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Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 7 May 2009 6:22AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Hass
Doers anyone know where one could view the Coroner Inquest records for New York City circa 1900?

Searching for the date of death of GGG Grandfather Albert Hass who we are certain died before the 1900 census. 80 year old cousin has advised Albert Hass dies in an Ink Factory explosion and no bodies were revovered. Have found his wife's garve in Calvary and he is not with her. Not in son's grave or in St. Raymonmd's Cemnetery ion the Bronx. He is not with his twin daughters who died at the age of 3 and were buried together in a "Donated Charity" grave in Lutheran Cemetery in Brooklyn.

Albert Hass born 1850. Hochmosgen, Germany. Immigrated U.S. 1871. Was a shoemaker by craft. Listed in 1898 New York Directory as a "Clerk" Then wife Isabella Haas is listed as a widow on 1900 census.

We haqve checked the NYC Municipal Archives and there is no Death Certificate on file. We have been told that people who died in these situations had Coroner's Inquest Records issued in lieu of a Death Ceretificate. Municipal Archives advises Coroner Inquest Records are not on file. NYC Medical Examiner advises their records in office do not go that far back but man we spoke too stat5ed he believes the old records are located in one of the libraries of a City University which maintains them for historical purposes.

Anybody know which college may have them?

Anybody have access to newspapwer article describing a huge Ink Factory explosion in New York City 1898-1900 where workers were blown into small pieces and therefore no bodies were recovered.

Re: Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 7 May 2009 12:06PM GMT
Classification: Query
Are you aware of the following FHL Films:
Records of coroners office; inquests to deaths, New York City, 1862-1864, 1868-1918

They are purported to be microreproduction of ms. at Queens College Library in Flushing, New York.

The films are:
Inquests, 1862-1864 FHL US/CAN Film 514332
Inquests, 1868-1877 FHL US/CAN Film 501149
Inquests, 1877-1883 FHL US/CAN Film 501150
Inquests, 1883-1886 FHL US/CAN Film 501151
Inquests, 1886-1889 FHL US/CAN Film 501152
Inquests, 1889-1892 FHL US/CAN Film 501153
Inquests, 1891-1903 FHL US/CAN Film 501154
Inquests, 1903-1914 FHL US/CAN Film 501155
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You may also want to search or inquire at Queens College Library
http://qcpages.qc.cuny.edu/Library/index.html

Re: Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 7 May 2009 12:30PM GMT
Classification: Query
You have been (sort of) misinformed by the Municipal Archives. They do have Coroners Records in the Research Room but they are not indexed. Frankly, there seems to be little organization to collection other than they are grouped by Month/Year but certainly not chronologically within that context. So perhaps your responder meant that the Archives will not conduct a search on your behalf.

This being said, you have been properly informed that an inquest was done for accidental deaths - a few weeks ago I saw a whole series of documents for the victims of a boat explosion and sinking in the East River, circa 1880s. However, I don't know if an inquest was held for every accidental or "suspcious" death, although something like a factory explosion might well qualify.

I checked the online edition of the NY Times and there is nothing regarding an ink factory explosion in 1898-1900. Actually, I searched on the names "Albert Hass" and "Albert Haas" as these types of events usually have victim list somewhere in the article, with no luck. However, there was an article for a sugar refinery explosion and fire where an Albert Haas was listed as one of the 9 victims. That's the good news; the bad news it that the explosion was in 1890 in Chicago. It was such an odd coincidence I thought I'd throw it out there just in case...

By the way, if you can provide Albert's last know address, that might help. I have frequently turned up more results by searching on the address than on the name, even though the name is listed in the article.

Good Luck!

Lynn

Re: Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 7 May 2009 7:46PM GMT
Classification: Query
I had searched for Coronors Records (about 8 years ago) for the date of 2 Oct 1903. They are not located at the Archive. They were donated to Queens College some time ago. They are NO LONGER THERE. They have been disposed of. My response to my inquiry says:

"Thank you for you letter unfortunately it cones about 20 years too late. Coroners Reports were destroyed about that time although some of the period 1784 - 1819 were resqued and are at the College. Sorry I can be of little help."

