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Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

cj1862 — 2012-05-23 21:58:58Z

Grandmother Ida Mae Tipton m. Floyd Glenn Vandeventer, Caddo, Ok; her parents: David H Tipton and Hattie J Ferrall of Coshocton, Oh; son of Sylvester Tipton, who may have died in or as a result of the Civil War Battle of Jackson, and Nancy J Stewart or Steward; he is son of Joseph Tipton and Catherine Norris [any leads on her are welcome]; son of Sylvester Tipton of Baltimore and Mary Boring or Baring; son of Lt. Jonathan Tipton and Eleanor Bryant; son of Thomas Tipton and Sarah Steptoe; son of Col. Jonathan Tipton and Sarah Pearce, with documents and newspaper articles affirming 3 children with Sarah: Thomas, William, and Jonathan.

Re: Tipton names found on list found in bible

genbuggy208 — 2012-05-16 18:10:28Z

No - they are not from Abraham Tipton's Bible. These pages were posted on http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.tipton/1449.3/mb.ashx and were Wallace Tipton and Nannie Sparks of Estill County, KY.

Re: Tipton names found on list found in bible

jotipton1 — 2012-05-16 17:49:05Z

Ron,
While your note about the names in the Bible is now more than a year old, I wondered if this might be Abraham Tipton's Bible, which was donated to the Sullivan County Library? I purchased a copy, but was expecting the handwriting to have been clearer. Did you ever receive the list of names mentioned? I'm still searching for more information about John Green Tipton, and also his parents (Thomas and Amy/Ama) Burke Co, Ga and Dallas Co, AL.
I received a very helpful document from the Selma Library. The document was developed by Ennis and Ema Lee (La) focused on Hiram, another sone of Thomas and Amy/Ama.

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

DaleLaws40 — 2012-05-12 22:04:10Z

I have a copy of Charles D. Tipton's book, he gives a very good description of the known facts of Jonathan, that was born in Jamaica.
Dale

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

jbarhale1 — 2012-05-12 20:21:40Z

In his book, "Tipton, The first Five Generations" Charles Tipton had a writeup on Jonathon, born in Jamaica. It discusses the date of birth. Do you have that book?

Jim Hale

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

suzaq1954 — 2012-05-11 14:04:06Z

In my opinion, it's not credible to "stick" on any idea until proven, and nothing you've mentioned proves he was born in the 1650's, but neither have I seen the documentation you've seen. I have no personal interest in this ancestor.

1) Kingston, if it wasn't called "Kingston" until 1692 proves nothing in favor of a 1650's birth date. Neither does it disprove a 1639 date. Both dates precede the founding of the city, according to common understanding of it's history, and is challenging for one date as the other. Many times boundaries change, for example, you could have an ancestor born in Virginia in 1850, but later he says he was born in West Virginia. Obviously, West Virginia didn't exist until after the Civil War, so that ancestor couldn't have been born "literally" in West Virginia. He was born in what is West Virginia today!

2) Until a more credible birth information is found, your still in the dark about when he was born.

3) You admit in his Maryland records his age varied from record to record. Sometimes this occurred due to social, business, or legal reasons. As for social reasons, often if a man was married to a younger woman, he would reduce his age to be closer to her own, and she would raise her's to be closer to his. The truth about how old he really is comes out at his death from family members who know the truth for he had no reason to lie to them. This information is then confirmed in baptism records or other birth records. This isn't speculation, this is fact; I've found this in cases of research I've done.

4) We still have the speculation of where he was born. Was it pre-Kingston "town" or plantation? Was he born in Great Britain and came with his father to newly conquered Jamaica? Was he born in English Jamaica?

5) When Britain conquered Catholic colonies in the 16 and 1700's, they would force the survivors to sign pledges of loyalty to the Crown (Acadia, i.e.). Also, there was a period of time.......sorry not up on exact dates...when the only marriages that were recognized were those ceremonially conducted by the Church of England. Perhaps Jonathan converted to the Church of England in Jamaica. He was young, British, and in a colony that demanded his loyalty.

6) You may have good reason to believe the accuracy of that birth date; I certainly don't know all the facts, and haven't done any research on it. I just know, for me, I'd want some hard evidence.

Good luck with your research!

