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SURMAN Edith 1974

t42Restland — 2012-04-25 16:43:55Z

SURMAN Edith 1974

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Re: Charles Surman

carkatcat59 — 2012-04-22 02:30:59Z

My grandfather born oct 5 1896, charles surman real name (Simon Surma) some how name was changed. Found sister in same nursing home as him after he died. Neither knowing the other was there. He married Alma Heisler. Don't know if same person. Lived in seymour Wisconsin. He was a polish descendent. Sisters last name Surma.

Re: Surman Family Tree

hgwade — 2012-03-07 00:26:08Z

Frederick Bond mar Mary Surman his sister and another brother also mar. Surman's. Frederick and Mary had two children, William and Elizabeth. After Mary's death Frederick re-married to Ann Sprosen they lived at Holmer Green Bucks. Frederick and Anne's son Thomas Owen Bond was my GGrandfather,
Heather Bond
Canada

Tonnie Surman Coffee

deanpat_1 — 2012-02-17 18:16:54Z

I am looking for any info about my grandmother's family. Born 1897. Died 1991. She married John Thomas Coffee in 1916.

Re: Surman Family Tree

brian75174 — 2012-01-09 23:58:31Z

George/Joseph Langley Surman,South Australia...??

Victor Thomas Surman born New Zealand

Gerry_Dalton — 2011-10-07 08:55:04Z

Victor Thomas Surman born NZ about 1880. I believe his parents were; father: Thomas Surman and mother: Florence nee Warwick
It is beleived Victor has a relationship with Amy Jane Dalton nee Sayers in the Cowra area of New South Wales.
Victor died in Cowra New South Wales in 1943 and is buried in the C of E section of the Cowra cemetery.
Looking for any further information about Victor and his family
Thanks in advance for any assistance

Re: Surman Family Tree

brian75174 — 2011-05-23 02:22:42Z

Brian Surman. 1930-- ,AUST.[ADELAIDE]

Re: Richard Surman will of 1821

surmangen — 2009-09-12 15:17:17Z

My e-mail address has changed to surmangen@windstream.net.

John Surman

Re: Surman of Horspath

surmangen — 2009-09-11 00:09:01Z

Elizabeth,
My family did settle in Ohio after coming down from Canada and my great-grandfather's name was Joseph although not yours. When I first began my Ohio research, I ran across another Joseph Surman several times and had to be careful to not view his records as those of my Joseph.
My lineage does come from the same Horsepath, Stanton Harcourt, Marcham, Fyfield, and Buckland areas back through the late 1500s. I also have a fair listinmg of the John Surman 1716 - 1798 lifespan although none of your names appear in it. HOWEVER, sometimes the family was not as clearly recorded when they were in a different country and mine spread out over 4 continents, so be patient.
As for contacting the Surman Family Historical Society, of which I am a member, or S*RM*N society, the following addresses should accomplish that for you if you wish to go that direction: Chairman: John S Sermon
design@johnsermon.demon.co.uk and
Secretary: Maureen Surman
Maureen@msurman.freeserve.co.uk

John Surman

Re: John SURMAN (1716-1798)

only1mon — 2009-08-26 11:16:17Z

Hi if I think you are looking for who I think you are it is my grandfathers (Colin Seagrave Surman) father or grandfather. I think John came from a family of 16, so it can be complicated.

I have just begun finding out for myself, my mother told me as I was watching who do you think you are irnoically enough. I have heard the names John and Elizabeth so it is a good bet they are the ones you are looking for and I am decended from. My brother and I are the last of that part of the bloodline until we have sons.

There is a man in oxford called John Surman, his father dedicatd his life to researching the family tree and then his son John took over. The family tree is bigger than a dinning table. The last time I saw it some years ago it went back to early 1600 or late 1500. I think one of the early men on the tree was actually the royal physician to King Charles the 1st.

