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Harvey Murrell

Randy (View posts)
Posted: 4 Aug 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Murrell
I am trying to locate information on one Harvey Murrell. He was born in Hawkins Co. sometime in 1854. The only info i have regarding him concerns his time serving in the Civil War. He enlisted Sept. 17, 1863 in "L" Company of the 8th TN Cavalry. He deserted Dec. 17, 1864 and was returned May 5, 1865. Any information on his parents, siblings or wife would be greatly appreciated.

Randy

Harvey Murrell

Randy (View posts)
Posted: 8 Aug 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Murrell
Linda,
Thanks for the information. The info I had pertaining to him deserting came from military records I found in the Library at Rogersville...Anyway, what I am trying to do is see if this Harvey Murrell somehow ties into James Murrell. James married Nancy Williams alias Nancy Lawson, they had seven children but I do not know the names of those children. My line of Murrells starts with Aytchera Murrell d/o James Murrell. However we know that Nancy left James and he was married at least once more. If you have any info that connect Harvey and James, or just know anything about James' first set of children I would appreciate any you would be willing to share. I have some info on James' children from another wife that I would be willing to share with you if you would like it.

Thanks,
Randy

Harvey Murrell

Posted: 8 Aug 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 3 Oct 2001 2:52AM GMT
Surnames: Murrell
Harvey G. Murrell was born in Lee Valley, Tn.-Feb. 14,1846 and died Jan.25 1924.He was the son of Pleasant and Susan Trent Murrell.He was m. three times. 1st to Jane Lawson they had ch:Alice,Molly,Piney,Malvina,Eliza Jane,Lilly Lee,Marena,Martha Jane and William L.The 2nd marriage was to Margaret Ferrell and 3rd wife was Martilia Lawson.If this is the correct Harvey Murrell he enlisted in the Union Army Sept. 17 1863 and was dishcharged Sept 11 1865.Do not think he deserted.He was a Baptist preacher for 32 yrs.I have more info on his decendents if you want it.My info came from other Murrell researchers.His pension papers are available and he is also mentioned in the book,Hancock Co.Tn.and It's People,available in Sneedville at the Hancock Co. court house.
Linda

Harvey Murrell

Randy (View posts)
Posted: 9 Aug 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Murrell
Linda,
Thanks for the info. I have the information that you spoke about, just can seem to find the children from his first marriage. I appreciate it and if you find or hear anything I would appreciate you letting me know, as I will do for you.

Thanks,
Randy

Harvey Murrell

Posted: 9 Aug 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 3 Oct 2001 2:52AM GMT
Surnames: Murrell
Randy,
I am a decendant of (Joel) or Joseph Murrell brother of Harvey G. I do not know who their fathers' parents were.Wish somebody out there knew for sure. James shows up in the Hancock Co.(do not know yr.) census married to Barbery with his children in the household.Check TNGen GenForum Forum Finder for the Murrell Family Geneology Forum. There are a couple of people under Murrells of Hawkins Co.researching these folks. The book Hancock Co. and its people is also at the library in Rogersville and I think James is mentioned in it also.I hope I helped. Also I left out Simpson Franklin being one of Harvey and Jane Murrells ch.
Linda

Posted: 27 Dec 1999 12:00PM GMT
Classification: Query
Edited: 11 Jul 2001 4:37PM GMT
Linda
My line is through the brother of Harvey and Joel, James Orville.
James Orville's father was Pleasant b 1823/25. He was married (1)Susan Trent (2) Elizabeth Lawson. Susan was the mother of James Orville, Harvey and Joel. I got this information from census records and the periodical "Distant Crossroads".
James Orville was married (1) Martha Cobb (2) Amanda Lawson

Linda Waner

Re: Murrell

Posted: 29 May 2007 7:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello,
I have narrowed my ancestry through James Orville Murrell. Can you help me? Maybe you can help my confusion..