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

DaleLaws40 — 2012-05-11 03:24:54Z

The Newspaper article of January 1757 claims that Jonathan was born in Kingston, Jamaica in 1639. The article has to be incorrect as Charles D. Tipton said because Kingston was not founded until 1692, 53 years after his claimed birth
(check history of Kingston and it will confirm this).
From what has been found about Jonathan's religion, he was not Catholic, he attended a Protestant Episcopal Church after he migrated to America.
The book author is not "stuck" on any parents for this Jonathan. He made it clear that there was no proof who his parents could have been and he would not speculate as to who it may have been. Charles said many times that it was all speculation when other people made claims about who Jonathan's parents were. They had no proof.
Charles also made it clear that other documents relating to Jonathan in Maryland showed his birth as being anywhere from 1649 to 1657 and even several years later. These were records that Jonathan was part of and not from someone after he died.
Jonathan's four known children were born from 1693 to 1702.
I will stick with the 1659 birth year because of the reasons I've mentioned above.

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

suzaq1954 — 2012-05-11 02:37:14Z

It's hard to chuck a piece of evidence like that. It would have to be strong evidence otherwise if it were my ancestor.

1) Where he was born could have been inaccurate as much as when he was born, i.e., Born in Great Britain 1739, raised in Kingston before age of majority.

2) On different occasions Catholics from Great Britain went to France and Spain for religious freedom reasons, and to get military support for causes against a protestant England. Could these Tipton's been Catholic 'refugees'?

3) If at all possible, I'd research 1738/1739 in Kingston before I'd eliminate it from reason.

4) Is the author of said book 'stuck' on a certain set of parents? Is it possible that his parents were another set?
I did notice, if these parents are the same I saw elsewhere, that a 1739 birth would have put his father at @ 21 years of age.

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

kjtipton — 2012-05-10 20:17:39Z

You can view the obituary in the Maryland Gazette at the following link:

http://www.msa.md.gov/megafile/msa/speccol/sc4800/sc4872/001...

This Jonathan is my 6th great grandfather.

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

DaleLaws40 — 2012-05-10 18:32:38Z

According to the late Charles D. Tipton's book "TIPTON the First Five American Generations" this Jonathan Tipton was more than likely born around 1659 in Jamaica rather than in 1639 since he was of British descent and Jamaica was under Spanish rule until 1655 when the British conquered the island and took it from Spain. Up until 1650 it was illegal for the English to settle on Jamaica so his parents could not have been living there. Charles Tipton was of the opinion that the 1639 date was a mistake in the transcription of the obituary and that the mistake in the age came about because of that calculation.
I have found over the years that the attention that Charles paid to his research and the accuracy of his records were enough proof to me that what he said was usually accutate.
I tend to believe that This Jonathan was born ca. 1659.
Dale Laws

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

suzaq1954 — 2012-05-10 18:15:47Z

On top of that, reporters have been known to make mistakes. This one, however, doesn't get my "suspicion" meter going. It looks right, at least from a reporting point of view, and seems unlikely that a celebrated and notable age would be inaccurate. As a researcher, I would assume it's true from a searchers point of view unless proven wrong. As a documentor, I would assume it's inconclusive until corroborated with other material. Make sense?

After posting the above in confidence, I looked once again at the obit, and forgot that it could have been a transcription from an earlier news article (published March 10, the title of the section is "January 27...Earlier this month....blah, blah, blah..."

Is the info accurate? It seems credible to me, but I wouldn't stand on it alone; I'd want to find Kingston records from 1738/1739.

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

suzaq1954 — 2012-05-10 17:57:22Z

Do me a favor if you can? Change it to a file that can be attached here, and put it on for me? If you can't do it, don't worry about it. I'll send it to you in a moment. :)

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

Lois_Franceschi — 2012-05-10 17:23:28Z

Obits are not always correct. The info for them comes from family members who are emotionally stressed and can easily give wrong info. I know this for a fact as I did it myself.

Re: Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

mbrow28 — 2012-05-10 17:21:43Z

My email is marsha.brown@gmail.com and a copy of your pdf would be much appreciated. Thank you.

Obituary for Jonathan Tipton of Jamaca died January 1757 in Annapolis

suzaq1954 — 2012-05-10 17:15:34Z

The obit claims he was 118 years old!!! Making his birth 1638/1639, not 1659!!

I am not related to this family, just found the obit while researching another.

