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SWINFORD Sylvester Jr - Vietnam Wall section 7E

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2012-05-09 14:40:34Z

SWINFORD Sylvester Jr - Vietnam Wall section 7E

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Looking for Thomas Swinford

shadowraven1964 — 2012-04-01 23:31:30Z

I am looking for an obituary for

Thomas Wayne Swinford
Born April 5, 1954
Died November 5, 1968
Place of Death: Illinois

He was possibly placed in a home or institution for complications from measles or meningitis.

His parents were:

Sherman J. Swinford
Born: Dec. 29, 1926
Died: Dec. 21, 1997
Place of death: Arcola, IL.

He married Mary E. Clough....not sure of the date for that
Born: Nov. 29, 1926
Died: June 1993
Place of death: Sullivan IN.

Re: Looking for info on husbands father

shadowraven1964 — 2012-04-01 23:25:56Z

I tried to find it...maybe I'm doing something wrong. Is there any way you could send a link please? I would really appreciate it. And, by the way, nice to know there's family out there! lol

Looking for info on husbands father

shadowraven1964 — 2012-04-01 23:24:46Z

My husband, John David (Swinford) Robinson was born a Swinford but never knew anything about his father. I've been trying to find out if he had any siblings by his father. (I'm not absolutely positive this is the right Sherman Swinford.)

Sherman J. Swinford
Born: Dec. 29, 1926
Died: Dec. 21, 1997
Place of death: Arcola, IL.

He married Mary E. Clough....not sure of the date for that
Born: Nov. 29, 1926
Died: Jun 1993
Place of death: Sullivan IN.

My husband was adopted in 1964 by:

Joseph T Robinson
Born: April 1, 1923
Died: April 1985
Place of death: Charleston, IL.

Joseph's Wife:

Cynthia M (Warner) Robinson
Born: April 12, 1931
Died: Oct. 1, 2002
Place of Death: Charleston, IL.

If anyone has any information, I would really be greatful if you could contact me.

Re: Looking for info on husbands father

mtnmus — 2012-01-25 02:19:45Z

Google is your friend :) The paper's website is www.herald-review.com. Look for a "contact us" link for email and phone number. They should be able to tell you how to get an archived obit. Your husband's adoption situation is interesting, because I recently discovered a couple of other situations where Swinford children were raised by relatives. Maybe the Robinsons are kin too.

Re: Looking for info on husbands father

mtnmus — 2012-01-25 00:46:35Z

You might inquire at the Decatur Herald-Review newspaper. There is an online index that includes his name in a list of obituaries published on Dec. 22, 1997. Good luck. I am distantly related to this line, but haven't put together the relationships yet. Too many Swinfords in that area!

Re: Matthew Everette Swinford

carolynegould — 2011-10-23 16:53:24Z

Still need approximate date of birth to try to identify. I have more than one Matthew and more than one Everette Swinford.

Re: Matthew Everette Swinford

Nina_Tolliver — 2011-10-13 18:36:47Z

His full name was Matthew Everette Swinford. He was married to my Great Grandmother Nancy Anne Tackett. They were from Hitchins, Kentucky

SWINFORD Ronald D - Vietnam Wall section 7W

t42Vietnam_ParkerCoTX — 2011-05-08 12:08:50Z

SWINFORD Ronald D - Vietnam Wall section 7W

Honor our Veterans. This is one of many photographs of the Vietnam Memorial Wall in Parker Co, TX. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 220,676 photos free at http://teafor2.com where they are listed in order by state(Texas), county(Parker), cemetery(Vietnam) and Surname.

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Re: Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

SMFARR_123 — 2010-10-30 18:55:27Z

I am attaching scans of 3 handwritten family records. Perhaps it will help someone in their research...Would love to have any feedback on the Swinford Line...that seems to be one that there is just a void on.

Thanks!

