related to the Bosticks in Clyo and my g-grandmother's mother's surname was Bostick. I would love any information you have!

Thanks!

Marcus L. Smart

ras1043 — 2012-01-29 01:25:59Z

Trying to find parents of Marcus L. Smart born about 1837 in North Carolina. His dad would likely be from Tennessee. Contact ras1043@hotmail.com. Thanks,

Re: Joshua Smart born 07 Feb 1769 in NH had how many children?

1_saab93 — 2012-01-23 05:22:29Z

The History and Genealogy of Greenbush Maine (May 2001, Page 219) documents Jacob Smart (1792-1866) as a son of Deacon Joshua Smart (Feb. 1769-March 31, 1859).

Jacob Smart married Susanna Blake (1797-1866)
9 Children are listed: Jacob, Miriam, Robert, Richard, Annis T., William Henry, Alonzo, Nehemiah, and Benjamin.

Title History and Genealogy of Greenbush, Maine: (Jun 1, 2001)
Author E. M. Crouch
Publisher Higginson Book Company, 2001
ISBN 0740437526, 9780740437526
Length 364 pages

Re: Another Descendant of Hiram Smart

teesmart — 2012-01-12 00:14:40Z

my e-mail is steelshot4ducks@yahoo.com

Re: Another Descendant of Hiram Smart

teesmart — 2012-01-12 00:13:43Z

And Phil.... another point of interest is....

William Gettys Smart, his brother Philo Whitefield Smart, and Emma's husband - was all enlisted in Co. A, 49 NC Infantry , CSA

So we have 3 links to the Civil war - and maybe even more in that same family line. I plan to check the rest of the names once I get back to the Old Tryon Genealogy Society.

Philo was killed in the war, but William Gettys Smart named a son after his brother that had died. Thus you will run into two Philo Whitefield Smarts while doing research.

Troy

Re: Another Descendant of Hiram Smart

teesmart — 2012-01-12 00:07:52Z

Phil, in response to your comment "The birth dates of some of the last three must be wrong unless they were triplets."

You are correct in assuming the dates are wrong.
I am a descendant of Hiram Smart's son William G. (Gettys) Smart, through one of those 3 Children... Leehoarse.

Emma "Emily" Smart was born in 1879 and died in 1965
Lee Hoarse Smart was born in 1881 and died in 1966

Guyto (along with Horn Bishop)is eluding me at the moment, but I will find his grave sooner or later.
Patricia and I plan to meet in sometime Feb in Cleveland County, and walk a couple cemeteries to look for headstones.

Please feel free to e-mail me.

Patricia - hope to see you again soon!
:)

Re: Smart

dras41 — 2012-01-11 15:19:31Z

I have always heard from my father that his Smart ancestors were part of the McKenzie clan but cannot help with information about Scottish Smarts between 1066 and 1775 and would like to learn more, myself. I am descended from an Alexander Smart born 1755 in Edzell (near Brechin), Angus, Scotland who married Agnes Gold. The city of Dundee in Angus, referenced in family written communications, is just across the Firth of Tay from Fife, so the McKenzie Smarts must have continued northward.

Looking for info on my Greatgrandmother Olive Horton Smart

SondranN — 2011-12-07 22:06:16Z

Have come to a dead end on my gram and want to know if she or her family had Indian blood. Her husband,my Greatgrandfather, was Capt. Elisha Smart. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you

Smart

JoeMel99 — 2011-12-02 20:02:58Z

I am currently researching the Smart sep of the Mckenzie clan.

All Smarts are born in the county of Fife, Scotand

b. abt. 1772/1775 William/Margaret (Dingwall) Smart
b. 29/Jul/1798 John/Barbara Lyon (Hood) Smart
b. abt. 1840 John/Isabella (Reekie)Smart
b. 07/Aug/1870 David/Margaret (Smart) Smart
b. 07/July/1890 Donald Grant/Lillian (Andrews) Smart

I have some pictures of the houses that were lived in and of the people as well.