I've got the obit on pdf and can't place it here, so if you want it, reply here or private message me or email me.

Re: BOOK: WE TIPTONS AND OUR KIN

DaleLaws40 — 2012-05-08 21:45:01Z

I have noticed that Tipton researchers continue to write in about the "We Tipton's and Our Kin" book because of the old posts by the so-called "Erickson" person in Arizona who obviously has been dishonest in dealing with people who wanted to buy a copy of the Tipton book. I say "so-called
Erickson" because that may not really be her name.
PLEASE DON'T SEND ANY MONEY TO THE ERICKSON WOMAN BECAUSE YOU WON'T GET A BOOK OR YOUR MONEY BACK EITHER!!

The lady that had the Tipton books re-printed in 1998 (she lived in Montana at the time) told me when I talked to her that the family members that held the copyright lived in California and allowed her to re-print only a limited number
of the books. I also think she may have printed the family a few copies for the right to be able to print the books.
Anyway, this lady in Montana apparently got a special deal on the cost of printing because she sold them at a really good price ($56.00) and the printer did a fabulous job on the books. I don't know how she was able to locate the part of the Tipton family that owned the copyright but I imagine it could have been Ervin Charles Tipton's children or grandchildren.
I don't know much about copyright laws but I think there is a time limit on them unless someone applies to have them extended. I have no idea what the time limit is.
I hope at some point in time that a honest person actually gets the right to have the book re-printed so researchers of the Tipton family can get copies of it.

Re: BOOK: WE TIPTONS AND OUR KIN

Lois_Franceschi — 2012-05-08 03:10:17Z

Do not...repeat...do not...sned money to this person. You will never receive your book and you will be out your money.

Re: BOOK: WE TIPTONS AND OUR KIN

1p1972 — 2012-05-08 03:00:48Z

I too am interested in obtaining a copy of this book. Does anyone know anything regarding it's availability at this time?

Mary Tipton from KY, looking for her Parents, born abt 1822

msgizru — 2012-04-04 00:41:38Z

I'm looking for the parents of Mary Tipton, born about 1822, who married GGGrandfather Daniel McMullen. I've looked everywhere but can't find a thing on her parents.

Re: Tipton names found on list found in bible

erwinwarrior — 2012-03-10 15:00:20Z

Turns out my husbands great grandmother was Nancy Ellen Tipton, and Tipton was her maiden name, so it's a different person.

She was the daughter of Caswell C. Tipton and Millicent Lowery. We think she was married to someone with the last name Camp prior to her marriage to Jonathan Roach. She was Jonathan's 4th wife of five. Their daughter together was Lillie Mae Roach (who later married a McGee, then married Henry Pierce Garvin which is where my husband's line comes from).

Re: Tipton names found on list found in bible

lpct26 — 2012-03-10 07:57:06Z

My Great, Grandmother was Nancy A. Tipton married to Aaron Jefferson Tipton. I would like any information possible.

Lois Pearl Costello Tucker
(Aaron Tipton's daughter was Carrie Lula Jewell Tipton Davis)
Lula's daughter was Georgia Pearl Tipton Costello.

lpt1@seidata.cm

Re: New Tipton Websites and Blog

lpct26 — 2012-03-10 07:39:58Z

Hi, My Grandfather is Aaron Jefferson Tipton who was married to Carrie Lula Jewell Tipton Davis. Your dates of their births & death vary from mine. Grandpa Tipton was born Aug 28, 1980 (1879 I am sure)& died January 21, 1925. Grandma Davis was born June 24, 1981 & died Sept 20, 1960. Not sure when they were married. My Grandma was called by many names: Lula Fairy Tipton, Lula Carrie Tipton, Lula Belle Tipton. I just noticed that her name could be mistaken for Annie on the 1910 Census but looking closely one can see it is Carrie L.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

cmputman55 — 2012-03-07 00:11:33Z

No, I don't have those names.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

barbara_bast — 2012-03-06 01:34:48Z

Jack, I too claim Jacob as the son of Maj. and Keziah...do you have anything other than Charles' book to show that he is their son? my line is from Charles Sevier son of Jacob