Re: Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

SMFARR_123 — 2010-10-29 09:52:38Z

I am making a research assumption - because the marriage date places James in Monroe County at that date. When I look at the census - he is the only James Swinford in the County. So, making a hypothesis that it IS him, it forms some guiding assumptions so I can move forward.

I have an old handwritten family tree that annotates the marriage of James to Polly Emily Ann Presley - And it also lists her parents as John Presley and Sarah Yarberry (no dates). There is enough info in the databases to start connecting that line back to S. Carolina. (I offer that in case it helps any...)

The tree offers no more information on James. Thank you so much for sharing an interest here! I would love to learn more about what you might have on the family!

Re: Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

LSWINFORD — 2010-10-28 19:02:20Z

At first I thought the James Swinford you mention in the 1870 US Fed Census was the same James you are researching, but I question this for three reasons:
a) The James in the 1870 Census is only 16,
b) This James is living in another non-Swinford household, working the farm, and there is no spouse listed for this James, and
c) The date of the marriage is 20 JUN 1870, and the date of this Census record is 23 JUN 1870. (This could be a marriage bond date though).

The only information I can really find and verify is the Tennessee marriage record.

Do you have any other information on "your" James Swinford or Polly Ann Presley?

Lee

Re: Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

SMFARR_123 — 2010-10-27 21:57:49Z

This James is the GGG-Grandfather of a friend I am helping out with research. We are looking for any signs of Familial/hereditary disease in this line - particularly anything called a palsy, neuralgia or dystrophy. Do you have anything in Swinford family death certificates that would indicate this type of ailment?

Re: Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

SMFARR_123 — 2010-10-27 21:54:47Z

Hi! James married Polly Ann Presley in Monroe County, so I reviewed the census from that area. There were lots of Presleys, but only one Swinford at that time, and it was James. He was working on a Farm at the age of 16. So, he is abt. 1854. Does that help??

Are you related to the Swinford Clan?

Re: Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

carolynegould — 2010-10-27 19:25:40Z

I am also trying to place this particular James Swinford with the correct parents. Where did you get the year of birth? That may help us both.

Carolyne

Looking for Information on Swinford Family - Particularly James Swinford b. 1854

SMFARR_123 — 2010-10-27 11:51:49Z

Hi! I am hoping someone can help. I am looking for James Swinford born 1854 in Tennessee. He married Polly Ann Presley in 1870 in Monroe County. I would like to find James' parents or any other information that may be of help. We are researching a Familial ALS (lou gehrig's disease) lineage and it has led us to this family. Please post if you know something or somewhere I can search. Thank you!

John Swinford 1847-1897

dan130476 — 2010-07-21 10:28:21Z

Searching for any information or family tree links on John SWINFORD
Born March 1847 Reigate, Surrey
Married December 1881 - Mary Ann Tovey
Death December 1897 (aged 50)

parents - Richard SWINFORD & Jane DAVIS

regards
Dan Swinford

Re: Matthew Everette Swinford

carolynegould — 2010-06-11 19:07:03Z

Nina, I have more than one Matthew on the Swinford lines. Can you give me a date of birth and the names of his parents? Then I may be able to help.

Carolyne

Mary Cooper Swinford

ctango167 — 2010-06-10 12:20:53Z

Searching for info on Alfred M Swinford, married Mary Cooper (born 1908 died 1950)

Re: George W. Sinford

Nina_Tolliver — 2010-06-07 01:11:31Z

Hello I am related to George W. Swinford. His son's name Luther was born March 1884. That is all I have. George W. Swinford was born May 1860 in Kentucky. Marrie about 1883 he passed away September 14, 1930 in Carter County Kentucky. His mother was Sara E. She was born Oct. 1840. His wifes name was Priscilla J. Fraley she was born March 1862. I have 7 children listed that they have and birth dates. Maybe if you can help me out with deceased dates that would be wonderful. Luther was my Great Grandpa's brother. My Great Grandpa was Matthew Everett Swinford. My email is nash1536@yahoo.com Take care and God Bless

Nina Sue Tolliver
Both of my parents are from Kentucky by the way.