Please do not take this as gospel as I have only really just started to look and learn myself. My father has a family tree that he is sending me so I can look when it arrives. Your best bet is to contact John Surman in Oxford, I wish to contact him too but do not have the details. This is how I found this site.

When I was younger they used to hold a Surman day or weekend or something in Bath I believe. I went when I was young but am unsure if it still takes place. If you know where White Ladies Aston is which is just outside of Worcester and on the way from Droitwich there is a church where loads of Surmans are buried. I am sure you will find decendants of John there. As I remember there is a pub called the copper kettle or something like that and there is a small track leading off it to a small church with an old iron gate. Maybe worth a look if you have no other joy.

Stay in touch and if I find John in Oxfords details I will pass them onto you. Happy hunting.

Richard J Surman

Re: Surman of Horspath

JTSingingStudio — 2009-08-24 06:59:58Z

I haven't got these names in my direct ancestry, but
My family ancestry goes back to from Stanton Harcourt in Oxfordshire - Stephen Surman 1761 - he had many children , including Charles Surman, who married Emma Deadman in 1830.and had many children (I have the names of the siblings here, if you find a connection).

I know that the members of the family moved to America in the mid 1800's but am not sure which ones, - It may have been Charles 1834 and Henry, who were both Shoemakers, but someone else from the Surmans may pick it up and know more.

Good luck with this, JT

Re: Surman of Horspath

Sarniguet — 2009-08-24 03:19:25Z

My greatgrandmother was mary catherine surman. He father was joseph john bernard surman. They lived in minster ohio. Is any of the surman in your family tree from ohio?

Thank You.

elizabeth sarniguet

email elizabethsarniguet@sbcglobal.net

Re: Surman Family name

landolfi11 — 2009-05-25 23:59:45Z

Hello All,

I am searching for information on Hannah Surman, who married Thomas Hindley. Their son, John Surman Hindley married Clarissa Stott in England and they had 8 children.

Any connection?

Sincerely,
Loribeth Holland (decendant of Hannah Surman)

Re: Surman Family name

sasteuer — 2009-04-22 22:37:10Z

Hi Cathy,

I know that this thread is old, but I hope you get this message. I am researching my grandfather's side and his father (my great grandfather) was Edward Suermann, Jr. Edward's mother Louisa Sophia(nee Schmidt)Suermann died in 1875 after her and Edward, Sr. daughter, Louisa (DOB 1872-death 1875) died. Edward, Sr and Edward, Jr. then moved to Aurora, IN from Cincinnati, Ohio. Edward, Jr. left home when he was about 16, he married Margaret Bahr and they had 6 children that lived. If you would like more information, please contact me. sasteuer@juno.com I would love to get any information you might have about the Suermann's.

Thanks,
Susan

Louise C. (Tyke) Surman, 91, daughter of , Jack and Josephine Tyke;

KENNELLYMARKA — 2008-09-16 05:14:35Z

Surman, Louise C.
Munhall

Louise C. (Tyke) Surman, 91,
of Munhall, died Saturday, Sept. 13, 2008. Beloved wife of the late James J. Surman; daughter of the late Jack and Josephine Tyke; mother of James R. (Anna Jean), of Elizabeth Township, Charles W. (Peg), of New York, N.Y., Jane Surman, of Pittsburgh, Thomas R. (Gloria) of Pittsburgh; Anthony J. "Dutch" (Denise), of Pittsburgh, and Louise Marie (Neil) Carr, of West Mifflin; sister of Jack P. (Mary) Tyke, of North Huntingdon, Anthony R. (Lois) Tyke, of Florida, Geraldine (the late Joe) Kieler, of West Mifflin, and the late Francis Tyke, Josephine Kapp and Euginea Rose Tyke; also survived by 14 grandchildren; and nine great-grandchildren. Louise was an artist and was the past president of the AARP and the Steel Valley Art Guild. She was a piano teacher and conducted the Louise Tyke Orchestra of Pittsburgh, when she met her husband, Jim, who played the trumpet in the band, The Polish Aristocrats. Louise taught each of her children to appreciate the finer things in life, music and the visual arts, by teaching each to play an instrument and oil painting. She so loved music that, as a teenager, she carried her cello on two street cars from Lincoln Place to Taylor Alderdice High School in Pittsburgh each day. Louise always had a smile and a good word for any one she ever met. Louise and Jim had a retail appliance store in Homestead Park, Surman Electric. Louise was also a CCD teacher at St. Therese Church. Friends received from 2 to 4 and 7 to 9 p.m. Monday and Tuesday at the SAVOLSKIS-WASIK-GLENN FUNERAL HOME INC., 3501 Main St., Munhall. Funeral Mass Wednesday, time later, in St. Therese Church.

