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Re: Need Va/SC connection

TEbel2888 — 2009-11-21 19:27:53Z

I am not a WRIGHT desc. --As a BALL desc. I connect to WASHINGTON.

Many of my ancestors were active in The Augusta Stone Church that shared a minister with Tinkling Springs Church. Most of the congregation had emigrated into PA and then relocated to VA near Staunton c 1740.

Spotsylvania, County, Virginia

nettech_00 — 2009-11-21 14:33:26Z

I am looking for info for a Ann Wright. Ann died 18 Aug 1813. If you have any info on her please e-mail me back nettech_00@yahoo.com Thanks :)

WRIGHT Nannie R 1876-1912

t42RoseHill — 2009-11-21 14:04:53Z

WRIGHT Nannie R 1876-1912

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Re: William Holland Wright

alabama1812 — 2009-11-21 01:12:10Z

I have info on a William Holland Wright that is closely related to the one you mention, or may be him. "My" William Holland Wright was born 1812 and had a brothe named Brantley, and also a son with that name.

Please e mail me at dekalbleaves@usa.com if you would like additional info about this family.

G. Patton

Re: Jessie M Wright 1863 - 1952

kahill1918 — 2009-11-20 19:50:32Z

The Caleb Wright you are referring to was the son of Thomas Wright by wife Sallie Murphy. This Thomas was the son of Caleb Wright the miller who relocated to Owego, Tioga, NY and built mills there. He lived in that part of Owego that later became Nichols. I do have a Joseph as one of the sons of the younger Caleb but no wife and therefore no children. Thanks for the info.

WRIGHT William H 1911-1979

t42MountOlivet — 2009-11-20 13:53:07Z

WRIGHT William H 1911-1979

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Re: Mary Callaghan

gwenwilmore95 — 2009-11-20 09:03:30Z

Mary Callaghan 1886 was my great grandmother do you want to exchange information best wishes Gwen

Re: my ancestors

pawjpeg — 2009-11-19 22:16:30Z

That is my problem my family is already gone. I ask questions before they all died but got no answers so I figured they did not have any answers for me. I knew my moms parents and my moms grandfather and I knew my dads parents and I knew their brothers and sisters but anything else nothing and the nothing is what I am searching for. I want to know who I am and my nationality if that is not asking for to much help. Moms dad was Joseph Carnley her mom was Fanny Francis Nowling; Her grandfather was Henry David Nowling. Dads father was Daniel Major Wall and his mom was Willie Ednie Wright. My husbands name was Clarence Eugene Johnson. That is all I know by name other than my Uncles and Aunts and cousins. I don't know my Husbands people other that his brothers and sister by name.
Thank you I appreciate your help
Peggy

Re: my ancestors

nwhermit — 2009-11-19 20:07:03Z

I grew up without many relitives so, I have really enjoyed finding out what kind of pioneers I came from. You need to start by gathering as much info from living relitives as you can. Once they're gone, you loose a lot of valuable clues.

my ancestors

pawjpeg — 2009-11-19 17:38:18Z

I am searching for my ancestors and tell me if I am wrong for wanting to know who my ancestors are and where they came from.

WRIGHT John Elisha 1892-1976

t42RoseHill — 2009-11-19 13:08:39Z

WRIGHT John Elisha 1892-1976

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Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

MichaelWright12 — 2009-11-18 21:15:32Z

Glenn,

Without knowing what kit number you are talking about it is hard to be any more specific than to say that you should not assume that your Wrights are Southern in origins just because you are R1b1. Unless you have other documentation information that puts them in a historical progression of 1700s in NC, or SC, or GA, to KY &/or TN, to IN &/or IL then everywhere after the civil war, you might very well be related to a Virginia Pennsylvania, New Jersey or New England Wright line.

The group numbers you mention (4 & 6)are just there to direct you to a page that gives some lineage info common to that group of men and a request to join the program if you think you might be related to, for instance, Richard Wright Sr. of Rowan Co., NC. Obviously there are other small subgroups developing in the R1b1 haploid group that do not have a special request being made so there is no "Group Number" listed for them. At some point that might change for them as well.

You should know that most Wrights who were New England Wrights from a very early time are also R1b1. The reason is that most of the Wrights who came to America to both New England, Virginia, Maryland, Georgia and the Carolinas were of this most ancient of English R1b1 stock. It is far and away the most prevalent genetic stock in England for all surnames. Their ancestors have been in England for over 13,000 years and spread to every corner of the British Isles and by 1086, when surnames really came into common use, these men were of every trade, station, and condition imaginable and someone from that group was assigned every conceivable surname as a result. Therefore, it is not possible to pinpoint where you originated in England when you have no one else in the database with whom your DNA profile matches and no other documentation that gives a clue as to location in England.