Re: Murrell

Posted: 31 May 2007 1:07AM GMT
Classification: Query
Hello, Cousin-

I am from Harvey G. MURRELL and Jane LAWSON, through their daughter Lillie MURRELL. I have SO much information on the MURRELLS but I'm not sure how to get it to you. I have a Morman genealogy program and for some reason I lost the function to copy and paste. I want to send what I have on James Orville MURRELL. Let's see what I can do...

Looks like I'm going to have to "hand type" it to you:

Credit to Dr. David Jones for many of these wonderful notes....Sam Lawson



James Orville MURRELL and my Harvey G. MURRELL were sons of Pleasant G. MURRELL and Susan TRENT( Susan TRENT was a daughter of James Osborne TRENT and Elizabeth JOHNSON).



James Orville Murrell and Martha Amanda Cobb were married by John E.

Starnes, Esq. After their divorce he remarried to Amanda Lawson, a daughter of

Banks and Thersey (Parvin/Pervin) Lawson, in 1866. They were married by the

Rev. Iredell Campbell Brown on 23 February, 1866, in Hawkins County, Tenn.

In later years the Murrells lived near one another. Harvey and Martelia

lived in Murrelltown in Hawkins County, Tennessee, with daughters, Amanda and

Piney. Bill and Simp had homes next to each other on the other side of the

valley. This valley ran into Pumpkin Valley at the Pond Hill Church. James

Orville Murrell and wife, Amanda, lived a short way down Pumpkin Valley around

Cobb's Chapel Church, and Simpson P. Murrell, their half-brother, lived in the

same area. William Murrell, James and Harvey's brother, evidently lived at the

other end of Pumpkin Valley around the Big Hill Farm where the Murrell Cemetery

is located. From what I can find out Pleasant G. Murrell left his sons land

around the Big Hill Farm, but Harvey, James, and Simpson P. Murrell sold theirs

and moved to the other end of the valley.



HAWKINS COUNTY DEED RECORD- BOOK 34, PAGE 87

Registered August 4, 1884 at 2 1/2 P.M.

19th District for $470.00 for land on north side of Pine Ridge, 75 acres

more or less.


Beginning on the top of Pine Ridge on a Chestnut Oak and Black Gum at

Harvey Murrell's corner, thence westerly down the said ridge to a hickory

and water oak, thence northerly with a marked line to the top of the

middle ridge to two chestnut oaks, thence easterly with the top of said

ridge to two black gums, thence southerly with Harvey Murrell line back

to the beginning.

Witnesses: H.G. Murrell

J.A. Byrd



James Orville Murrell served in the War Between The States. He enlisted

at Camp Nelson, Kentucky on 17 September, 1863 as a private in Captain Harbert

Rogers' L Company, 8th Regiment of Tennessee Cavalry Volunteers. He was

discharged at Knoxville, Knox County, Tennessee on 11 September, 1865. His

pension application describes him as being 5' 10" tall, with fair complexion,

with blue eyes and dark hair. He was a farmer by trade. He states in his

application that his place of residence has been at Lee Valley in Hawkins

County, Tennessee except for seven years when he lived at Thorn Field, Missouri

and Burnum, Missouri from 1892 to 1899. He was a pensioner under certificate#

270103.

James Orville Murrell was divorced from his first wife, Martha Amanda Cobb, on

2 February, 1866 by the Circuit Court Of Hawkins County, Tennessee.

1910 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census

AGE SEX BORN FBORN MBORN #MD #YRSPRSTMAR

Murrell, Orville 64 M Tenn Tenn Tenn 1 4 YEARS

" , Manda 66 F Tenn Tenn Tenn (13 child, 7 living)

" , Lizzie 35dauF Tenn Tenn Tenn (4 child, 3 living)

" , Alice 3 F Kans Tenn Tenn (Grand Daughter)

1880 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census

Dwelling# 241, Family# 243 Age Sex Born Occupation Fborn Mborn

Murrell, Orville 34 M Tenn Farmer Tenn Tenn

" , Amanda 35 F Tenn Wife NC NC

" , Marilla 13 F Tenn Dau

" , Palestine 11 M Tenn Son

" , Dalzell 9 M Tenn Son

" , Pleasant 7 M Tenn Son

" , James 5 M Tenn Son

" , Elizabeth 3 F Tenn Dau

Murrell, James O.