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

p_young22 — 2012-03-06 01:21:47Z

Do you have Cesley (Bryant) O'Brient Tipton as Hiram's father? His mother was Louiza Patrick. I haven't been able to find Cesley's parents. I know that he lived in Overton, Jackson and Clay County in TN. He is buried somewhere in Westmoreland TN. I have been trying to connect with other branches of the Tipton's but haven't been able to. If you can share with me any information on the Tiptons that I am looking for you can email me at p_young22@msn.com if you would prefer. Thanks for sharing

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

cmputman55 — 2012-03-05 15:58:31Z

Yes, it may be.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

p_young22 — 2012-03-05 12:37:11Z

My Grandfather was Samuel Tipton son of Hiram A. Tipton(Great Grandfather). Could this be your GGGrandfather as well? Hiram was the son of Cisley (Sisley, Celsey Bryant) O'Brien Tipton.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

kysquire1 — 2012-03-05 03:50:50Z

Thanks that is where I had read it also I have that book. Shame we can't find something

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

barbarabast71 — 2012-03-05 02:19:15Z

The information is from p. 485 of Charles D. Tiptons book the First Five Generations:Tipton...Washington Co. TN 1783 and 1784 court records State vs. Jonathan Tipton, charged with adultry; jury finds not guilty

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

AnnTClemment — 2012-03-04 22:36:03Z

Yes, they are splendid!!! I thought I had replied, sorry.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

AnnTClemment — 2012-03-04 22:34:27Z

Kennedy is the middle name of Thomas Kennedy Tipton, I just saw it on a photograph I got from a far off cousin. Here's the pic... Hope it helps somewhat. They are all sons of George Washington Tipton, b.1860/1859 in Tennessee. I give the birth date because there are at least two people with the same name. Good luck!

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

p_young22 — 2012-03-04 18:29:35Z

Did you get the pictures that I sent via your email address?

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

AnnTClemment — 2012-03-04 18:04:55Z

You can ask my father anything you'd like, he remembers everything just fine as long as it wasn't five minutes ago....:) Very sharp still. He'd probably love to trade data with you. I am going to try now to get to the tree. Thank you so much!!!!

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

p_young22 — 2012-03-04 04:43:10Z

Can you get to my family tree on Ancestry? Let me know if you can't and i will invite you so you can pull any information or pictures that you would like.
It is great that you still ahve your father. Is he able to tell you stories about what his family was like growing up and family members that he remembers.
Both of my parents are gone now and I wish I had of gotten into the genealogy along time ago. It is hard when you don't have anyone to ask questions to.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

kysquire1 — 2012-03-04 01:34:54Z

Do you have a copy of that document? If so I would
Iove to have a copy.

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

kysquire1 — 2012-03-04 01:34:14Z

Do you have a copy of that document? If so I would
I've to have a copy

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

barbara_bast — 2012-03-04 00:20:00Z

Does anyone know of a document that will prove Keziah Sevier Robetson and Maj. Jonathan had children ? I know of the document for adultry filed by Frances Daughtery the first wife, but what else can we use?

Re: Tipton in Eastern Kentucky

kysquire1 — 2012-03-02 15:20:58Z

Am a little slow at times ..lol I found it after I emailed sorry ...I have Tipton info also if you have anything you want or need

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

AnnTClemment — 2012-03-02 03:38:49Z

That's awesome! My father is 81 (Donald Darrell Tipton, son of James Travis Tipton, George's son) and I am looking it up for him. Do you have the pix scanned in, and would you be willing to email them to me? I will share anything I find with you. If you are willing, my email is: atc.asdf@gmail.com, and thank you for your time!

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

p_young22 — 2012-03-02 02:00:28Z

I have some information and pictures of George Washington and his children and one of Cisley and Louiza. I can't find anything on Cesley (Bryant) I found that George's sister (Susan) was buried in New Hope Cemetery in Westmoreland TN through her death certificate. I visited the cemetery and couldn't find her at all. Cisley is supposed to be buried in Westmoreland, so I was also hoping to find his grave site too, but that didn't happen. Cisley is my brickwall that I can't break through. I would love to find a connection with our line and be able to trace back at least one or two generations. Hopefully that will happen..If you need any inforation on the side of Hiram A Tipton, let me know. He was my Great Great Great Grandfather...

Re: Tipton in Eastern Kentucky

randyturner9028 — 2012-03-02 00:52:23Z

There are two photo attachments within this thread. If you can not find them, just let me know and I will email them to you.