St. Therese Church."

Re: Surman Family Tree

MaureenSurman1 — 2008-08-31 09:04:50Z

It's been a while since I looked at this branch of the family. Would be pleased to add your lineage to our archives.

Maureen

Re: Surman Family Tree

rtsermon1 — 2008-08-31 01:18:07Z

Thomas Croxford Sermon is my Great Grandfather. He lived and died in Bay City, MI. Tom was laid to rest at Green Ridge Cemetery.
Dick

Re: family tree

DKonopa — 2008-07-28 13:43:32Z

Dear Clifford,

My research has lead me to your post. My paternal grandmother was Katarzyna Wenckowska from home. She was born in Moglino Poland to Michal Wenckowski and Julianna Krasna. Her sister Franciszka was married to Edward Cislikowski, they would be the great-grandparents of your mother Dolores. I would be her 2nd cousin once removed and us 2nd cousins twice removed. Have you done any research on your mother's family? Do you know if Frances, Josephine and Katherine had any other siblings?

If you wish to respond directly to me- my e-mail address is szal@webtv.net

Dolores L (nee Szalasny) Konopa
Buffalo NY

Surman, Michael A. (OBIT PA 1-29-2008)

obituary33b — 2008-03-02 00:48:29Z

source: The Hanover, PA - Evening Sun 1-29-2008
Deceased: Surman, Michael A. (OBIT PA 1-29-2008)

Age of Deceased: 66
Death date: 1-25-2008
Last Address: New Oxford, PA
Date of Birth: not listed
Place of Birth: not listed

No relation to the deceased
For a FREE copy of full obit send email to: Bob
obituary@crosskeysvillage.net

Re: Surman of Horspath

JTSingingStudio — 2008-01-05 20:19:41Z

Dear Celina, thank you very much for replying to me, especially as I did not properly sign the e-mail I sent,
My name is Janice Thompson and I have recently inherited this tree, and when I started looking on the web I found that there was a large society of S*rm*ns, which I am in the process of joining.
So I starting looking to see if any names matched with the ones I had and saw your e-mails about Horspath.
I have got 2 Richards on the tree I have, Richard Son of Thomas 1749 (brother of Stephen Surman, who according to the tree is an ancestor of mine) Richard 1749 married Elizabeth Mallam, Horspath, had a son Henry.
There is also anther Richard mentioned on this tree, illeg son of Esther (daughter of Stephen Surman) , in 1812.
I must say that I have inherited this tree in handwritten form, much to my astonishment. I've been in touch with
Maureen and chairman John Surman, and seems almost certainly to be the same line.
Having said that I have yet to contact and find the author of the tree, who is a distant relation of mine.
However, I am pleased to be involved and I hope that is helpful in some way.
Kind regards Janice Thompson

Re: Surman of Horspath

cee41 — 2008-01-04 23:34:40Z

Hi
What a shame these things only surface when family members pass away.
appologies for taking time to get back to you. Have only just manged to sit down and sift through my tree info. It seems that Richard Surman is the connection. He is my husbands (clive) gt gt grandfather.

Richard
^
William Joseph
^
Joseph
^
Ronald
^
Clive
I would be interested to see any other information you have that relates to the Surmans.

