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Ida Clara Vielhauer

Posted: 20 Jul 2000 9:20PM GMT
Edited: 26 Jul 2001 3:16AM GMT
Ida was husbands adoptive grandmother. She adopted and took take of many children over the years. She adopted my husband's mother when she was 8 months old in Arizona in late 1917. Ida was born in New York and married Robert H. Bagley. Any info appreciated.

Vielhauer

Posted: 11 Sep 2000 10:24PM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 3:47AM GMT
I'm a descendant of a family of Vielhauers. They came from Boeckingen which is now a part of the city Heilbronn, Germany. They first settled in the Herkimer, New York area. A "Wilhelm Vielhauer" died in Herkimer, NY on February 4, 1916. He was the brother of my great great grandmother, Pauline Vielhauer (she spelled it Filhour) Loeffler. There were three other brothers so maybe your "Ida" is the child of one of these men who were German immigrants in upstate NY. Do you know Ida's dad's name...can you get a death certificate that might show her parent's names?

Vielhauer in Herkimer, NY

Posted: 12 Sep 2000 6:15PM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 3:47AM GMT
Here's the address of a web page for the 1933 Herkimer, NY Business Directory...there's a man named "Vielhauer" who owns a restaurant in that town. It's mentioned in the Business Directory. So, even as late as 1933 there were some Vielhauer's in Herkimer. I'll keep looking...if you can connect your person to these Vielhauers of mine from New York, you will tie into a family tree that is documented back to 1540 in Germany. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/herktown/herk1933bus.html

Vielhauer/Loeffler

Posted: 16 Sep 2000 8:48PM GMT
Edited: 23 Jun 2001 7:23PM GMT
I was so happy to hear from someone looking for info on the Vielhauer's of Herkimer, New York. I am a decendent of Godfried Loeffler Anna Louise Vielhauer of Herkimer,NY.I have some info on the family. I have that William Vielhauer died on Feb. 4.1916, that he was born in Wurtenburg, Germany (this was taken from his obituary. He was married to Margaret Deitz of Point Rock, N.Y. near Rome, N.Y. 56 years before his death. The couple resided in Point Rock but 3 years later they became residents of Herkimer. They had 9 children of which 7 survived. Please e-mail me for more info.

Loeffler/Vielhauer

Posted: 17 Sep 2000 2:49AM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 3:47AM GMT
Great to hear from you but I think we've got a problem to work out. My Gottfried Loeffler was the husband of Pauline Vielhauer, the aunt of Anna. Anna was the daughter of Wilhelm Vielhauer Mary Dietz, right? Wilhelm and Pauline were brother and sister. So, is Anna's husband Gottfried Loeffler a relative of Pauline's Gottfried Loeffler or is it just a coincidence that two Germans in the same area had the same name. Loeffler is a pretty common name so I suppose it's possible. I know that Pauline and Gottfried were married for over 50 years...they were married in Verona, NY on September 16, 1858 and were married until he died in Wisconsin in 1909. I have a picture of the 50th wedding anniversary gathering on the farm. Do you have dates for Anna's Gottfried? This should be fun!

Vielhauer

Posted: 17 Sep 2000 3:26AM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 3:47AM GMT
Hi, Janice:
After I sent my previous message, I checked the Loeffler message board and your list of the children of Gottfried cleared up the problem. The person you're calling Anna is my great-great grandmother, Pauline Vielhauer Loeffler. Pauline was the sister of Wilhelm Vielhauer who married Mary Dietz. I noticed that Wilhelm Mary had a daughter named Anna so in my previous message I thought you were referring to that daughter, Anna. Pauline and Gottfried's daughter Mary, who was on your list, was my great-grandmother. I have a list of those children that I'm told was written down by their sister Mary many years ago before she died in 1920. Mary married Adam Schmidt and their daughter, Rose Schmidt was my grandma.
It'll be interesting to know why you are calling the same person a different name than I know her by. Now, in case you don't know this, the Vielhauer genealogy has been done all the way back to Hans Vielhauer, born about 1576 in Boeckingen, Germany, the town in which he bacame the mayor. If you go by his father Martin's probable birth year, we're back around 1540-1550. Someone else did the tree. Write to me at:
patpiper@worldnet.att.net

William Vielhauer

Posted: 17 Sep 2000 7:59AM GMT
Edited: 23 Jun 2001 7:23PM GMT
The info I have on William Vielhauer form his obituary is was from Wurtemburg, married Margaret Deitz who was from Point Rock,N.Y.They lived there for about 3 yrs. before becoming residents of Herkimer.There children were:Wm.Jr., Henry,Augustus,Oscar, Minnie, it says a Mrs.John Evans(no 1st name), Mrs. James Laafayette (no 1st name).He had "8 grandchildren, 3 greatgrandchildren,2 brothers:Martin Charles, 1 sister"Mrs.Godfrey Loeffler" of
Baraboo,Wis.His parents were :George B.Anna Naugle.I know of a person that may beable to clear this up. My info says, Godfrey's wife was Anna Vielhauer but other places I have a blank. There is supposed to be a will for a Caroline Loeffler probated Aug. 1915 in Bk.41-145(taken from 1921 Directory of Herkimer)It says, Otto, Caroline, Anna Louise Loeffler bought pproperty in the late 1800's. Otto filed for naturalization. Let's forget the wife of Wm. concentrate on the other facts, do they match? I contact a cousin in Calif. try to get all of his info. I feel sure that we are talking about the same family.

Pauline Vielhauer Loeffler

Posted: 17 Sep 2000 8:10AM GMT
Edited: 23 Jun 2001 7:23PM GMT
You say that Pauline was Godfried's wife, I am sure that is possible, someone got mixed up along the way. I don't remember the Loeffler family as well as other families keeping up with their family history too well in the first half of this century. It is too bad records weren't kept very detailed over the years. You say that Pauline was the aunt of Anna, who was her parents? Please let me know, then I'll make the call to the person I think might beable to clear this up.

Vielhauer

Posted: 17 Sep 2000 8:49AM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 3:47AM GMT
Hi, Janice:
Is the person you know in California a retired Marine Col. in Carlsbad, California? He's the one who did the extensive family tree I was talking about. By 1975, I had already gotten as far back in the tree as Johanna Nagel (probably the same person you are calling Hanna Naugel). In about 1998 I heard about the fellow in California who had done the Vielhauers back to the 1500s. I have a copy of his work and he and I do both show Pauline as the name of Gottfried's wife. His documentation is from the church the church records in Germany and my documentation is after the family immigrated... mostly from the Wisconsin census and (I think) someone's marriage certificate. Amyway, I'll send you everything I have so you can see it. Where do you live. I'm in Minneapolis. You can use my direct email address if you would like...it's a little faster than using this system.

Anna Vielhauer

Posted: 17 Sep 2000 9:18AM GMT
Edited: 30 Jun 2001 3:47AM GMT
I forgot to answer your question about who were the parents of Anna. The only Anna Vielhauer I show in more recent times is Anna, the daughter of William Vielhauer and Mary Dietz (or Deitz). William was Pauline's brother so that would make Anna the niece of Pauline Vielhauer. I think in your first message you described William Mary. The only other Anna Vielhauer I see in this Vielhauer line is one who was born in 1599. Write to me patpiper@worldnet.att.net
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