Truman - Family History & Genealogy Message Board

Robert E. Truman of Munnsville, NY 1944

drbrownlee — 2012-04-23 03:10:36Z

Robert is pictured in the 44-A class yearbook of Curtis Field, in Brady, Texas. He is an aviation cadet. I'm not kin but thought this might help someone researching the family.

Re: Ethel Helen Truman b 19 Apr 1894

pathdenver — 2012-03-14 23:49:11Z

There's a Texas death record on FamilySearch.org

Ethel Helen Krug
d. Amarillo
bl 19 Apr 1894 Sidell, IL
Father Emanuel Saults
Mother Sarah Cecelia Hill

1900 Oakwood, IL
Manuel Saults 53 OH
Celia 44 OH
Pearle 15 IL
Ethel G. Saults IL

1910 Vermilion Co
Ray B. Truman 25 IL
Ethel 17 IL (married only 4 months)

Hope this is helpful.

Re: TRUMAN ( HARRY ) CONNECTION

Delanyknockacoller — 2012-02-01 08:00:22Z

I know 11 years have gone by since your post but I have just read your query and I have a lot of info on Truman family though knew nothing of family splitt or relationship to the late president Truman. My gtgt grandfather was Thomas Truman son of James and Mary Matterface and brother of Charles James Stephen and William. Thomas was a Tailor on the Strand, Dawlish. Born 1796 married Mary Ann Rogers 1828 died 1880.
Their children were George, John Cole, MaryAnn, Eliza, Henry Thomas and Jane. Thomas and Henry emigrated to Australia in the 1850s but then moved to New Zealand. Thomas married and lived in Wellington NZ and had 11 children, Harry moved back to Australia and married and his family live on there. I am descended from Thomas and the NZ arm.

Ethel Helen Truman b 19 Apr 1894

juliekempf1 — 2011-12-29 05:06:51Z

I don't know where she was born or where her people were from. I can't seem to find anything about her. What I do know is Ethel married Ray H. Payne(my ggrandfather)1920 in Marion County Indiana. They had two children: Eugene Lavasa Payne and Betty Gene about ten years apart. At some point they divorced or separated and later she remarried James E. Krug. She died 24 Aug. 1963 in Amarillo, Texas. Can anyone help me break through this wall?
Julie

Re: Truman - WV

FTruman23 — 2011-10-08 05:06:37Z

Hi Angie!! My name is Fallon. I'm Denver's granddaughter!! I don't think I ever got to meet grandpa Creed, but I'm trying to go back further than him n grammy Daisy. I don't know any of their parents names. Do you?

Charles Truman

grobb1066 — 2011-09-11 15:02:11Z

I have an Annie MacFarlane born 15/06/1869 in Kirkintilloch Dumbartonshire, Scotland. Annie travelled to the U.S.A. with her mother and siblings. This is recorded on British Ships Manifest as following.
British Crown Ships Manifest Departure Liverpool England arrived Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on 19th May 1882. Annie married a Charles Truman/Trueman in Washington County Pennsylvannia on 15/12/1885. On their marriage application it states Charles fathers name as George and residing in England. They had 3 daughters Maggie MacFarlane Truman c1886 born possibly in Ohio. Maud Truman c 1889 also Ohio and Rebecca Jane Truman c1889.
After this I have no idea as to what happened to Charles Truman, as Annie remarried a George Lucy in Brownsville Pennsylvania on 03/02/1892. Annie, George and her 3 daughters all returned to Scotland shorly after their marriage. If anyone can tell me anything about Charles Trueman it would be greatly appreciated. You can email me directly at grobb1066@yahoo.co.uk

Re: Native American Heratige

gigi2twoangels — 2011-05-01 02:23:52Z

the native american was cherokee and way back a cheif cornstalk fought the battle and won regarding the ohio river, not sure where the native came in but my father and grandmother told me the story several times, when i started this i thought trumnan was a rare name, i am finding out this is so not true! lol its all very interesting though. god bless
rebecca truman-stevenson
gigi2twoangels@hotmail.com

