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Uriah Swann

fabiusriver — 2012-04-14 20:36:41Z

Looking for names of Uriah Swann's siblings, wife and children, Robertson County, Tennessee. He lived from abt 1775-1846. Any information would be greatly appreciated!

SWANN Claude G 1915 1984

t42Restland — 2012-04-13 21:45:31Z

SWANN Claude G 1915 1984

DaveStrickland photographed this gravestone in the Restland Cemetery, Dallas Co, Texas . Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 226,865 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Dallas), cemetery(Restland user submitted) and Surname.
If you know more about this person please reply here, instead of contacting me because this is most likely "not my family".

Swan/Swann of Maryland

delawarewolves — 2012-04-03 12:22:36Z

I have "Swan" in my family (from Maryland).. sometimes spelled "Swann"...

delawarewolf@roadrunner.com

Re: Sir Francis, Edward, and William Swann

email4caesar — 2012-02-28 03:38:31Z

Larry,

i don't know if we've chatted since I have tried to connect with so many. I am decended from Richard Swan who's father according to the Bio of Georgr Perry Swan was a Charles Swan. I do not believe there in enough substantial evidence making Charles the son of Samuel Jr. I would really like to chat about your lineage and see how we connect. Thanks!
Tim Swann

Re: Cecil Bernard Swann

alwat46 — 2012-02-18 21:20:17Z

Hi,

How nice to hear from you regarding Cecil Bernard Swann.

I am interested in some information regarding Cecil Bernard Swann--especially his marriage. I have two potential marriages for him. Cecil is with a Leona in the 1930 census. In Fern Maria (Fletcher) Swann's 1965 Santa Cruz, CA obit, Cecil is listed as her husband. Do you have any information on these marriages?

You can use my regular email--al59wat@gmail.com

Many thanks,
Alison Watson Ewing

Re: Cecil Bernard Swann

fabiusriver — 2012-02-18 21:06:24Z

Cecil Bernard Swann's grandfather was my ggg-grandfather's younger brother. I have some basic information about C.B. Swann's parents, etc., if you're interested.

Re: looking for lee roy swann sr

rnbillrnbill — 2012-02-14 20:30:57Z

There appears to have been a posting by someone looking for perhaps the same person. Look at the posting by Lee Swann done in 2000 on Rootsweb.

Re: looking for lee roy swann sr

rnbillrnbill — 2012-02-14 20:17:53Z

In order to be able to provide any information you are going to have to provide more information. For example at least the state of death. The birth years and place would be a great help.

I have found a Roy Leon Swann in the WWII Draft cards.

Re: looking for lee roy swann sr

SharonDarwin01 — 2012-02-14 04:48:57Z

My grandfathers name was Roy Lee Swann Jr. He was in the Navy in World War 2. He passed away in August of 1987. My fathers name was Gary Wayne Swann, he passed away in August of 1988.

Re: James Swann, born Ballina, Blackwater, Co Wexford, c 1820

StephenSchollum — 2012-02-09 06:41:45Z

Hi
Thanks for the response.
I have met some of them, when I was at the reunion in 1977.
My enquiry is really aimed at trying to find descendants of any of James' siblings, as he was one of at least 7 children. One, Charles, is believed to have also come out to NZ; another son, John, went to Troy, New York around 1855. In all my years of researching, I have never located any descendant, and thus still look for more information about their family life in Ireland from 1820s-1870s.
Also, if you know any more about any of James's 12 children, please feel free to contact me, as there are some childrens' family members that I still have not located.
Regards
Stephen
email: s.schollum@clear.net.nz

Re: James Swann, born Ballina, Blackwater, Co Wexford, c 1820

pcmclennan — 2012-02-08 10:05:41Z

There are descendants of James Swann still living in the Ruapuke area, which is north of Kawhia and south of raglan.

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

BrianSwann360 — 2012-01-05 22:42:33Z

Thanks very much Rosalyn. Just give me a couple of days and I will come back to you. I have worked on this Swann family, off and on, since 1998 - and although I am following a PDF file given to me by Lena Swann Cusce - I am still finding some Swann lines missing from it. This is no criticism of Lena, who does a very methodical job.

This happens to be one of these lines, as the document mentions the marriage of Joseph Swann, son of Aquilla Swann - but no indication of a second marriage - from which there are large number of Swann descents, as you know only too well.

Are you in touch with a living Swann descendant from Aquilla Swann (1751-1800)?

We will probably need to carry on the exchange by email - as I will need to attach some files. It seems probable now that we can sort through all of the Swann lines which descend from Edward Swan of Maryland once and for all, but these really are quite numerous, as some lines have been particularly prolific.