The earliest Smart recorded was in 1066 (in Southfolk England) during the collection of taxation data, for the king (a.k.a. doomsday book). My understanding is that the Smarts travelled along the east coast up into Scotland. As I have hit the wall going backwards my next objective is to go from 1066 up to 1772/75. Looking forward to any information, that anyone has. If you believe that you linage is the same as mine, I may have some information to assist in you search.

Re: John and Daisy Smart

MorrisGieselman — 2011-11-29 21:22:35Z

This is my step Father-in-laws line. I have some data combed from ancestry and from Familysearch.org. I also have some research that my step-father-in-law's dad did.
My oldest relative in that line is John Smart b. 1791 in St. Wenn, Cornwall England. I found 2 sons, Henry b. 1824 and John b. 1829, and a daughter named Genefer b. 1833. I got this from 1851 England Census. If I remember there were several John Smarts, but this was the best fit.
His son, John, was your great grandparent. My step FIL came from his son John b. 1867 d. 1918, an older brother of Clara. I have Clara born abt 1879 in Iowa, but hadn't really looked into her yet.
Here is a list of all the siblings of Clara i have:
Mary Jane b. 1858 in Bodmin, Cornwall, England
Jessie b. 1863 same place
John b. 1867 same place
Felix b. 1870 in England
Albert b. 1873 in Iowa
Elizabeth b. 1875 in Iowa
Susan b. 1877 in Iowa

Let me know if this matches what you have or not. Let me know if you need anymore specifics. I don't have many death dates, but haven't spent as much time on this line as I do on my own. I'm always glad to share info.

Re: John and Daisy Smart

janroze — 2011-11-29 16:04:24Z

re: John and Daisy Smart comments on Ancestry.com.

John Smart and Elizabeth Chapman were my great-grandparents. Their daughter Clara May and her husband, Hugh A. Lanning were my grandparents and their daughter Susie Lucille was my mother. All of us lived in and near Ottumwa IA.

Aside from what you already mentioned, about the son John,do you have other information about either family?

Thanks for sharing on ancestry.com

Re: John and Daisy Smart

janroze — 2011-11-29 16:02:34Z

Re: John Smart/Margaret Hill Monument Pic from Dumfermline

janroze — 2011-11-29 13:09:34Z

What a treasure! I wish they were my Smarts.

Re: Penelope Smart/Stewart/Glass. Monument Pic from Scotland

janroze — 2011-11-29 13:06:35Z

Noting the tail on the "G" in "lass" and no tail on the "C" in the next to last line, it seems to be your name, Glass.

Re: SMARTs out of Maryland/Virginia 1800ish

themendiola — 2011-11-29 07:01:34Z

Hi! I am the g.g.g.grandson of Pettis Noah Smart. My g.g. grandmother was his daughter Elizabeth Smart Leary. I am also looking for information about my ggg grandpa. I hope you can help me. Thanks.

Re: Smart - James Joseph Smart and Ralph Orlando Smart

Monbulk — 2011-11-27 21:03:02Z

A Joseph Smart appears in Castlemaine ,Victoria AustralianGold fields 1853.
I have a 450 Smarts family tree starting with a Henry Smart 1822-1882 origin Staforshire U.K and settled in the above goldfields.
My contact email "john@ djs.to"

Re: smart of leicester, england

albertbarratt — 2011-11-09 12:37:08Z

Hi yes my grandmother was married to George Smart killed in action ww1 her name was mary elizabeth garner they married oct 11 1915 at st marys church austey george was 24yrs old my gran was 25. still have george's medals from the war .

Re: Herbert Cecil Smart and son Ian Russell Smart Wellington New Zealand

sallyewin51 — 2011-11-06 22:56:34Z

Hello Linda,

Thank you for your interest. I did in fact find those records on another website today, but am puzzled what happened to Ian - whether he married, etc. I am also interested in his sister, Jocelyn Allene, born 1942, and cannot find any records for her either.

I am pretty good with UK records, so if I can help you please ask.