Regards
Celina

Re: Surman of Horspath

JTSingingStudio — 2007-12-19 16:22:13Z

My father recently died (Swindon) and I have inherited a family tree of Surmans dating back to 1623. So I was looking up Surman whicn goes back thro' my family between 1623 and the mid 18th century.
On it there is a thread that may be useful to you -
Thomas Surman m Ann Jones @ St Mary Magdeline Oxford,
he had 11 chidren, 1722 -83 - the fourth son, Thomas Surman
Junior m Sarah Pearce in 1783 and moved to Horspath, also brother Richard Surman married Elizabeth Mal...went to Horspath. One of these might be your husband's ancestors
(I don't have the children's names - if it turns out to be
so I have further information on the ancestry.

Re: Surman of Horspath

cee41 — 2007-11-18 19:14:16Z

Hi Maureen
Hope you are well. I have managed to get back as far as Benjamin Surman.. B:1821.Oxfordshire,
D: 1906 Headington Bucks.
He was married to a Sarah Miles. (12.04.1845, Parish Church, Horspath)
His father was William Surman who was a labourer. I have a copy of the marriage cert and I think Sarahs fathers name was Francis(writing not very clear)., he was a labourer too by the looks of things.
Just wondered if anyone has anymore info which I could add to my tree.
Celina

Re: Looking For Relitives

MaureenSurman1 — 2006-12-07 15:24:16Z

Hope you are still 'viewing' Karen. Came across your post whilst doing a search. We have a S*rm*n DNA Project (variation on the vowels) and wondered if you knew of any male S*rm*n who would like to take part?
Regards
Maureen Surman

Re: Surman ancestors

2006-11-11 11:00:50Z

Sian

Hopefully I may be able to offer you some detail, although I haven't been doing much research on this for the last year or so as very busy with work.

Happy to hear from you direct to email nrichardson14@hotmail.com so you can tell me what you have so far.

Neil

Re: Surman ancestors

SianMajor — 2006-11-10 17:02:16Z

Hi,
I'm not sure I will get a reply to this.

I am the grand-daughter of Marjorie Lilian Edna Surman of Horspath (sister of Olive & daughter of Henry Mallam Surman & Lilian Ann).

So am related to both Jill Eastwood & Neil Richardson in a roudabout way.

Would be great to hear from you both, as I am having problems with the Family history

Re: Surman of Horspath

MaureenSurman1 — 2006-08-30 21:45:46Z

Celina, Was thinking of how you were progressing only last week. The newsletter is produced in the Spring and Autumn of each year and is sent out to members of the S*rm*n Family History Society. You can view the site through my own at
http://www.msurman.freeserve.co.uk/www/
The cost for membership is £5 per year for the UK and the address to send subscriptions to is at the bottom of the Membership Form shown on the site.
Hope you are making progress with your research.
Regards
Maureen Surman

Re: Surman of Horspath

cee41 — 2006-08-30 21:09:17Z

I would be interested in reading the S*rm*n newsletter. How do I go about it?

Re: Surman ancestors

2006-07-27 22:25:03Z

Do you now have the infomation you want? If not contact me off line, I have rather a lot on these people in my 8,200 surman tree database. Valerie

Re: Surman Family name

carriesgirl — 2006-06-14 17:53:03Z

Hi! I don't want to throw a wrench into your current search but maybe this information will help in some way. My gr gr grandfather was from Prussia and his name was not changed like alot of them were ( to make it easier for others to spell) His name was Edward Suermann pronounced "surman". He died in Aurora Indiana after marrying twice and fathering at least 7 children. Alot of times the last "n'" has been left off or the e" or both as your name indicates. Try "Suermann" when looking in Germany, Prussia for your relatives it may be the purest form of the name. Hope this helps you more than confuses! Happy hunting! Cathy

divorce record of Geoge A. Frank and Elisabeth Frank

2006-06-13 01:46:32Z

Seeking divorce date of George A. FRANK and Elisabeth SURMAN FRANK. Couple had married in Wayne County, Ohio on 25 April 1877. Elisabeth remarried to James BURROWS in Crawford County, Ohio on 8 January 1891. Divorce would have occurred somewhere in between those dates.