Re: Tipton in Eastern Kentucky

kysquire1 — 2012-03-02 00:45:54Z

I am really interested . Would love to see some of it ...most of the tiptons I am from are from around that area
Thanks so much jean Ann Tipton Powell

Re: Tipton in Eastern Kentucky

kysquire1 — 2012-03-02 00:45:53Z

I am really interested . Would love to see some of it ...most of the tiptons I am from are from around that area
Thanks so much jean Ann Tipton Powell

Re: Direct descendant of Major Jonathan Tipton III here. Anyone else?

kysquire1 — 2012-03-02 00:44:25Z

I am a direct descendant of the major

Re: TIPTON,Cesley

AnnTClemment — 2012-03-01 16:22:13Z

Hiram, your Great-Grandfather, was my Great-Great-Grandfather, George's brother. I have data on his descendants if you want it...email me at your convenience if you do!

Re: Cisley O'Brient Tipton

AnnTClemment — 2012-03-01 16:12:41Z

This person is my Great-Great-Grandfather. Please feel free to contact me via my email. I have some data but not much, can give you data on his son George W., Grandson James Travis, Great-Grandsons Donald and Bob, and Great-Great-Grandchildren Ann, Laurie and James.

James Maxwell Tipton

watersjm — 2012-02-05 19:51:35Z

I am trying to find information regarding my biological father's family. All that I know is his name is James Maxwell Tipton, born 08/15/1956. He married Teresa Elaine Barthle sometime around 1976. From what I am told, his family is from the Piedmont, South Carolina area. He has at least two brothers David and Timothy (Tim). The last place that I know James Maxwell Tipton lived was in Ocala, FL.

If anyone has any information they think would be helpful please let me know.

Margaret Tipton Weber 1921-2012 b. Bellaire, Ohio

Lace_Lynch — 2012-02-02 14:11:28Z

NEWARK: A funeral service for Margaret Lucille Weber, 91 of Heath was held 1:00 p.m. Tuesday, January 31, 2012 in the Newark Chapel of Vensil & Chute Funeral Home. Burial followed in Wilson Cemetery.

Mrs. Weber died Friday morning, January 27, 2012 at Newark Healthcare Centre.

She was born January 27, 1921 in Bellaire, Ohio, (Belmont County) to the late Lewis and Edna (Jones) Tipton.
A 1937 graduate of Newark High School, she also attended the Newark College of Commerce Business School and was a 1939 graduate from the Lillian Johnson Beauty School for cosmetology in Columbus.
She was an active member of the First Baptist Church of Newark and the Garden Club of Alexandria.
Mrs. Weber had worked at the Heisey Glass Museum and Denison University. She enjoyed playing the piano and was an avid reader.

Survivors include her husband of 70 years, Lawrence S. Weber, who she married August 14, 1941; a daughter, Diana (Paul "Dobie") Simpson of Lake Forest, IL; a son, Larry (Cheri) Weber of Newark; six grandchildren; and nine great-grandchildren.

In addition to her parents; Mrs. Weber was preceded in death by an infant son, Neal Evan; her brother, Leonard Tipton and his wife, Frances Tipton.

Friends and family were received two hours prior to the funeral service from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. on Tuesday at VENSIL & CHUTE FUNERAL HOME, 1850 W. Main St., Newark.

Memorial contributions may be made to Dawes Arboretum, Licking Co. Aging Program, or the Alzheimer's Association .

www.vocfh.com

Re: Looking for Tiptons from Mississippi

gettinotuit — 2012-01-27 07:52:28Z

Hi, I am looking for info regarding Shadric Tipton b:abt 1831. He is my great great grandfather. My family is Shadric Tipton>George Washington Tipton>Jesse Washington Tipton. I would love to find any info regarding Shadric's parents and siblings. Thanks!

Cesley O'Brient (Bryant) Tipton

p_young22 — 2012-01-20 03:21:43Z

I am hoping someone has additional information on my GGGrandfather Cesley Tipton. He was born in 1828 and died in 1898. He lived in Sumner County TN and is supposed to be buried in Westmoreland TN according to family records. I cannot find anything on him at all and have been searching for years. He married Louiza Patrick and one of their sons was Hiram Alphonzo Tipton, my GGgrandfather. Cisley lived in Jackson, Overton and Clay counties in TN. Any help in this search would be appreciated.