Confederate

Infantry

43rd Regiment, Tennessee Infantry (Company E)


Murrell, James O.

Union

Cavalry

8th Regiment, Tennessee Cavalry (Company L)






Vicksburg Parole Record MURRELL, JAMES O PVT 43RD TN INF Co. E FIELD

Pleasant G. Murrell and family lived close to Jesse Burton (or Trent,

whichever name they were going by "that" week) and wife, Elizabeth, in 1850.

Jesse had some children that have not been accounted for- The late Earl E. Cole of

Knoxville, Tennessee thought Pleasant's wife, Susan Trent, was a daughter of

Jesse Trent...no proof, though. NOTE by Sam LAWSON, May 30, 2007, this has been proven false! Susan TRENT was the daughter of James Osborne TRENT and Elizabeth JOHNSON.

William G. TRENT was a witness for James Orville MURRELL when James applied for

a pension for Civil War service. In that statement he made for James Orville

MURRELL, William G. TRENT states that, "James Orville MURRELL was my sister's

child". William G. TRENT was the son of James Osborne and Elizabeth (JOHNSON)

TRENT, so Susan would have been their daughter.

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One implication of this is that William Burton (married to Lucinda Murrell) and

Susan Trent (married to Pleasant G. Murrell) were first cousins (or half first

cousins). Lucinda Murrell was also the aunt of Pleasant G. Murrell. So,

William Burton was the first cousin and uncle in law of Susan TRENT.





1842-Pleasant G. Murrell and Susan Trent are married.

1850-Hawkins County Census-Pleasant is listed with wife, Susan, and four

children, three boys and one girl, living in District# 2, on 100 acres, near

his grandfather, Joel Cobb.

1854-23 January, 1854 Deed was registered in Hawkins County, Tennessee

Courthouse between Pleasant G. Murrell and Joel Cobb, whereby Pleasant is

paying $150.00 for the 100 acres of land. Joel Cobb would have been 76 years

old at this time.

1855-Pleasant is married to Elizabeth Lawson, daughter of Peter and

Susan (Bloomer) Lawson.

1860-Hawkins County Census-Pleasant, his wife, Elizabeth, and six

children are listed.

1861-The Will of Joel Cobb, dated 18 February, 1861 and proven April,

1861 mentions his children and Pleasant G. Murrell, and grandaughter, Polly

Frazier.

This is all I have picked up for Pleasant G. Murrell, which does not look

like much when presented as above. I do not have the actual copy of Joel's

Will, have been using the copy by DISTANT CROSSROADS staff in their Will Book

I-II, 1786-1886.



While I do not have any information that specifically indicates that

William Murrell is the father of Pleasant, I think with the information given

Steve MURRELL matching information given by Louisa Ann Murrell Carter,

daughter of William and Frances, to descendants in Wright County, Missouri,

also the fact that Joel Cobb mentions only those two grandchildren in his Will,

seems to me that they were very special to him, and I am inclined to believe

the possibility. If we can locate an obituary for Pleasant, would probably be

the only thing left that might prove.(From Lila Kroeker)

Sources are: 1850, 1860, and 1880 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census

Records, 1855 Hawkins County, Tennessee Marriage Records, Harrison Funeral Home

Records (DISTANT CROSSROADS-Volume IX, July 1992), Deed transferring 100 acres in Hawkins County, Tennessee from Joel Cobb to Pleasant G. Murrell on 23

January, 1854, Will of Joel Cobb dated 1861, Descendants currently researching

Pleasant G Murrell are:

Linda S. Waner Sam D. Lawson

219 North Kimball #2 1929 Hiker Trace

Caldwell, Idaho 83605 Columbus, Indiana 47203-3541

1850 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census:

Murrell, Pleasant G. age 29 Male Tenn farmer $100

Susan 27 Female Tenn

Harvey 8 Male Tenn

Orville 6 Male Tenn

Amanda 4 Female Tenn

William 2 Male Tenn

HAWKINS COUNTY DEED RECORD- BOOK 22, PAGE 16

Joel Cobb to Pleasant G. Murrell

Registered January 23, 1854 at 3 P.M.