Re: Debbie Jackson, researcher of Swinford line

Nina_Tolliver — 2010-06-07 01:02:26Z

Hello my Great Grandfather was Matthew Everette Swinford of Kentucky. I have information on his family and birth dates and deceased dates for you if interested. I can also provided his mother and fathers names. His wife was Nancy Annie Tackett. Thank you and God Bless
Also I believe my Great Great Grandfather was full blooded cherokee.
I can also give u my cell and email address if needed to make it easier.
Nina I have pics i can make copies of and send them if you would like.

Re: Swinford: Emma, Nancy, and Mary

batlady8 — 2010-04-01 02:11:54Z

Thanks Karen. My email is batlady8@sbcglobal.net

Re: Swinford: Emma, Nancy, and Mary

batlady8 — 2010-04-01 02:11:53Z

Thanks Karen. My email is batlady8@sbcglobal.net

Re: Swinford: Emma, Nancy, and Mary

karenkay17 — 2010-03-27 11:43:03Z

Hello, I descend from Mary (Marie) Elizabeth Swinford who married James Edward Woodard. Their daughter Ethle Woodard (Donoghue)was my grandmother. This is great to see your listing I live in Howard county Indiana. Please e-mail me directly and we can exchange info. kkd1224@comcast.net. Karen

Swinford: Emma, Nancy, and Mary

batlady8 — 2010-03-14 18:14:53Z

I am looking for any information on Emma Swinford. She had two sisters: Mary Swinford 1860-1925 who married James Ed Woodard 1858-1929 and Nancy Swinford 1864-1969 who married Ephraim Osborne 1851-1929. She married Ponsler (or Poncely) Orsburn and had one child, Omer Orsburn, my great grandfather. Then I believe she married a Fenn but do not know anything about this marriage. Then she married William (or Bill) Freeman and had a daughter (at least one), Iva Freeman. She lived in/around Tipton and Howard Counties in Indiana. I believe she was originally from the Paris, IL area. I believe she died around 1897. I don't have any birth information or parents names or any other siblings. Any information provided will be SO much appreciated.

Re: Swinford-indian

carolynegould — 2010-03-08 05:06:29Z

I believe I have found the correct family --- and that you and I are cousins. I had part of the names on the wives; but not their surnames.

I have two known children for LeeRoy and "May"--- Opal and Harry. LeeRoy was born 2 March 1899 (according to his draft registration.) He was the son of James Andrew Swinford and his wife Cora.

Here is my data on James:
Date of birth on his WWI draft registration card is 20 Sep 1876." This particular card does not list place of birth. Nearest relative is listed as Cora Swinford. Height is marked both tall and short (sigh), build is stout, eyes grey and hair "browne." Occupation is farmer in Chandler, Lincoln Co., Oklahoma. Card dated 12 Sept. 1918.

Date of death from cemetery records.

1900 Census: McKinnley Twp, Lincoln County, Oklahoma
Swinford, Andrew 23 B. Sept. 1876 Married 2 years. MO TN IN
Cora 22 B. Dec. 1877 Kansas Iowa Iowa
Lee Roy 1 B. Mar. 1899 OK MO Kansas

1907
James Andrew Swinford and family (son of Jonathan)
City or Township: Wolf
County: Seminole
State: Oklahoma
Census Year: 1907
Line: 11

1920 North Seminole, Lincoln County, Oklahoma, enumerated 13 January
Swinford, J.A. 43
Cora 44 kansas
George son 18
Irene daughter 13?
Nellie daughter 11
Ethel daughter 9
Herbert son 7
Ross 3 11/12

1930 Census, Lindsay Township. Garvin County, Oklahoma

Swinford, J.A. head m w 53 Missouri Missouri Missouri
Cora wife f w 51 Kansas Iowa Iowa
Hurb son m w 16 Oklahoma Misouri Kansas
Harvie son m w 8 Oklahoma Missouri Kansas
George son m w 25 Oklahoma Missouri Kansas

Swinford listings at Greenhill Cemetery:
8 12 Swinford Cora Swinford 12-15-1878 1-3-1952
8 12 Swinford James A. Swinford 9-20-1876 6-4-1954
8 11 Swinford Harvey L. Swinford 6-23-1920 7-10-1993
2 1 Swinford George Swinford 10-10-1904 10-25-1962
2 5 Swinford Harvey Lee Swinford 12-12-1920 2-16-1948 Okla. SIC USNR WWII

James Andrew Swinford was the son of my great-grandparents, Jonathan Swinford and Lavina Elizabeth Winders.