TRUMANS

gigi2twoangels — 2011-04-28 12:26:54Z

DIDNT KNOW THERE ARE SO MANY, MY DAD WESLEY WAS IN WISCOUNSIN BEFORE COMING TO OKLAHOMA, AND THE REST FOLLOWED LOL, THE WESLEY NAME HAS BEEN HANDED DOWN 3 TIMES (JOHN WESLEY) HE WAS ALVA AND LURA S SON. ALVA OTTMAN TRUMAN WAS MY GRANDFATHER ANY TRUMANS IN CYBER E MAIL ME GIGI2TWOANGELS@HOTMAIL.COM

Re: Truman

gigi2twoangels — 2011-04-28 10:12:49Z

i am told that our family migrated from england, i dont have any info on it but i did post what i do have
rebecca truman
gigi2twoangels@hotmail.com
would be able to ask my dad he is the only child alive from alva ottman truman

trumans looking for family this is all i have on trumans

gigi2twoangels — 2011-04-28 10:06:07Z

here is what i have so far:john wesley truman 1850 son of john and sarah runnion truman. john married ora belle howery in 1882 kanawha co. wva they had 11 children:
lorenzo dow, anna ethel, roma ernest, bertha, walter townsend, john lawrence, alva ottman, goldie, ira albert, cora sylvania, kate. they moved to clay co. wva in 1900.
alva ottman (alvi) is daddy's father. your dads grandfather. here are the names of their kids i have so far, and who they married:renseys kids; edgar, russell, ( had girls but do not have their names. lawrences kids; archie, emerson, dela, opal, mickey.
alva's kids; calvin ronald, dora belle, william ludell, wesley max.
walters kids; delbert, lonnie.
ernests kids; spurgdon, hazel, frieda,macel, ruea, reva, doris.
iras kids; sammie, boots, willard, mimferd, vanillena belle, john ari.
kates kids; alfred, annie, bertie belle, esa lee. it is scarce on d.o.b, d.o.d, and marriages. however i do have this much-
roma ernest married daisy mae dillard, he died 6-6-47, was born 6-30-1889.he is buried in an unmarked grave in the vaughn cemetary, nicholas co. wva
john wesley truman married sarah ann (nancy)
runnion, died 1920's clay co. wva
john wesley truman, son of john and sarah born app. march 1950 married ora belle howery 10-29-1882 kanawha co. wva she was born 12-9-67 died early 1940's, this is our great grandparents.
lorenzo dow married bessie taylor
ann ethel died young
bertha married homer mullins
walter townsend married lona dillard
john lawrence married beatrice morton
alva ottman married lura backus
goldie married 1) morris 2) mullins 3) butcher, do not have their 1st names.
ira albert married velma darlington
cora sylvania married b.l. hamrick
kate married 1)dillard 2) wyatt

i dont know how accurate this is, i got most from my uncle calvin before he died last year, his mom was lura murl backus truman-my grandfather was alva ottman truman there was so much lost but if any of this ings a bell please email me at gigi2twoangels@hotmail.com, i only have 13 days on this trial left i do know the trumans split and heard some stories, also after my parents and other family moved to oklahoma, there was a baby girl born in lawton oklahoma i think 77 or 79, never seen or heard from after birth
god bless! rebecca truman, daughter of wesley m truman

Re: Truman

alberta24 — 2011-04-06 06:46:22Z

William Nottingham married Sarah Marchall in 1893 she
was the daughter of James and Susan all of these born in Bedfordshire.

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-04-05 21:39:49Z

Oh o.k. good. I am pleased to find out she was 23 when she had Mabel rather than 13. So then that would change her estimated birth year to 1871? That will help me narrow down her place of birth and perhaps her maiden name.

My mother claimed her mothers side of the family was from portugal, and now that I know it wasn't Mabel that was born there, maybe I can determine if Sarah was from there originally or if anyone in our tree was.

Thank you for all of your research.