New York, NY Tarrant & Co Drug House Explosion, Nov 1900

Posted: 7 May 2009 9:28PM GMT
Classification: Query
In case this turns out to be the same explosion your researching I have posted the entire article.

New York, NY Tarrant & Co Drug House Explosion, Nov 1900

FIRE HORROR IN NEW YORK CITY

Many Persons Killed and Property, Worth Millions, Destroyed.

SHOCK LIKE EARTHQUAKE

Fire Started in a Drug House and Explosions of Chemicals Wrecked an Acre of Buildings.

The Fire Said to Have Started in the Laboratory of Tarrant & Co.'s Drug House From an Electric Wire – The Business Section of the Metropolis Shock by a Series of Explosions – Hundreds Were Injured, Most of Them by Flying Debris – Property Loss Estimated at $1,500,000.

New York City (Special). -- A terrific explosion of chemicals in the wholesale drug store of Tarrant & Co., on the northwest corner of Warren and Greenwich streets, totally wrecked about twenty buildings and damaged three score others more of less; made more than thirty firms homeless, entailed a property loss of about $1,500,000, injured over 200 persons, some of them seriously, and killed over a score of others. The loss of life may be finally determined when the ruins have been searched.
Flames were seen breaking from the third floor of the drug manufacturing house of Tarrant & Co. some minutes before the crash came. At ten minutes after 12 o'clock a terrific explosion in the Tarrant building threw the entire front of the structure into the street.
One fire company had just arrived on the scene when the awful explosion occurred. It threw the whole engine crew down the stairway.
Captain DEVANNEY, of the company, ordered his crew back into the building again. They were dragging the line to the doorway for the second time when a second explosion, more terrific that the first, come, and the whole crew was hurled across Greenwich street.
In the meantime the other engines that had responded to the alarm had collected, and the firemen were busy rescuing people from surrounding buildings. Firemen had already taken many girls down the only fire escape upon the building, and more persons had been carried down the escapes of the Home-Made Restaurant, next door, and the buildings adjoining upon Warren street.
Reliable persons who witnessed the second explosion declare they saw a column of smoke and flame shoot 300 feet into the air from the top of the drug shop, and nearly all of them assert that they clearly saw bodies in the fiery fountain.
The building seemed to leap into the air, and in a moment masses of brick wall, timbers and stone were falling into the streets. The force of the explosion tore away the walls of the big commission store houses fronting on Washington street and caused them to collapse, falling all at once in a mass of timbers, boxes and barrels, from which the flames, which burst out from the Tarrant building like the belching of a cannon, at once broke forth.
Across Warren street to the opposite buildings the flames leaped, setting them all on fire at once, the force of the explosion demolishing windows and all wooden structures about the houses. In a moment Warren street was choked up with a mass of debris and the whole place was aflame. The great explosion was followed by half a dozen more, scarcely less intense, and by a countless number of smaller ones.
By this time the fire apparatus was arriving from every direction. Deputy Chief AHEARN came about two minutes after the second series of explosions, and he at once ordered a fifth alarm sent out, followed by a general call for ambulances. The explosion and the fire together had now assumed the proportion of a great catastrophe. Throngs of people were rushing about in the near-by streets, many of them panic-stricken, fleeing from the fire.
Half an hour after the explosion the streets for blocks around the fire were crowded with fire apparatus with a score of ambulances, while hundreds of police were being rushed from all the lower precincts of the city to form lines, and many priests from near-by parishes were going here and there in the smoke-obscured thoroughfares, seeking for injured who might need their aid.
The second explosion carried destruction in every direction. Just after the outbreak of fire from the windows of the building a downtown bound train stopped at Warren street station of the Ninth Avenue Elevated road. It passed on in time to escape the explosion. The explosion completely carried away the station, and the mass of masonry that fell with it broke through the flooring and almost demolished the structure just below the building.
Immense masses of masonry, pieces of cornice, great beams, window casings and an indescribable mass of wreckage of every description tumbled suddenly into the street in front of the building all at once.
The wreckage was thrown across the windows of the building in which the Irving National Bank is on the north east corner of the streets. The officer of the Irving Bank and of Mecklem Brothers, bankers and brokers, were nearly wrecked.
Captain McCLUSKY, of the detective Bureau, was appealed to to[sic] protect the funds of the bank, he being told that they were in the vault, the door of which was supposed to be unlocked. When the Captain and his en went in however, they found about $10,000 scattered in confusion over counters and floors. This was hastily thrown into the vault and the door locked.
Down in Mecklem Brothers' offices in the basement, when the fire broke out, $90,000 in money lay upon the counters. A boy named HECKENBERRY was stationed at the door while this was gathered together for putting in the vault.
The first explosion filled the place with sulphurous smoke that nearly asphyxiated everybody. The second explosion blew in the windows and cut the two MECKLEMS seriously. The boy HECKENBERRY found the two girl clerks lying in a heap, fainted away. He carried them out to a place of safety.
A barber shop in the same building was demolished, the barbers and two customers that were being shaved were driven to the street. The other tenants of the building, a number of lawyers and brokers, all escaped injury.
The explosion completely demolished windows along Greenwich street on both sides for three blocks in both directions. The street was covered with fine bits of glass.
The explosion was supposedly caused by naphtha. In the great confusion that existed it was impossible to find any person who could give the slightest detail regarding the work that was being done at the time the calamity occurred and the possible cause other than the escape of naphtha gas.
The whole lower part of the city felt the shock and streets for blocks leading to the scene were strewn with glass from windows and doors, whose empty frames told of the force of the quakes.

