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Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

dsegelquist  (View posts) Posted: 23 Aug 2003 5:06AM GMT
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These names are lost to history some were bad some good but all had family's some where.(Spring 1960 This for my info.)
1878. John F. Callaham-Hanged but was innocent.
1877. Geo. W. Wilson son broke jail.
1878. Deputy U.S. Marshall H.T. Mc Carty shot and killed.
1878. George Hoy shot by Dodge City Police.
1878. Fannie Keeman alias Dora hand short and killed.
1878. James Kennedy Murderer.
1879. B. Martin Killed.
1874. John Behrens deserter 4th. U.S.Cavalry.
1875. Wm. Potts arrested stealing Eight yoke.
1883. Charles Ellsworth known as (Arkansaw) Murderer.
1883. Ellsworth Suhuttleman Murdered.
1882.Brothers Steve and Jeff. Green Murders.
I don't have info on where they came from or their familys that's why their lost, but I do have a story for each name Good Luck

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

Jan Hoy  (View posts) Posted: 23 Aug 2003 6:21PM GMT
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I would be interested in knowing the story of George Hoy.
Thank you, Jan Hoy

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

dsegelquist  (View posts) Posted: 24 Aug 2003 8:35PM GMT
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Hi Jan here is your story: On July 26 1878 about 3 O'clock three or four herders were paying their respects to the city and instituions, and as is usually their custom, remained until about 3 O'clock in the morning,when they prepared to return to their camps. They bucked on their revolvers, which they were not allowed to wear around town,and mounted their horses when all at once one of them conceived the idea to do some shooting, and forth with he commenced to bang away. Policeman Earp and [James] Masterson made a raid on the shootist who gave them two or three volleys, but fortunately without effect, the policeman returned the fire and followed the herders with the intention of arresting them. The herders rode across the bridge followed by the officers. A few yards from the bridge one of the herders fell from his horse frome weakness caused by a wound in the arm which he had received during the fracas. The wound which proved to be a bad one,was dressed. His name is George Hoy, and he is rather an intelligent looking young man.
The Ford County Globe, August 21,1887:
On Wendnesday last, George Hoy,the young Texan who was wounded some weeks since in the midnight scrimmage, died from the effects of his wound. George was apparently rather a good young man,having those chivalrous qualities, so common to frontiersmen, well developed. He was, at the time of his death, under a bound of $1,500 for his appearance in Texas on account of some cattle scrape, wherein he was charged with aiding and assisting some other men in "rounding up" about 1,000 head of cattle which were claimed by other parties. He had many friends and no enemies among Texas men who knew him.George was nothing but a poor cow boy, but his brother cow-boys permitted him to want for nothing during his illness, and buried him in grand style when dead, which was very creditable to them. We have been informed by those who pretend to know, that the deceased, although under bond for a misdemeanor in Texas,was in no wise a criminal, and would have been released at the next setting of the court if he had not been removed by death from it's jurisdicton. "Let his faults,if he had any,be hidden in the grave."

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

Shirley Flanagan  (View posts) Posted: 3 Oct 2003 11:34PM GMT
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Hello, Thank you for your list ~ I would be interested in the story on McCarty. Thanks
P.S. Anywhere on your names would you happen to have "met" a Philip Wilcoks (Wilcox) who was supposed a U.S. Marshall in 1879. Thanks Again, Shirley

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

dsegelquist  (View posts) Posted: 4 Oct 2003 4:07PM GMT
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Hi Shirley I'm sorry I don't have a wilcox in my Info but if you would go to the U.S. Marshal board ask there a Mr. Robert Ernst he works for the U.S.Marshal Service he'll be happy to help.
On the story of McGrath it was to long to put it on the board but if you will send me your Mailing Add. I'ed be happy to send it. You can E. mail it to me if you don't have my E. go to old west and push on my name to get it. Dennis.

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

dsegelquist  (View posts) Posted: 5 Oct 2003 11:53PM GMT
Classification: Query
Shirly here is your story I don't need your Mail after all I was trying to give you the wrong Info on the wrong name Sorry.

June 6, 1873, The sheriff, Smith and Constable J.W. McCartney nabbed two mule thieves. The Wichita Eagle, June 12, 1873, reported:
Sheriff Meagher, Smith and Carty, who went after the theves who stole Mr.Wilkin's mules, returned on last Friday. They overtook the property and the "Larkies" at Eureka, Greenwood county. The names of these patrons of mule flesh are Francis M. Carson and John Jeffson. They were terribly afraid of being brought back to Wichita, asserting that they preferred to die right there. At a preliminary examination Carson plead guilty and they were bound over for an appearance at the district court of the above mentioned county. As Judge Campbell's court sits next week, these wayward boys will be pounding stone inside the penitentiary walls within two weeks

A week later McGartney and Smith again teamed up to arrest two suspected murderers. The Eagle June 26,1873

Mr. King and his son, from Texas, who were arrested here last week by Constable McCartney and Deputy Sheriff Smith for the killing of a man in Clay county, Texas, were dicharged by "Squire D.A. Mitchell upon the ground of self-defense.

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

dsegelquist  (View posts) Posted: 7 Oct 2003 4:56AM GMT
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On July 16 Harry T."Mac" McCarty had just come up the street and stepped into the long Branch Saloon. While he leaned on the bar talking to Mr.Jackson (the paper reports): " A half drunken desperado...snatched Mac's pistol, a 45 caliber Colt, from the scabbard, and as Mac turned to see who had so nimbly disarmed him,the assassin, giving the weapon a flourish or two, fired the fatal shot. The ball penetrated the right groin, severing the femoral artery, thence passing through the thigh lodged in the floor. The deceased staggered toward the door where he fell". McCarty died within a few minutes.

Re: Names (OLD WEST) Lost to History- Kansas

CandiceDDavis  (View posts) Posted: 23 Nov 2003 5:01AM GMT
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Surnames: Green/Davenport/Gholson/Ishmael/Rainey/Davis
I would like to get the 1882 Brothers Steve and Jeff. Green murders...if I can get them..I am looking for kin to Thomas and or Martin A Green. Thank You........

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