Use sally@ewin.me.uk

Best wishes, Sally

Re: Herbert Cecil Smart and son Ian Russell Smart Wellington New Zealand

mymates — 2011-11-06 22:32:21Z

Hello Sally

Have you checked out Chris Mahoney's website? http://www.chrismahoney.co.nz/ If you click on "Records", it lists births, marriages and deaths for all Smarts in New Zealand from 1840 to 1990. Herbert Cecil died in Auckland in 1969, aged 77. Ian Russell was born in 1927 in Auckland.

The following is from an online search of http://www.manukau.govt.nz/en/CouncilServices/ManukauMemoria...

Herbert Cecil Smart
Date of Death: Saturday, February 15, 1969
Block: Old Papatoetoe Cemetery, Body / Ashes Lot:ANGLI-PLOT-963Date
Buried: Tuesday, February 18, 1969

Can't find any further mention of Ian Russell on Chris's website after the mention of his birth - no marriages or death notices - he could still be alive or maybe he left the country?

Kind regards, Linda
P.S. I have no Smarts in my family line but did some research for a friend for any mention of his Scottish Smart family.

Re: smart of leicester, england

polidor — 2011-11-05 23:47:10Z

I have Harriet and Mary Smart b Bedfordshire who married brothers Richard and William Silver.

Harriet and Mary had parents Thomas Smart and Elizabeth nee Wright both b Leicestershire.

Stella nee Smart aka polidor

Herbert Cecil Smart and son Ian Russell Smart Wellington New Zealand

sallyewin51 — 2011-11-05 14:20:22Z

Can anyone help me find information about my two relatives.

Herbert Cecil Smart emigrated to New Zealand between 1911 and 1919. His son Ian Russell Smart was probably born in the 1920's. I am in England and I am finding it difficult to source information.

Regards, Sally Ewin

Smart family

dianemurton45 — 2011-10-21 13:25:33Z

Looking for information on the Smart family who lived at
Stambourne Villas Brookend Glos. Henry was a river pilot married to Maria (nee Cooper) they had five children
Laura Annie was one of them (my paternal grandmother)

SMART - HILTON

SandyCarneiro74 — 2011-10-01 14:41:48Z

Does anyone have info on a John SMART that married a Betsy HILTON about 1765 in Rockingham, NH? I believe they had at least 3 children:
Hilton Smart who died in 1796 on the brig Dove in Trinidad.
Rhoda Smart who died 7 Feb 1856 in Northwood, Rockingham, NH
John Smart born abt 1770 in Rockingham and died aft 1835. John Jr had moved to Maine in 1808.

Re: Joshua Smart born 07 Feb 1769 in NH had how many children?

salleyct — 2011-10-01 03:43:17Z

I have a published history of the SMART family, written by a grandson of Joshua SMART and Hannah Nickerson. called: "Smart Genealogy More particularly of Winthrop Smart and his descendants" by Samuel M Smart published Portland Maine 1900 reprinted Tilton New Hampshire 1949

It does not list a Jacob SMART as one of their children.The author was a son of Richard Smart.

This history is 28 pages. I don't find a Jacob listed as a child in any of the generations from Winthrop on down.

Smart - James Joseph Smart and Ralph Orlando Smart

rachelreid9 — 2011-09-05 13:13:55Z

looking for any info one has on a James Joseph Smart born about 1837 possibly in Stratford, Essex, England and a Ralph Orlando Smart born around 1863 in Greenwich, Kent, England.

Raymond L. Smartt Sr.

Rebel3423 — 2011-09-04 19:06:04Z

Hello everyone, I have began to put together a family tree and I am stuck on my great grandfathers side of the family. His name was Raymond Smartt Sr. born January 31, 1911 and died on March 15,1993. He was raised and lived in McMinnville Tennessee area and then move to Las Vegas Nevada. He married Mattie Argo who was the daughter of Bruce Argo and Nellie Rhea. Raymond and Mattie had two children that I know of, Raymond Jr. and Francis Smartt Molnar. I am looking for information on Raymond Sr. parents and lineage. Any help would be appreciated

Re: John and Daisy Smart

leslievaughn — 2011-08-28 02:47:34Z

Familysearch.org is free and getting better each day. If you want to do a genealogical act of kindness you can volunteer to index all sorts of records so others can benefit. I have been indexing for several years and it is very rewarding. Records to index are from all over the world and in many languages.