Re: Truman

alberta24 — 2011-04-05 21:25:31Z

Are you looking at the transcript because it does say 20 but if you look at the original handwritten copy taken by the enumerator on the day it is obvious that it is 30.
There is a slight mark on it which may have confused whoever did the transcript but the first number 3 when viewed against Williams 31 is identical.
These errors often occur when original documents are transcribed.

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-04-05 19:12:27Z

Hi, I'm confused. When I look up this 1901 census it says that Sarah is 20, not 30 as your email suggests. Her estimated birth year 1881. It shows William as her spouse, her daughter Mabel, and the other children. Mabel was 7 in 1901 and the daughter of Sarah, who was born in 1881. Sarah was only 13 years old when she gave birth to her?

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-04-05 18:02:59Z

Thank you. I am 90% confident that this is indeed my grand father. Is there any way of knowing what became of Doris? Also is there any way to find out Eleanor's cause of death at age 50 and why they would not have married?

Re: Truman

alberta24 — 2011-04-05 16:09:42Z

John E Bramley b. Stathern/Melton Mowbray is on the 1901 census as the head,married age 24
he has a housekeeper Eleanor Brutnall age 26,she is status unmarried.

I believe they lived as man and wfe because on the 1911.she is Eleanor Betsy Bramley but when she died in 1924 she was Eleanor Betsy Brutnall born 1874 Melton Mowbray.
the name is sometimes spelt Brutnell.
There may have been children,I do not have access to full 1911 census,there is also a Doris Bramley born 1917 Melton Mowbray mothers name Brutnell.

Re: Truman

alberta24 — 2011-04-05 13:20:14Z

Sorry my 2 posts above are in the incorrect place.
Senior moment.

Re: Truman

alberta24 — 2011-04-05 11:48:34Z

1901 Northill Bedford.

William Nottingham age 31 Market Gardener,wife Sarah age 30
with children Mabel J age 7,Charles W age 5,Alfred W age 3 and Harry B age 11 months the whole family born Northill.

Re: Truman

alberta24 — 2011-04-05 11:42:58Z

John E Bramley died in 1946 age 69.Melton MowbrayThere is birth of John Edward Bramley Melron M. 1876.

The death entry for Mabel Jane Bramley in 1973 Melton Mowbray has her birthdate as 1894,11th February,

Birth if Mabel Jane Nottingham registered Jan/Feb/Mar 1894
Biggleswade, Bedfordshire.

Re: Truman

Sumi48 — 2011-04-02 08:52:08Z

The address where your mother grew up would be post 1939 so not much in the way of records online. We can't view census less than 100 years old and even if we could, there wasn't one in 1941 because of the war. You could post a new message looking for an Electoral Roll lookup but that would only give you the names of eligible voters at the address.

Sue

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-04-01 18:36:58Z

Sue, If I have the address of the property my mom grew up in would that give us any record or proof of anything?

Re: Truman

mamiller179 — 2011-04-01 17:44:46Z

Oops! certainly didn't do my sums re Mabel's 1915 birth and John's in 1925!

So....you need to get a copy of your grandparents marriage certificate for her father's name and occupation.

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-04-01 17:38:57Z

I do recall there being 'Day' surname in the family, so I bet this is my great grandmother and great grandfather. Thank you!

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-04-01 17:30:48Z

Thank you very much. I have found record of my mother's birth in Oct 1939. Mabel Nottingham (nee Wood) would not be her mother because that would make Mabel 10 years old when she gave birth to John. The records that you found for John (b1925) and Tom (b 1931) I'm sure are correct because I know they were several years older then my mom. I think Mabel may have been born in Portugal or Brazil. I think my great grandmother was from there and then she may have married an englishman and given birth to Mabel outside out England and eventually Mabel came to England where she married and had John, Tom, and Rhona. My mom never spoke of her father other then he died when she was quite young and that he was abusive. When I found records of Mabel and John having been married in 1937 it made me wonder if my mom's older brothers, both under the name Bramley, were half brothers because they were born years before the marriage of John Bramley Sr. and Mabel Nottingham.