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

RosalynSumner75 — 2012-01-05 18:46:53Z

Acquilla Swann, b. MD, went to Caswell County, NC, and then to Green County, Ga, where he died in 1800. His son, Joseph B. Swann went to Gasden Co. FL and died in Green County, GA. His son Samuel Arch Swann went from Calhoun County, FL, to Jasper County, TX, after 1850. I have lots of info on this line.

Re: Looking for Swann family from Jasper, TX.

RosalynSumner75 — 2012-01-05 18:25:12Z

I have been researching the Swanns from Jasper County, TX, for over 25 years. However, I do not see how the info you gave fits into what I have. I will be glad to help you if I can. Write me at rdsumner@bellsouth.net

We do have the names Walter and Ernest in the family, but
I cannot find a James for that period of time. Some of this
family went to Washington State. I have this line back to
the Edward Line in MD.

Rosalyn Sumner

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

BrianSwann360 — 2012-01-05 10:43:58Z

Dear Anne

I would be pleased to exchange what information you have on the Swann families in Caswell County. These families presumably come from Thomas Burch Swann (1753-1832). I will only have looked at Census Returns, etc. - not any original research in the USA I'm afraid, but we now have a very good genetic signature for this branch.

Hope to hear from you

Brian

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

AnneEvans23 — 2012-01-05 03:25:15Z

No these were white...but some likely had slaves...in that area. I was working on the Pelham NC Swann folks.

Some in the Pittsylvania Co area too - I think.

I do not know any Yanceyville Swanns....But I saw in 1860 Slave census there were several Swann slave owners
Good luck..
Anne

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

harmony3663 — 2012-01-04 23:32:40Z

I am not familiar with any of the Coleman family. Did they live in Yanceyville? Also, for the sake of clarity, I need to ask if your Swann was of African heritage. The John Swann that in 1910 lived with Benjamin and Alice Poteat (likely former slaves of the Poteat Family of the area), has been listed as "black" and "mulatto".

That is the only Swann I am currently aware of. I have not specifically looked for any so far though. I instead looked at who lived near where he was (on the census page), to get an idea of who might have known whom. I will do some looking though.

Richard :-)

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

BrianSwann360 — 2012-01-04 08:54:42Z

I can probably help sort the answer to this question. There is a Mary Lou Swann (1889-1965) who marries a L. E. Poteat. He dies young in 1913 and she remarries.

She comes from the family of Edward Swan of Maryland, so I think with a bit of mutual exchange of information we can probably sort out who he is. She was born in McDoell County, NC.

Re: Looking for Swann family from Jasper, TX.

AmyLeeParker — 2012-01-04 05:46:04Z

Hello, this is a little late in posting. but I do find all of this interesting and I thought I would post this information. While I don't have any information that will help, I did want to share what I have. I am in Cullman, Alabama and my mother was a Swann. Her Great-Grandfather was James "Jim" Swann. His brother was Henry Swann (not your Henry), his son was named Walter and Walter's son was named Ernest.

Here is where it gets fun and interesting! Granddad Jim was one of about 10 boys and 5 girls. Their mother's (Scott)family moved to Ark and Eastern Tx some time around 1880 or so. One of the sister's also moved out there. So the boys were out in that area alot. Granddad Jim and my grandmother was married around 1900 (my great grandfather was born 1901). But before they married he was engaged to a girl out there, but she died before they could get married. It has always been family lore, that the Swann boys might have had families out there during their "wild days out west".

I just found the names connection interesting!

Re: John Swann

harmony3663 — 2011-12-29 19:56:51Z

The Williamson and Swann links I had referred to were noted in the late 1800's/early 1900's census reports of Yanceyville, Caswell County, NC. In the home of Benjamin Poteat and his wife Alice [Williamson] Poteat, they were almost surely slaves of the prominent Poteat family until emancipation. (If this does not apply to your research, there is little need to read further.) In 1910, 2 young men listed as living in the home of Benjamin and Alice, were John Swann and William Gunn, as "hired hands" (presumably) on their portion of the Poteat tobacco farm. This same John Swann later moved to Tunstall, VA and lived literally next to Swann's, Poteat's and Gunn's. Will Williamson lived with the daughter (Katy) and son in law (Weldon Gunn) of Alice and Benjamin Poteat in Tunstall, VA as well.

Re: John Swann

harmony3663 — 2011-12-07 18:01:29Z

Thank you for your nice reply!