$150.00 for about 100 acres in Hawkins County, District# 2.

Joining the lands of Vance Gonce, Larkin Willis, and others.

HAWKINS COUNTY DEED RECORD- BOOK 35, PAGE 90

P.G. Murrell and wife to Trustees of Cobb's Chapel

Registered April 16, 1886 at 4 1/2 P.M.

For the sum of $1.00 in the 19th Civil District where this Cobb's Chapel

now stands. Beginning on a large rock about forty yards south of the house.

Thence east 16 2/3 poles to a rock, thence north to the public road. Thence

west with this road twenty poles to a stake. Thence southwardly twelve poles to

the beginning, containing one-half acre.

Attested to John Mallett (his mark) P.G. Murrell (his mark)

Simpson Murrell (his mark) Elizabeth Murrell (her mark)

W.E. Byrd

R.C. Tole

HAWKINS COUNTY DEED RECORD- BOOK 39, PAGE 190

P.G. Murrell and wife to Simpson Murrell

Registered March 7th, 1893 at 10 A.M.

Land along Pine Ridge for $100.00 (April 12, 1882)

HAWKINS COUNTY DEED RECORD- BOOK 39, PAGE 191

H.G. Murrell and wife, Jane

Joel Murrell and wife, Martha to Simpson Murrell

James O. Murrell and wife, Amanda

Registered March 7th, 1893 at 10 A.M.

The barn of P.G. Murrell (deceased at this time) for $17.00.

(February 22, 1892)

1870 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census, Lee Valley

SEX AGE BORN

MALLETT, John M 22 Tenn

" , Elizabeth F 22 Tenn

MURRELL, Pleasant M 46 Tenn

" , Eliza F 35 Tenn

" , Simpson M 13 Tenn

" , Alice F Tenn

" , Harvey M 22 Tenn

" , Joel M 18 Tenn

The Richardson's Creek Church Records state that Pleasant G. Murrell was

discharged on 3 May, 1880.

In 1860 Pleasant G. Murrell and his family were living with the family of

Thomas and Emma Lawson. On the 1860 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census lists them

in Dwelling# 810, Family# 797:

AGE SEX BORN OCCUP.

Lawson, Thomas 38 M Farm Labourer

" , Emma 28 F

" , Sarah 17 F Domestic

" , Mary 16 F

" , Jane 6 F

" , Matilda 3 F

" , Cornelia 1 F

" , Vian 8 F

Murrell, Pleasant 35 M Tenn Farmer

" , Elizabeth 30 F Tenn

" , Manda J. 17 F Domestic

" , James O. 14 M

" , Mary J. 13 F

" , William 9 M

" , Joel 7 M

" , Simpson 4 M

MINUTE BOOK- Page 349, BOOK 5-

Court Order, 7 January, 1880- Newton Lawson, William A. Cobb, Joel

Murrell, J.M. Davis, Matterson Manis, G.C. Davis, and F.W. Stapleton be and

they are hereby appointed a jury of view to go upon Pumpkin Valley Road from

the Forks Road near P.G. Murrell wife, the valley to intersect the road near

Joseph Rogers Mill.