You'll find more data on my family tree on Rootsweb:
My Family Tree on Rootsweb
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=carolyneg...

Please feel free to contact me directly via email. I am missing some data on LeeRoy's family.

So glad to find another cousin!

Carolyne

Re: Swinford-indian

sugabeezx2 — 2010-03-07 19:02:53Z

starting with my father:

Bill J Swinford
Harry swinford b. 1919( wife Thelma Keeler b 1922)
LeeRoy Swinford b. 1899 (wife Lillie Mae Simpson b 1898)
Andrew J Swinford b. 1876(wife Cora Campbell b. 1877)

Re: Swinford-indian

carolynegould — 2010-03-07 18:57:51Z

Forgot to add that I have four Swinford males who were married to a woman named Cora. Any data on the males will help isolate possible correct one.

Re: Swinford-indian

carolynegould — 2010-03-07 18:54:34Z

What was the name of the Swinford man who was married to Cora? I have a Swinford-Campbell marriage, but the woman's name is Jesse Pearl Campbell. Do you have an approximate birth and/or death date for the Swinford father?

Swinford is a one-name study for me. Have much detail on most lines.

Swinford-indian

sugabeezx2 — 2010-03-07 07:35:26Z

I found a census record showing Cora Campbell, later Swinford lived on the Osage reservation in 1900. However I cannot find any other documents related anything Indian. I know there is an Indian heritage in the family for a fact because the dentist says my children (and my Swinford father) have a problem with their teeth that is genetic and specific to Native Americans. No other family line is even close to resembling anything Native American. My father does not know his Swinford family as his father died when he was about 3 years old~ I asked my Grandmother and she said she thought Cora or Amanda(??) may have received an Indian pension check???? Info, help, hints anyone please???

SWINFORD Sam and Joan

t42MountOlivet — 2010-02-24 13:03:58Z

SWINFORD Sam and Joan

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SWINFORD Zona J 1903-1991

t42MountOlivet — 2010-02-24 13:03:22Z

SWINFORD Zona J 1903-1991

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Re: Swinford obituary

pandanotoriously — 2009-11-29 17:00:18Z

I see now. Sonia was his second marriage. I forgot about him owning thr rock quarry. No wonder the house had all the amenities in it that it did and does.
I do not know Leah's birth year. I thought maybe some time in the 60's, but maybe it is the 50's or so. All I got was the AZ addy from your post about the obit. Thanks. I will keep trying.

Re: Swinford obituary

1st61 — 2009-11-29 14:37:36Z

I did know there was a brother, I tried to find her after doing research in Ava, IL. I need her birth year or the year she was adopted. I spoke to Sam & Sona friend & went to his rock quarry, took pictures of the house you lived in (I guess). I should have ask more questions about Leah but didn't. If you can give me any leads I will start trying to find Leah. I did speak to Sam's son in Ft Worth where I live,
he did not know Leah do to Sam's marriage to Sona and they adopted Leah. Swinford family, Linda

Re: Swinford obituary

pandanotoriously — 2009-11-29 06:32:49Z

I am not related to this family, but I grew up in the house that Sam built in Ava, IL. I am up late tonight and was wondering if Leah was still living. I am a cousin of her biological brother whom was also adopted.