Leslie Vaughn

Good luck on your search for John and Daisy Smart. My search for my Smarts is not going well.

Re: John and Daisy Smart

MorrisGieselman — 2011-08-28 02:38:20Z

Thank you so much for this insight. I never knew familysearch.org existed. I can't wait to use it on all my lines.
This isn't actually my line either. It's my step-father-in-law's line that I'm searching for him.
You have been a great help!!

Re: John and Daisy Smart

hennymac — 2011-08-27 23:59:27Z

Hi,Do you know John SMARTs parents names. I have a Renzie(sp) SMART who married an Adelaide GILLER in 1894. They had 3 sons John, Pat & Geoffrey.
Helen McNamara
NZ
hennymac1941@yahoo.co.nz

Re: John and Daisy Smart

leslievaughn — 2011-08-27 20:50:45Z

Also on familysearch.org is the marriage record of John Smart and Daisy Young on 20 Oct 1892 in Iowa. His parents names are John Smart and Elizabeth Chapman and her parents are John Young and Mary J. Soaper.

Re: John and Daisy Smart

leslievaughn — 2011-08-27 20:41:34Z

In the 1871 Census of Bodmin Cornwall is a John Smart age 42 married to a 28 year old Elizabeth. Among the children is a 3 year old son John. Next door is a family of Chapman's of the right age to be Elizabeth's parents.

Re: John and Daisy Smart

leslievaughn — 2011-08-27 20:30:21Z

Are you just interested in the immediate family? I cannot help you with the mystery of the children but go to familysearch.org and look at the Illinois deaths. There is an extraction for the death of a John Smart who may be your guy. He died 27 April 1918 in LaGrange IL. He was born in England on 21 Dec 1867 and his parents are John Smart and Elizabeth Chapman. I believe this is the same person as in the 1910 census of Lyons, IL. I would definatly order the film from your FHC from which this extract is based. Or order the death record from Cook Co. IL.

Also on familysearch.org is an extract of Florence's birth record in 1896 and an unnamed child of John and Daisy in 1896 There is Arly in 1897 These says that Daisy's last name is Young.

I cannot answer your mystery of the wherabouts of Thomas and Harry in 1910 except to say the enumerator may have forgotten to include them or perhaps they were adopted after 1910. The social security death index says that Harry died in 1969 in Cook co. Ill. Perhaps you could send for his death certificate or his social security application to find out for sure if he is the son of John and Daisy

I am not related to this family and only took up your challenge so I have no further information.

Leslie

John and Daisy Smart

MorrisGieselman — 2011-08-27 19:13:35Z

I have hit a wall.
John Smart Dec 1869 England
Arrived in 1871 or 1874 to Iowa and later moved to Illinois.
Married Daisy A. in 1893.
In the 1910 census John and Daisy are listed with Florence, Lloyd, and Leroy (their children)
However in 1920 census Daisy is listed without John, but with Florence, Lloyd, Leroy, Thomas, and Harry. The problem is Thomas was born 1902 and Harry in 1904. They are listed as sons. I can't find either Thomas or Harry in the 1910 census.

Does anyone know anymore about this family.

Eileen Mary Smart father John Smart

jenwilhelm49 — 2011-08-15 01:58:41Z

I am looking for parents of Eileen Mary Smart, born about 1905 died 1943 Melbourne, Victoria, according to her death her father was John Smart and mother Elsie Unknown. I can not find either a John or Elsie on the Victorian Electoral Roll. I have been led to believe that Eileen was born in Victoria, Aust but I can't find her birth or parents marriage on the Victorian indexes. Eileen married Dennis Ford in 1932 in Victoria, Aust
Both Dennis and Eileen first appear on the Electoral Roll in 1931 Eileen at 535 King St, and Dennis Ford at King St, no number, which either makes them born before 1911 but not in Victoria. Any help would be greatly accepted.