Advise I might offer includes, if you have only a 12 marker data set, I would suggest taking advantage of the current upgrade sale going on at FTDNA and get yourself upgraded to 67 markers. Ultimately, that is what it takes to refine any matches for the R1b1 group because ya'll are so numerous.

The fact that no one matches your profile within 2 degrees of variation establishes you as a separate line with a very ancient divergence point from the rest of the group....quite possibly a point in pre-surname times (before 1086 AD). You may possibly have closer matches with other surnamed individuals. If you upload your profile to National Geographic Y-DNA Project database, you may find some matches around the world and in England that will help you narrow down where your ancestors come from.

It's tough getting much mileage out of genetic genealogy data comparisons for the R1 haplogroup as a whole, precisely because it is just a huge group with such a deep prehistoric origin in England. I sympathize with your situation and have no other good advice on what more you can get out of your data without a matching profile somewhere.

Those of us in some of the rarer haplogroups are most fortunate to have an opportunity to use the rarity factor to help us pinpoint our origins. It just so happens that two early Wright immigrants, Dea. Samuel Wright and his 3rd cousin, Thomas Wright of Wethersfield were of the very rare English E1b1b1a2 genetic stock. That is why we who are descendants are so lucky. Their genetic profile is rare in England.

The reason it is rare is because they came from a far distant part of the world to England comparatively recently (less than 2000 years ago), so have not had a chance to spread out evenly all over the country. We can look at a density plot (phylogeographical plot) of our genetic profile in England and find very discrete locations around the country where our genetic density (abundance) can be shown to correlate with Roman era records showing where and when certain Thracian auxillary troops were stationed in England between 200 and 400 AD. The same phylogeographical plot of the world then shows us where in the Roman Provinces these early ancestors were most abundant. It turns out to be an area that now lies between Pie and Pristinia, Kosovo; an area called Moesia Superior in Roman times. This was an area reputedly the home of Thracian tribesmen who were renowned for their horsemanship and especially for the use of the long lance on horseback. As a result, they were much sought after mercenary soldiers by Greeks (Alexander the Great being the first to use them in warfare) and later the Roman Army. Between 79 AD and 410 AD at least 11 full corps (580 men) were recruited from these areas and sent to Gaul (Germany) and Britannia (the British Isles). That is a lot of info dug up using just a genetic profile and we can do it only because we are fairly new on the world scene.

R1b1 people, on the other hand, have been around since well before the last Ice Age. Your genetic code is everywhere. So the best you can do with your profile is say you were probably from the so-called Basque refuge area of present day Spain, where the R1b1 people were known to have waited out the last Ice Age. Then, as the ice receded these people traveled north along the coast of France, across the land bridge to England and when all the ice had melted and the land bridge was sunk under the rising sea level, they made England their permanent home. (see Stephen Oppenheimer's "The Origins of the British" for a fuller discussion of this migration)

Not as much as you wanted to know about your prehistory and nothing to help you with your genealogical history. Sorry.

Best of luck, Glenn, finding a cousin somewhere with whom you can team up.

Mike Wright

Re: Need Va/SC connection

vette1980 — 2009-11-18 19:46:35Z

This is interesting I will look and see what I have. It seems to me I have come accross this william jefferson somewhere. How did you make the connection that the William Wright of tinkling spring came to VA from Pa. I could not determine that. Can you tell me how your line up to Richard Whittington Wright. You may e-mail me at vette1980@hotmail.com if you prefer.

Re: Where are the Wrights from

MichaelWright12 — 2009-11-18 19:02:18Z

Coach,

Actually the St. Nicholas Church on the estate of Kelvedon Hall predated the Wright Manor building by at least three centuries. Before the estate came into the possession of the Wrights, it belonged to Waltham Abbey and was a monastic estate where a chapel was built of stone by the monks on the site of an existing wooden Anglo-Saxon house of worship that had been dedicated to St. Nicholas. Next to it, they built a wooden hall for their living quarters. The Abbey held the property for two and a half centuries until the dissolution of the monasteries by Henry VIII in 1538. In that same year John Wright (ca. 1488 - 1551) bought the tenancy of the former monastery estate from Henry VIII's Lord of the Ongar Hundred, Sir Richard Rich, for 493 pounds and change. He greatly expanded the living quarters that stood next to the Chapel and called it Kelvedon Hall. In that place he had four sons and three daughters, John the Elder, Robert, Myddle John, John the Younger, Margaret, Ann and Elizabeth. So far as we can determine, none of the descendants of John the Elder, in whose family the estate remained for the next 400 years, ever left England. Robert Wright is the ancestor of Thomas Wright of Wethersfield, CT. Myddle John Wright is the ancestor of Deacon Samuel Wright of Springfield, MA. We know of no descendants of John the Younger going to America either.

