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old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Posted: 19 Mar 2001 7:40AM GMT
Edited: 26 Jun 2001 3:37PM GMT
Any connection to some of the mentioned Dormann's?. I have more details later. but for now I recall Heinrich as a mason or brick maker in Ill. and then he was in Iowa. Heinrich and Dorothea Seil Dorhman(n) had a daughter Alvina who was born in Joliet Ill. She married Frank Vogel and lived near Farnhamville. ( I think Greene co.) I have old church records of a few Dohrman involved in St. Peters church. Daisy Dorhman was with the music in one of my obituaries I have on my relatives.The were some of the earliest founders of the church.
A Dorhman and my relatives were to have came on same ship. one ship I know of came in 1884 the other not so sure of.

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Kathleen Vogel Thompson-Oelberg (View posts)
Posted: 20 May 2002 4:07PM GMT
Classification: Query
I am a great-grand daughter of Alvina Dohrmann and Frank Vogel. My grandfather was their son, Edwin Vogel, my father was Dean Lyle Vogel. I do not have any information on the Dohrmann family, I would sincerely love to find out more history and family information as well as photos!!!

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Meyer (View posts)
Posted: 21 May 2002 4:12PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Koch, winkelmann, Kothe, Meierhof,Winterhof, buhr, Hoopman, Habermann,Timme, Heins, Heinz, Henke, Arens, Hohls
Hi, I don't know if you know, but we corresponded before. Actually, I have been thinking of you. We have a lot of the same connections. Would you like to email me to my new email address. I tend to get wordy.
I don't have any Dohrmann information, either. I would like to know where they came from The Dorman that married Dorothy Seil and went to Joliet ILLn. They married in Hamburg. But did they live in Hamburg. Did they do so before departing and I wonder if there would be those police records that they have to have leaving there. I have been wondering also about the associations in Joliet ILLn. I didn't finnish looking up census in that area..
You don't have an old photo of them all outside a farm house with greens in it as well?. And another group pic of them close up at the day of anviersary of either volkmer or vogel.[ not sure at moment off hand.] I would be glad to send these copies that I obtained from your other relative. Tom Vogel of Iowa. The pics contain the persons of Annie Vogel and August Wilhlem Seil. I haven't identified any one else.
I haven't pursued this much; as have been investigating Bergen area of Germany for Heins ancestors. surnames found listed -as well as maybe's.
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Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Kathleen Vogel Thompson-Oelberg (View posts)
Posted: 21 May 2002 6:34PM GMT
Classification: Query
Yes, I do remember corresponding with you previously, now that you mention it!!! I do have a picture of the Frank Vogel Family from 1912 in front of the farmhouse that has the Dohrmanns and Vogels. I don't have anything with the Greens' however. All of the information that I have is from cousin Tom Vogel. The only other information I have is in the Vogel Family Geneology (the little green book) about the Dohrmanns coming to the US in 1870 from Hamburg. It says that both of Heinrich F. Dohrmann and Dorothea Seil were born in Hamburg, married Sept 1864 then came to Joliet, where Mr. Dohrmann worked int the stone quarry as a stone cutter until 1887 when they came to Farnhamville, IA. Alvena Dohrmann Vogel was born in Joliet, Il according to this blerb. Other than that information, I am clueless!!!!!! Nice to be able to chat with you again!

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Meyer (View posts)
Posted: 21 May 2002 7:29PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Meyer, Heins, Luhmann
I think that 1912 may be the same one. It had Beschnors [can't spell it]in it , I think. I also have one pic found that Tom may not have had and It has a couple that I think may have been in the other pics of this family. The guy always has hat down over his face. Can't see him. and his wife is very fancifuly dressed. My grandfather Herman Meyer is in that one. I am interested in having some of the people indentified in that one also. Because there is a short gentle man in the back with dark hair and looks like my eldest brother does now. It was taken about 1920 or 21 or so. Maybe in Iowa. It has Lilly carter in it about college age. and other people I do not know. It has a car in it. Sometimes internet sending can make the pics very small!!! but I could try. I'm not all that computer savy. with son by side I can accompolish a lot.

also, I had thught that since I found the Saucks or at least some of them to be from Nahrendorf and Oldendorf that I would find the Dorhmans. But not so. I did read www.dahlenburg.de and in there was a lot of history. It writes of this business agreement the Sauck and Meyer and two other families had. I don't know if they were the ones that pertained to our family. I suspect it may have.
Somewhere along the way Meyer and Saucke and Peterson and Dohrman hooked up. Perhaps when the Naefke's got into it too. But these Petersen and Mosel were from S Holstein. I know we talked of this before. but then they were all Prussian for so long and Boitzenburg was not that far.