John Smart/Margaret Hill Monument Pic from Dumfermline

clddbd — 2011-08-14 05:59:29Z

In July 2011 I was visiting Dumfermline Abbey in Dumfermline Scotland and took this picture of a monument. I hope that someone finds it meaningful to their family
Cheryl

Penelope Smart/Stewart/Glass. Monument Pic from Scotland

clddbd — 2011-08-13 04:02:13Z

In July 2011 I was at Jedburgh Abbey in Jedburgh Scotland and took this picture. I hope it is meaningful to someone's family.
Cheryl
P.S. The stone is difficult to read. Unsure if William's last name is Class or Glass.

Re: trying to build a family tree

ras1043 — 2011-08-08 05:24:18Z

My dad, Thomas Jefferson Smart was brother of Aaron C. Smart now deceased & buried in National Cemetery in Webster, Fl. Was your grandmother Teresa from Silver Springs, Maryland. Contact me at ras1043@hotmail.com.

Re: Smart ancestors

SandyCarneiro — 2011-08-07 19:41:20Z

Does anyone know of the Hilton connection with the Smart's?
Land records show my John Smart was a son of John Smart & Betsy Hilton. I know the Hilton's also moved up to different areas of Maine from Exeter, NH.
Sandy

Re: Smart and Bailey ancestors

billschultz1949 — 2011-08-07 01:17:24Z

Tom,
Thanks for the feedback. I agree with the issues you have raised and have been trying to solve this problem. Apparently, I am not the only one, judging by the fact that I have yet to find any solid documentation confirming a connection between Francis Smart and my John Smart of Howland, ME (1819-1900). I will let you know if I solve the riddle. It looks like the Smarts moved slowly North from Exeter to Kittery to Brunswick, Waldo, Bangor and then the Howland,Maxfield, Sebois areas.
Fascinating to read so much history about these towns and the Smarts. Frustrating that I can't nail down the link. Maybe my John Smart isn't related to the rest but came down from Canada as a relatively recent immigrant. Oh well it keeps my old brain firing.
Bill

Re: Smart and Bailey ancestors

SandyCarneiro74 — 2011-08-04 17:32:12Z

Great info, sure wish they had followed more of the childrens line's. All I can find is my John Smart married Betsy Hilton around 1760 in Rockingham County. Betsy was d/o Edward & Elizabeth Hilton. The land records show when they were given land, bought land and the probate for John who died abt July 1773 and know they had at least 2 son's, Hilton(d/1796 at sea) & John both who have property. If it wasn't for land deeds I wouldn't know anything except for the 1806, 7 & 8 tax records when show John(s/o John & Betsy)when he sold his land and moved to Maine.

Re: Smart and Bailey ancestors

smarttom — 2011-08-04 15:16:36Z

Nothing like directing you to the tree you posted - LOL!

The other issue I see with Francis is the posted marriage to Sarah Deering. His will is on Ancestry.com and it says he gave his whole estate to his wife Mary. After her death, it passes to "his beloved kindred William Barter, Sarah Grindal, and Elizabeth and Martha Jones." This suggests he and Mary did not have any children.

A second source that verifies this is the "Genealogical Dictionary of Maine and New Hampshire", which lists Francis Smart, husbandman of Kittery, married to Mary Crockett: http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=gendime&ra.... Under "Crockett", we see Ephraim and wife Ann of Kittery and a listing for a daughter Ann who married Francis Smart. This source also mentions his will and no children are listed. Looking further, it appears the three "kindred" women in the will all had the Barter maiden name, so you may want to look for links there to either his or Mary Crockett's family.

That same dictionary shows a number of Sarah Deerings, one of whom was the daughter of Thomas and Elizabeth Deering, and was married by 1727 to Francis Deed of Kittery, a mariner. They had a child Elizabeth. This could be where your error is on her.

Re: Smart and Bailey ancestors

billschultz1949 — 2011-08-04 00:42:34Z

Thanks for this information and the reference to the Leslie book. The tree you cited is mine but most of the info, prior to John Smart (1819-1900) is from other trees that seem reliable. I am trying to clear up loose ends and you message is very helpful.
Bill