The present Kelvedon Hall manor home dates to the middle of the 18th century when the the wooden Hall was replaced by a greatly expanded one built of brick. The Chapel was incorporated into the new building and rebuilt, but by the middle of the next century it had been replaced as the village place of worship by a newly built church building on the main road in Kelvedon Hatch and thereafter the Estate Church fell into disuse, slowly deteriorating to its present sad condition. In 1922 the last Wright heir of the estate sold the property to a girl's school which operated for a time using the Hall as a dormatory, but not the chapel. After some unfortunate deaths at the school, the estate once again reverted to private ownership and is maintained today as a private residence on nearly all of the original 460 acres of land that constituted the Estate in 1228 when it was granted to Waltham Abbey.

And that, in a nutshell, is the story of the Kelvedon Hall Chapel, formerly known as St. Nicholas Church.

As for marriage into the Beaupre family, I have no knowledge of that and I am unaware of any Sir John and Sir Thomas Wrights ever living at the estate of Kelvedon Hall. There is no evidence that Henry VIII ever knighted John Wright (1488 - 1551), though it appears that he was granted a crest and arms, which were confirmed, with variation, to the grandson of Myddle John Wright of Wrightsbridge by Elizabeth I in 1590 (20 June 32 Elizabeth I). None of these actions entitled the men of the family to use the title "Sir". They remained yoemen beholden to the King's man, Lord of the Ongar Hundred. In the late 1600s Henry Wright, a descendant of John the Elder and Lord of Kelvedon Hall, was made a Baronet but so far as I know he was never knighted. His son inherited the title but by the late 1700's the title they held was extinct, without a direct male heir or female heir to carry it on. The property passed into the hands of a nephew by marriage and the Baronet title went dormant.

I think the information you have referenced was compiled long ago when a number of facts regarding this family group were far less well known and the history of two or more Wright lines were mixed together, inappropriately, as it turns out.

When I started my research into the origins in England of Deacon Samuel Wright of Springfield, I ran into a huge mass of existing published data that had been propounded for a hundred years as fact, only to find when checking the supposed sources, that most of it was wild speculation that had been around so long everyone had forgotten it was just speculation. It had taken on the cloak of "truth" which did not bear up to research inquiry.

As I said in an earlier post to this subject, if it turns out that you are from the Kelvedon Hatch Wright line, I have a great deal of information that has been checked against original sources in England and I have taken great pains to weed out the speculation from the facts and tried to present them both within their appropriate contexts.

Many very good genealogists have worked on this family's history over the last 130 years. Even though there are a number of things they misunderstood, it was not for lack of trying. It was from a lack of ready access to appropriate records. Genealogical research was really hard work even as recently as 20 years ago.

Thank God things are different now. We live in an age now where information flows like water around the world and where preserving records of the past has become an obsession for many classes of people, not just the biographer, historian and genealogist. Over the last 20 years I have watched as the amount of that information on the Internet has grown from absolutely nothing, to nearly everything except the most obscure references, which deficiency Google is trying hard to eliminate.

You still have to do a lot of work, but now more of your time can be spent reading and researching rather than spending time traveling to a place where reading and research are possible.

Even with that advantage I have spend many months in England poring over dusty registers, manuscripts and ledgers all over the middle counties and East Anglia trying to find the tidbits that are scattered here and there which, when assembled into a whole, paint an understandable picture of who these men and women were who started us on the path that leads to who you and I are today.

With the added dimension of Genetic Genealogy now at our fingertips, today is a great day to be working as a historian and genealogist because, if we are lucky (and these Wrights are lucky) we now have the power to check our documentation work with a completely independent research technique, and also step beyond history and genealogy and travel back into anthropological regions of our origins that were never before accessible to mere historians and genealogists. What all this reveals is, as you say, stranger than fiction and every bit as exciting as any good book can be when the people in your past can be brought back to life by what they left behind in the records.

But then a note of caution is warranted here. What I have found is that the reanimation of our ancestors is a slow and tedious process, with many false starts and blind alleyways to be traversed before anything remotely resembling truth comes to light. This is no place for rash assumptions or hasty judgments. So, as you travel on your path of ancestor discovery, be cautions, be prepared to work hard at it, and be prepared to forget everything you think you know about them and let their records speak for themselves.

Best of Luck, too!

