I am decended through Charles Phelps, Lawrences brother. There is nothing in particular just that I am doing the family tree and am trying to find any relatives at all. I seem to have come to a full stop with all Lawrences and Sarah Hoopers children bar William and Charles.
kind regards
Karianne

I have 11 children for Lawrence and Sarah, although I must admit I do not have a Charles?
I have:
Joseph 8 Nov 1766, John 13 Mar 1768, Job 21 Jan 1770, Isaac 1 Dec 1771, Josiah 7 Nov 1773, Hester 19 Nov 1775, William 28 Sep 1777, Hannah 7 Mar 1779, Ruth 13 Aug 1780, Aaron 6 Jan 1782 & Lawrence 26 Jan 1783. All christening dates.
Do you have a Date for Charles?
Best Regards
Chris

Hi Tracey,
I have a Charles 1802 on my tree = Charlotte. Charles's parents were William Phelps & Jane Arundel? I had an e-mail from David Brown recently who was refered to me by Peter Phelps. I am something like a fourth cousin once removed to David. Happy to share info if required or just hear from someone else researching Phelps's.
Best Regards
Chris Phelps

Charles was lawrence (c1742) brother born c1750 children of William and Beata. (GTGTGTGTGTGT GPS)
Charles 1750 m Mary Kench (GTGTGTGTGT GPS)
Charles 1811 m Elizabeth Merchant (GTGTGTGT GPS)
Sarah Phelps 1840 m Zenas Goodship (GTGTGT GPS)
Charles Goodship 1865 m Alice Mills (GTGT GPS)
Edith Goodship 1890 m Leonard Clack (GT Gps)
Violet Clack 1921 m Sidney Abel (Grandparents0
Robin Abel 1948 m Sandra Legg
Karianne Abel 1970 m Darren Fisher
I have all of their children and a good few besides. I have 2 lots of Phelps in my tree, most from Bisley but others from Sapperton and Duntisbourne. I have done a lot of research on my whole family as I am keen to see what they all did and where they ended up. I have most of it on Genes reunited at present and a few on here that I have started to put on.
kind regards
Karianne

Hi Karianne,
I have found Charles on my tree now Bapt 23 Jan 1750/51. I don,t have the marriage or any decendants for him. The Charles I have for 1811 from the parish records shows Bapt 7 Apr 1811 son of George m Esther Gardiner 8 Oct 1808. Do you know date & place of Charles 1750 marriage to Mary Kench? Again from parish records I have marriage of Charles Phelps & Betty Merchant 31 Dec 1835 Witnessed by George Barradale (made X as his mark) & Hannah Merchant (who signed her name).
Regards Chris

I trust you will forgive me for taking the part of the devil's advocate.

The parish register transcripts prepared for the Archdeacon's visitation of 1803 (signed by the curate John Green) does not give the name of the mother of the Charles Phelps born in 1802 and naturally, nor does the LDS's extracted data.

What proof have you that that Jane Arundell was Charles's mother? (In J. X C's marriage entry her name really does look like "Janes") There were other William Phelps' marriages in GLS around that time and although submitted entries by LDS members seem to have made a leap of faith about Charles's mother, one must not trust such entries without documentary evidence. Some submitted entries in the IGI may be correct but there's no way of knowing for sure.

At http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/IGIBatch... you will find extracted data of five Charles P's baptisms and you will see that all were extracted from the same film. Extracted data for three Jane Arundells can also be found (1774, 1778 and 1787). I searched my records for 1775 to 1787 but found only 82 year old Jane Phelps' burial, so perhaps there were two Thomas Arundells in Bisley at the same time.

Regards

Sorry, but I don't know when they got married as this info was given me by a fellow researcher on this site. The marriage is correct between Charles Phelps and Betty Merchant , although Betty is short for Elizabeth. These are my Grandparents so many times removed.
kind regards
Karianne

I am sorry but I am unsure what you are trying to tell me. I do not pressume any of my older entries to be 100% correct and I advise people of this when they view my family tree etc.
A lot of my info is from former relatives, the family Bible and research by myself and others on Genes reunited.
I know that the igi is not always right in the dates and therefore I can just assume that the info I have been given is the best I can get without paying a fortune for a historian to rake through the archives.
If you have any more substantial dates and correct parentage then please feel free to let me know so I can correct my details as any help is always grateful
kind regards
Karianne

Wasn't trying to tell you anything - your Chas was not born in 1802 but the Bisley data I have is very comprehensive. A devil's advocate tell's nobody anything but I thought I might help tracytrowbridge with some searches.

My info is from the IGI film 170505 page 687 ref 22723 Charles Phelps christened 12/11/1802 to William Phelps and Jane Arundell Phelps. He has 8 brothers and sisters on there also.
How can you be so sure he doesn't belong to this family?
Any help would be grateful as plenty of others are also researching this family and this info was given in good faith from a member of Genes reunited. I would love to be able to get it right for them as well as myself. It seems a lot of us have this info in our trees as being correct.
I wasn't being snotty before just needed to know where we have all gone wrong with this person.
kind regards
karianne