When I was digging in Bergen; I found the Winterhof family were from Oldendorf. A Hein family was too. I will have to check the date on them. and The Buhr family was from Oldendorf. I am not sure if same Oldendorf as mine. Because all of a sudden there were no Heins of mine in Siddernhausen. Have you heard of any of those names in iowa area?
How about Priesmeyer?

also have you heard of any of the bunch marrying a native american. It is important. It could help me find my martin county relative. Schaumberger is one surname, and Hennis,Tatmun are some surnames in connection to him. Not just in Wells, Minn but in Watonwan county. There are many others.
By the way I did get a Meyer book. It is the same as the Meyer / Luhmann/ Heins on world connect, except more on World connect. Have you visited it?

glad to help in anyway.

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Kathleen Vogel Thompson-Oelberg (View posts)
Posted: 21 May 2002 8:20PM GMT
Classification: Query
I do not know of any native american connection. The Petersen, Meyer, Sauke, Seil, Dohrmanns all "hooked up" through the Vogel clan! Peter Petersen and Anna ? from S-Holstein had the following children that we know about. ANNA married Christian Horn. They lived in the Jefferson, Ia area. PETER married Katie Kruse. They lived in the Gooselake, Ia area. MARGARETHA b appx 1858 married Johann Meyer. His father is listed as Sou. Meyer and his mother is listed as Magdalena Mueller. They were married Oct 10 1884. MARIE married Carsten Nahnsen. CHRISTINE married Johann Andresen. Chrisines' daughter Matie married Edwin Vogel. Peters' son, Auguste married Mary Alliger. His daughter Alvena Married Johann Nahnsen. The Sauke connection: Heinrich Sauke married Maria Zeitz. Children of theirs married into Vogel family. I have some old church records from the Christ Lutheran Church in Churdan Iowa that lists marraiges, births, deaths and confirmations of a lot of these families. I also have a church record from St Peters(?) Lutheran Church, the one that the Dohrmanns were founding fathers of. This has in German, births, marraiges, deaths, confirmations. I have not heard of a Meyer book, you mentioned an internet connection for them. I have a lot of information on the Petersen family. I have none on the Meyer family, very little on the Sauke, Dohrmann, Nahnsen. Nothing on the other family surnames that you mention, I have not seen any of those names at all.

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Kathleen Vogel Thompson-Oelberg (View posts)
Posted: 21 May 2002 8:23PM GMT
Classification: Query
What is this site, www.dalenberg.de? Nothing exits with that website.

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Meyer (View posts)
Posted: 22 May 2002 2:45AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Heins, Meyer, Koch, Winkelman, Meyer, Hencke, Timme, Behren, Schultze,Luhmann, Reinecke,Meierhof, Hohls
i know. You did do dahlenburg with H though right? Yes I have gone into it with google and searched the chronicles and gotten that history as translation. and can't exit 'back' to google. I am not sure what one does ' backwards doesn't work. " x ' does doesn't it?
I did get wodage address from Jonas family member if you want it. I just haven't written to her yet.
Honest- not a trick! sorry. I have gotten a little history from some other surrounding bigger villages also.
I am quite interested in Schroeders. I would like to find out who Freds brothers and sisters were. But have no time yet.

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

meyer (View posts)
Posted: 22 May 2002 3:35AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Meyer, Luhmann, Schultze, Reinecke, Behrens, Timme, Hencke, Henke, Heinz, Heinz, Nahnsen, Seil
Well it really depends on how deep you want to dig into the family. Some people don't go past their direct line.
I was recently coresponding with Nahnsen on the board. And she is looking for all she can find on them. She is the one who told me a little about Mary Ellen Meyer marrying Elmer Nahnsen and who her father nand mother was . etc. She also brought up the Preis and the man named Frances Meyer. and this concerns Louise Preis. I had never heard of him.I wonder if there was ever a name change with the name Preismeyer.