Mike Wright

Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

map2knit — 2009-11-18 18:42:35Z

Mike: You mention in your post dated November 17, “If it turns out, instead, that your Y-DNA is of the E1b1b1a2 halplogroup,…”

How do I interpret the “…” following R1b1 below?
Summary of STR Y-Chromosome Results in Haplogroup R1b1... and Subclades

I notice in the group column there is a “4” that seems to identify a group that is color-coded bright yellow; and I don’t find another number until “6” color-coded a pale pink. (It’s not exactly pink, but that’s about as close as I can describe it.)

My kit is a single color, and is several colors below the bright yellow, but I’m not sure just what that implies, other than I know it has to be connected to a Southern family.
Thanks much,
Glenn

Re: Who has Thomas Wright, deputy U. S. marshal in Texas in 1870's?

rustonfamilytree — 2009-11-18 14:07:05Z

I am not sure but we may have a connection. I am stuck at an ancestor William B. Wright from Grayson County TX. He was born in 1882 d. 1934. Thought there may be a possible connection. If so let me know!

Amanda

Wrights from Grayson County Texas

rustonfamilytree — 2009-11-18 13:56:08Z

Hi I am looking for information on a William Barnett "Barnie" Wright b. 9/10/1882 in Grayson County, Texas, lived in Bexar County Texas, died in Grayson County 10/26/1934 by falling down a well. He was married to an Elizabeth "Lizzie" Ann Bredow b. 1890, and they had several children, Agnes Elizabeth Wright Shearer b.1914, Henry E. Wright b. 1921, Earl Wright b. 1919, Inez Marie Wright McBride Rennespies b. 1926, and Lucille Margarite Wright Budge Rennespies b. 1928. My maternal grandmother was Agnes Elizabeth. Any information on living relatives or on William would be so great. Thanks Amanda Ruston

WRIGHT May R 1901-1961

t42RoseHill — 2009-11-18 12:17:55Z

WRIGHT May R 1901-1961

I photographed this gravestone in the (Shannon) Rose Hill Cemetery, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 210,056 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com .

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Re: Where are the Wrights from

CoachWSW — 2009-11-17 22:22:58Z

Fantastic efforts and the logical speculations from the religious and professional choices some of the characters made would make sense to many. The Wright's in Kelvedon Thatch/Hatch even had a church built on their property. Sir John Wright and Sir Thomas Wright lived there and I believe that somewhere not far down the line two of the sons married the Beaupre sisters. I do not have the tree as I lost it when my computer crashed but it was pretty neat stuff. Not a DNA tract that some have concluded but interesting stories just the same and it all leads to the fun speculations that no matter what the name is the truth can be stranger than fiction.

Re: Wrathall family

JoyceNicholson999 — 2009-11-17 22:21:10Z

Any members of the Wrathall family can email me on joyce.nicholson@slingshot.co.nz to be added to the Wrathall Family Book being published in 2010 [hopefully a reunion later in 2010 as well].
Thanks,
Joyce [Wrathall] Nicholson

Re: Where are the Wrights from

MichaelWright12 — 2009-11-17 21:45:40Z

John,

In my mind the answer is YES and NO. Yes I think we have proven it, but NO we did not prove it with documentation, but rather with a combination of circumstantial documentation and Y-DNA evidence. Let me explain what our thinking is to-date.

There still are not three pieces of solid documentation of a connection between Deacon Samuel Wright and John Wright Esq., Clerk of the House of Commons from 1613 - 1639. There are three circumstantial pieces of documentation that we are relying on for support of the proposed connection. The most solid of which is a baptismal record of "Samuel son of Mr. Wright" at St. Peter's church dated June 29 or 30 1606(the Roman numerals XIX or XXX could be interpreted to be either number, even in the original document). The reference to "Mr. Wright" instead of "John Wright of the Bridge" distinguishes the barrister, John Wright, Esq. (1569 - 1644) from his father, "John Wright of the Bridge" or "of Wrightsbridge" (1544 - 1624) well enough in these parish records that it is certain John Wright, Esq.'s third son was named Samuel. His first son was John, who followed him into the Law, and the second was Nathaniel, whom some, including myself, believe is the Nathaniel Wright mentioned in an undated Charles I MSS as having given oath in behalf of his brother, Samuel, for travel abroad.

The third corroborating documentation evidence to this baptismal and Kings MSS is an entry in the Cambridge University Register noting the 1624 matriculation into Emmanuel College of one "Samuel Wright, of Essex - possibly s. of John Wright, Esq."