The Cranbury Press New Jersey 1900-11-02
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Researched and Transcribed by Stu Beitler. Thank you, Stu!

Re: New York, NY Tarrant & Co Drug House Explosion, Nov 1900

Posted: 7 May 2009 9:37PM GMT
Classification: Query
articles attached
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Re: Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 7 May 2009 9:52PM GMT
Classification: Query
It would appear that there are 2 sets of "Coroner" records for the city - the one that is repeatedly being mentioned as being in Queens, and the one identified on the City's website:

CORONER AND OFFICE OF CHIEF MEDICAL EXAMINER, 1823-1946

Inquests, records of death.

Comparing a coroner record from 1771 with one after 1918 provides a vivid example of advances in forensic medicine. Early coroner verdicts were educated guesses at best, and sometimes truly inscrutable. On April 19, 1771, City Coroner Thomas Shreve invoiced the Common Council £66 for performing 20 inquisitions over the previous year. He listed each deceased person and the verdict on the invoice. For one of the deceased, Mr. Samuel Belknap, "a prisoner confined in jail" Shreve decided he had died by "the hand of God." (Common Council collection 1771)

COLLECTION STATUS:

There are three series of coroner records:

1. Inquests, 1823-1898. Dr. Kenneth Scott prepared an index of over 5,000 names listed on the inquest documents dating from 1823 through 1842. [Kenneth Scott: Coroners' Reports New York City, 1823-1842, Collections of the New York Genealogical and Biographical Society, Volume XII, 1989]. The entire "inquest" series is microfilmed; however it should be noted that towards the latter part of this series, only inquests pertaining to homicides were saved.

2. Ledger books: Record of deaths listed by the Coroner in ledger-style volumes (the information recorded about each death is similar to the information reported on the Health Department death certificate). The ledgers have been microfilmed; Manhattan, 1896-1898; 1915-1917; Brooklyn, 1898-1917.

3. Office of Chief Medical Examiner Death records, 1918-1946.
Researchers may request copies of the death records filed by the Office of the Chief Medical Examiner from 1918 through 1946. Click here to download the search request form. This form is in PDF Format.

See http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/collections/collections...

These are the records to which I referred in my earlier post. I do not know if they are a subset of the Queens records or something entirely different.

Good Luck!

Lynn

Re: New York, NY Tarrant & Co Drug House Explosion, Nov 1900

Posted: 7 May 2009 9:54PM GMT
Classification: Query
some names of missing or dead
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Re: Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 8 May 2009 12:05AM GMT
Classification: Query
If I read this right though they do not include the years of 1900-1903 in Manhattan?

Re: Coroner's Records for New York City circa:1900 Albert Haas

Posted: 8 May 2009 2:58AM GMT
Classification: Query
That's certainly how I read it. But if you check BobNY's reply, those years appear to be covered by the FHL/Queens films.

Lynn
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