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William CUMMINGS born Durham England about 1833

wimbush2  (View posts) Posted: 23 Jun 2009 2:34AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: CUMMINGS , Short
HI,
Im looking for any information about the Cummings family. I have a birth cert of a family member in Vic Australia, that list father as William Cummings born Durham England about 1833. His parents are listed as George and Isabella Short on his death information.
He came to Vic before 1864 as he married.

I have no other info

thanks
wendy

Re: William CUMMINGS born Durham England about 1833

BryanHoggarth  (View posts) Posted: 24 Jun 2009 1:27PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Hi Wendy
I did a bit of searching as shown below. My guess is the people I have been looking at are probably not the ones you are after.
Bryan
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If this is the same William as was with Isabella in 1851 then it shows that it is not the one who emigrated before 1864. .
1871 census Rg10-4962 Folio 129, 27 New Elvet , DUR
William CUMMINGS Head Mar 38 Grocer emply. 2 boys Durham
Elizabeth do Wife Mar 28 DUR Sunderland
William do Son 4 Durham
George do son 4 Durham

1861 census Rg09-3745 Folio 24, Oak Tree, High Street, Sherburn Hill, DUR
Isabella CUMMINGS Head Widow 64 Grocer & Inn Keeper DUR Pelton or Felton

1851 census Ho107-2391 Folio 323, Sherburn Hill, DUR
Isabella CUMMINGS Head Widow 53 Grocer DUR Pilton
Ann do Daur U 20 Dress maker & Milner DUR Birtley
William do Son U 18 Scholar DUR New Lambton
George do Son U 12 Scholar DUR Kelloe
Isabella HEWITSON Niece U 12 DUR Sherburn Hill
Ann ADAMSON Servant U 15 Servant DUR Sherburn Hill

Cannot find the family in 1841.

In FreeBMD the birth of George age 12 in 1851 may be :
Jun qtr 1838 George Fawcett CUMMINGS Durham district 24 78
Dec qtr 1838 George CUMMINGS Durham District 24 62

FreeBMD has a death Sep qtr 1838 George Fawcett CUMMINGS Durham district 24 49 so that is probably the child born above and would rule him out as being the one with Isabella in 1851. There are several possible deaths of the father George CUMMINGS up to 1851.

Family search has a marriage of George CUMMINGS to Isabella HORSEFIELD 7 Apr 1827 at Chester le Street, DUR, batch M000582. This might be the Isabella who was a widow in 1851 which poses a problem. Possibly Isabella was married before she married George or this is a different Isabella and George.

FreeBMD has death Dec qtr 1871 Isabella CUMMINGS age 74 Houghton le Spring district 10a 317.
I could not find her in the 1871 census.

Re: William CUMMINGS born Durham England about 1833

wimbush2  (View posts) Posted: 25 Jun 2009 12:21AM GMT
Classification: Query
HI, thanks for that info! I wonder why we cant find them in 1841 im thinking there name migt be spelt diff??

Not sure about what happen to son George i have found a george going to vic in 1857 age 18 which makes him born 1839? He could of followed his brother as i cant find him after 1851

I thought Isabella may of married before she married george not sure ive been on the durhamrecordsonline to try to find more

wendy

Re: William CUMMINGS born Durham England about 1833

crusoe123  (View posts) Posted: 25 Jun 2009 3:08AM GMT
Classification: Census
The Isabella Cummings, for which Bryan found the death, is listed on the 1871 census, her name has been wrongly transcribed.

Resident at Rainton Gate Houses, Edward is a Grocer, and Mother in law Isabella Cummings, wrongly transcribed as Cunnings, was formerly a grocer.

Edward Welsh abt 1824 West Rainton, Durham, England Head West Rainton, Durham
Ann Welsh
abt 1831 Chester-Le-Street, Durham, England Wife West Rainton, Durham
Dorothy Mar Welsh abt 1853 Sherburn Hill, Durham, England Daughter West Rainton, Durham
Isabell Frances Welsh abt 1856 Sherlin Hill, Durham, England Daughter West Rainton, Durham
Elizbeth Enoly Welsh abt 1860 Rainton Gate, Durham, England Daughter West Rainton, Durham
Mary Allice Welsh abt 1864 Rainton Gate, Durham, England Daughter West Rainton, Durham
Edwd Alf Fred Welsh abt 1870 Rainton Gate, Durham, England Son West Rainton, Durham
Isabella Cunnings abt 1797 Chester-Le-Street, Durham, England Mother-in-law West Rainton, Durham
Mary Scot abt 1846 Lancashire, Pt Hause, Durham, England Servant West Rainton, Durham
Marget Bradly abt 1855 Fatfield, Durham, England Servant West Rainton, Durham


Re: William CUMMINGS born Durham England about 1833

wimbush2  (View posts) Posted: 25 Jun 2009 3:36AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi, just looked up some info on the free cen, the 1871 cen was taken in april so Isabella Cummings would of still be alive as the freebmd says dec 1871 age 74 which would of made her born about 1797, so i think it is her. Least i now know George didnt go to aust in 1857 now need to find more on him, i also think he ahd a sister frances born 1828 not sure what happened to her?

Re: William CUMMINGS born Durham England about 1833

schilver  (View posts) Posted: 14 Aug 2009 9:27AM GMT
Classification: Query
This is probably a different person as it contradicts what others have said but there are a few coincidences. On my line I have a William Cummings born 15 Aug 1830 in Houghton Le Spring in Durham, he emigrated to Australia on the 4th Oct 1855 his wife Elizabeth Holt arriving a year later, apparently they lived around the gold fields of Ballarat, I know they had at least 2 children Mark and Margaret. If this is familiar send me a message as if this is you link I have a vast amount of info about Cummings and goings in Durham :)

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