The circumstantial parts of all this include the fact that we have found documentation showing that Nathaniel and Lydia (nee James) Wright's eldest son, Samuel, (b. 1614) never left England and that John Wright, Esq. also matriculated the second class of Emmanuel College in 1583, but instead of following his University training into the Puritan ministry, for which purpose Emmanuel College had been chartered in 1581, he is documented to have got himself admitted to Gray's Inn in 1586 to begin the study of the law. The Inns of Court were, in those days, both finishing schools for young noblemen and sons of country gentlemen as well as the top tier training centers for the study of the Law. Apparently John Wright took his law studies seriously enough to become a lawyer and later called to the Bar as a barrister and Justice of the Peace before attaining the post of Clerk of the House of Commons in 1612 by the favor of James I (who paid his salary.)

On the other hand, it would seem Samuel did take his Emmanuel College Puritan ministry training seriously and, if John Wright, Esq was his father, likely came into some disfavor with his father because John Wright, Esq. was no zealot in religious matters, and had little political room for a family member who was a zealot. In fact as Clerk of the House of Commons John Wright walked a very thin line for a very long time between the House's predomenently Puritan membership and the interests of his employers, Kings James I and Charles I. All this required him to pay lip service to the Anglican Church, while affecting tolerance of the Catholic Church and avoiding being too openly tied to Protestant causes, whenever it suited his quest to fulfill his secular ambitions. Those ambitions depended nearly totally on the favor of King and Court.

Given the kind of pragmatic man-of-the-world his father was and the religious idealist Samuel was, I can see a substantial motivation for Samuel to take his family and emigrate to New England. There would have been the same real religious/moral conflicts going on within his family as were going on in early Stuart England at large. This was particularly true during the reign of Charles I, with whom his father, John Wright, Esq., seems to have had enough courtly favor to have requested and promptly recieved a letter from Charles I to the effect of commanding that the Benchers of Gray's Inn (its governing body) allow John Wright his place as a Bencher, even though he had never fulfilled the required "readings" for entry to the senior levels of Inn governance. John Wright's only reason for wanting to become a Bencher was so that he had the power to more effectively look after the interests of his son, John Wright, Jr., who had just entered the Inn as a student. Nepotism and influence peddling at it's best!

To the Samuel Wright we see operating in Springfield and Northampton, MA with such a high moral compass, such coziness of his father with the Catholic loving Charles I and the wheeling and dealing with "the scones of Satan" would have been a nearly intolerable insult to his Puritan religious zeal. Quite enough, I think, to have driven him away from his family and across the seas to get away from such total corruption.

Be that as it might, the real proof of the ancestry of Dea. Samuel Wright comes from the degree of match between the Y-DNA of descendants of Thomas Wright of Wethersfield, CT and descendants of Deacon Samuel Wright of Sprinfield and Northampton. They are both members of the very small haplogroup of E1b1b1a2 with a +1 12 marker match that seems quite characteristic as a means of separating their descendants from each other and from all other Wright Y-DNA lines. The ancestry of Thomas Wright of Wethersfield back to at least John Wright of Kelvedon Hall (ca 1488 - 1551) is well documented. That Thomas and Samuel were third cousins is consistent with the type of mutation pattern seen in the 67 Y-DNA marker comparisons of their proven descendants. Ergo, they are both Kelvedon Hatch Wright descendants.

So, combining the circumstantial documentation evidence with the DNA evidence, we seem to have at last arrived at an overwhelming body of evidence that points nearly irresistablly to John and Martha (nee Castell) Wright as the parents of Deacon Samuel Wright.

Now, there are still other possibilities, such as a descendant of John Wright the Younger. But, as with Nathaniel Wright's son, Samuel (who was John Wright, Esq's nephew), the birth date is not a good fit for having been the Deacon and we know far too little about this son's life to form a decent counter-proposal favoring him.

Despite the DNA evidence in hand, we continue working on the documentation angle. For instance, we are still looking for what we now have come to believe is a long lost parish record book in a county quite outside Essex where we believe Samuel and Margaret Wright lived prior to emigrating to New England. We had hoped to find the parish record of their marriage and the birth of some of their children in that register.

If the register has not been destroyed over the centuries, it is probably in private hands and they may not even know what they have or have reasons for not wanting it to be found. I am about at the point of calling it quits in looking for this register among the private sector after 5 years of off-and-on efforts. Finding such records would be the final proof we would need to say we have this proven by documentation, quite aside from the DNA evidence.

Someday I am going to get around to finishing and publishing the book on all this parentage research that I have been working on for 12 years. It will, I hope, be better referenced (with both positive and negative references) than anything heretofore published, enabling future generations of genealogists to quickly come up to speed on this family group from original documents without spending years tracking down all the sources.