Angela Olson

Re: Early Vandiver, etc. Marriages, Part 1

carolynegould — 2009-11-03 23:54:09Z

A recent post to the Hall list showed a Vandiver marriage for Eunvio Vandiver and Elizabeth Swinford. My data, and data on the Harrison County, Kentucky, GenWeb site shows the following info and a different first name for the Vandiver in question. I am not on the Hall list, but posted this message to the Hall message board in hopes it is gatewayed to the list.

VANDIVER, Eunom and Elizabeth SWINFORD, bond date: December 14, 1819, married December 2?, 1819.

My main research line on this branch is the Swinford line.

Carolyne

Re: Swinford of Colbert Co., AL and Grayson Co. TX

MaryAshley51 — 2009-08-01 15:03:58Z

All I know about him was that the 1880 census has him as b. TN abt 1854, and both parents born in TN; occupation merchant. Sorry I don't know more.

Re: Swinford of Colbert Co., AL and Grayson Co. TX

LSWINFORD — 2009-08-01 13:30:01Z

Do you know if the father of this W H Swinford was Jackson Swinford (born abt 1819 in South Carolina)?

Swinford of Colbert Co., AL and Grayson Co. TX

MaryAshley51 — 2009-07-28 17:42:36Z

Anyone have any info on the family of W.H. Swinford (b. abt 1854 TN) m. to Sallie Maggie Potts (b. 30 Oct 1850 AL, d. 1 Jan 1894 in Pottsboro, Grayson Co. TX); they had at least one child, Clara Z. Swinford (b. abt 1879 AL). I'd appreciate any leads. I am especially interested in what happened to Clara and if there were any other children. Thanks!
Mary

Re: Debbie Jackson, researcher of Swinford line

bkaren6020 — 2009-05-03 21:24:16Z

Just found this message board. I need information on the Swinford line. My husbands gg-grandfather Moses Baskins married a Charity Swinford. Do you know anything about this family?
Karen Baskins

SWINFORD Edna NEELY 1907 1982

t42OldHall_DenCoTX — 2009-03-05 21:03:40Z

SWINFORD Edna NEELY 1907 1982

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SWINFORD George E and Sally S

t42Moore — 2008-12-04 21:30:02Z

SWINFORD George E and Sally S

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Re: Debbie Jackson, researcher of Swinford line

nancymurphy_57 — 2008-10-28 04:14:53Z

Dear carolynegould,

I saw that you submitted a personal tree to Ancestry which contains:

Name:Vernon Swinford

I am a close friend of his son Michael and his ex-wife Suzanne Johnson, I am currently helping them put together Mike's family tree for him and their two daughters. Let me know what you need on Vernon?
Nancy Murphy

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Re: NEW INFO!

carolynegould — 2008-09-25 15:45:27Z

Jane,

Do you still have that pdf file that Charles Biro Swinford sent to you? My computer crashed and I lost my copy.

Carolyne

Re: info on grandmother

johnnynell — 2008-09-21 16:18:50Z

Thanks Lee

My problem is trying to find Amy Mother and Father. I have tried all the suggestion in these threads but can not get a good match. Do u have any info in that area? I would like to share what I have with u.

Thanks again
Johnny Epperson

Re: info on grandmother

LSWINFORD — 2008-09-21 14:45:42Z

I found Amy Craig, living with her second husband Thomas Craig, living in the same county in Kentucky (Laurel) with various Walden step-children in both the 1920 and 1930 US Federal Census. It was hard to locate the Waldens living in the household in 1920 since the index has them transcribed as "Walken", not Walden.

I wasn't able to find anything referencing what happened to Thomas Walden, but given the timeframe it is possible he died in WWI.

Unfortunately I'm in the process of moving and can't get to my computer right now to provide specifics.

