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Ford Mommaerts  (View posts) Posted: 18 Oct 2003 2:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Li, Liu, Yang, Dugu, Tsui, Zhao, Zhou, Wei, etc.
As per your kind request, I have tried to respond to you twice; BUT my messages are returned "permission denied".

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Subject: RE: Finding Chinese Information
Date: 10/18/2003 6:12:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time
From: smommaer@netscape.net (Ford Mommaerts-Browne)
To: lchow@lava.net


lchow@lava.net (Lester D. K. Chow and Associates) wrote:

>Who are you

I am a researcher who was just studying historically significant lines as a historian; but now I have linked my own lines to those that I had been researching. Also, I have been dubbed 'the father of DFA, (Descents from Antiquity, a term that I coined in the late eighties. It is a study that has brought in the Oriental links, mostly through marriages of the Sassanids of Persia.

>and why are you looking for this information?

The lineages that I have specified have European lines of descent. The T'ang is a bit confused - that is why I seek the information of Prominent princess marriages.

> Perhaps,
>I might be able to help. Also, I noticed that some of the
>information which you seek may have been lost with history.

Alas, yes. Nevertheless, one seeks, hoping against hope.

>Please
>write.

PS I should be happy to share what I have, that may be of interest to you.

>
>Lester D.K. Chow
>lchow@lava.net
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>From: smommaer@netscape.net
>Date: 15 Oct 2003 20:04:29 -0600
>Subject: [CHINA] Imperial lineages
>To: CHINA-L@rootsweb.com
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>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
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>Surnames: Liu, Li, Zhao, Wei, Ji, Zhou, Yang
>Classification: Query
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>Message Board URL:
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>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iRC.2ACE/538
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>Message Board Post:
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> I am looking for West-European-languge translations of the following imperial ancestors, (both male & female lines): Han, (Liu); Sui, (Yang); Tang, (Li), Sung, (Zhao); as well as the ruling lineages of the Warring States of Chi & Wei of Chin, + Chin, itself.
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> Also, I am seeking notices of any princesses, or royal ladies who made prominent marriages.
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>This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list.
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>Surnames: Dugu, (Tu-ku); Ts'ui, (Tsui)
>Classification: Query
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>Message Board URL:
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>http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/iRC.2ACE/539
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>Message Board Post:
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>I am seeking information on the Dugu clan of the Tobas, and on the Tsui family from Ch'ing-ho, (or Chanho?)

Re: à Lester D.K. Chow

Lester D.K. Chow  (View posts) Posted: 29 Dec 2003 4:49PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Chow, Chou, Zhou, Hsien Bei, Tuo Ba, and Aisin-Gioro
I am posting a reply to Ford Mommaerts's posting found in http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/mbexec/message/5538/localities....

Dear Ford and Readers of ancestry.co.uk,

1. I am sorry, if your letters to me kept bouncing. I am having some problems with my spamcatcher.

2. I am an American of Chinese ancestry located in Honolulu, Hawaii in the United States of America. If anyone is interested in family genealogy for descendants of China's Chou Dynasty, one source of information in my family's genealogy homepage at http://www.geocities.com/zhouclan/chia_pu.html. The Chou Dynasty is China's current Imperial family, which resides abroad, outside of China, in Hawaii, in the United States of America. The Chou Dynasty in Hawaii currently consist of approximately 70% of the main prince lineages of the Ch'ing Dynasty and 40-60% of the main lineages of the Ming Dynasty. All of these people have lived in America (Hawaii), now, for three generations or more and are loyal American citizens, holding a belief in democracy and Christianity. If you can not e-mail me, you can write by postal letter to: Chou Dynasty, P.O. Box 4604, Honolulu, Hawaii 96812. Send me your e-mail address for a return reply.

3. I am a descendant of many of China's great families and I am related to many famous lineages of China. If anyone is doing any serious history or genealogy research on these people or families, I would like to help or get involved. You may write to me by postal mail. Their names are given below:

Chou Dynasty and related family surnames of Chow (Chou, Zhou), Lum (Lin), Chang (Cheng), Goo (Ku), Wu (Wo, Woo), Ing (Ng), Ching (Cheng), Ho, Chiang, Mau (Mao), Choy (Tsai), Sun, Yap (Yip, Ye, Yeh), Wong (Wang), Lai, Kee (Ke), Kwock (Kwok, Kok, Kuo, Guo, Kop), Lau (Liu), Loui (Lui), Dang (Teng, Tang, Deng, Dung), Siu (Hsiu, Hsiao) and Young (Yang, Yong). Also, included: Chock (Cheuk, Cho), Tom (Tan, Tam) and Aisin-Gioro.

History and genealogy research on the Chou Dynasty, Northern Chou Dynasty, and Later Chou Dynasty.

History and genalogy research on the Ch'ing Dynasty.

The Chou lineage, which I am from are descendants of the migration to Taiyuan (around 300 BC) and Hsienbei ancestry (Northern Dynasties of the Tuoba clan 386 BC to 600 BC). My lineage can be traced to The Chou Dynasty, Northern Chou Dynasty, and Later Chou Dynasty.

I am part-Mongolian, part-Manchurian, but mostly Chinese. My Mongolian lineage can be traced back to Tamucin. I am a 28th generation descendant wanting to meet and contact family members around the world or people interested and/or doing research on the Mongolian history and genealogy. I am a 6th generation descendant of Tao Kuang (Min Ning) and second-cousin to China's late Premier Zhou Enlai. By marriage-ties created by Chou P'an Lung, I am a second-cousin to the late Sun Yat-sen and the late Chiang Kai-shek.

Lester D.K. Chow
P.O. Box 4604
Honolulu, Hawaii 96812

http://www.geocities.com/zhouclan/chia_pu.html

Re: à Lester D.K. Chow

Lester D.K. Chow  (View posts) Posted: 29 Dec 2003 5:04PM GMT
Classification: Query
Surnames: Tuo Ba, Tobas, Yuan (Mongolian blood-lineage), and Khan
In addition to research on the Chou Dynasty, Ch'ing Dynasty, and Ming Dynasty, I am interested in the Tuo Ba clan, Mongolian, and Manchurian genealogy. If there are people out there doing this research, I would be happy to hear from you. If you are an actual descendant, please contact me as I of this lineage too and I would like to meet and exchange views and genealogies.

I am doing this for my own purposes and to meet family members.

Lester D.K. Chow
P.O. Box 4604
Honolulu, Hawaii 96812

28th descendant of Tamucin
6th descendant of Min Ning
Great-grandson of Chow P'an Lung

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