This is the best we have so far. Hope what I have given out answers your question in an adequate fashion. If you wish to take me to task on any of it, please feel free. I have enough additional data on all this to drive even the most entheusiastic among us into a complete stupor.

TaTa,
Mike Wright

Re: Need Va/SC connection

TEbel2888 — 2009-11-17 21:05:03Z

I am researching two lines of Wright who may or may not connect.

James Jefferson WRIGHT is my friend's line.

Richard Whittington WRIGHT is not direct for me, but married into my lines.

You mentioned Tinkling Spring:

Tinkling Spring Church shared Rev. John CRAIG with the Augusta Stone Church, aka Ft. Defiance near Staunton, VA. That was a Scot-Irish settlement, most of it's population had emigrated into PA c 1720 and the relocated to VA.

I have Richard WRIGHT b 1664 m Hester "Charity" FOSSAKER, do Richard FOSSAKER and Mary WITHERS. Hester FOSSAKER's brother John m my many-grt aunt Elizabeth MOTT--do George.

Richard WRIGHT was the nephew of Richard Whittington WRIGHT and son of George..

FOSSAKERs were of Stafford Co., VA and MOTTs were from Essex Co.

WRIGHT Edna Loraine 1921-1976

t42MountOlivet — 2009-11-17 19:58:52Z

WRIGHT Edna Loraine 1921-1976

I photographed this gravestone in the Mount Olivet Cemetery, Fort Worth, Tarrant Co., Texas. Feel free to use this picture for your personal records. This is one of the 210,056 cemetery photos free at http://teafor2.com

If you know more about this person please reply here instead of contacting me because this is most likely not my family.

Re: Need Va/SC connection

vette1980 — 2009-11-17 19:28:11Z

I have seen this so called connection. I was looking at the children of William Wright there are 15. I saw a few that moved southward SC, GA, NC. Then there were a few that went to OH. Then 2 that are my desendents went to western VA or west virginia. I will look into this James Jefferson Wright. I point to William because he had 15 children.

Note do not confuse this William with William of tinkling spring VA. I have found no connection but to think the families of Fequier (spelling) county and the ones from Tinkling spring were but 50 to 75 miles apart for years leads me to suspect a connection. I mean what are the odds of 2 William Wright's at about the same time that close. I am also confused because later generations claim to be scots irish but if your line goes to Richard you are definately english.

Re: Wrights of 1830 Sullivan Co., TN

wething1 — 2009-11-17 19:06:05Z

Susan,

I believe I'm the one a few years back who mentioned I had a photo of John Richmond Guy in his civil war uniform. I do have that picture if you would still like to see it. I can be reached at tcalisti@crewtransport.com.

Toni Guy-Calisti

Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

CoachWSW — 2009-11-17 18:58:23Z

Sounds like a good idea and thank you for your research and efforts. I am sure it helps everyone that is looking for some answers or at least having fun doing the research.

Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

MichaelWright12 — 2009-11-17 18:49:16Z

Dear Coach,

Not only different branches, but entirely unrelated branches of Wrights. There are over 100 completely unrealated Wright lines already represented in the Y-DNA results section of the Wright DNA project (www.wright-dna.org) and it is known that the Kilverstone Wrights and the Kelvedon Hatch Wrights are not related in a genealogical timeframe (post-1086 A.D.), nor are they even related in any recent anthropological timeframe. Their most recent common ancestor probably lived well over 45,000 years ago.

So, what you will find when your Wright Y-DNA results come back is which of the hundred or so Wright family groups you belong to, and then there will still be a lot of detective work to do.

If it turns out you are descended from Oyster Bay Wright's, then I would urge you to start your documentation research by obtaining a copy of the Jan. 1871 issue of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record and access the article by John J. Latting entitled, "The Wright Family of Oyster Bay, L.I." This is available on a CD through the NYGBS's web site www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org. You will want to order Disc No. 1 (there are five CDs, I think spanning the years 1869 through 1960 of the Record's publication). The cost is about $35/CD with shipping, but the rundown of the Kilverstone Wrights and their immigration to Massachusetts and later removal to Long Island is researched and well presented in this seminal article. such that it is an essential starting point for further research of the family in England as well as in America.

If it turns out, instead, that your Y-DNA is of the E1b1b1a2 halplogroup, then contact me and I will be glad to fill you in on the documented ancestry of this Kelvedon Hatch Wright family back to ca. 1424 as well as the recent thinking, based on Y-DNA evidence, about their anthropological origins in the Roman era province of Greater Moesia.