I know all the others mixed and mingled. And if I learn about one family; I learn about so many of mine. That Sou. that is interesting? could be french or danish? or dutch? One wouldn't forget that one if one saw it before.
Courtesy of Tom and Merna Hanson of iowa, I also have the history of that church and members etc. Are your last pages a little destroyed. I wondered if it were just mine in reproduction or if all were like that.
The content of that Meyer book was put on the web site of roots web "World Connect" I'll see if I can find the web url for you. It lists names of all descendents of Meyers and the children etc and where they lived.
I have to admit that I did find Maria Dorothea Heinz parents and aunt and uncles and grand uncles and aunts and grandparents and haven't shared it with Kristy who puts everything on the web. That is where the surnames you saw came from.
I have seen some of those very names on World connect in connection to some of those Kannings. You know some of them involve a Meyer named Justine. I keep hoping I will find record of Maria or brothers and sisters so I can include this. But the meyer book surprised me it lists Her brother as Heinrich Heinz and his wife as Mrs Heinz and residence as Germany. His occupation was Beekeeper. Since Maria Dorothea married a Meyer; they do have some kind of significance to the Nahnsens. Unless she has aquierd excel to open the fileinvestigated the file I sent her, I doubt she has that on World Connect.much abut them.

About the surnames...
I have seen some of those very names on World connect posted in connection to some of those Kannings you are related to. You know some of them involve a Meyer named Justine.
Again, If I can help...

Re: old pics of Dohrman- of Greene and clayton co. Ia

Meyer (View posts)
Posted: 31 May 2004 4:26AM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: dohrman, tasler, vogel, carter, seil, jaeschke meyer
hi, I am again asking questions. The little green book of ours was the Meyer book by an edwards printing company. if i rember right. Were you refering to the greene county book. greenaple green.?
Before i forget I found a Seil family member of lemont illinois. The one with Schroeder. I don't know enough of the Dohrman Seil to ask her the right questions.
I have aquired more info on the original church members of the st peters church I have been . interested in mosel and lusman and schroeder, saucke. Naefke were they members. grote. gross, holm,walters and froelich all married too. and there were the other meyer as you mentioned.
When tom sent me those papers I did see the walters listed in the 16 histories that were there. But no Luhmann.
I have turned up some trees which do by my moment here is to mention the Luhmann family. It does seem the church members all married each others family members.
The luhmann and walters married. and walters were mixed in pretty good too. I have proof now that the fred and william were descendents in the lineage[ brother] of those who were ancestors of my meyer catharina margaretha Luhmann. Is there much in your documents that tie them to the others. A reseracher has found other surnames in Bleckede area where the Luhamnn family found. Meier and Grothe, Timm, Tippe, Jacob and Blanck. Steinbock,Koehnecke, Pagel and Schulz, Mueller. [ Margaret name present. michael was father]
It does seem like they were not present in many of the pictures etc.Their own families and their own lives. I thought the platt map showed them to be there very early. They had land next Farnhams.. You would think though that they would have been sponsers and such to some of the Meyer children.

I have a picture that Tom Vogel does not. I am wondering if it could be a Dohrman. It has these people that i know of for sure. lily meyer carter; too young to be married yet, [Her roomate Carter], grandfather, annie seil, Annie Vogel, william Seil, a male probably with annie vogel family. another male with light hair may have been a jaeschke. and another one with dark hair. A couple with an automobile. He hiding in his hat and the woman wearing a hat and very dressed to the nines It has occured to me that the tall gentleman could have been william meyer. However he was kind of short, I think. And then the one with the dark hair.... i just wonder if he could have been a dohrman. short and looks were simialar to my brother a meyer. I guess that is why I wonder so about who he is. On many pictures so many of them had those beards.
well I am chattering too much. but if you know of any pics like that i just described let me know.
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