Richard Martin

Re: John Swann

harmony3663 — 2011-12-07 18:00:41Z

John Swann (b. 1889) was living with Benjamin Poteat and his wife, Alice Poteat in Yanceyville, NC. Alice's maiden name was Williamson. Her (Henry Williamson) father lived a few houses away from them on Milton Road.

John Swann was 21 years old when he was living at Benjamin and Alice Poteat's home; working as a (according to the 1910 census for Yanceyville, NC) "hired hand". Also living with Ben and Alice Poteat at the time, was 20 year old Will Williamson, a nephew of Alice [Williamson] Poteat.

My challenge, is to figure out how the Swann family is connected to the Poteat's and Williamson's. A William Gunn also stayed with the Poteat's for a period. (Weldon Gunn later married one of Ben and Alice Poteat's daughters.)

In 1920 Tunstall, Pittsylvania County, VA, there is a John Swann, also mulatto, also born in 1889 in NC, living with now his wife (Lizzie) and family. They are right next to Gunn's, Swann's, his Aunt Thenia(?)[Swann] Johnson, and a Sallie Poteat!

Too much for coincidence.
Richard Martin

Re: John Swann

janspall — 2011-12-07 15:45:54Z

I don't think that my John Swann is connected to yours. I have found no links to Gunn, Williamson or Poteat.

My Swann lived all his life in York, England.

Re: John Swann

janspall — 2011-12-07 15:44:05Z

I have not found any links between Swann & Williamson.

Re: John Swann

maycreekzoo — 2011-12-07 06:03:22Z

What links have you found between Swann and Williamson? I have been looking for such a link but back in the post Revolutionary War days.
Carol

Re: Swann - Caswell County NC

harmony3663 — 2011-12-07 04:41:16Z

Any potential relation to a John Swann, b. 1889, NC, who was living in Yanceyville as a hired hand living with the family of Benjamin (b. 1826) and Alice Poteat (b. 1843) in 1910?

Re: African Americans named Swann from Caswell County NC & Danville, VA

harmony3663 — 2011-12-07 04:06:19Z

I have a complicated mystery trying to place the connection of a John Swann (b. 1889, NC) who lived with another relative in 1910, Benjamin and Alice Poteat in Yanceyville, NC. John Swann was listed as as "hired hand" at age 21 living in the household of the Poteat's. (A William Gunn (age 20) was also living with the Poteats as a "hired hand" in 1910.)

In 1920, a John Swann, also mulatto, also born in NC, and also born in 1889, is living with his Aunt, (unreadable first name, could be "Shenia") Johnson in Tunstall, Pittsylvania County, VA. That's 183 miles or so from Yanceyville, but in the span of 10 years, not inconceivable to travel. In a nutshell, there are Swann's, A Poteat and a Gunn family all living next to each other.

Ben and Alice Poteat's daughter Catherine (Caty) married a Weldon Gunn in 1883 in Yanceyville.

Danville is right across the border from Yanceyville and Milton, and I was recently told that the marriage of my maternal Great Grandfather Andrew Willson Scott to Alice L. Scott (the Granddaughter of Benjamin and Alice Poteat, mentioned above), was a marriage arranged by the families. Andrew was born in Rockbridge County, VA, and I don't know how he ended up in Yanceyville to marry the much younger Alice L. Poteat. From there (1912 Yanceyville), they went to Milton/Semora by 1917, on to Cunningham in Person County, and then to Ohio for some unknown reason.

So, there it is. I am trying to figure out how all these families were connected. If any of this sounds familiar to you, please let me know!! this part of my family is still has many big mysteries for me.

Thanks,
Richard Martin

Re: African Americans named Swann from Caswell County NC & Danville, VA

harmony3663 — 2011-12-07 03:41:55Z

I'd really like to the see the file attachments mentioned in your post...

Thank you,
Richard Martin

Re: John Swann

harmony3663 — 2011-12-07 02:44:37Z

He is too young, but...

There was a John Swann that stayed with part of my Poteat family in Yanceyville, in 1910. He was a farm "hand" on the farm of Benjamin Poteat. I have a John Swann in Pittslvania Co, VA, in 1920, but he was born in 1889 NC, so his not the one you seek. This John Swann was listed as mulatto, and I have not looked for a father for him. He is listed in 1920 as the nephew of the widowed head of house, a Mrs. Johnson. I am finding a link between GUNN, and SWANN, and WILLIAMSON, and POTEAT between NC and VA.

What I am getting at, is that perhaps there is a possibility that this John might be related to "your" John Swann.

With regard to your Freedman reference, all of the above were listed as mulatto or black. Let me know what you think.

