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Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 10 Mar 2008 10:05PM GMT
Classification: Lookup
I would be grateful if someone could look up passenger lists for the following as I can't find any trace.

Richard Geen b1836 married Jane Holland b1835 in 1863 in Barnstable Devon. They then went at some point to USA and had a daughter Lily Geen b1867 and a son John Geen b1871. They then returned to Bideford Devon and had another daughter Annie b1873.

I can find Lily in the 1891 and 1901 census after she married Edward Collyer in 1884 where it does say she was born in the USA.

Thanks

If any one can spare the time I would be grateful for any information on their journey to and from the USA.

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 11 Mar 2008 8:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello

just a thought, if dad was in the Army/Navy, there would not likely be a passenger list

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 12 Mar 2008 8:10AM GMT
Classification: Query
Do you know where I could check if he was in the navy/army?

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 12 Mar 2008 9:06AM GMT
Classification: Query
me again

1st & formost, have you found him in any/all the census?
Do you have a copy of his marriage certificate?
do you have any of their children's birth certificates?
Where was he from? and Jane?

if not, I assume your line is from Lily - do you have her marriage certificate?

As the name Green is not unusual, need to pinpoint more

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 12 Mar 2008 8:43PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

My line is through Lily she would be my great grand mother.

I have her marraige certificate which shows she married in 1884 in Winkleigh Devon. I also have Lily's death Certificate she died in Victoria Australia and it confirms her maiden name which is GEEN not Green - to begin with I was searching for Green!It shows her parents names Richard and Jane Geen nee Holland and that she was born in america does not say where which not helpful!

Its just so frustrating when you are unable to find anything and just keep going round and round in circles.

Janes is from Marainsleigh Devon UK.

I thought also it would help narrow the search being a bit unusual their surname Geen.

Karen

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 12 Mar 2008 8:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

My line is through Lily she would be my great grand mother.

I have her marraige certificate which shows she married in 1884 in Winkleigh Devon. I also have Lily's death Certificate she died in Victoria Australia and it confirms her maiden name which is GEEN not Green - to begin with I was searching for Green!It shows her parents names Richard and Jane Geen nee Holland and that she was born in america does not say where which not helpful!

Its just so frustrating when you are unable to find anything and just keep going round and round in circles.

Janes is from Marainsleigh Devon UK.

I thought also it would help narrow the search being a bit unusual their surname Geen.

Karen

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 12 Mar 2008 8:45PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hi

My line is through Lily she would be my great grand mother.

I have her marraige certificate which shows she married in 1884 in Winkleigh Devon. I also have Lily's death Certificate she died in Victoria Australia and it confirms her maiden name which is GEEN not Green - to begin with I was searching for Green!It shows her parents names Richard and Jane Geen nee Holland and that she was born in america does not say where which not helpful!

Its just so frustrating when you are unable to find anything and just keep going round and round in circles.

Janes is from Marainsleigh Devon UK.

I thought also it would help narrow the search being a bit unusual their surname Geen.

Karen

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 12 Mar 2008 11:39PM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: geen, collyer
Ok

The marriage states:

Marriages Dec 1884
Geen Lily Evelyn
to
Collyer Edward
South Molton, Devon (covers Warkleigh)
5b
818a

(every little bit of info helps!)

1891
Edward Collyer 31 Coach Man (Groom) born: Fench Hampstead, Berkshire
Lily E Collyer 26 born: United States
Edward Collyer 5 born: Kings ....ston, Devon
Winifred G Collyer 3 born: Crawley, Sussex
Alfred R Collyer 1 born Rickmansworth, Herts
IN 2 Pullings Pit, Rickmansworth, Herts

mmmmmmm I wonder:

1871
GEEN, John T Head 40 a Watchmaker born Devon
GEEN, Jane Wife 41 Devon
GEEN, Elizabeth Daughter 17 Devon
GEEN, Grace A Daughter 12 Dorset
GEEN, Lilly Daughter 11 Dorset
GEEN, Minnie Daughter 9 Surrey
GEEN, Rose Daughter 6 Surrey
GEEN, John Wm Son 0 Surrey
in Albion Terrace, High Street, Epsom, Surrey

1881
gEEN, John 50 Watch Maker Barnstaple, Devon
GEEN, Jane Wife 51 Barnstaple Devon
GEEN, Grace Daughter Single F 22 Laundress Shaftesbury
Dorset
GEEN, Rose Daughter Single F 16 Dressmaker Epson
Surrey
in 488 Holloway Rd, Islington

just keeping this one on the back burner for the mo whilst ask, what is her father's name & occupation on the marriage certificate please

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 13 Mar 2008 7:30AM GMT
Classification: Query
On Lily's birth and death certificate it says Father's name: Richard Geen Occupation: Husbandman

Re: Help Please with Passenger Lists

Posted: 15 Mar 2008 4:18PM GMT
Classification: Census
Surnames: geen, davis
Okey Poke:

1891
Thomas Davis 63 Army Pensioner born Swansea, Glamorganshire
wife
Jane Davis 56 born: Maryansleigh, Devon
(Now, it states Son & Daughter In Law - this term was often used for Step children as, I believe these are):
Annie Geen 18 Domestic born: South Molton, Devon
John Geen 20 Farm Servant born: United States
boarder:
Royden Parkhouse 11mths
in Langridgeford, Atherington, Devon

So mum was either living with this chap or married him - him being an Army pensioner re-inforces my belief that dad was in the Army also

Cannot find a birth for either Lily or John in Military records

back in a mo having problems with connection
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