Lee Swinford
Plano, TX

Re: info on grandmother

johnnynell — 2008-09-21 03:36:08Z

Hi Carol

u dont know how much I enjoyed hearing from u and reading ur info on granny. From what I have to go on all u have supplied is accurate. My mother Ruth Thomas Walden ran away from home some where around 1930 and married my father Johnny Dewey Epperson. Mom ran away from home because she did not like her step-dad Thomas Craig. Does this info help u any.. Thanks again

Johnny Epperswson, Jr

Re: info on grandmother

carolynegould — 2008-09-21 01:06:44Z

Based on the information supplied in Carol Frazier's post, the most likely person to be the John Swinford, born circa 1820 and living in Lauren County, Kentucky is John Amos Swinford, the son of Reuben Swinford and Sarah Hughes. This John died in 1913 in Laurel County, Kentucky. He was married to Mary C. Bozeman, also known as Polly. The Bozeman surname is sometimes written as Boseman.

While it is possible that John could have sired Amy at roughly age 61, it is also possible that she is the daughter of one of sons.

He had two sons, one was Reuben Amos Swinford, also known as Rube. He was born 14 May 1850 in Georgia. He died in Rockcastle, Kentucky. The other known son is John R. Swinford, born circa 1852.

The time period of Amy's birth makes her hard to pin down her parents, since she won't show up in any census records until the 1900 census that Carol posted. I do feel sure though that she is either the daughter or granddaughter of John Amos Swinford.

Carolyne

Re: info on grandmother

carolynegould — 2008-09-21 00:52:29Z

Carol Swinford Frazier answered your post via the Swinford mailing list. She forgot to post it to the board. Here it is. I will post additional information separately.

Carolyne

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Source: SWINFORD@rootsweb.com
Subject: Re: [SWINFORD] info on grandmother

Hi,

I found this at Ancestry.com:

Amy Swinford, born July 1881, Rockcastle, KY. One spouse listed,
Thomas Walden, born November, 1878 in TN, died December 12, 1950 in
Laurel, KY. (His parents are also listed; if you would like that
information, I can send that too.)

One child, Ethel May, is listed at this site. She was born in 1904
and died in 2005. There is more information about her, too.

I can not give you the name of the submitter of the above
information, but I can help you contact that person (via Ancestry.com)

I found this in the census records:

In the 1900 census Amy is living with her husband Thomas Walden in
Fariston, Laurel Co. KY. She is listed as being born in KY, with her
father being born in S. C. and her mother in KY. They have been
married zero years, which means they have been married less than one
year. She has had no children at that time. Thomas was born in TN,
and his father in TN and his mother in KY. He is a farmer on rented
land and Amy has no occupation. William and Elizabeth Walden, who
are most likely Thomas's parents (the family tree at Ancestry.com
says they were William and Elizabeth and lived in Fariston for the
1900 census, are on the same census page.)

Amy and Thomas are living in London, Laurel Co., KY, for the 1910
census. Thomas is still a farmer. They have been married for 11
years. This time, Amy's father is listed as born in N. C. Amy has
had five children, four are living: Mattison 9, Ethel M., 5, George,
4, and Steven, 1 and 6/12 . John Swinford is listed next, in a
separate household, born in S. C. age 81, widowed, parents born in S.
C.; his occupation is listed as Grandparent, so I am guessing he is
Amy's fathter. John Swinford has a 13 year old grandson, John
Chasteen, living with him.

There is this information from the Social Security Death Index: Amy
Craig, born 04 Jul 1880, died Jan 1978. Her last residence is listed
as Harlan, Harlan Co., KY. Her social security number was,
402-72-5313, issued in Kentucky.

Thomas Walden was born in TN; died 13 December 1950,Laurel, Kentucky.

I am not very familiar with the Swinfords from North and South
Carolina; perhaps someone else can help you with that.

Carol

Re: info on grandmother

johnnynell — 2008-09-20 20:03:39Z

I dont know a lot about GM. I know when i was a kid she lived in Cawood, Ky. When GD died she moved to Harlan, KY.
Dont know where she was born. I have her birth year as 1881. Found that date in family Bible. However that Bible was destroyer in a flood in Harlan. That is where the two husband names came from. My mother is dead that is my big problem because i believe she was the last of the kids living. Sorry I cant give u more...