Richard Martin

Re: Sarah SWANN of Manchester, Lancashire, England ca 1810

lillyjanemay — 2011-10-16 09:14:07Z

Thank you so much for your very speedy and detailed reply, it is much appreciated.

On first sight it seems that alot of the details I have do fit, some don't.

I am going to go through your reply fully checking against what I have 'pencilled in' and then get back to you.

It may be easier, if you don't mind, to contact me directly on lilliputresearch@btinternet.com.

Back to the digging and thanks again for your help.

Fingers crossed!

Lilly

Re: Sarah SWANN of Manchester, Lancashire, England ca 1810

silver55silver — 2011-10-16 00:55:43Z

Hi Lilly
My Gt Gt Uncle Robert Swann (1784-1862) had a son Robert who was born circa 1827. They both appear on the 1841 Census at Market Street, New Mills, Derbyshire. Gt Gt Uncle Robert was a Chelsea Pensioner so he must have had a long army career. I haven't found his Military record so far but his children were born in the East Indies, Scotland, Ireland & Devonport England (from the '41 '51 & '61 censuses) so I guess he was stationed in all of these places.

I believe that his son Robert Swann (born c 1827) attested on 18 Nov 1846 with the Royal Artillery Regimental No. 2538. He gave his birthplace as New Mills which was where he and his family lived, although he was actually born in Ireland.

He served as a Gunner & Driver for over 21 years (6 of them in Halifax, Nova Scotia) & was discharged on 31 Dec 1867 at Liverpool.

I believe I have him on the 1861 Census at the Royal Artillery barracks in Woolwich, Kent aged 34. He was married to Martha J (born in New Brunswick) and they had a 7 month old son Robert Darius (born Woolwich Q Sep 1860).

After this I lose track of him. He may have died in Q Sep 1879 in Chorlton, Manchester but I can't confirm this.

Do you think this could be the same person as your Robert Swann? If so I'd love to hear from you Lilly.

Best Wishes
Jeannie

Re: Sarah SWANN of Manchester, Lancashire, England ca 1810

lillyjanemay — 2011-10-15 14:19:19Z

Hi,
I am interested in a Robert Swann born New Mills, Derbys. about 1828, his age varies on returns.

He served with the 10th batt. Royal Artilliery and in 1862 I believe married Ellen Maria Radcliffe in Stockport dist.

A son Joseph Swann born the same year in Dover and daughter Ann Jane abt 1868 in Birkenhead dist.

The family appear to be at 7 Windsor Street, Toxteth, Liverpool in 1871c with Robert's occupation as a Porter.

By 1881 they seem to be at 6 Baron Street, West Derby all details are the same apart from Robert now being called 'John Swann'. Dgt. Ann I believe died in abt. 1873. Son Joseph had left home he later married Charlotte Poatt and lived in the Greenwich area.

If anyone else has an interest in this family I would be very pleased to hear from you. Thanks Lilly

Walter Swann of Florida

wndymk4 — 2011-10-09 03:42:38Z

Looking for any information for Walter Swann.
He was married to Gladys Holloway briefly. They had one child, Joyce Swann. They divorced in Hillsborough County, Florida. He remarried and had more children. He may have moved more South Florida. Could have passed away in the 1980's. I would love any information. Thanks in advance.
Wendy

John Swann

janspall — 2011-09-20 12:58:04Z

I have an ancestor who was supposedly a Freeman of York but I cannot find any information about this.

His name was John Swann, born 1801, died 1868. His occupation was butcher. Any information gratefully received.

Re: Swann Va-S C- Bainbridge Ga

SR237 — 2011-09-18 17:48:18Z

Thanks for the tip!

Re: Swann Va-S C- Bainbridge Ga

Mahthellin — 2011-09-18 17:45:40Z

I'm sorry, but the Calmes line is my only connection to the Swann family. So that is the only Huguenot connection that I know about. I did a Google search on "Margaret Dumas Huguenot" and came up with some interesting links. You might take a look at that.

Re: Swann Va-S C- Bainbridge Ga

SR237 — 2011-09-18 17:16:35Z

My grandmother, whose grandmother was a Swann, told my mother that she had a French Huguenot ancestor named Margaret Dumas. I have not been able to verify this. Could you direct me to some information about the Swanns and the Huguenot connection? Thank you very much for any assistance and insight you could provide.

Re: Swann Va-S C- Bainbridge Ga

Mahthellin — 2011-09-18 17:04:31Z

I see that you may have this information already, but my connection is through Harriett(e) Neville Calmes Swann, the sister of my ggg grandfather William B. Calmes (m. Nancy Elizabeth [Betsey] Berry). Many of the lines in the French Huguenot Calmes family have Revolutionary War connections, but none that I know of who immigrated as early as the Swanns may have. If you'd like more Calmes information, I'd be glad to give you what I have.