Re: Truman

Sumi48 — 2011-04-01 14:25:28Z

Re Mabel BRAMLEY nee NOTTINGHAM.....i can't see your mother's birth on Freebmd (it's a free site and volunteers are still working on the 20thC) but I can see what looks like her brothers John E 1925 and Thomas M1931.

BUT, the marriage of Mabel J NOTTINGJAM to John E BRAMLEY was registered at Melton M in March quarter 1937 volume 7a page 695. You say he died when your mum was young....maybe he was much older than Mabel and already married and only married her when he was free?? That's why certificates are so necessary.

I can see a birth of a Mabel NOTTINGHAM registered in Chesterfield, Derbyshire in Dec quarter 1915 mother's maiden name WOOD. In June quarter 1915 marriage registered in Chesterfield of Frederick NOTTINGHAM to Edith M WOOD.

Just some possibilities to think about but suggest you confirm each generation before you look for the next.

Sue

Re: Truman

Sumi48 — 2011-04-01 13:29:47Z

I searched the 1911 free index for Freda N TRUMAN residential place Basford. Then returned to the Full person search screen and deleted her christian name and added it to the box Other members of the household which brings up all TRUMANS living with Freda N. Frederick TRUMAN born 1871 and Emma Elizabeth born 1878.

Then search Freebmd and the marriage of Frederick TRUMAN to Emma Elizabeth DAY comes up, registered Basford March quarter 1899 volume 7b page 257. You can order a copy from http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

PS If you get a copy of your parents marriag certificate you will have their fathers' names and occupations and witness names. You must get certificates to be sure you are on the right track, especially if you are unsure about recent ancestors. It's also very exciting to receive a certificate with lots of lovely new information.

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-03-31 18:15:33Z

I did not have this information. Thank you very much!

Re: Truman

NORMANLLOYD99 — 2011-03-31 17:02:22Z

hELLO AGAIN. I have found deaths for John E Bramley,
1) 1950 in Ilkeston, Derbyshire
2) 1946 in Melton Mowbray, Leicestershire
I suspect that you already have these?

Re: Truman

shurt103 — 2011-03-30 00:20:22Z

Thank you so much! I did know that she was born in 1905 but beyond that I was stuck. I will research further with the information you have given me.

As for my maternal grand mother, Mabel Bramley, I am trying to find out for sure who her parents were as well. Her maiden name was Nottingham, and I think maybe her parents were either Stanley and Lucy Nottingham or James and Elosia Nottinham. My mother, her daughter, Rhona Hurt (Bramley) had said once that her mothers side of the family came from South America, and I see that James and Elosia did live in Brazil and had a daughter named Mabel. Although I see a record of Stanley and Lucy having had several children, I can not find a record of them having a daughter named Mabel. My maternal grand father is a mystery, he died when my mother was very young. I think his name was John. My mother had two older brothers as well, John Bramley (decesaed) and Tom Bramley of Melton Mobray. My dad claims that the family sold an apple orchard and the only thing still attaching them to it, is the name Bramley.

On my fathers side, the Hurt's, he claims his ancestors are the Hurt family of Alderwasley. I don't see how to access birth certificate information or baptism records. I have only seen travel documents. I do have a membership but if not able to figure it out I may cancel and spend the money on hiring a professional. I'm not sure how to go about that either.

I have been watching NBC's 'Who Do You Think You Are' and it has influenced my desire to find out how far into my ancestry I can go. My dad is still alive and I would like to do it for him as well. I wish I was a celebrity, then I could do it for free...haha.

Re: Truman

NORMANLLOYD99 — 2011-03-29 14:44:25Z

Hello again. I have rechecked the 1911 census site and it appears that Freda is in Basford in Nottingham. It requires a subscription to access the actual transcript but if you utilise the free trial offer you may find all your questions answered. Do lket me know. (I have had my free trial recently so am unable to do it for you). Ps. I also have a Mabel in my tree. She was married to my uncle Fred in Nottingham.