Best Regards and Best of Luck,
Mike Wright

Re: re: Cpt.Richard Whittington Wright

vette1980 — 2009-11-17 18:42:02Z

Well yes and no on the Charlemagne. As far back as we can go in John Wright b 1476 but his wife Alice Ryther now there you can go back a great bit farther. You are good on what you have it is well documented. Check out the gun powder plot about Robert's brothers.

RW...(<:

Re: Where are the Wrights from

CoachWSW — 2009-11-17 15:42:34Z

That is what I was told as well and that my branch of the Wright's goes back to Sir John Wright, father of Sir Thomas Wright. This also goes back to the Wryte's of Normandy. 3 brothers were part of the kings army and were awarded lands in different parts of the UK. They were all related and each had descendants that went to the USA. Nicholas Wright and Elizabeth Wright seem to be very poular names.

Re: Where are the Wrights from

jkwright113 — 2009-11-17 15:30:34Z

Has the descendancy of Deacon Samuel Wright been confirmed as John Wright, Lord John Wright and John Wright of Kelvedon Hall?
I have read of numerous efforts to determine and verify Deacon Samuel's ancestral line, but it has always been noted as unverified in the past.
John

Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

CoachWSW — 2009-11-17 14:16:12Z

Fantastic. We may have different branches then. I will continue my research and will be anxious to get the DNA report at some point. Always anxious to learn more and add the connections to the family history. My email is CoachWSW and that is at aol dot com. Anything you can share would be great.

Re: Where are the Wrights from

CoachWSW — 2009-11-17 14:09:47Z

I think you are correct about Wilbur and Orville not being married but do not know for sure. Mrs. Wright-Nee Koehner was the mother of Wilbur and Orville and did not marry her sons;)

Re: re: Cpt.Richard Whittington Wright

TEbel2888 — 2009-11-17 14:01:17Z

I have Francis b c 1553 Sowerby, Yorkshire, England m a Miss MARKHAM

His father Francis b c 1523 m a Miss THORNTON

His father Robert b c 1503 m Ann GRIMSTON

I cannot site the source, but someone supposedly has them back to Charlemagne

Re: re: Cpt.Richard Whittington Wright

TEbel2888 — 2009-11-17 14:00:41Z

WRIGHT Theodocia BURCH 1860 1886

t42OldAlton_DentonCoTX — 2009-11-17 12:20:09Z

WRIGHT Theodocia BURCH 1860 1886

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Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

MichaelWright12 — 2009-11-17 05:28:55Z

Coach are you referring to a John Wright of Kilverstone Hall, Co. Norfolk, England? The Oyster Bay Wrights were not kin of John Wright of the Kelvedon Hatch Wrights. They were descendants of the Co. Norfolk Wrights known as the Kilverstone Wrights.
Mike Wright

Re: Where are the Wrights from

MichaelWright12 — 2009-11-17 05:10:03Z

Hate to tell you Coach, but your cousin has got some things mixed up about Wilbur and Orville Wright in the tree that you received.

Wilbur and Orville Wright of Dayton, the so-called Wright Brothers of Flying fame, never married and, therefore, both died without issue. Two older brothers Reuchlin and Lorin both married and have living descendants today. Their sister, Katherine, married so late in life that she never had issue either. Their Mother's family, the Koehners, were indeed from Virginia, but the Wright men were from Ohio. Their father, Bishop Milton Wright spent some time in Indiana before bringing the family back to Ohio to live in Dayton, but his father had been born in VT and raised in Ohio and before that the family had been from Vermont and Massachusetts (Northampton, MA), not PA, VA or NY.

Their immigrant father was Deacon Samuel Wright of Springfield and Northampton, MA. [(1606 - 1665) a founding father of both towns]. Dea. Samuel Wright, his father, John Wright, Esq. [(1569 - 1644), Clerk of the House of Commons (1613 -1639)] and Grandfather, Lord John Wright of Wrightsbridge (1544 - 1624) were all baptized at St. Peter's Church in South Weald parish, Co. Essex, England and were descendants of John Wright, (ab.1488 - 1551) Lord of the Manor of Kelvedon Hall, in Kelvedon Hatch, Co. Essex, England. These Wrights were not from Virginia or Pennsylvania and never spent time in NY except to travel through it to get from VT to Ohio.

Hope that helps clarify things a bit. I can point you to many references for these statements if you wish to have them to provide to your cousin. They are too numerous to list in an e-mail like this one.
Mike Wright

Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

CoachWSW — 2009-11-16 23:21:32Z

Would love to compare it with what my cousin Mo has. This line of Wright's goes back to Sir John Wright and then to the Wryte's of Normandy. CoachWSW @ Aol. com

Re: Where are the Wrights from

CoachWSW — 2009-11-16 23:08:09Z

Orville and Wilbur Wright family come from England. The predescending relatives were of course Ohio, Viginia, PA, NY, MA and England. Have a cousin that has the family tree for her side and the Wright's are part of her tree. Wilb ur married a Koehner and they Wright's and Janney's founded Waterford, Loudoun County in VA. Koehner's are from Loudoun County as well but they married in Ohio.