Re: louvina swann

pswann64 — 2011-09-17 23:14:59Z

Have come across Louvinia Swann many times in my searches for Edward Swann, Carlie Edgar Swann. If your still in need, I would be glad to help you.

Re: Sir Francis, Edward, and William Swann

email4caesar — 2011-09-04 01:30:27Z

Brian,

My email is email4caesar@yahoo.com. I'd love any info you can send me. Thanks!

Civil (?) Marriage c1902 in Prestwich, Lancashire

timmyrimmer — 2011-07-24 12:03:23Z

Looking for the marriage certificate details of Annie PLIMMER to Arthur R. SWANN from March quarter 1902, Prestwich - any help most welcome, thank you!

Re: Swann Family of South East AL and GA

jwyde6 — 2011-07-09 16:06:08Z

The Correct spelling is Gardner.

Re: Swann family of south east AL and GA

jwyde6 — 2011-07-09 16:03:46Z

Good Luck!

Re: Swann Family of South East AL and GA

sdjmmj — 2011-07-09 14:34:50Z

I don't have anyone by those names. Is that all the information you have?

Re: Swann family of south east AL and GA

sdjmmj — 2011-07-09 13:41:19Z

They've been dead for 200 years.

Re: Swann family of south east AL and GA

jwyde6 — 2011-07-08 11:58:32Z

Where is Samuel Swann and Sarah Buchanon living. Also, list their children. I'll see if I have info in my tree.

Re: Swann Family of South East AL and GA

jwyde6 — 2011-07-08 11:55:57Z

Sorry typing error Harriet Calmes-Swann is the correct spelling.

Re: Swann Family of South East AL and GA

BrianSwann360 — 2011-07-08 07:18:22Z

Dear Sam

Well - we are in business. I have John Thompson Swann (1775-1867) and with his family comes his daughter Jane Swann (b 1828). There are always minor but irritating errors in terms of spelling - difficult to tell how much those are transcription errors on Ancestry's part or correspondents' part sometimes. So I have Harriet Calmes and not Harriet Clames and Samuel Gardiner and not Samuel Gardner.

Like you, the major sources have to be Ancestry and general internet sleuthing if you are based in England - but there is a wealth (probably) of Courthouse material in the USA which can be explored and is usually not that well indexed. Of course fires can affect these records through history.

So if you want to send me an email to:

bps@norvic8.force9.co.uk

I can then attach what I have right now. Essentially we have an established DNA signature of William Swan of Swann's Point out to 67 markers and we can extend that to 111 markers if we have to. We are having it Deep Clade tested as far as it is possible to go right now.

I believe I know where William Swan was baptised in Kent in 1587, based on circumstantial evidence. And I am embarking on a long-term project to see if it is possible to trace any of his relatives in that parish of Kent down to the present day. If we could do that - we would get as near absolute proof as is possible of the hypothesis of his origin.

Meanwhile, you might have to settle for becoming a member of the Jamestowne Society, which is what I am working on with another Swann correspondent.

Let me know where you live in America when you reply.

I have done family history since 1967 and was instrumental in getting FTDNA to sponsor the DNA Area at Who Do You Think You Are at London, Olympia, since 2009.

Re: Swann Family of South East AL and GA

jwyde6 — 2011-07-05 09:51:51Z

My 3rd greatgrandparents John Thompson Swann & Harriet Clames-Swann. To Jane Swann-Gardner husband Samuel Gardner
Any information would be appreciated. I have information from search on ancestry and the site find a grave.

Madison Donalson Swann would be my greatgrandmothers nephew I have located census records to prove his family.

Re: Swann Family of South East AL and GA

BrianSwann360 — 2011-07-03 09:00:17Z

Dear Sam

We will need to do a bit more mutual exploring before I can answer your question. What I am saying is that we now have increasingly good data for the descendants of Thomas Swann of Nansemond (1670-1704) down to the early 1800s. That still needs to be refined, but I am working with someone else to try and get him accepted as a member of the Jamestowne Society, and all that this requires in terms of documentary proof.

The names Samuel Swann, Thomas Thompson Swann and Thompson Swann are quite widespread in several branches of this family, and I have not (yet) tried really seriously to determine how many branches of this particular Swann surname clan reach down to the present day.

My message was more targeted at Madison Donaldson Swann post - whom I am pretty sure I could help. If you would like to post more information on what you know about Samuel Swann, where he lived and died and the evidence you have for the dates in your post - we can see if I can help.