Freda Truman

NORMANLLOYD99 — 2011-03-29 14:08:27Z

Hi there, I think Freda was born Freda Nellie Truman in Basford, Derbyshire, England. The birth was registered in Oct 1905.(Basford 7b 187) should you wish to investigate further for the names of the parents. She does not appear in the 1911 census however so perhaps she emigrated? Do let me know if this helps in any way as my mother's family are Trumans from that part of the world. Kindest regards,

Truman

shurt103 — 2011-03-27 08:37:22Z

Trying to find out who my great grandfather was. My grandmother, his daughter, is Freda N. Truman born in 1905 in England.

Re: truman's

rcunderdog — 2011-03-14 12:41:13Z

My biological father's name is Carl, Truman. His father, Marion T. Truman, had several siblings. They were Emma R. Truman, George T. Truman, George W. Truman, Dale F. Truman, and Iva J. Truman. Doesn't look like it's a match, though that's just going back a couple generations. My side of the Truman family grew up in South Dakota. Although several relatives have stayed in south western SD, several have moved to other parts of the country.

Let me know if that is of any help.

In Christ,

Ray C. Underwood (Truman/Zeeb by birth)

Re: truman's

HINDS77 — 2011-03-13 01:19:07Z

My name is Mandy Hinds (Truman) and my great gandfather is Lorenzo Truman, who had my grandfather Delford J Truman,and Delford Truman had Bruce Wayne Truman, Gayle Truman, Lonie Truman,Victor Lance Truman (Pete) and possibley two other children that I'm not aquainted with. I am trying to find out about my family on the Truman side,with great difficulty, since my grandfather passed away in 2002, and I only have contact with a few relatives in Truman family. I would love to ask distant realatives questions and give any answers that I may have. I live in Washington State, along with most of Delford Trumans children.

James W. Truman

2011-02-15 23:10:08Z

Hello John,
I am excited to learn if you have any information on
James W. Truman. I can not find any information on who
his parents were. Any information you could provide would
be great.

Thank You
Chris

James W. Truman

2011-02-15 23:09:54Z

Hello John,
This is really great. Your mother and my grandfather are mostlikely first cousinds.
He is a grandson of James W. Truman as well. My mother ( who is the one who is doing the research)
has some question she wanted to ask you if you could would you please send me your email address so she
can contact you.
We have found some interesting things on James that you may interested in, like that it is very likely that he was not a
Truman at all but a Brannon. We have developed a pretty stable theory and are now in the process of proving or disproving it.

Thank You for your time.
Chris

James W. Truman

2011-02-15 23:09:03Z

Heloo John,
I am sorry but the James W. Truman I am looking for was born in 1838.
Thank you for your reply to my posting.

Chris

Parents: James W. Truman

2011-02-15 23:08:44Z

Hello,
I am looking for the parents of James W. Truman my Great
Grandfather he was born in 1838. Where I do not know
( Possibly VA ) He was adopted by the Brannon family in Southern Ohio.

Any Information would be greatly appreciated.

Truman in Shotwick Cheshire England 1770's

angelaclaydon — 2011-01-25 20:27:31Z

I am looking for the origin of the Trumans in Shotwick. George Truman (sometimes spelt Trueman) was born about 1750 but I can't find where! It wasn't Shotwick, He also probably had a brother called Job. George married Sarah Lewis in Shotwick in 1774. Anyone who can give a hand would be extremely welcome- it's been a puzzle for over 30 years! Thanks Angela Claydon

Re: Truman family from Ohio

suemcclishmelton — 2010-11-20 16:48:00Z

I am a McClish who is related to the family that adopted Walter. I have long wanted to find out his background. I have visited the cemetery where Walter is buried and have worked on the McClish family for years. I cannot contribute much to the the Truman side of the family but do have information on the decendants of Walter "as a McClish". Please let me know if you would like this information. I have a website with a lot of this on it.

Re: Thomas Truman, b. 1812, England

suemcclishmelton — 2010-11-20 16:38:52Z

I have a Walter Scott Truman born in 1893 that was adopted by William Alexander and Eva Jane McClish. He was a railroad child and when he was adopted took the McClish name. There are several decendants of Walter's, one of which was a famous water color artist. Could this be some of your family? I have no idea of any background of Truman to this man but do have info on his decendants and on the McClish family.