Re: Richard Surman will of 1821

surmangen — 2006-06-10 16:31:59Z

My e-mail has changed. It is now surmangen@microlnk.com

Re: Surman of Horspath

MaureenSurman1 — 2006-06-07 20:43:18Z

I forgot to mention that MALLAM is a maiden name. Richard Surman married Eliz. Mallam c.1781 and named a son Henry Mallam who died Horspath in 1855.

Hope you make some progress when you are able to digest the information.

Re: Surman of Horspath

2006-06-07 19:23:43Z

Hi Maureen
Thanks for the info. I have been so busy with everything else the genealogy has taken a back seat. I need to save myself a day next week and try and do some more un-ravelling.
regards
celina

Re: Surman of Horspath

MaureenSurman1 — 2006-06-06 15:11:34Z

Some notes I have:

1). Mallom Surman (Bay Tree Cottage, Horspath)
2). Joseph Surman 1870-1880 (guesswork) Smithwood Common, Cranleigh
3). Children Joseph, who had Derek & Ronnie
Margaret who married Alf Coussall and had Joan
Henry George mar. Dorothy Harvey and had John, Kenneth & Fred
Edith who married ? Denyer and had Phyllis & Lily

Our Chairman (S*rm*n Family History Society) would be able to assist better as he holds the pedigrees.

Regards
Maureen

Surman of Horspath/Rose Cottage

2006-05-23 17:06:44Z

Good morning Celina.
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There are two distinct Surman families in the Horspath/Headington area. And, to the best of my knowledge I do not think that a link has been found between the two. However, a Surman DNA study is being done so something may come up soon.
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There is a Surman newsletter that you can subscribe to and they know the family (families) better than anyone. Look for Maureen Surman's postings here and send her an e-mail.
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As a descendant of two William Surman's I know how frustrating it is to trace a popular given name. I have seen the Rose Cottage address in a William Surman search but am 4,000 miles from England so am little help. But, with so many daughters you will have a tough time finding them.
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I would suggest FreeBMD, which means birth/marriage/death. You can search by town or shire and it will list any one of the three, or all three at once. It's my best suggestion.
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Send me an e-mail if you have more questions.

Surman of Horspath

cee41 — 2006-03-30 21:26:43Z

I have just started tracing mine and my husbands family tree. At present I have only managed to get back as far as my husbands grt grandfather. WilliamJoseph Surman B: 1861 Rose Cottage Horspath D: 1942 Cranleigh, Surrey.
I have been unable to find 'Rose Cottage' or the name of William Josephs parents. William was one of 8 children. ( Bess, Fanny, Mary, Rose, Sarah, James and another brother but we have no name) These names were given to my by my mother-in-law but I have no dates for any except William and james son James(B1894. D14 feb 1916 in Flanders fields France)
William Joseph married Janette surname unknown. They had William Joseph B: 1888
Margaret B:1891.
Henry(jack) B:1894
Edith Mary B:1896
I have searched various census but have hit a brick wall
It looks like grt grt grandfather Surman lived at Rose cottage , Horspath.Oxfordshire.
.His Son & daughter, James & Sarah Lived in ST Pancras in 1881. Between then and 1901 james died and his wife re-married and was living in Cranleigh by 1901.
Any one good at unravelling family history my brain is comletely scrammbled!!
Celina

Re: DNA

MaureenSurman1 — 2005-08-26 20:31:57Z

Quick overview on DNA Project. Those descended from Edward Sermoner who went to Virginia, USA c.1648 share a common ancestor with the Worcestershire (Severn Valley) UK pedigrees. A Thames Valley pedigree descend from another. We need more participants to enlarge our database to determine just how many 'originators' of the surname there were.

SURMAN - NEWCASTLE