>From TENNESSEE MARRIAGE RECORDS, Vol. 2, Hawkins County, Tennessee

1789-1865, Prentiss Price



Lawson, Elizabeth to Pleasant G. Murrell, 5 March, 1855

1880 Hawkins County, Tennessee Census

AGE SEX BORN OCCUPATION

MURRELL, Pleasant 57 M Tenn Farmer

" , Betsy 45 F Tenn wife

" , Alice 14 F Tenn daughter

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Sam,

I have been looking at deeds. One of the mysteries that I have been trying to

figure out is why Thomas Lawson Jr and Pleasant G. Murrell were living together

in 1860 Hawkins County. The deeds that I have looked at lead me to believe

that Pleasant G. Murrell married Peter Lawson's daughter Elizabeth and not

Banks Lawson's Elizabeth. In a February 1856 transfer of 200 acres of property

by Peter Lawson to his daughter Elizabeth, Thomas Lawson was a witness. Four

years later was find Pleasant G. Murrell and new wife Elizabeth living with

Thomas Lawson Jr. Elizabeth's age is very close to that of 1850 Elizabeth,

daughter of Peter Lawson, but is too old to be Bank's daughter. I know that

the traditional marriage partner of Pleasant G. Murrell is Banks' daughter, but

I can't find any document that supports it. I have always wonder why the

Murrells and (Thomas) Lawson's picked up and moved to MO. I think this binds

the two families together in a much stronger manner, and eliminates the first

cousin marriage problem of Ambrose's son Joel and Thomas Lawson's daughter

Angeline. And there is no problem with Thomas Lawson daughter Vina marrying

Pleasant G. Murrell's son William since they don't share any common parent.

The deeds also lead me to believe that Banks and Hennis didn't have any land.

I have multiple descriptions of land from about 1850 from those living around

Banks and Hennis, but they are never mentioned. For example, in the case of

Banks Lawson only the property of John Winstead is mentioned. So, I think

that the best explanation so far is that Banks was living on the Winstead

property since he was married to his daughter. The same kind of thing should

be true for Hennis. I am up to 1862 in the deeds now.

David

***************

There are some issues with Margaret Winstead. William Burton aka William Trent

(son or stepson of Samuel Trent aka Samuel Burton) married Lucinda Murrell,

daughter of James Murrell Sr. James Murrell Sr is known from court documents

to be the illegitimate son of William Martin. Margaret Winstead was William

Martin's daughter. So, James Murrell and Margaret Winstead were half siblings.

William Murrell, son of James Murrell Sr, married two of Joel Cobb's

daughters. One son of William Murrell was Pleasant G. Murrell who first

married Susan Trent, daughter of James Burton Trent. So, this is why Scott

Trent and I are having these discussions. It is a tough nut to crack. It

appears (to me) that anyone descended from Pleasant G. Murrell was really a

Martin and Burton descendent instead of a Murrell and Trent descendent. But,

there are lots of unknowns yet.

David

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One implication of this is that William Burton (married to Lucinda Murrell) and

Susan Trent (married to Pleasant G. Murrell) were first cousins (or half first

cousins). Lucinda Murrell was also the aunt of Pleasant G. Murrell. So,

William Burton was the first cousin and uncle in law of Susan Trent.

************

David

*********

One other thing that I have recently discovered is that Pleasant G. Murrell

likely married Peter Lawson's daughter Elizabeth. Alfred C. Lawson secured the

marriage bond for them, and Thomas Lawson was living with Pleasant G. Murrell

in 1860. Thomas Lawson was Elizabeth's uncle. Some court and deed records

suggest that Anderson Lawson was the brother of Peter and Thomas Lawson. The

records also suggest that Russell Lawson was the son of Peter Lawson and thus

the brother of Elizabeth Lawson. That explains the Harmon and Allen/Alum names.

David

Re: Murrell

Posted: 1 Jun 2007 2:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Murrell
Which of his children are your descended from? James Orville Murrell was in Howell County, MO in 1900. We have been trying to track down descendents of his sons Palestine and Dalzell, some of whom moved west after 1900. Do you have any information about them? I have traced some of them through 1930.

David

Re: Harvey Murrell

Posted: 16 Jul 2007 8:40PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Harvey Murrell
I would like for you to send me the information that you have on Harvey Murrell. My family is from the Murrell/Ferrell split.
Thanks
Susan Klepper
sklepper@bellsouth.net
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