Re: Thomas Truman, b. 1812, England

rcunderdog — 2010-10-16 11:17:06Z

Hello!

I haven't been on the formums for a while. My biologcal father's name is Carl Truman, brother to John Truman who was posting in this forum a while back. I just wanted to see if there has been any change in who Thomas Truman, born in 1812 in England was? Thanks!

Sincerely,

Ray C. (Truman) Underwood

TAYLOR Doris Truman 1917-2000

t42MountOlivet — 2010-08-18 11:23:27Z

TAYLOR Doris Truman 1917-2000

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 216,340 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

William Thomas Truman and Eliza A. (Smith) Truman of New York

JBHetrick79 — 2010-07-27 21:58:03Z

Hello~
I am just in the beginning stages of researching William Thomas Truman (8/12/1810-11/27/1867) and his wife Eliza A. (Smith) Truman. (3/18/1812-3-25-1874).
They are known to be the parents of Ruth (Truman) Bentley 1848-1918, buried in Sidney, Iowa, USA; and her sister, Esther Lucretia (Truman) Frazer (7/9/1852-12/6/1911), also buried in Sidney, Iowa, USA.
Their daughter Esther Lucretia was born in Syracuse, New York, so that is one place I need to start looking.
Has anyone heard of this couple? I have Thiel Smith as a possible father to Eliza A. per an old family note. No idea if there were other siblings to Esther and Ruth.
I can exchange info if anyone is looking for Esther Frazer or Ruth Bentley's descendents!!!

Re: Truman Family

mktgdir1 — 2010-06-20 04:52:17Z

Hello from Texas!
My maiden name was Truman. My family came from Iowa. If you have found any additional information that may show a tie please feel free to contact me.

Joseph Truman of Prince Edward Co VA

olclarke — 2010-06-20 01:11:20Z

Need parents & siblings for Joseph b abt 1700. He marr ? McGehee dau of Jacob McGehee Sr. & Ann, her last name not known. Need Miss McGehee's name & children for her & Joseph.
Thanks, Ollie

How different is the yDNA of descendants of Joseph of New London, CT and Phillip of Westfield, MA?

daverichardson1 — 2010-06-08 11:47:38Z

The genealogy of the Tremaine, Tremain, Truman, etc. families of Joseph of New London, CT and Philip of Westfield MA have been confused for years. Has yDNA of their male line descendants shown how far they are apart?
Thanks dave.richardson@mindspring.com

Re: Truman's in Enfield, Stepney, Tottenham, Hackney

keith truman — 2010-03-24 17:56:04Z

Hi
We clearly have a significant connection. I am related to Wlliam Truman (Elizabeth's father). William Truman b1792 had a brother Benjamin was my gg grandfather. If you mail me at the following address I have much to share:
keith.truman@ntlworld.com

Looking forward to hearing from you
Keith Truman

Re: Truman's in Enfield, Stepney, Tottenham, Hackney

pricklepike — 2010-03-23 20:48:15Z

I have a connection to the Trumans via Elizabeth Truman (b. 1819), daughter of William. She married John Farnham and they emigrated to Australia c. 1855. Their son William Truman Farnham was my great-great grandfather. "Truman" turns up as a middle name several times among the descendants of John and Elizabeth.

William Truman came to Australia, possibly as a convict (I'm still checking into that), in the 1830s and died here in 1869.

I'm happy to share any info on this Truman connection and am thankful for any info others (have) share(d).

Re: Thomas Harry Truman b: Jun 1851 Wilshire, England

blues123 — 2010-03-22 10:32:07Z

hi my name is robert truman my family roots come from wiltshire my grandfather was arthur richard truman 1898-1989 his father was john truman 1866-1951 and his father was henry truman 1839-1876 and his father was thomas truman 1811- sorry i dont have any more info ijust thought we might be related somehow