Re: re: Cpt.Richard Whittington Wright

vette1980 — 2009-11-16 20:07:19Z

Richard Whittington Wright is my 9th great grandfather from my son he would be the 13th generation back. His father wouldhave been D.D. Francis Wright Rev. 1601 to 1655 married to Anne Merriton 1612 to 3/29/1690. Now his father was Francis Wright 1575 to 1651 and his wife was Grace Beckwith died 1665. and his father was also Francis Wright 1547 to ?. His father was william wright born 1523 to 1621 and his father was Robert Wright 1501 to 1594.

WRIGHT T E 1860 1886 dau of N A and A M Wright

t42OldAlton_DentonCoTX — 2009-11-16 13:52:51Z

WRIGHT T E 1860 1886 dau of N A and A M Wright

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Re: Wright's of Sanilac Co Michigan

gs767 — 2009-11-14 22:10:32Z

My great great grandfather Dorland Wright had two brothers that emigrated to Greenleaf, Senilac, Michigan. Cass City these days. Willot Wright and his brother Philip from Marmora, Hastings Ontario. Philip died about 1906 after being gored by a bull on his farm. Both were sons of Weston Wright and Margaret Roblin. You can reach me at geraldhayes767@hotmail.com

Gerald Hayes

Re: Mary E Wright (b. aprox 1865) Rawdon

gs767 — 2009-11-14 20:52:13Z

Mary Elizabeth Wright Daughter of Dorland Wright and Elizabeth Danford. Dorland is son Of Weston Wright Of Carver Plymouth, Massachusettes. Dorland is my great great grandfather. Contact me at geraldhayes767@hotmail.com

Re: Wrights from Mayflower 1623

gs767 — 2009-11-14 20:39:35Z

Hello:

In regards to Richard Wright B. 1608- 1691, I am a descendent of his. He was married to Hester Cooke daughter of Francis Cooke of the Mayflower. His son Adam Wright was married to Sarah Soule and then he married Mehetible Barrows. I am descended from there son Moses. Richard lived in Plymouth, and Adam in Plympton, I have much more to share. You can reach me at geraldhayes767@hotmail.com

Gerald Hayes

Re: Wright/Canada USA

gs767 — 2009-11-14 19:31:13Z

For those interested in the Wright families of Ontario you will find various Wright families that are not related. Wrights that emigrated from England, Scotland, Ireland, and my Wright family that came to Hastings county in the 1820s from New Hampshire. Others that came as United Empire Loyalists. My earliest ancestor in Canada was Weston Wright Married to Margaret Mary Roblin of Adolphustown. If I can be of help, contact geraldhayes767@hotmail.com

Re: Where are the Wrights from

gs767 — 2009-11-14 18:42:54Z

Which Orville Wright. If you mean Orville and Wilbur of airplain fame. They are of English descent and related to Sir John Wright of Kelvedon Hall, South Weald, Essex, England. For other info contact me at geraldhayes767@hotmail.com

WRIGHT Jesse J 1887-1975

t42RoseHill — 2009-11-14 14:03:22Z

WRIGHT Jesse J 1887-1975

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Re: james wright father of cyrus wright of Il

JAY6525 — 2009-11-14 07:43:36Z

HOW ARE YOU?MY GGGGRANDFATHERS NAME IS JAMES WRIGHT. HE MARRIED A NANCY JACKSON.THEY LIVED IN NEW JERSEY,THEY HAD CHILDREN. I KNOW SARAH WAS HIS DAUGHTER.THEY HAD OTHER CHILDREN BUT I HAVE TO LOOK IN MY NOTES TO LET YOU KNOW.IF THIS INFO SOUNDS FAMILIAR GET BAK. THANKS JAY... BLIZZARD7272@YAHOO.COM

Re: james wright father of cyrus wright of Il

JAY6525 — 2009-11-14 07:42:04Z

Re: Peter Wright of Oyster Bay, long Island, New York

jboettinger — 2009-11-13 22:10:45Z

I was just given a very large family tree of the Wright family and I don't have Alice's maiden name either. I am still trying to figure out which line I am. It looks like I am a descendant of of Peter Wright's daughter Sarah who also married Edmund Wright? This is a hand-made chart so it is a little confusing. Looks like Edmund is related to Elizabeth Townsend,